Date: 22/04/2017 19:12:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1055837
Subject: "Hobbit" did not evolve from Homo Erectus - study

The appropriately named researcher Dr Debbie Argue argues that Homo floresiensis did not evolve from Homo erectus, and is thus much further back in the evolutionary tree from modern humans than was first assumed.

The Guardian takes up the story:

Researchers who studied the bones of Homo floresiensis, a species of tiny human discovered on the Indonesian island of Flores in 2003, say their findings should end a popular theory that it evolved from an ancestor of modern humans. (BCar: actually it did, but an earlier ancestor).

The study, led by the Australian National University researcher Dr Debbie Argue from the school of archaeology and anthropology, found there was no evidence the diminutive 1.1-metre-tall Homo floresiensis evolved from the much larger Homo erectus, the only other early hominid known to have lived in the region.

It was one of several theories about the origins of the “hobbit” species. Since it was discovered, researchers have tried to determine whether Homo floresiensis was a species distinct from humans.

Argue was overseas and unavailable to comment but a member of her research team, prof Colin Groves, said the theory of a link with the Asian Homo erectus, the first of our relatives to have modern human proportions, was “a good scientific hypothesis”.

“But we believe it has now been thoroughly refuted,” he told Guardian Australia.

Groves said the researchers had gone into the study of the species with an open mind. But their findings support another popular theory: that Homo floresiensis was in fact far more primitive than Homo erectus and had characteristics more similar to Homo habilis, which lived between 1.65m and 2.4m years ago, and which is the most ancient representative of the human genus.

Full: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/apr/21/hobbit-species-did-not-evolve-from-ancestor-of-modern-humans-research-finds

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Date: 22/04/2017 19:23:34
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1055842
Subject: re: "Hobbit" did not evolve from Homo Erectus - study

Don’t believe it. The skull and skeleton is much more similar to Homo erectus than Homo habilis. But, saying that, it could have separated from the family tree at a time before Java man (0.7 to 1 million years old). I doubt it though. For comparison, Homo habilis lived 2.1 to 1.5 million years ago

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Date: 22/04/2017 20:26:29
From: dv
ID: 1055844
Subject: re: "Hobbit" did not evolve from Homo Erectus - study

Interesting but I am sure this is not the last word

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Date: 23/04/2017 05:18:40
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1055946
Subject: re: "Hobbit" did not evolve from Homo Erectus - study

Apparently, there is to be some remarkable revelations concerning early Aboriginal migration to Australia within the next few weeks. Also new information about the Dingo. Seems there were a number of peoples wandering around the world in earlier times.

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Date: 23/04/2017 05:31:19
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1055949
Subject: re: "Hobbit" did not evolve from Homo Erectus - study

The only place you don’t find feral people is Africa.

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Date: 23/04/2017 05:33:29
From: dv
ID: 1055950
Subject: re: "Hobbit" did not evolve from Homo Erectus - study

Peak Warming Man said:


The only place you don’t find feral people is Africa.

Sage

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Date: 23/04/2017 05:34:05
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1055952
Subject: re: "Hobbit" did not evolve from Homo Erectus - study

dv said:


Peak Warming Man said:

The only place you don’t find feral people is Africa.

Sage

thymely

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Date: 23/04/2017 05:40:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1055955
Subject: re: "Hobbit" did not evolve from Homo Erectus - study

mollwollfumble said:


Don’t believe it. The skull and skeleton is much more similar to Homo erectus than Homo habilis. But, saying that, it could have separated from the family tree at a time before Java man (0.7 to 1 million years old). I doubt it though. For comparison, Homo habilis lived 2.1 to 1.5 million years ago

Since they’ve studied the fossils in greater detail than anyone before, their claims will carry some weight.

>The researchers also used modern methods of statistical analysis based on latest evidence. Homo erectus and floresiensis were found to have completely different bone structures, particularly in the jaw and pelvis.

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