Is Black Lung the new or Asbestos or just not talked about?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalworker%27s_pneumoconiosis

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-15/queensland-authorities-failed-to-spot-black-lung/8357772

Black lung in Queensland existed when disease was thought to be eradicated: expert

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Faces_of_Black_Lung.webm

A video on the history of black lung disease

I meant to say – “Is Black Lung new or the new Asbestosis?”

Neither condition seems new but the best practices may need review and refinement for Black Lung. I had not heard of the this condition until last year. Given the diagnosis of more persons it is something worth knowing about.

monkey skipper said:

I meant to say – “Is Black Lung new or the new Asbestosis?”

Neither condition seems new but the best practices may need review and refinement for Black Lung. I had not heard of the this condition until last year. Given the diagnosis of more persons it is something worth knowing about.

Perhaps someone should inform Donald Trump?

monkey skipper said:

I meant to say – “Is Black Lung new or the new Asbestosis?”

Neither condition seems new but the best practices may need review and refinement for Black Lung. I had not heard of the this condition until last year. Given the diagnosis of more persons it is something worth knowing about.

You’ll need to have worked in a situation where you were exposed to lots of fine coal dust (eg coal mine, railway or coal port facilities – mostly mines). The vast majority of people in Australia have never been exposed to these conditions.

Michael V said:

monkey skipper said:

I meant to say – “Is Black Lung new or the new Asbestosis?”

Neither condition seems new but the best practices may need review and refinement for Black Lung. I had not heard of the this condition until last year. Given the diagnosis of more persons it is something worth knowing about.

You’ll need to have worked in a situation where you were exposed to lots of fine coal dust (eg coal mine, railway or coal port facilities – mostly mines). The vast majority of people in Australia have never been exposed to these conditions.
Two points 1) Black lung is coal related (Coalworker’s pneumoconiosis)

2) A black lung fish

Hmm. Globally 25,000 deaths per year from black lung disease vs 46,000 deaths per year from silicosis. Both declining with time.

Serious.

mollwollfumble said:

Hmm. Globally 25,000 deaths per year from black lung disease vs 46,000 deaths per year from silicosis. Both declining with time.

Serious.

Opal miners get neither. Most of them die from drinking and smoking.

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

Hmm. Globally 25,000 deaths per year from black lung disease vs 46,000 deaths per year from silicosis. Both declining with time.

Serious.

Opal miners get neither. Most of them die from drinking and smoking.

And homicide.

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

Hmm. Globally 25,000 deaths per year from black lung disease vs 46,000 deaths per year from silicosis. Both declining with time.

Serious.

Opal miners get neither. Most of them die from drinking and smoking.

^ from sitting around in pubs trying to talk someone into buying their stuff.

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

Hmm. Globally 25,000 deaths per year from black lung disease vs 46,000 deaths per year from silicosis. Both declining with time.

Serious.

Opal miners get neither. Most of them die from drinking and smoking.

And homicide.

I actually met a bloke who was involved in a murder suicide attempt that went badly awry for him.

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Opal miners get neither. Most of them die from drinking and smoking.

And homicide.

I actually met a bloke who was involved in a murder suicide attempt that went badly awry for him.

What happened?

Just what a girl needs. A nice new hat. :)

New hats of 1915

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-22/black-lung-interim-report-handed-down-in-queensland-parliament/837607

Black lung detection in Queensland ‘deliberately underfunded, under-resourced’

Detection of black lung disease among coal miners Queensland has been deliberately underfunded with calamitous results, according to a scathing report by a parliament committee.

Coal Workers’ Pneumoconiosis (CWP) committee chair Jo-Ann Miller tabled interim findings from her six-month inquiry into the re-emergence of black lung, slamming the Mines Department, Queensland Health, medical professionals, mine operators and Workcover Queensland.

The committee found evidence so far suggested “a massive systemic failure across the entirety of the regulatory and health systems intended to protect coal industry workers.”

“This report exemplifies the human tragedy when public administration in Queensland is corrupted by illusion and false beliefs that black lung was eradicated in this state, and by the deliberate underfunding and under-resourcing over more than 30 years,” Ms Miller told the house.

“Men are dying because of this.

“We expect more men and women to be diagnosed with this preventable disease, resulting in calamitous effects on their families.”

The interim report found 19 confirmed current cases of CWP with a 20th case pending confirmation.

It was particularly concerning, the committee said, that the coal mining industry, the Mines Department and Queensland Health wrongly assumed black lung did not exist after the 1980s.

It found the disease did not “re-emerge” but was “merely re-identified” after more than 30 years of authorities failing to look for it.

“We will right the wrongs and tell the truth no matter where it lands — politically, administratively, medically or industrially.
‘Hindsight a great thing’: Queensland Resources Council defends black lung failures

The Queensland Resources Council said an interim report into the re-detection of black lung disease confirms medical experts were not providing reliable advice to the industry.

Media player: “Space” to play, “M” to mute, “left” and “right” to seek.
Audio: Queensland Resources Council’s Ian Macfarlane says ‘hindsight a good thing’ but parliament report on black lung must not be turned into a political bunfight (ABC News)

QRC chief executive Ian Macfarlane said the union, government and industry were let down by the College of Radiologists who should have diagnosed cases.

“They weren’t picking up cases that local GPs in Rockhampton and Mackay picked up later on,” he said.

“There needs to be a reassessment of the standard of testing particularly in relation to it as world’s best practice to make sure that we get every case of CWP, no matter how early it is in its stages.”

Mr Macfarlane said mining companies were not abrogating their own responsibility — “but hindsight is a great thing”.

The disease, formally known as coal workers’ pneumoconiosis, or CWP, is caused by breathing in coal dust and was thought to have been eradicated until late 2015.

He said all mines were now compliant and working on new technology, but real-time dust monitoring available overseas was not yet registered in Australia.

“The resource companies are happy to do whatever is necessary to eradicate this disease and look after those workers already affected by CWP,” he said.

On the issue of compensation, he said it was being progressed with the Queensland Department of Resources through the Workers Compensation Scheme.

“We all understand we have to step up a bit more on that,” he said.

“There was a belief prior to the detection of the first case that this disease had been eradicated, but that was not the case.

“We now need to work harder to make sure cases that have been missed, people who have the disease are looked after, and those families that have been affected, or where a person unfortunately is deceased, are also taken into consideration.

“We need to make sure what we’re doing going forward resolves the problem and doesn’t turn into a political bunfight.”

The committee will ask Parliament to extend its final report deadline from April to September, and ask that it be allowed to investigate dust exposure for other workers.

It also wants the power to draft legislation to implement its final recommendations, although two Labor members of the committee disagreed with that.
The committee may recommend changes, including in the following areas:

Occupational Exposure Limit (OEL) for respirable coal mine dust Regulation of atmospheric dust monitoring Frequency and extent of atmospheric dust monitoring inspections Workplaces at which atmospheric dust monitoring must be undertaken Use of real time personal dust monitors Coal workers’ chest X-rays to be classified under the International Labour Organisation (ILO) system Health assessments for retired or former coal workers A workers’ compensation scheme, as it applies to long latency respiratory diseases Implementation of a new regulatory environment

Findings from interim report:
Department of Natural Resources and Mines

Did not administer health and safety acts to protect workers with respect to coal mine dust Mines Inspectorate did not monitor mine operators in relation to dust Health Surveillance Unit was overwhelmed with records which were not assessed and were kept in a janitor’s cupboard and shipping containers

Queensland Health

Black lung was not a primary concern

Mine operators

Some quickly acknowledged re-identification of black lung Others avoided or blame shifted Some did not comply with statutory responsibilities, eg regular and gross exceedances of dust limits

Medical professionals

Chest X-rays of poor quality, not properly read

WorkCover

Approved a CWP claim in 2006 but did not alert Mines Department

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

And homicide.

I actually met a bloke who was involved in a murder suicide attempt that went badly awry for him.

What happened?

The murder didn’t work properly but the suicide did.

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

I actually met a bloke who was involved in a murder suicide attempt that went badly awry for him.

What happened?

The murder didn’t work properly but the suicide did.

The other way round would be worse.

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

What happened?

The murder didn’t work properly but the suicide did.

The other way round would be worse.

It was always a lose lose situation.

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

Hmm. Globally 25,000 deaths per year from black lung disease vs 46,000 deaths per year from silicosis. Both declining with time.

Serious.

Opal miners get neither. Most of them die from drinking and smoking.

And homicide.

Going onto to someone else’s claim and falling down a hole is a risk for opal miners.