Date: 22/04/2017 20:27:55
From: dv
ID: 1055846
Subject: Rheas of Germany
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Date: 22/04/2017 20:55:32
From: dv
ID: 1055847
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

In 2000, six rheas (including one male) escape from a farm in Schleswig-Holstein.

The birds survived and indeed thrived in the lightly forested areas around Schaalsee. In 2012 their numbers were estimated to be near 100. A more comprehensive survey by the Nandu Monitoring Working Group in 2016 found more than 200 feral rhea in northern Germany.

The birds are protected by Germany’s conservation laws, to the disgruntlement of some farmers. ( The Germans call the rheas nandu, which is the word for rhea in a south American language.)

In Argentina, rhea live in Chubut region as far south ss the 44th parallel. The area where these feral rheas live in Germany is on the 53rd parallel north, but the minimum winter temperatures in Chubut are similar to those of the Schaalsee area. The major climatic difference is that Chubut is a good deal more arid, receiving only around 250 mm of rainfall per year.

http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-a-wild-nandu-bird-in-a-field-near-schattin-germany-30-october-2016-125152881.html

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Date: 22/04/2017 22:19:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1055855
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

dv said:


In 2000, six rheas (including one male) escape from a farm in Schleswig-Holstein.

The birds survived and indeed thrived in the lightly forested areas around Schaalsee. In 2012 their numbers were estimated to be near 100. A more comprehensive survey by the Nandu Monitoring Working Group in 2016 found more than 200 feral rhea in northern Germany.

The birds are protected by Germany’s conservation laws, to the disgruntlement of some farmers. ( The Germans call the rheas nandu, which is the word for rhea in a south American language.)

In Argentina, rhea live in Chubut region as far south ss the 44th parallel. The area where these feral rheas live in Germany is on the 53rd parallel north, but the minimum winter temperatures in Chubut are similar to those of the Schaalsee area. The major climatic difference is that Chubut is a good deal more arid, receiving only around 250 mm of rainfall per year.

http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-a-wild-nandu-bird-in-a-field-near-schattin-germany-30-october-2016-125152881.html

and they all ran wild.

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Date: 22/04/2017 23:35:31
From: kii
ID: 1055871
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

dv said:

Totally.

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Date: 23/04/2017 01:17:55
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1055882
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

kii said:


dv said:

Totally.

No, once again dv is quite wrong.

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Date: 23/04/2017 01:52:27
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1055897
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

> The area where these feral rheas live …

Try saying “feral rheas” five times quickly without stopping.

On a more serious note, do you have any other examples of surprising feral animal species?

There used to be a big book in one of the university libraries on the topic of “feral birds of the world” giving maps of each distribution. For example, Peregrines are feral on the Indian Ocean islands. I don’t remember seeing rheas, though.

From the web.
Greater Rheas, a species the Germans call Nandu, are very popular in Germany and frequently kept in zoos as well as private enclosures. It is not unusual to drive by a farm building and see a bunch of Greater Rheas on the farm’s fenced-in pasture next to sheep or goats. Therefore, some will occasionally escape and roam the land until they are – inevitably, as they are large and cannot hide very well in the open landscapes they frequent – caught again by their owner. The following map shows all observations of Greater Rheas throughout Germany since 1999. You can see mostly small dots, indicating single individuals over a short period of time.

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Date: 23/04/2017 03:25:18
From: dv
ID: 1055912
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

“On a more serious note, do you have any other examples of surprising feral animal species”

Well… who can say what is surprising? Some might be surprised by feral dear in NZ, or that there are half a million camels in Australia.

There are reports of wallabies in Emance, France, but they have been sporadic and there seems to be doubt that any of these are thriving and breeding in the wild. It might be that all sightings are cases of individual escapees from the zoological reserve. Unlike the rheas, no on in France ever sees more than one wallaby at a time.

There’s no doubt there are wallaby colonies in Cornwall, as there have been photographs taken of small groups. There was a good colony in the Peak District for a while, now wiped out. Red-neck wallabies were deliberately released on Inchconnachan Island in Scotland some 70 years ago, and are still going strong.

There is stack of macaques in Florida, descended from theme park escapees.

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Date: 23/04/2017 03:55:12
From: sibeen
ID: 1055919
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

dv said:


“On a more serious note, do you have any other examples of surprising feral animal species”

Well… who can say what is surprising? Some might be surprised by feral dear in NZ, or that there are half a million camels in Australia.

There are reports of wallabies in Emance, France, but they have been sporadic and there seems to be doubt that any of these are thriving and breeding in the wild. It might be that all sightings are cases of individual escapees from the zoological reserve. Unlike the rheas, no on in France ever sees more than one wallaby at a time.

There’s no doubt there are wallaby colonies in Cornwall, as there have been photographs taken of small groups. There was a good colony in the Peak District for a while, now wiped out. Red-neck wallabies were deliberately released on Inchconnachan Island in Scotland some 70 years ago, and are still going strong.

There is stack of macaques in Florida, descended from theme park escapees.

Those feral dear are quite lovely.

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Date: 23/04/2017 03:57:34
From: Tamb
ID: 1055920
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

sibeen said:


dv said:

“On a more serious note, do you have any other examples of surprising feral animal species”

Well… who can say what is surprising? Some might be surprised by feral dear in NZ, or that there are half a million camels in Australia.

There are reports of wallabies in Emance, France, but they have been sporadic and there seems to be doubt that any of these are thriving and breeding in the wild. It might be that all sightings are cases of individual escapees from the zoological reserve. Unlike the rheas, no on in France ever sees more than one wallaby at a time.

There’s no doubt there are wallaby colonies in Cornwall, as there have been photographs taken of small groups. There was a good colony in the Peak District for a while, now wiped out. Red-neck wallabies were deliberately released on Inchconnachan Island in Scotland some 70 years ago, and are still going strong.

There is stack of macaques in Florida, descended from theme park escapees.

Those feral dear are quite lovely.


Possums in NZ

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Date: 23/04/2017 04:05:38
From: kii
ID: 1055922
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

Deer oh deer oh deer…..

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Date: 23/04/2017 04:15:25
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1055924
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

Tamb said:


sibeen said:

dv said:

“On a more serious note, do you have any other examples of surprising feral animal species”

Well… who can say what is surprising? Some might be surprised by feral dear in NZ, or that there are half a million camels in Australia.

There are reports of wallabies in Emance, France, but they have been sporadic and there seems to be doubt that any of these are thriving and breeding in the wild. It might be that all sightings are cases of individual escapees from the zoological reserve. Unlike the rheas, no on in France ever sees more than one wallaby at a time.

There’s no doubt there are wallaby colonies in Cornwall, as there have been photographs taken of small groups. There was a good colony in the Peak District for a while, now wiped out. Red-neck wallabies were deliberately released on Inchconnachan Island in Scotland some 70 years ago, and are still going strong.

There is stack of macaques in Florida, descended from theme park escapees.

Those feral dear are quite lovely.


Possums in NZ

Gum trees in California.

Australian white-faced herons are considered endemic species in New Zealand, even though they have only been there for a few decades, less time than brushtails.

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Date: 23/04/2017 04:18:51
From: Tamb
ID: 1055925
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

mollwollfumble said:


Tamb said:

sibeen said:

Those feral dear are quite lovely.


Possums in NZ

Gum trees in California.

Australian white-faced herons are considered endemic species in New Zealand, even though they have only been there for a few decades, less time than brushtails.

NZedders shouldn’t complain. They are feral in OZ.

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Date: 23/04/2017 04:23:32
From: dv
ID: 1055926
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

mollwollfumble said:

Australian white-faced herons are considered endemic species in New Zealand, even though they have only been there for a few decades, less time than brushtails.

Good good or ill, zoologists treat anthropgenic introductions as a separate case.

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Date: 23/04/2017 04:26:47
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1055928
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

Australia hosts a feral donkey population.

“Large colonies of feral parrots are present in various parts of the world, with rose-ringed parakeets, monk parakeets and red-masked parakeets being particularly successful outside of their native habitats.”

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Date: 23/04/2017 04:44:03
From: dv
ID: 1055933
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

There have been reports of feral emus in the USA over the last couple of decades, and even a couple of vehicular interactions, but again this appears to be isolated incidents of escapes from emu farms.

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Date: 23/04/2017 04:49:03
From: Speedy
ID: 1055934
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

How about that feral pygmy hippo?

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Date: 23/04/2017 05:57:59
From: dv
ID: 1055975
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

The Florida macaques all have Herpes-B

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Date: 23/04/2017 06:00:18
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1055977
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

dv said:


The Florida macaques all have Herpes-B

Why?

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Date: 23/04/2017 06:00:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1055978
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

The Florida macaques all have Herpes-B

Why?

Dirty habits.

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Date: 23/04/2017 06:02:09
From: dv
ID: 1055979
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

The Florida macaques all have Herpes-B

Why?

I don’t rightly know.

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Date: 23/04/2017 06:02:17
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1055980
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

dv said:


The Florida macaques all have Herpes-B

You wouldn’t want to get bitten by one then.

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Date: 23/04/2017 06:04:12
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1055982
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

Bubblecar said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

The Florida macaques all have Herpes-B

Why?

Dirty habits.

filthy minkeys.

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Date: 23/04/2017 06:07:19
From: Tamb
ID: 1055983
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

JudgeMental said:


Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Why?

Dirty habits.

filthy minkeys.

Dirty habits. Are Florida Macaques a religious Order of Nuns?

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Date: 23/04/2017 06:07:25
From: dv
ID: 1055984
Subject: re: Rheas of Germany

According to WP the last known human fatality from simian Herpes B virus occurred “ in 1997 when researcher Elizabeth Griffin was splashed in the eye at Yerkes National Primate Research Center”.

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