How is this for a definition?
Consciousness is the sum total of all ones perceptual memories stored as electrochemical energy in over one hundred billion neurons in the brain.
Tau.Neutrino said:
How is this for a definition?Consciousness is the sum total of all ones perceptual memories stored as electrochemical energy in over one hundred billion neurons in the brain.
>>Memory impairment from marijuana use occurs because THC alters how the hippocampus, a brain area responsible for memory formation, processes information. Most of the evidence supporting this assertion comes from animal studies. For example, rats exposed to THC in utero, soon after birth, or during adolescence, show notable problems with specific learning/memory tasks later in life. Moreover, cognitive impairment in adult rats is associated with structural and functional changes in the hippocampus from THC exposure during adolescence.
As people age, they lose neurons in the hippocampus, which decreases their ability to learn new information. Chronic THC exposure may hasten age-related loss of hippocampal neurons. In one study, rats exposed to THC every day for 8 months (approximately 30 percent of their lifespan) showed a level of nerve cell loss at 11 to 12 months of age that equaled that of unexposed animals twice their age.<<
What happens if you don’t have a memory?
>>What happens if you don’t have a memory?
No thoughts and no dreams.
PermeateFree said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
How is this for a definition?Consciousness is the sum total of all ones perceptual memories stored as electrochemical energy in over one hundred billion neurons in the brain.
>>Memory impairment from marijuana use occurs because THC alters how the hippocampus, a brain area responsible for memory formation, processes information. Most of the evidence supporting this assertion comes from animal studies. For example, rats exposed to THC in utero, soon after birth, or during adolescence, show notable problems with specific learning/memory tasks later in life. Moreover, cognitive impairment in adult rats is associated with structural and functional changes in the hippocampus from THC exposure during adolescence.
As people age, they lose neurons in the hippocampus, which decreases their ability to learn new information. Chronic THC exposure may hasten age-related loss of hippocampal neurons. In one study, rats exposed to THC every day for 8 months (approximately 30 percent of their lifespan) showed a level of nerve cell loss at 11 to 12 months of age that equaled that of unexposed animals twice their age.<<
What happens if you don’t have a memory?
One less Barbara Streisand album to torture the world
Describe a case in which the definition of consciousness is important.
dv said:
Describe a case in which the definition of consciousness is important.
Data’s hearing as to whether he is Starfleet’s property or not
Tau.Neutrino said:
How is this for a definition?Consciousness is the sum total of all ones perceptual memories stored as electrochemical energy in over one hundred billion neurons in the brain.
Consciousness is obviously more than memories, it’s one’s sense of ongoing introspection and active interaction with the world.
dv said:
Describe a case in which the definition of consciousness is important.
I’d imagine it’s important in the field of anaesthesia.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Describe a case in which the definition of consciousness is important.
I’d imagine it’s important in the field of anaesthesia.
zing
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
How is this for a definition?Consciousness is the sum total of all ones perceptual memories stored as electrochemical energy in over one hundred billion neurons in the brain.
Consciousness is obviously more than memories, it’s one’s sense of ongoing introspection and active interaction with the world.
Doesn’t ongoing introspection involve remembering things, things that were heard or seen?
Emotions are based on reactions to what is seen or heard, dreams are based on what is seen or heard.
Active interaction with the world involves on going sensory perception, process and reaction.
Tau.Neutrino said:
How is this for a definition?Consciousness is the sum total of all ones perceptual memories stored as electrochemical energy in over one hundred billion neurons in the brain.
it’s things like imagining what would be different, such as the alternate world in which this thread doesn’t exist, and my post here, and the imagining of the alternate world influencing what is written here, like this part of this long sentence, such that the alternate world of the unhappened imaginary influences the world of the happening.
transition said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
How is this for a definition?Consciousness is the sum total of all ones perceptual memories stored as electrochemical energy in over one hundred billion neurons in the brain.
it’s things like imagining what would be different, such as the alternate world in which this thread doesn’t exist, and my post here, and the imagining of the alternate world influencing what is written here, like this part of this long sentence, such that the alternate world of the unhappened imaginary influences the world of the happening.
Imagination is based on memories, how can one imagine without some form of reference?
Tau.Neutrino said:
transition said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
How is this for a definition?Consciousness is the sum total of all ones perceptual memories stored as electrochemical energy in over one hundred billion neurons in the brain.
it’s things like imagining what would be different, such as the alternate world in which this thread doesn’t exist, and my post here, and the imagining of the alternate world influencing what is written here, like this part of this long sentence, such that the alternate world of the unhappened imaginary influences the world of the happening.
Imagination is based on memories, how can one imagine without some form of reference?
i don’t know a person can imagine the solution to a problem as a new concept the logic of the past could help though is that what you mean there?
>Imagination is based on memories, how can one imagine without some form of reference?”
I have a few lazy neurons, and apoptosis is thinning them down as I think and type.
As for structure, and memories and whatever, required for imagination, and consciousness, yeah, of course.
I just gave you an example of the magic performed by consciousness, you know sorta how it generates self-awareness.
It is what it does that way, it doesn’t need a nuts and bolts explanation of its own workings.
Anyway, back to my neural apoptosis. There’s a party happening.
‘u should start with just awareness
no need to bring self into it
oh you mean awake, or wakeful
that I am, at the moment.
SCIENCE said:
‘u should start with just awareness
no need to bring self into it
Why not?
You could just be aware of external stuff, which wouldn’t be the same at all.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
‘u should start with just awareness
no need to bring self into it
Why not?
You could just be aware of external stuff, which wouldn’t be the same at all.
yes, self-awareness is muchly in the differentiated I. Not all of it, but certainly some special qualities of 1.
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
‘u should start with just awareness
no need to bring self into it
Why not?
You could just be aware of external stuff, which wouldn’t be the same at all.
yes, self-awareness is muchly in the differentiated I. Not all of it, but certainly some special qualities of 1.
Self awareness is dependent on all the senses on going in space time.
Tau.Neutrino said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Why not?
You could just be aware of external stuff, which wouldn’t be the same at all.
yes, self-awareness is muchly in the differentiated I. Not all of it, but certainly some special qualities of 1.
Self awareness is dependent on all the senses on going in space time.
dunno, the twilight retreats (senses folding back) are important to whatever it is
transition said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
transition said:yes, self-awareness is muchly in the differentiated I. Not all of it, but certainly some special qualities of 1.
Self awareness is dependent on all the senses on going in space time.
dunno, the twilight retreats (senses folding back) are important to whatever it is
Meditation might help.
Sit down and relax.
Calm down the mind and let all thoughts out.
Its important for this exercise, to stop thinking and focus on awareness only.
Become aware of your body, this is the feeling sense.
Next take a deep breathe, this is the smelling sense.
Look around you, this is the visual sense.
Listen to external sounds, the hearing sense.
All the senses are an integral part of self awareness happening in the brain.
>All the senses are an integral part of self awareness happening in the brain.
try this
the home in my head
Tau.Neutrino said:
transition said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Self awareness is dependent on all the senses on going in space time.
dunno, the twilight retreats (senses folding back) are important to whatever it is
Meditation might help.
Sit down and relax.
Calm down the mind and let all thoughts out.
Its important for this exercise, to stop thinking and focus on awareness only.
Become aware of your body, this is the feeling sense.
Next take a deep breathe, this is the smelling sense.
Look around you, this is the visual sense.
Listen to external sounds, the hearing sense.
All the senses are an integral part of self awareness happening in the brain.
Ommmm
transition said:
>All the senses are an integral part of self awareness happening in the brain.try this
the home in my head
Which can only be created by a lifetime of sensory perception that continually feeds the inner self.
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If the mind was separate from the body, it would float away. It doesn’t, the mind is contained within one hundred billion neurons that are within the brain and moves with the body where ever the self directs it to.
let me be clear about this: i mean no need to bring the distinction between “self” or not into it
SCIENCE said:
let me be clear about this: i mean no need to bring the distinction between “self” or not into it
depends I suppose, if it requires attributes of _I_-ness, that sort of self-aware consciousuness
SCIENCE said:
let me be clear about this: i mean no need to bring the distinction between “self” or not into it
Has the self ever left one’s body?
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
let me be clear about this: i mean no need to bring the distinction between “self” or not into it
depends I suppose, if it requires attributes of _I_-ness, that sort of self-aware consciousuness
monkey skipper said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
transition said:it’s things like imagining what d be different, such as the alternate world in which this thread doesn’t exist, and my post here, and the imagining of the alternate world influencing what is written here, like this part of this long sentence, such that the alternate world of the unhappened imaginary influences the world of the happening.
Imagination is based on memories, how can one imagine without some form of reference?
i don’t know a person can imagine the solution to a problem as a new concept the logic of the past could help though is that what you mean there?
Yes, past experiences with learning logic and ethics, memories of people and places, memories of language and words, memories of equations, memories of pictures, memories of emotions, memories of dreams, memories of doing things, are all references to base new concepts from.
Tau.Neutrino said:
monkey skipper said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Imagination is based on memories, how can one imagine without some form of reference?
i don’t know a person can imagine the solution to a problem as a new concept the logic of the past could help though is that what you mean there?
Yes, past experiences with learning logic and ethics, memories of people and places, memories of language and words, memories of equations, memories of pictures, memories of emotions, memories of dreams, memories of doing things, are all references to base new concepts from.
the initial structures that unfold courtesy DNA (of brain), during gestation and after birth also are from experience (past environments, think philogeny), so in a sense are memory.
Tau.Neutrino said:
transition said:
>All the senses are an integral part of self awareness happening in the brain.try this
the home in my head
Which can only be created by a lifetime of sensory perception that continually feeds the inner self.
I think that is substantially wrong, i’m not sure (equilibrium) internal mental states that make the inner home homely require a continuous feed from external, in fact that maybe unhealthy. There are social forces though that encourage a hunger for input, as if that were true, and in the delivery is a message, a model-of-mind sold encouraging it so.
There’s another sense, of the mind’s workings, a feel of that internal.
Part of homeostasis (maintenance of internal environment), is to limit, control, to manage/regulate input (the feed) from the external environment.
So I think the primary home of an individual is in their head (internal mental states, adjusting the lighting and furniture and all that).
The higher intellectual abilities of humans also serve homeostasis, but extend to group homeostasis.
dv said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
let me be clear about this: i mean no need to bring the distinction between “self” or not into it
depends I suppose, if it requires attributes of _I_-ness, that sort of self-aware consciousuness
elusive, a myth, that the individual examples can be resolved to a brand of computation (sameness)
I better have that second coffee.
Tau.Neutrino said:
How is this for a definition?Consciousness is the sum total of all ones perceptual memories stored as electrochemical energy in over one hundred billion neurons in the brain.
A terrible definition. Let’s use the computer analogy. Your definition is the hard disk. Consciousness is the computer screen. The computer screen is not the same as the hard disk.
mollwollfumble said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
How is this for a definition?Consciousness is the sum total of all ones perceptual memories stored as electrochemical energy in over one hundred billion neurons in the brain.
A terrible definition. Let’s use the computer analogy. Your definition is the hard disk. Consciousness is the computer screen. The computer screen is not the same as the hard disk.
I think we may have been through this before, but if you are going to put up the computer screen as a good analogy of consciousness I think it needs a bit of work to explain in what way they are analogous.
it can give other people lots of pretty pictures
The Rev Dodgson said:
mollwollfumble said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
How is this for a definition?Consciousness is the sum total of all ones perceptual memories stored as electrochemical energy in over one hundred billion neurons in the brain.
A terrible definition. Let’s use the computer analogy. Your definition is the hard disk. Consciousness is the computer screen. The computer screen is not the same as the hard disk.
I think we may have been through this before, but if you are going to put up the computer screen as a good analogy of consciousness I think it needs a bit of work to explain in what way they are analogous.
the technological age doesn’t necessarily confer originality regards such things (explanies), but the monitor or TV (etc) do likely represent the internal projection thing (in ways), the internal big screen of imagination (or just images reproduced from eyes).
the wetware (with many) seems inclined to take something used commonly (computer or whatever), and poverty of analogy doesn’t disincline reaching for whatever.
but, it all started probably with a still puddle, the ancestors leaning over for a drink, impressed so, then made a container to take the water home. Origins of a portable mirror you know. Sky and clouds in there, maybe a tadpole. Ripples too. I can see endless enjoyment.
then there was TV.
mollwollfumble said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
How is this for a definition?Consciousness is the sum total of all ones perceptual memories stored as electrochemical energy in over one hundred billion neurons in the brain.
A terrible definition. Let’s use the computer analogy. Your definition is the hard disk. Consciousness is the computer screen. The computer screen is not the same as the hard disk.
You have missed the point of “the sum total of all ones perceptual memories”
the sum total of all one’s perceptual memories is everything a person has seen, heard, smelled, touched and tasted over their lifetime.
Human perceptions are the interface to and from the external world.