Date: 5/05/2017 21:30:22
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1061667
Subject: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/04/170427091723.htm

Date: April 27, 2017
Source: University of California – San Diego
Summary: Explorers planning to settle on Mars might be able to turn the planet’s soil into bricks without needing to use an oven or additional ingredients. Instead, they would need to apply pressure to compact the soil—the equivalent of a blow from a hammer.

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Date: 5/05/2017 21:33:01
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1061668
Subject: re: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

Explorers planning to settle on Mars might be able to turn the planet’s red soil into bricks without needing to use an oven or additional ingredients. Instead, they would just need to apply pressure to compact the soil — the equivalent of a blow from a hammer.

These are the findings of a study published in Scientific Reports on April 27, 2017. The study was authored by a team of engineers at the University of California San Diego and funded by NASA. The research is all the more important since Congress passed a bill, signed by President Donald Trump in March 2017, directing NASA to send a manned mission on Mars in 2033.

“The people who will go to Mars will be incredibly brave. They will be pioneers. And I would be honored to be their brick maker,” said Yu Qiao, a professor of structural engineering at UC San Diego and the study’s lead author.

Proposals to use Martian soil to build habitats for manned missions on the planet are not new. But this is the first that shows astronauts would need minimal resources to do so. Previous plans included nuclear-powered brick kilns or using complex chemistry to turn organic compounds found on Mars into binding polymers.

In fact, the UC San Diego engineers were initially trying to cut down on the amount of polymers required to shape Martian soil into bricks, and accidently discovered that none was needed. To make bricks out of Mars soil simulant, without additives and without heating or baking the material, two steps were key. One was to enclose the simulant in a flexible container, in this case a rubber tube. The other was to compact the simulant at a high enough pressure. The amount of pressure needed for a small sample is roughly the equivalent of someone dropping 10-lb hammer from a height of one meter, Qiao said.

The process produces small round soil pallets that are about an inch tall and can then be cut into brick shapes. The engineers believe that the iron oxide, which gives Martian soil its signature reddish hue, acts as a binding agent. They investigated the simulant’s structure with various scanning tools and found that the tiny iron particles coat the simulant’s bigger rocky basalt particles. The iron particles have clean, flat facets that easily bind to one another under pressure.

Researchers also investigated the bricks’ strengths and found that even without rebar, they are stronger than steel-reinforced concrete.

Researchers said their method may be compatible with additive manufacturing. To build up a structure, astronauts could lay down a layer of soil, compact it, then lay down an additional layer and compact that, and so on.

The logical next step for the research would be to increase the size of the bricks.

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Date: 5/05/2017 23:30:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1061679
Subject: re: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

The hippies have been using brick presses since the year dot.

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Date: 5/05/2017 23:35:52
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1061683
Subject: re: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

roughbarked said:


The hippies have been using brick presses since the year dot.

not on mars, not in a virtually airless environment, not without adding “something” to the soil to assist binding, though.

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Date: 5/05/2017 23:38:02
From: Phil_C
ID: 1061684
Subject: re: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

ChrispenEvan said:


roughbarked said:

The hippies have been using brick presses since the year dot.

not on mars, not in a virtually airless environment, not without adding “something” to the soil to assist binding, though.

The hippies on Mars are too stoned to do anything pressing.

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Date: 5/05/2017 23:38:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1061685
Subject: re: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

ChrispenEvan said:


roughbarked said:

The hippies have been using brick presses since the year dot.

not on mars, not in a virtually airless environment, not without adding “something” to the soil to assist binding, though.

I will agree that it was not on mars.

There is however ample soil of high iron content on earth that needs no additives.

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Date: 5/05/2017 23:41:18
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1061687
Subject: re: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

roughbarked said:


ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

The hippies have been using brick presses since the year dot.

not on mars, not in a virtually airless environment, not without adding “something” to the soil to assist binding, though.

I will agree that it was not on mars.

There is however ample soil of high iron content on earth that needs no additives.

most brickmaking, or rammed earth, requires a certain moisture content. whether native or an addition. Don’t know of any earthbound brickmakers who use dry native soil.

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Date: 5/05/2017 23:57:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1061690
Subject: re: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

ChrispenEvan said:


roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

not on mars, not in a virtually airless environment, not without adding “something” to the soil to assist binding, though.

I will agree that it was not on mars.

There is however ample soil of high iron content on earth that needs no additives.

most brickmaking, or rammed earth, requires a certain moisture content. whether native or an addition. Don’t know of any earthbound brickmakers who use dry native soil.

Well I’ve seen it done at the numerous festivals that were of the down to earth nature.

The moisture may have been in the soil naturally but I saw nobody testing the exact requirements. You can also make them with additives yes.

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Date: 6/05/2017 00:03:34
From: dv
ID: 1061691
Subject: re: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

In his 1989 paper, Bruce Mackenzie recommended sun-dried bricks as the preferred building material for Mars Habitats.

B. Mackenzie, “Building Mars Habitats Using Local Materials,” AAS 87-216, in C Stoker, ed., The Case for Mars III, Volume 74, Science and Technology Series of the American Astronautical Society, Univelt, San Diego, CA, 1989.

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Date: 6/05/2017 00:04:53
From: dv
ID: 1061692
Subject: re: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

Phil_C said:


ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

The hippies have been using brick presses since the year dot.

not on mars, not in a virtually airless environment, not without adding “something” to the soil to assist binding, though.

The hippies on Mars are too stoned to do anything pressing.

Sure, it’s easy to get stuck in the Valles Marijuanas

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Date: 6/05/2017 00:24:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1061703
Subject: re: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

dv said:


Phil_C said:

ChrispenEvan said:

not on mars, not in a virtually airless environment, not without adding “something” to the soil to assist binding, though.

The hippies on Mars are too stoned to do anything pressing.

Sure, it’s easy to get stuck in the Valles Marijuanas

On the sixth day, God created the seeded herb and on the seventh he seems to have gotten stoned and not bothered to contact anyone since.

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Date: 6/05/2017 00:29:28
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1061711
Subject: re: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

roughbarked said:


dv said:

Phil_C said:

The hippies on Mars are too stoned to do anything pressing.

Sure, it’s easy to get stuck in the Valles Marijuanas

On the sixth day, God created the seeded herb and on the seventh he seems to have gotten stoned and not bothered to contact anyone since.

Let’s check:

The sixth was burning with icy, green flames that glowed white
And of her beauty she made Venus
And she made a day of love
Whereby all beings are united

The seventh was rich purple of the mollusks
And she colored Chronos
And she made a day of idleness and repose
Whereon all beings cease from struggle

Nope, nothing about ‘erbs

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Date: 6/05/2017 00:30:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1061713
Subject: re: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

Sure, it’s easy to get stuck in the Valles Marijuanas

On the sixth day, God created the seeded herb and on the seventh he seems to have gotten stoned and not bothered to contact anyone since.

Let’s check:

The sixth was burning with icy, green flames that glowed white
And of her beauty she made Venus
And she made a day of love
Whereby all beings are united

The seventh was rich purple of the mollusks
And she colored Chronos
And she made a day of idleness and repose
Whereon all beings cease from struggle

Nope, nothing about ‘erbs

:)

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Date: 6/05/2017 00:32:32
From: dv
ID: 1061718
Subject: re: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

How can green flames glow white?

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Date: 6/05/2017 00:33:30
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1061719
Subject: re: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

dv said:


How can green flames glow white?

Something to do with herbs, probably.

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Date: 6/05/2017 00:33:45
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1061720
Subject: re: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

dv said:


How can green flames glow white?

drugs.

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Date: 6/05/2017 01:04:32
From: Ian
ID: 1061732
Subject: re: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

ChrispenEvan said:


dv said:

How can green flames glow white?

drugs.

Incredible..

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Date: 6/05/2017 02:50:41
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1061752
Subject: re: Engineers investigate a simple, no-bake recipe to make bricks from Martian soil

Ian said:


ChrispenEvan said:

dv said:

How can green flames glow white?

drugs.

Incredible..

Good to see people are following the string of the argument.

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