Date: 5/05/2017 05:12:31
From: dv
ID: 1061041
Subject: New Ireland Monitor rediscovered

Varanus douarrha: Researchers Rediscover Long-Lost Species of Monitor Lizard

An international team of researchers has found and re-described a species of monitor lizard, Varanus douarrha, from the island of New Ireland in the Bismarck Archipelago, northeast of Papua New Guinea.

Varanus douarrha was described from a single specimen obtained by French naturalist René Lesson in Port Praslin at the southern end of New Ireland during his work on the La Coquille exploration ship in 1823.

“Considering that no measurements are provided in Lesson’s 1830 description it appears questionable whether the type specimen ever reached Europe for closer inspection,” the researchers said.

“Three boxes of La Coquille’s South American and Pacific collections were sent toward France with the ship’s surgeon Prosper Garnot, who had fallen ill with dysentery. First, as far as Mauritius on the convict ship Castle Forbes, and from there onward with the King George IV, which shipwrecked at the Cape of Good Hope 15 July 1824, and all the collections were lost.”

Since then, it has been believed that monitor lizards on New Ireland belong to the mangrove monitor (Varanus indicus).

“However, new morphological and genetic studies confirmed that the monitor lizards of New Ireland have lived in isolation for a long time and developed into a separate species,” said team member Valter Weijola, a researcher in the Department of Biology at the University of Turku, Finland, and lead author of a report on Varanus douarrha in the Australian Journal of Zoology.

So that’s nice.

It’s markings remind me of The Game of Life

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Date: 5/05/2017 05:21:12
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1061055
Subject: re: New Ireland Monitor rediscovered

An international team of researchers has found and re-described a species of monitor lizard, Varanus douarrha, from the island of New Ireland in the Bismarck Archipelago, northeast of Papua New Guinea.

Where’s PF when you need him? That’s description is terrible.

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Date: 5/05/2017 05:22:05
From: dv
ID: 1061057
Subject: re: New Ireland Monitor rediscovered

Witty Rejoinder said:


An international team of researchers has found and re-described a species of monitor lizard, Varanus douarrha, from the island of New Ireland in the Bismarck Archipelago, northeast of Papua New Guinea.

Where’s PF when you need him? That’s description is terrible.

You’re quite right.

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Date: 5/05/2017 06:26:33
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1061144
Subject: re: New Ireland Monitor rediscovered

Witty Rejoinder said:


An international team of researchers has found and re-described a species of monitor lizard, Varanus douarrha, from the island of New Ireland in the Bismarck Archipelago, northeast of Papua New Guinea.

Where’s PF when you need him? That’s description is terrible.

What seems to be the problem?

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Date: 5/05/2017 06:44:44
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1061154
Subject: re: New Ireland Monitor rediscovered

PermeateFree said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

An international team of researchers has found and re-described a species of monitor lizard, Varanus douarrha, from the island of New Ireland in the Bismarck Archipelago, northeast of Papua New Guinea.

Where’s PF when you need him? That’s description is terrible.

What seems to be the problem?


The island New Ireland is of itself part of PNG and is not merely north-east of it. It would be better said that New Ireland – or the Bismark Archipelago in general- is northwest of New Guinea, not PNG.

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Date: 5/05/2017 06:44:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1061155
Subject: re: New Ireland Monitor rediscovered

PermeateFree said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

An international team of researchers has found and re-described a species of monitor lizard, Varanus douarrha, from the island of New Ireland in the Bismarck Archipelago, northeast of Papua New Guinea.

Where’s PF when you need him? That’s description is terrible.

What seems to be the problem?

The description in the document described, is terrible. Please translate.

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Date: 5/05/2017 06:50:27
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1061157
Subject: re: New Ireland Monitor rediscovered

Witty Rejoinder said:


PermeateFree said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

An international team of researchers has found and re-described a species of monitor lizard, Varanus douarrha, from the island of New Ireland in the Bismarck Archipelago, northeast of Papua New Guinea.

Where’s PF when you need him? That’s description is terrible.

What seems to be the problem?


The island New Ireland is of itself part of PNG and is not merely north-east of it. It would be better said that New Ireland – or the Bismark Archipelago in general- is northwest of New Guinea, not PNG.

No, New Ireland is where the lizard is found and the other locations indicate the islands wider geographical location. It has all the information to assist those interested

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Date: 5/05/2017 06:52:38
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1061158
Subject: re: New Ireland Monitor rediscovered

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

An international team of researchers has found and re-described a species of monitor lizard, Varanus douarrha, from the island of New Ireland in the Bismarck Archipelago, northeast of Papua New Guinea.

Where’s PF when you need him? That’s description is terrible.

What seems to be the problem?

The description in the document described, is terrible. Please translate.

What description is that?

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Date: 5/05/2017 07:03:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1061162
Subject: re: New Ireland Monitor rediscovered

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

What seems to be the problem?

The description in the document described, is terrible. Please translate.

What description is that?

The one you have already translated.

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Date: 5/05/2017 07:04:55
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1061165
Subject: re: New Ireland Monitor rediscovered

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

The description in the document described, is terrible. Please translate.

What description is that?

The one you have already translated.

Well I hope I have enlightened you, Witty and dv.

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Date: 5/05/2017 07:06:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1061168
Subject: re: New Ireland Monitor rediscovered

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

What description is that?

The one you have already translated.

Well I hope I have enlightened you, Witty and dv.

Of course. You always do.

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Date: 5/05/2017 08:51:52
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1061306
Subject: re: New Ireland Monitor rediscovered

> it has been believed that monitor lizards on New Ireland belong to the mangrove monitor (Varanus indicus)

So not rediscovered, but changed from a subspecies to a species.

> It’s markings remind me of The Game of Life

Yes, we had a thread about this recently. The chemical gradients that control reptile scale colours can reproduce a cellular automaton.

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Date: 5/05/2017 08:54:18
From: dv
ID: 1061316
Subject: re: New Ireland Monitor rediscovered

mollwollfumble said:


> it has been believed that monitor lizards on New Ireland belong to the mangrove monitor (Varanus indicus)

So not rediscovered, but changed from a subspecies to a species.

I don’t think that’s quite the case. Specimens resembling the type species of V.d. (black with yellow speckles that are concentrated more densely on its underbelly) had not been found until recently.

Mostly because nobody checked …

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