Date: 19/05/2017 07:13:15
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1067420
Subject: Values of the rare and exotic
For those interested in the increasing values of rare and exotic treasures should find the following of interest. It would seem cars and wine hold their value the most and provide the highest return on investment. Sorry, but I could not find anything about pianos apart from the art section that would cover a wide range of items, with probably paintings being the most volatile.
From the link:
http://newatlas.com/earrings-worlds-most-expensive-apollo-artemis-sothebys/49559/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=c6d12410cf-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_65b67362bd-c6d12410cf-92533145#gallery
Date: 19/05/2017 07:20:14
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1067424
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
I wish to dispute those figures for cars. Most cars lose a lot of value, just taking them out of the showroom can knock 10 to 20% off the price.
So, which cars, coins etc. are they talking about?
Date: 19/05/2017 07:22:24
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1067428
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
mollwollfumble said:
I wish to dispute those figures for cars. Most cars lose a lot of value, just taking them out of the showroom can knock 10 to 20% off the price.
So, which cars, coins etc. are they talking about?
Cars purchased as investments presumably.
Date: 19/05/2017 07:28:56
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1067431
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
Hmm, antique Porsche and Ferrari. That’s what they’re talking about.
Gold is the most volatile? Have they got that back to front?
Date: 19/05/2017 07:31:04
From: Cymek
ID: 1067432
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
mollwollfumble said:
Hmm, antique Porsche and Ferrari. That’s what they’re talking about.
Gold is the most volatile? Have they got that back to front?
I wonder how much gold you’d need to dump on the market to massively devalue it
Date: 19/05/2017 07:34:20
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1067435
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
mollwollfumble said:
Hmm, antique Porsche and Ferrari. That’s what they’re talking about.
they would have some models in that category but it is rarity that earns the money.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_cars_sold_at_auction#Common_contributing_factors
Date: 19/05/2017 07:47:18
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1067441
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
Some high value items from Halcion website.
Hafnium 178 a trillion dollars per kg
Gem grade red diamond 5 billion dollars per kg
Gauguin 900 million dollars per kg
Singapore 10,000 dollar notes, 7.3 million dollars per kg
Expensive Lipstick 500 thousand dollars per kg
Expensive Whiskey 325 thousand dollars per kg
Gold 38 thousand dollars per kg
Expensive perfume 15 thousand dollars per kg
Rolls Royce phantom coupe 186 dollars per kg
Date: 19/05/2017 07:49:32
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1067443
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
mollwollfumble said:
I wish to dispute those figures for cars. Most cars lose a lot of value, just taking them out of the showroom can knock 10 to 20% off the price.
So, which cars, coins etc. are they talking about?
My guess is they are looking at the price of old objects now, and comparing with the same object 1, 5 and 10 years ago.
So whereas antique furniture was highly valued 10 years ago, and has actually gone down, antique cars have for some reason greatly increased in price.
It’s no guide at all for the next 10 years of course. If anything you could probably take it as an inverse guide.
Date: 19/05/2017 07:49:42
From: OCDC
ID: 1067444
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
mollwollfumble said:
Rolls Royce phantom coupe 186 dollars per kg
Cheaper than saffron.
Date: 19/05/2017 07:50:48
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1067446
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
OCDC said:
mollwollfumble said:Rolls Royce phantom coupe 186 dollars per kg
Cheaper than saffron.
i’m just mad about saffron…
Date: 19/05/2017 07:54:40
From: party_pants
ID: 1067447
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
mollwollfumble said:
Some high value items from Halcion website.
Hafnium 178 a trillion dollars per kg
Sounds awesome. But I guess if I had a kilo of it and sold it all at once the market price would collapse.
Date: 19/05/2017 07:56:26
From: sibeen
ID: 1067448
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
Bogsnorkler said:
OCDC said:
mollwollfumble said:Rolls Royce phantom coupe 186 dollars per kg
Cheaper than saffron.
i’m just mad about saffron…
She’s not reciprocating.
Date: 19/05/2017 07:57:42
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1067449
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
party_pants said:
mollwollfumble said:
Some high value items from Halcion website.
Hafnium 178 a trillion dollars per kg
Sounds awesome. But I guess if I had a kilo of it and sold it all at once the market price would collapse.
Has any ever been sold? What do you use it for?
Date: 19/05/2017 07:58:52
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1067450
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
party_pants said:
mollwollfumble said:
Some high value items from Halcion website.
Hafnium 178 a trillion dollars per kg
Sounds awesome. But I guess if I had a kilo of it and sold it all at once the market price would collapse.
Only if the market didn’t know you were hoarding it.
Date: 19/05/2017 07:59:10
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1067451
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
OCDC said:
Cheaper than saffron.
i’m just mad about saffron…
She’s not reciprocating.
she’s human not a bloody saw!!!
Date: 19/05/2017 08:01:26
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1067454
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
The world is divided into hafniums and hafnium-nots.
Date: 19/05/2017 08:01:48
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1067455
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:
mollwollfumble said:
Some high value items from Halcion website.
Hafnium 178 a trillion dollars per kg
Sounds awesome. But I guess if I had a kilo of it and sold it all at once the market price would collapse.
Only if the market didn’t know you were hoarding it.
Actually you’re right. If you sold it all at once the price would drop markedly.
Date: 19/05/2017 08:03:28
From: party_pants
ID: 1067456
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
mollwollfumble said:
Some high value items from Halcion website.
Hafnium 178 a trillion dollars per kg
Sounds awesome. But I guess if I had a kilo of it and sold it all at once the market price would collapse.
Has any ever been sold? What do you use it for?
My learning for today, induced gamma emissions or something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafnium_controversy
Date: 19/05/2017 08:03:45
From: Cymek
ID: 1067457
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
Wikipedia states
Hafnium reserves have been infamously estimated to last under 10 years by one source if the world population increases and demand grows. In reality, since hafnium occurs with zirconium, hafnium can always be a byproduct of zirconium extraction to the extent that the low demand requires.
Date: 19/05/2017 08:08:11
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1067461
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
>>Hafnium 178 a trillion dollars per kg
What if you cut it with saffron?
Date: 19/05/2017 08:09:35
From: party_pants
ID: 1067463
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
Sounds awesome. But I guess if I had a kilo of it and sold it all at once the market price would collapse.
Has any ever been sold? What do you use it for?
My learning for today, induced gamma emissions or something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafnium_controversy
Mind you, I wouldn’t care if my customers want to spread it on their toast.
Date: 19/05/2017 08:32:09
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1067478
Subject: re: Values of the rare and exotic
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
Sounds awesome. But I guess if I had a kilo of it and sold it all at once the market price would collapse.
Has any ever been sold? What do you use it for?
My learning for today, induced gamma emissions or something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafnium_controversy
From that link.
One gram of pure 178m2Hf contains approximately 1330 megajoules of energy, the equivalent in about 300 kilograms of TNT. So far the nuclear isomer exists only at low concentrations (<0.1%), within multi-isotopic hafnium. One gram of this material has about 1.33 megajoules of energy, about ten times better than compressed hydrogen.
Interesting stuff.