New “blue whirl” fire tornados spin up a cleaner burn

Harnessing the power of fire has served humanity well for thousands of years, but fire tornadoes are harder to tame. Now a team at the University of Maryland has discovered a new type of fire tornado they’ve dubbed “blue whirls”, which produce a cleaner burn and could be harnessed to reduce carbon emissions and burn away oil spills with fewer airborne pollutants.

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could a design be built into a gas jet?

like a camper burner, gas heater,

would it work for rockets?

Tau.Neutrino said:

could a design be built into a gas jet?

like a camper burner, gas heater,

would it work for rockets?

Like getting a mini tornado happening right in the jet noozle

like a camper burner

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YOU’RE NOT TAKING AWAY OUR BEAUTIFUL YELLOW FLICKERING CAMP FIRES!

Ian said:

like a camper burner

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YOU’RE NOT TAKING AWAY OUR BEAUTIFUL YELLOW FLICKERING CAMP FIRES!

Says Ian as he rings around gas camping manufacturers selling an idea.

Tau.Neutrino said:

New “blue whirl” fire tornados spin up a cleaner burn

Harnessing the power of fire has served humanity well for thousands of years, but fire tornadoes are harder to tame. Now a team at the University of Maryland has discovered a new type of fire tornado they’ve dubbed “blue whirls”, which produce a cleaner burn and could be harnessed to reduce carbon emissions and burn away oil spills with fewer airborne pollutants.

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Are you sure you haven’t started a thread about this before, say three to five years ago? It looks familiar.

mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

New “blue whirl” fire tornados spin up a cleaner burn

Harnessing the power of fire has served humanity well for thousands of years, but fire tornadoes are harder to tame. Now a team at the University of Maryland has discovered a new type of fire tornado they’ve dubbed “blue whirls”, which produce a cleaner burn and could be harnessed to reduce carbon emissions and burn away oil spills with fewer airborne pollutants.

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Are you sure you haven’t started a thread about this before, say three to five years ago? It looks familiar.

if enough was known about creating tornadoes

could one be filled with water using the centrifugal force of the tornado

like a water spout

then move it into the fire

more work needs to be done to see how they move

once its know how they move

and how much water volume one can carry

maybe one could be directed towards a fire carrying water

mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

New “blue whirl” fire tornados spin up a cleaner burn

Harnessing the power of fire has served humanity well for thousands of years, but fire tornadoes are harder to tame. Now a team at the University of Maryland has discovered a new type of fire tornado they’ve dubbed “blue whirls”, which produce a cleaner burn and could be harnessed to reduce carbon emissions and burn away oil spills with fewer airborne pollutants.

more…

Are you sure you haven’t started a thread about this before, say three to five years ago? It looks familiar.

if enough was known about creating tornadoes

could one be filled with water using the centrifugal force of the tornado

like a water spout

then move it into the fire

more work needs to be done to see how they move

once its know how they move

and how much water volume one can carry

maybe one could be directed towards a fire carrying water

how do tornadoes start?
both end points at the same time

do they start from the top then the energy works it way down to a point

or so start at the bottom and then the energy works to the top?

do they start from both end points at once

how do they move?

a large swirling body with a small focused point at the ground, a bit like a twirly top

but instead air is spinning around, so perhaps slightly different air pressures around the bottom of the tornado is work makes it move

or maybe bottom focused point and wide spinning top both make it move?

Tau.Neutrino said:

how do tornadoes start?
both end points at the same time

do they start from the top then the energy works it way down to a point

or so start at the bottom and then the energy works to the top?

do they start from both end points at once

how do they move?

a large swirling body with a small focused point at the ground, a bit like a twirly top

but instead air is spinning around, so perhaps slightly different air pressures around the bottom of the tornado is work makes it move

or maybe bottom focused point and wide spinning top both make it move?

I have seen fire whirlwinds at large bushfires. They start at the ground where they burn whatever fuel is available but as they move slowly away from their ignition point they can last for quite a while. They seem to only rotate counterclockwise.

Tamb said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

how do tornadoes start?
both end points at the same time

do they start from the top then the energy works it way down to a point

or so start at the bottom and then the energy works to the top?

do they start from both end points at once

how do they move?

a large swirling body with a small focused point at the ground, a bit like a twirly top

but instead air is spinning around, so perhaps slightly different air pressures around the bottom of the tornado is work makes it move

or maybe bottom focused point and wide spinning top both make it move?

I have seen fire whirlwinds at large bushfires. They start at the ground where they burn whatever fuel is available but as they move slowly away from their ignition point they can last for quite a while. They seem to only rotate counterclockwise.

If they only spin in one direction that is interesting, why they do it would be good to know.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tamb said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

how do tornadoes start?
both end points at the same time

do they start from the top then the energy works it way down to a point

or so start at the bottom and then the energy works to the top?

do they start from both end points at once

how do they move?

a large swirling body with a small focused point at the ground, a bit like a twirly top

but instead air is spinning around, so perhaps slightly different air pressures around the bottom of the tornado is work makes it move

or maybe bottom focused point and wide spinning top both make it move?

I have seen fire whirlwinds at large bushfires. They start at the ground where they burn whatever fuel is available but as they move slowly away from their ignition point they can last for quite a while. They seem to only rotate counterclockwise.

If they only spin in one direction that is interesting, why they do it would be good to know.

There is some science behind it but I haven’t looked it up.

Tamb said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tamb said:

I have seen fire whirlwinds at large bushfires. They start at the ground where they burn whatever fuel is available but as they move slowly away from their ignition point they can last for quite a while. They seem to only rotate counterclockwise.

If they only spin in one direction that is interesting, why they do it would be good to know.

There is some science behind it but I haven’t looked it up.

Formation

As the mesocyclone lowers below the cloud base, it begins to take in cool, moist air from the downdraft region of the storm. The convergence of warm air in the updraft and cool air causes a rotating wall cloud to form. The rear flank downdraft also focuses the mesocyclone’s base, causing it to draw air from a smaller and smaller area on the ground. As the updraft intensifies, it creates an area of low pressure at the surface. This pulls the focused mesocyclone down, in the form of a visible condensation funnel. As the funnel descends, the RFD also reaches the ground, fanning outward and creating a gust front that can cause severe damage a considerable distance from the tornado. Usually, the funnel cloud begins causing damage on the ground (becoming a tornado) within a few minutes of the RFD reaching the ground.

Tamb said:

Tamb said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

If they only spin in one direction that is interesting, why they do it would be good to know.

There is some science behind it but I haven’t looked it up.

This is a good one too

Tamb said:

Tamb said:

Tamb said:

There is some science behind it but I haven’t looked it up.

This is a good one too

That second one is good, it demonstrates the three sided ground pattern that can start fire tornados.