Date: 9/05/2017 01:28:03
From: dv
ID: 1062859
Subject: Irreplaceable plant specimens destroyed in quarantine blunder

review of Australia’s quarantine procedures has been undertaken after historic and valuable plant specimens from France were destroyed by biosecurity officers.

In March, a collection of rare flowering plants sent by the Museum of Natural History in Paris to Queensland’s herbarium in Brisbane was incinerated.

Michelle Waycott, who chairs the Council of Heads of Australasian Herbaria, said the pressed plant specimens dated back to the mid-1800s.

“They were the first type specimens collected of a species,” she said.

“That would be the equivalent of material collected in the Flinders expedition, going and then destroying those.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-08/irreplaceable-plant-specimens-destroyed-by-biosecurity-officers/8504944

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Date: 9/05/2017 05:03:06
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1062991
Subject: re: Irreplaceable plant specimens destroyed in quarantine blunder

I want my Dope Seeds back too.

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Date: 9/05/2017 05:08:48
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1062993
Subject: re: Irreplaceable plant specimens destroyed in quarantine blunder

dv said:

review of Australia’s quarantine procedures has been undertaken after historic and valuable plant specimens from France were destroyed by biosecurity officers.

In March, a collection of rare flowering plants sent by the Museum of Natural History in Paris to Queensland’s herbarium in Brisbane was incinerated.

Michelle Waycott, who chairs the Council of Heads of Australasian Herbaria, said the pressed plant specimens dated back to the mid-1800s.

“They were the first type specimens collected of a species,” she said.

“That would be the equivalent of material collected in the Flinders expedition, going and then destroying those.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-08/irreplaceable-plant-specimens-destroyed-by-biosecurity-officers/8504944

I have long thought that Australian Customs is ratshit, blocking and destroying importations of harmless plant and animal products.

The whole philosophy of customs is wrong. “If I don’t understand it, destroy it because it could be dangerous”. The correct attitude would be “Innocent until proved guilty”.

This is just the latest and worst in a very long series of outrages by the Australian Customs service.

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Date: 9/05/2017 05:11:15
From: Tamb
ID: 1062995
Subject: re: Irreplaceable plant specimens destroyed in quarantine blunder

mollwollfumble said:


dv said:
review of Australia’s quarantine procedures has been undertaken after historic and valuable plant specimens from France were destroyed by biosecurity officers.

In March, a collection of rare flowering plants sent by the Museum of Natural History in Paris to Queensland’s herbarium in Brisbane was incinerated.

Michelle Waycott, who chairs the Council of Heads of Australasian Herbaria, said the pressed plant specimens dated back to the mid-1800s.

“They were the first type specimens collected of a species,” she said.

“That would be the equivalent of material collected in the Flinders expedition, going and then destroying those.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-08/irreplaceable-plant-specimens-destroyed-by-biosecurity-officers/8504944

I have long thought that Australian Customs is ratshit, blocking and destroying importations of harmless plant and animal products.

The whole philosophy of customs is wrong. “If I don’t understand it, destroy it because it could be dangerous”. The correct attitude would be “Innocent until proved guilty”.

This is just the latest and worst in a very long series of outrages by the Australian Customs service.


Not just Customs. Parks & Wildlife are the same. Or as they are known The Dept of wildfires & euthanasia.

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Date: 9/05/2017 05:29:18
From: dv
ID: 1062999
Subject: re: Irreplaceable plant specimens destroyed in quarantine blunder

I accept that biosecurity is a serious business. There will be cases where specimens cannot be imported to Australia. Under normal circumstances the result would be for the item to be returned to sender at either the sender or the recipient’s expense.

There were documentation errors by both the recipient and sender in this case which led to delays but it appears that someone done fucked up as the specimens were destroyed while the matter was being investigated.

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Date: 9/05/2017 05:30:33
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1063002
Subject: re: Irreplaceable plant specimens destroyed in quarantine blunder

You would think specimens sent from one herbarium to another would warrant special consideration, not just a non-thinking bureaucratic reaction. Herbarium specimens do NOT harbor soil and/or pests. Herbariums have stringent controls on their collections and each and everyone is deep frozen to ensure there are no living organisms that could harm not only that specimen, but all the herbarium collections. Makes you sick at the stupidity of some people in responsible positions.

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Date: 9/05/2017 05:33:59
From: dv
ID: 1063005
Subject: re: Irreplaceable plant specimens destroyed in quarantine blunder

PermeateFree said:


You would think specimens sent from one herbarium to another would warrant special consideration, not just a non-thinking bureaucratic reaction. Herbarium specimens do NOT harbor soil and/or pests. Herbariums have stringent controls on their collections and each and everyone is deep frozen to ensure there are no living organisms that could harm not only that specimen, but all the herbarium collections. Makes you sick at the stupidity of some people in responsible positions.

Quite so.

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Date: 9/05/2017 05:36:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1063006
Subject: re: Irreplaceable plant specimens destroyed in quarantine blunder

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

You would think specimens sent from one herbarium to another would warrant special consideration, not just a non-thinking bureaucratic reaction. Herbarium specimens do NOT harbor soil and/or pests. Herbariums have stringent controls on their collections and each and everyone is deep frozen to ensure there are no living organisms that could harm not only that specimen, but all the herbarium collections. Makes you sick at the stupidity of some people in responsible positions.

Quite so.

“some” though, understated

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Date: 9/05/2017 06:29:12
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1063029
Subject: re: Irreplaceable plant specimens destroyed in quarantine blunder

Around 40 odd years ago, something similar happened within Australia, when ‘type’ specimens were sent to the Perth Herbarium for research into a particular genus; they were returned by road carrier that was involved in an accident on the Nullarbor and the specimens were incinerated. The herbarium who owned these plants were very upset, as they thought they should have been sent back via air-courier and even today it still raises hackles, so you might imagine a far worse situation with the French and NZ Herbariums, which with the former also had considerable historical importance. I would imagine our research botanists must now get additional funding to personally visit overseas herbaria to study their collections, which is far less effective and considerably more inconvenient.

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