Date: 20/03/2017 04:45:51
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1040447
Subject: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

Parts of the Great Barrier Reef (GBR) will never fully recover from repeated bleaching of its corals, caused by spikes in the water temperature, scientists say.

Key points:

Repeated bleaching means many corals do not have time to recover Even pristine reefs are not immune Researchers call for tough action on global warming to save Great Barrier Reef

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Date: 20/03/2017 04:49:31
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1040449
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

Would covering the coral reefs with shade cloth help?

The amount of light let through can be varied with the shade cloth.

Would white shade cloth help to reflect the heat?

Some lab testing is needed.

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Date: 20/03/2017 04:52:36
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1040452
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

> Would covering the coral reefs with shade cloth help?

Covering the coral reef with water would help, just a few cm of sea level rise would do the trick.

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Date: 20/03/2017 04:54:37
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1040453
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

Tau.Neutrino said:


Would covering the coral reefs with shade cloth help?

The amount of light let through can be varied with the shade cloth.

Would white shade cloth help to reflect the heat?

Some lab testing is needed.

Lower the temperature using the shade cloth by the same amount the average temperature is going up

someone like that

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Date: 20/03/2017 04:55:45
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1040454
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Would covering the coral reefs with shade cloth help?

The amount of light let through can be varied with the shade cloth.

Would white shade cloth help to reflect the heat?

Some lab testing is needed.

Lower the temperature using the shade cloth by the same amount the average temperature is going up

someone like that

something like that

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Date: 20/03/2017 04:56:07
From: dv
ID: 1040455
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

You realise that coral relies on photosynthesis in the dinoflagellates, right?

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Date: 20/03/2017 05:17:57
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1040464
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

dv said:


You realise that coral relies on photosynthesis in the dinoflagellates, right?

I realised photosynthesis is vital in sustaining a coral reef polyp populations . If the water levels rise rapidly above the current levels over a coral reef the photosynthesis system changes often and means the process doesn’t work well enough and the coral polyps die. If the change is slow then the growth of the coral reef can keep up usually.

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Date: 20/03/2017 05:19:00
From: dv
ID: 1040465
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

monkey skipper said:


dv said:

You realise that coral relies on photosynthesis in the dinoflagellates, right?

I realised photosynthesis is vital in sustaining a coral reef polyp populations . If the water levels rise rapidly above the current levels over a coral reef the photosynthesis system changes often and means the process doesn’t work well enough and the coral polyps die. If the change is slow then the growth of the coral reef can keep up usually.

Yes but my point is that Tau’s shadecloth idea might be a non-starter.

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Date: 20/03/2017 05:19:26
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1040466
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

In the future with water levels rising the coral reefs will most likely die off completely or close to completely is probable

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Date: 20/03/2017 05:24:07
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1040471
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

I think the GBR has still quite a lot of years of funding left in it.

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Date: 20/03/2017 05:26:54
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1040473
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

dv said:


monkey skipper said:

dv said:

You realise that coral relies on photosynthesis in the dinoflagellates, right?

I realised photosynthesis is vital in sustaining a coral reef polyp populations . If the water levels rise rapidly above the current levels over a coral reef the photosynthesis system changes often and means the process doesn’t work well enough and the coral polyps die. If the change is slow then the growth of the coral reef can keep up usually.

Yes but my point is that Tau’s shadecloth idea might be a non-starter.

building platforms to put lab grown coral onto might be a goer that is to say bring the coral to the rising level perhaps.

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Date: 20/03/2017 05:29:48
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1040478
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

how fast does coral grow compared to how fast the sea levels are rising? isn’t warming water more of a threat than sea level rise?

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Date: 20/03/2017 05:32:08
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1040482
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

ChrispenEvan said:


how fast does coral grow compared to how fast the sea levels are rising? isn’t warming water more of a threat than sea level rise?

both. sea levels rising is a serious issue for all coral reefs in the world because of the need to have a set limit from water surface to the coral just to survive daily

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Date: 20/03/2017 05:35:10
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1040485
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

monkey skipper said:


ChrispenEvan said:

how fast does coral grow compared to how fast the sea levels are rising? isn’t warming water more of a threat than sea level rise?

both. sea levels rising is a serious issue for all coral reefs in the world because of the need to have a set limit from water surface to the coral just to survive daily

and it specifically relates to the diminishing capacity for photosynthesis if the water level is too high above this limit for the coral reef.

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Date: 20/03/2017 05:35:47
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1040489
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/managing-the-reef/threats-to-the-reef/climate-change/how-climate-change-can-affect-the-reef/sea-level-rise

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Date: 20/03/2017 05:40:14
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1040491
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

ChrispenEvan said:


http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/managing-the-reef/threats-to-the-reef/climate-change/how-climate-change-can-affect-the-reef/sea-level-rise

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/managing-the-reef/threats-to-the-reef/climate-change/what-does-this-mean-for-habitats/geological-features

so, if it were just sea levels rising the reef could cope, probably. it is all the other effects of CC that have a greater impact.

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Date: 20/03/2017 07:19:20
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1040501
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

You could always put them in a zoo.

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Date: 20/03/2017 07:43:37
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1040511
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

ChrispenEvan said:


ChrispenEvan said:

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/managing-the-reef/threats-to-the-reef/climate-change/how-climate-change-can-affect-the-reef/sea-level-rise

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/managing-the-reef/threats-to-the-reef/climate-change/what-does-this-mean-for-habitats/geological-features

so, if it were just sea levels rising the reef could cope, probably. it is all the other effects of CC that have a greater impact.

The rising sea-level is a long way short of being of any use, when current life expectancy for most corrals can be gauged in only a few decades. You simply need to stop the waters around reefs from heating up.

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Date: 20/03/2017 07:53:15
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1040515
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

PermeateFree said:


ChrispenEvan said:

ChrispenEvan said:

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/managing-the-reef/threats-to-the-reef/climate-change/how-climate-change-can-affect-the-reef/sea-level-rise

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/managing-the-reef/threats-to-the-reef/climate-change/what-does-this-mean-for-habitats/geological-features

so, if it were just sea levels rising the reef could cope, probably. it is all the other effects of CC that have a greater impact.

The rising sea-level is a long way short of being of any use, when current life expectancy for most corrals can be gauged in only a few decades. You simply need to stop the waters around reefs from heating up.

good job i said the coral can probably cope with sea level rises. and that it was other aspects of CC that would be a problem. so we seem to be in agreement.

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Date: 20/03/2017 08:03:51
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1040517
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

dv said:


You realise that coral relies on photosynthesis in the dinoflagellates, right?

yes but the idea is to lower the temperature to counteract the climate change increase

and

the idea is also to let the right amount of light through as well

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Date: 20/03/2017 08:05:54
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1040518
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

Tau.Neutrino said:


dv said:

You realise that coral relies on photosynthesis in the dinoflagellates, right?

yes but the idea is to lower the temperature to counteract the climate change increase

and

the idea is also to let the right amount of light through as well

how much shade cloth do you have and how are you going to support it?

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Date: 20/03/2017 08:08:06
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1040519
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

ChrispenEvan said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

You realise that coral relies on photosynthesis in the dinoflagellates, right?

yes but the idea is to lower the temperature to counteract the climate change increase

and

the idea is also to let the right amount of light through as well

how much shade cloth do you have and how are you going to support it?

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Date: 20/03/2017 08:08:43
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1040520
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

ChrispenEvan said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

You realise that coral relies on photosynthesis in the dinoflagellates, right?

yes but the idea is to lower the temperature to counteract the climate change increase

and

the idea is also to let the right amount of light through as well

how much shade cloth do you have and how are you going to support it?

He might need an engineer or two.

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Date: 20/03/2017 08:12:22
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1040522
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

ChrispenEvan said:


PermeateFree said:

ChrispenEvan said:

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/managing-the-reef/threats-to-the-reef/climate-change/what-does-this-mean-for-habitats/geological-features

so, if it were just sea levels rising the reef could cope, probably. it is all the other effects of CC that have a greater impact.

The rising sea-level is a long way short of being of any use, when current life expectancy for most corrals can be gauged in only a few decades. You simply need to stop the waters around reefs from heating up.

good job i said the coral can probably cope with sea level rises. and that it was other aspects of CC that would be a problem. so we seem to be in agreement.

Wouldn’t disagree with that.

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Date: 20/03/2017 08:23:49
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1040525
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

ChrispenEvan said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

You realise that coral relies on photosynthesis in the dinoflagellates, right?

yes but the idea is to lower the temperature to counteract the climate change increase

and

the idea is also to let the right amount of light through as well

how much shade cloth do you have and how are you going to support it?

Do people want to save the coral reefs?

posting photos of Skyhooks wont help, there’s no sky hooks available

yes, it will need some engineering which will have to address minimizing damage as well as wind and waves

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Date: 20/03/2017 08:28:51
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1040527
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

Tau.Neutrino said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

yes but the idea is to lower the temperature to counteract the climate change increase

and

the idea is also to let the right amount of light through as well

how much shade cloth do you have and how are you going to support it?

Do people want to save the coral reefs?

posting photos of Skyhooks wont help, there’s no sky hooks available

yes, it will need some engineering which will have to address minimizing damage as well as wind and waves

an alternative design would be to pump cooler water over the coral reefs

mapping of warm underwater currents would first have to be completed

then use solar wind and wave power to pump the water

minimizing damage would have have to be taken into account

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Date: 20/03/2017 08:33:17
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1040530
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

ChrispenEvan said:

how much shade cloth do you have and how are you going to support it?

Do people want to save the coral reefs?

posting photos of Skyhooks wont help, there’s no sky hooks available

yes, it will need some engineering which will have to address minimizing damage as well as wind and waves

an alternative design would be to pump cooler water over the coral reefs

mapping of warm underwater currents would first have to be completed

then use solar wind and wave power to pump the water

minimizing damage would have have to be taken into account

Have you any idea as to the scale of the problem?

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Date: 20/03/2017 08:35:03
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1040531
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

Tau.Neutrino said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

yes but the idea is to lower the temperature to counteract the climate change increase

and

the idea is also to let the right amount of light through as well

how much shade cloth do you have and how are you going to support it?

Do people want to save the coral reefs?

posting photos of Skyhooks wont help, there’s no sky hooks available

yes, it will need some engineering which will have to address minimizing damage as well as wind and waves

i dare say some people do want to save them. but maybe they would like practical solutions rather than stupid ones. basically there probably isn’t enough shade cloth to make a difference even before you find a way to support it without doing any damage to the reef you are trying to protect.

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Date: 20/03/2017 08:36:50
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1040532
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

Floating buoys might be able to support the shade clothes, would it need to be anchoring or is there a way around that?

The design would have to be environmentally friendly and be friendly towards birds and fish?

You would want the design to reduce the temperature by the climate change increase

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Date: 20/03/2017 08:38:06
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1040533
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

PermeateFree said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Do people want to save the coral reefs?

posting photos of Skyhooks wont help, there’s no sky hooks available

yes, it will need some engineering which will have to address minimizing damage as well as wind and waves

an alternative design would be to pump cooler water over the coral reefs

mapping of warm underwater currents would first have to be completed

then use solar wind and wave power to pump the water

minimizing damage would have have to be taken into account

Have you any idea as to the scale of the problem?

cleaning up the ocean rubbish patches is on a huge scale as well

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Date: 20/03/2017 08:40:27
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1040536
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

Tau.Neutrino said:


PermeateFree said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

an alternative design would be to pump cooler water over the coral reefs

mapping of warm underwater currents would first have to be completed

then use solar wind and wave power to pump the water

minimizing damage would have have to be taken into account

Have you any idea as to the scale of the problem?

cleaning up the ocean rubbish patches is on a huge scale as well

Think you need to get out there Tau to see the practicality of your suggestion

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Date: 20/03/2017 08:41:31
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1040537
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

We need a University challenge.

To design a coral reef solution.

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Date: 20/03/2017 08:50:03
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1040540
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

PermeateFree said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

PermeateFree said:

Have you any idea as to the scale of the problem?

cleaning up the ocean rubbish patches is on a huge scale as well

Think you need to get out there Tau to see the practicality of your suggestion

I don’t need to go outside

Climate change is global

Global climate change is affecting lots of coral reefs all around the world

there are a lot of coral reefs all around the world

so perhaps saving the savable ones would take precedence over ones which cannot be saved etc

so each coral reef would be analyzed, then put in order of importance.

lots of work

global in scope

but we have some tricks up our sleeve

robots are faster than humans and can work longer hours

drones can do underwater surveying and can do a whole lot of other work

but it will still require a small army of people

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Date: 20/03/2017 08:53:17
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1040542
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

Tau.Neutrino said:


PermeateFree said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

cleaning up the ocean rubbish patches is on a huge scale as well

Think you need to get out there Tau to see the practicality of your suggestion

I don’t need to go outside

Climate change is global

Global climate change is affecting lots of coral reefs all around the world

there are a lot of coral reefs all around the world

so perhaps saving the savable ones would take precedence over ones which cannot be saved etc

so each coral reef would be analyzed, then put in order of importance.

lots of work

global in scope

but we have some tricks up our sleeve

robots are faster than humans and can work longer hours

drones can do underwater surveying and can do a whole lot of other work

but it will still require a small army of people

It is the size of the problem, ie the area of coral reefs, etc. You definitely need to have a look.

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Date: 20/03/2017 08:57:30
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1040543
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

The Great Barrier Reef is about 690 million suburban back yards (allowing 500 m2/SBY).

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Date: 20/03/2017 09:03:17
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1040544
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

Something for you to consider Tau. If you were to boil a billy over an open fire, but you kept half the water covered with shade cloth. Would the water temperature be any less in the shaded area?

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Date: 20/03/2017 09:09:09
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1040546
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

Yes I know the world is big.

and I know climate change is global

yes coral reefs are big

I dont recall saying it was a small problem

but thanks anyway

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Date: 20/03/2017 09:11:51
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1040547
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

Tau.Neutrino said:


Yes I know the world is big.

and I know climate change is global

yes coral reefs are big

I dont recall saying it was a small problem

but thanks anyway

OTOH, suppose you could have zillions of drones fanning the water above the reefs.

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Date: 20/03/2017 09:16:17
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1040548
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

PermeateFree said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Yes I know the world is big.

and I know climate change is global

yes coral reefs are big

I dont recall saying it was a small problem

but thanks anyway

OTOH, suppose you could have zillions of drones fanning the water above the reefs.

Yes lots of drones would help speed things up

and once the project is up and running

some of these drones would be re-tasked for ongoing maintenance

while other drones could be re-tasked for fish research, other duties.

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Date: 20/03/2017 09:18:27
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1040550
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

we could arrest all the pot smokers and growwers, reducing the greenhouse gases they produce and slow down global warming

AGRICULTURE: Pot growers inhale 1% of U.S. electricity, exhale GHGs of 3M cars — study (04/11/2011)

Colin Sullivan, E&E reporter
Indoor marijuana cultivation consumes enough electricity to power 2 million average-sized U.S. homes, which corresponds to about 1 percent of national power consumption, according to a study by a staff scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory.

Researcher Evan Mills’ study notes that cannabis production has largely shifted indoors, especially in California, where medical marijuana growers use high-intensity lights usually reserved for operating rooms that are 500 times more powerful that a standard reading lamp.

The resulting price tag is about $5 billion in annual electricity costs, said Mills, who conducted and published the research independently from the Berkeley lab. The resulting contribution to greenhouse gas emissions equals about 3 million cars on the road, he said.

Narrowing the implications even further reveals some staggering numbers. Mills said a single marijuana cigarette represents 2 pounds of CO2 emissions, an amount equal to running a 100-watt light bulb for 17 hours.

“The added electricity use is equivalent to running about 30 refrigerators,” Mills wrote. “Processed cannabis results in 3,000 times its weight in CO2 emissions. For off-grid production, it requires 70 gallons of diesel fuel to produce one indoor cannabis plant, or 140 gallons with smaller, less-efficient gasoline generators.”

Mills went on to compare an average pot-growing facility to the electric power intensity of a data center. In California, which is the top producing state and one of 17 states to allow medical use of marijuana, cultivation accounts for 3 percent of all electricity use and 8 percent of household use, he said.

Mills added that he completed his research with no external sponsorship, insisting that he does not mean to pass judgment on the merits of cannabis cultivation or use. He also suggested that the minimal amount of information available and the almost complete lack of regulation of the industry mean energy consumption could easily be lowered.

“If improved practices applicable to commercial agricultural greenhouses are any indication, the energy use for indoor cannabis production can be reduced dramatically,” he said. “Cost-effective efficiency improvements of 75 percent are conceivable, which would yield energy savings of about $25,000/year for a generic 10-module growing room.”

Mills, a member of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, drew his data from open literature and interviews with horticultural equipment retailers.

By some estimates, marijuana has long been the largest cash crop in the United States — ahead of corn, soybeans and hay. The industry has been pegged at about $40 billion in value, with California, Tennessee, Kentucky, Hawaii and Washington the top five production states.

Water consumption is also an issue when it comes to environmental impact, with each marijuana plant said to need between 3 and 5 gallons of water per day to grow to fruition.

Click here to read Mills’ study.

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Date: 20/03/2017 09:20:07
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1040552
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

thats if the project got off the ground

lots of naysayers will poopoo the idea etc

dont have much faith in many people now

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Date: 20/03/2017 13:05:37
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1040671
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

PermeateFree said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Do people want to save the coral reefs?

posting photos of Skyhooks wont help, there’s no sky hooks available

yes, it will need some engineering which will have to address minimizing damage as well as wind and waves

an alternative design would be to pump cooler water over the coral reefs

mapping of warm underwater currents would first have to be completed

then use solar wind and wave power to pump the water

minimizing damage would have have to be taken into account

Have you any idea as to the scale of the problem?

note that areas of coral already dead would not apply

and areas dying at present would also not apply

areas that can be saved would be considered

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Date: 20/03/2017 13:31:06
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1040685
Subject: re: Coral bleaching: Extreme heat pushes parts of the Great Barrier Reef beyond recovery

Tau.Neutrino said:


PermeateFree said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

an alternative design would be to pump cooler water over the coral reefs

mapping of warm underwater currents would first have to be completed

then use solar wind and wave power to pump the water

minimizing damage would have have to be taken into account

Have you any idea as to the scale of the problem?

note that areas of coral already dead would not apply

and areas dying at present would also not apply

areas that can be saved would be considered

Covering an area of coral with shade cloth would not be very effective. It is the depth of water that counts with circulating cooler currents bringing lower temperatures, which is necessary for their survival. In shallow water the heat is transferred far and wide by convection, resulting in fatal higher temperatures. Currently the massive tidal movement that brings cool water from deeper parts to reduce temperatures in the shallow coral regions is not sufficient to clear all this warm water, where it largely remains and increases still further in temperature.

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