Date: 5/06/2017 04:02:26
From: The_observer
ID: 1074937
Subject: GetUp, just a far left political party

THEIR website says they’re ­independent and driven by ­values, not politics. Yet in just over a week, the activist group GetUp! has raised almost $200,000 in a bid to oust ­Immigration Minister Peter Dutton from his marginal Brisbane seat of Dickson.

Short on well-performing ministers, this is a worry for the Turnbull government.

It’s also a worry for the rest of us who want to see a fair and transparent political system because GetUp! is not what it says it is.

What began 12 years ago as a campaigning outfit to fight for leftist causes — environmental justice, human rights, economic fairness (their words not mine) — is now a political player that exists to fight conservatives.

The usual rules that police political parties — disclosure on all donations, lodged ­returns and transparency — don’t apply to GetUp! because of the manufactured fiction they’re above politics.

“GetUp! is, and always has been, an independent organisation”, or so says their website, but let’s look at the facts.

At last year’s federal election, GetUp! played its politics as hard as any mainstream party and boasted it had “pursued a strategy of targeting the right-wing of the Coalition who block action on global warming, renewable energy, and funding for schools and hospitals”.

Four of the GetUp!-targeted MPs lost their seats — Jamie Briggs, Russell Matheson, ­Andrew Nikolic and Louise Markus — with swings ranging from seven to 18 per cent.

A particular target then, as now, was the Immigration Minister, who just held on, but with a 6 per cent swing against him.

GetUp!’s national director said in a statement at the time that “GetUp! members mobilised to target Peter Dutton, seeing a huge swing against the Immigration Minister who ­reverted to dog-whistling and attacking immigrants to get himself elected”.

Those of us who feel safe with Peter Dutton in charge of our borders — deporting outlaw bikies, illicit drug-dealers and frauds who lie on their visa applications — should rail against GetUp!’s tactics.

They’re underhand, they’re not in the best interests of democracy and, as is patently obvious after recent events, they’re little more than a ­Leftist front.

Seriously, where does GetUp! get off pretending it’s independent?

As the whole political spectrum moves to the left, it’s time to shine a great big spotlight on this very professional and very well-funded US-style activist organisation.

Since it was set up to fight against the Howard government, GetUp! has gone from strength to strength as an online mobiliser of young people against anything that might be described as right-of-centre.

It’s making Labor stronger and the Coalition weaker.

Right now the Labor Party has the unions as its organisational wing, the Greens as its reliable parliamentary ally, and GetUp! as its community arm enlisting people to campaign against ­positions and candidates that all happen to be Liberal ones.

In the Tasmanian seat of Bass, GetUp! targeted the former brigadier Andrew Nikolic. For a decorated army man who represented his constituents as well as he fought for his country, Nikolic’s only crime as far as GetUp! was concerned was his support for conservative values.

This wasn’t a fair and upfront contest.

They flew in a number of paid operatives to Tasmania and — by their own reports — mobilised members to have more than 18,000 conversations with voters, funded widespread ­advertising and digital communications, and handed out how-to-votes at 22 polling booths.

That’s right, a so-called independent organisation handing out how-to-vote cards to direct support away from the Liberal Party.

As the final votes were still being counted, GetUp!’s national director said: “The next government, whoever forms it, needs to be run by a leader, not someone who panders to global warming deniers, homophobes and racists.”

If their campaigning didn’t show their bias, these words do because it is always the left who are quick to resort to the “you’re a racist” jibe, as well as the rest.

Let’s be very clear.

GetUp! are not fighting for activist causes, they’re waging a campaign to purge conservatives from the Liberal Party ­because of their strong stand on issues such as immigration, ­Islamic terrorism and values, just to name a few.

In the last financial year, GetUp!’s reported revenue was just on $10 million.

That compares well with what it takes to run the Liberal Party’s federal outfit.

And with its mastery of ­online, low-value-high-volume fundraising, this revenue figure will only grow.

Despite its vociferous campaign against political parties accepting foreign donations, it was recently revealed that GetUp! had accepted more than $300,000 in overseas ­donations over the past two years.

Not only are their claims of independence false, but GetUp! is rich in hypocrisy too.

Amazingly, the Australian Electoral Commission does not treat GetUp! as an arm of the Labor Party even though everything it does has the effect of helping Labor to win.

Unlike the unions, GetUp! is not classified as an associated entity, and unlike political parties, it is not required to disclose all donations, only those that directly relate to election campaigning.

Regardless of what it might claim, the reality is that GetUp! always campaigns against the Liberal Party and that means it is always campaigning for the Labor Party.

It’s about time it was treated as a political party.

The AEC is not doing its job properly while it expects less of GetUp! than of declared politically aligned bodies.

Along with the normal Labor campaign and the unions’ collective and individual efforts, this — and more — is what the Coalition will be up against next time, and with the campaign against the immigration minister starting now, they mean business.

When he was national secretary of the Australian Workers’ Union, Bill Shorten was on the GetUp! board.

GetUp!’s current chair is a former union official. Its other directors, with one possible exception, are all refugee and environmental activists.

Its first national director went on to become a Greens Senate candidate.

On Thursday, GetUp!’s deputy chair Carla McGrath was appointed to the Australian Press Council to adjudicate media complaints in a move that sparked widespread criticism within media and political circles.

So far no conservative or centre-right movement has had the focus or the savvy to rival GetUp!

That must change.

So too must the electoral rules that allow GetUp! to avoid the scrutiny that every other political player gets.

Until then everyone who values a fair and transparent democracy needs to see GetUp! for what it is.

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:04:46
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1074939
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/it-is-time-to-see-getup-for-what-it-is-a-political-party/news-story/813fa8b60974afa5062a89000bd654bb

peta credlin

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:10:09
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1074941
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

ChrispenEvan said:


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/it-is-time-to-see-getup-for-what-it-is-a-political-party/news-story/813fa8b60974afa5062a89000bd654bb

peta credlin

I was about to ask who wrote this shit.

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:12:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1074942
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

ThumbsUp for GetUp.

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:18:50
From: Rule 303
ID: 1074944
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Posting political rhetoric as though it was your own unbiased analysis.

Seems legit.

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:33:07
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1074950
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Anyone who thinks GetUp is a politically unbiased organisation is barking at the moon woo woo crazy.

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:37:41
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1074953
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Peak Warming Man said:


Anyone who thinks GetUp is a politically unbiased organisation is barking at the moon woo woo crazy.

Obviously they’re left wing but they’re an activist group, not a political party.

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:41:27
From: Michael V
ID: 1074954
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Bubblecar said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Anyone who thinks GetUp is a politically unbiased organisation is barking at the moon woo woo crazy.

Obviously they’re left wing but they’re an activist group, not a political party.

By definition.

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:42:47
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1074955
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

This is a telling sentence:

>What began 12 years ago as a campaigning outfit to fight for leftist causes — environmental justice, human rights, economic fairness (their words not mine)<

It is actually “her words” that environmental justice, human rights and economic fairness are “leftist causes”.

No room on the right wing bus for such notions.

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:43:21
From: The_observer
ID: 1074956
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

sarahs mum said:


ChrispenEvan said:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/it-is-time-to-see-getup-for-what-it-is-a-political-party/news-story/813fa8b60974afa5062a89000bd654bb

peta credlin

I was about to ask who wrote this shit.

Lol

Progressive lobby group GetUp has raised a war chest of almost $225,000 in just one week to be unleashed against Mr Dutton in a campaign of doorknocking, robo-calls and giant billboards.<<<

From their own site mummy

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:46:22
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1074957
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

woohoo a pointless trolling thread to vent my frustrations in. i love sundays and the little people.

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:48:30
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1074958
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

The_observer said:


sarahs mum said:

ChrispenEvan said:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/it-is-time-to-see-getup-for-what-it-is-a-political-party/news-story/813fa8b60974afa5062a89000bd654bb

peta credlin

I was about to ask who wrote this shit.

Lol

Progressive lobby group GetUp has raised a war chest of almost $225,000 in just one week to be unleashed against Mr Dutton in a campaign of doorknocking, robo-calls and giant billboards.<<<

From their own site mummy

I know. That Getup raised the funds isn’t in question. The slant of the shit is.

If I had the money I would chip in to try to get rid of Dutton. I used to think that Australia was uglified by Howard. The Abbott/Turnbull govts have been very ugly. Dutton distresses me.

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:48:36
From: The_observer
ID: 1074959
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

ChrispenEvan said:


woohoo a pointless trolling thread to vent my frustrations in. i love sundays and the little people.

If my intention was to upset, it’s worked!

Little people 1

Left wing fuckwit zero

LOL

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:49:17
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1074960
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Peak Warming Man said:


Anyone who thinks GetUp is a politically unbiased organisation is barking at the moon woo woo crazy.

Agreed. They are an organisation with a specific political agenda, just like any other pressure group, and many other organisations.

The Daily Telegraph for instance.

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:50:17
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1074961
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Anyone who thinks GetUp is a politically unbiased organisation is barking at the moon woo woo crazy.

Agreed. They are an organisation with a specific political agenda, just like any other pressure group, and many other organisations.

The Daily Telegraph for instance.

Ugly.

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:51:19
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1074962
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

There have been various attempts to create a conservative equivalent of GetUp and they haven’t worked. Now the Tories are just jealous.

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:51:30
From: The_observer
ID: 1074963
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

sarahs mum said:


The_observer said:

sarahs mum said:

I was about to ask who wrote this shit.

Lol

Progressive lobby group GetUp has raised a war chest of almost $225,000 in just one week to be unleashed against Mr Dutton in a campaign of doorknocking, robo-calls and giant billboards.<<<

From their own site mummy

I know. That Getup raised the funds isn’t in question. The slant of the shit is.

If I had the money I would chip in to try to get rid of Dutton. I used to think that Australia was uglified by Howard. The Abbott/Turnbull govts have been very ugly. Dutton distresses me.

Dutton is wonderful, unlike the sleezy gutless say anything for votes scum you admire

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:52:40
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1074964
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

The_observer said:


ChrispenEvan said:

woohoo a pointless trolling thread to vent my frustrations in. i love sundays and the little people.

If my intention was to upset, it’s worked!

Little people 1

Left wing fuckwit zero

LOL

i’m not upset. you haven’t got it to do that to me. but i get to you though. because you know you are a little person. and it galls you to know you have no point.

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:53:20
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1074965
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Witty Rejoinder said:


There have been various attempts to create a conservative equivalent of GetUp and they haven’t worked. Now the Tories are just jealous.

can’t even organise a government.

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:53:58
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1074966
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

The_observer said:


sarahs mum said:

The_observer said:

Lol

Progressive lobby group GetUp has raised a war chest of almost $225,000 in just one week to be unleashed against Mr Dutton in a campaign of doorknocking, robo-calls and giant billboards.<<<

From their own site mummy

I know. That Getup raised the funds isn’t in question. The slant of the shit is.

If I had the money I would chip in to try to get rid of Dutton. I used to think that Australia was uglified by Howard. The Abbott/Turnbull govts have been very ugly. Dutton distresses me.

Dutton is wonderful, unlike the sleezy gutless say anything for votes scum you admire

LOL. pathetic trolling. geez, at least put some effort in.

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:54:30
From: The_observer
ID: 1074967
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Anyone who thinks GetUp is a politically unbiased organisation is barking at the moon woo woo crazy.

Agreed. They are an organisation with a specific political agenda, just like any other pressure group, and many other organisations.

The Daily Telegraph for instance.

You would hate the Tele, unlike fairfax & the abc, the tele gives voice to both sides. Thats why I usually only read h alf of it.

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:57:28
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1074969
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

ChrispenEvan said:


The_observer said:

sarahs mum said:

I know. That Getup raised the funds isn’t in question. The slant of the shit is.

If I had the money I would chip in to try to get rid of Dutton. I used to think that Australia was uglified by Howard. The Abbott/Turnbull govts have been very ugly. Dutton distresses me.

Dutton is wonderful, unlike the sleezy gutless say anything for votes scum you admire

LOL. pathetic trolling. geez, at least put some effort in.

+1

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:57:58
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1074971
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

But anyway, fair go for Ms Credlin.

So long as she argues that all other organisations that claim to be independent, but in fact have a political agenda that aligns with a political party, should be forced to become a political party, then it is a perfectly consistent argument. It might even have some benefits, although some might see it as a limitation on free speech.

The Institute of Public Affairs for instance.

She does argue that The Institute of Public Affairs should be forced to register as a political party I presume?

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Date: 5/06/2017 04:58:50
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1074972
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

The_observer said:

You would hate the Tele, unlike fairfax & the abc, the tele gives voice to both sides. Thats why I usually only read h alf of it.

Both sides? I must be imagining Peter Reith, Amanda Vanstone, Chris Berg and John Roskam writing for Fairfax.

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Date: 5/06/2017 05:00:50
From: sibeen
ID: 1074974
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

So, let me get this straight in my head. Some of you people are claiming that Get-up is a pressure group.

goes away to mull things over

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Date: 5/06/2017 05:02:15
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1074975
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

sibeen said:


So, let me get this straight in my head. Some of you people are claiming that Get-up is a pressure group.

goes away to mull things over

do do drugs man!

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Date: 5/06/2017 05:03:02
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1074976
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

ChrispenEvan said:


sibeen said:

So, let me get this straight in my head. Some of you people are claiming that Get-up is a pressure group.

goes away to mull things over

do do drugs man!

sorry that should read don’t do drugs man. drugs are bad, m’kay.

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Date: 5/06/2017 05:05:34
From: kii
ID: 1074978
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

ChrispenEvan said:


ChrispenEvan said:

sibeen said:

So, let me get this straight in my head. Some of you people are claiming that Get-up is a pressure group.

goes away to mull things over

do do drugs man!

sorry that should read don’t do drugs man. drugs are bad, m’kay.

Do the right drugs at the appropriate time. Drugs are okay, man.

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Date: 5/06/2017 05:06:41
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1074980
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

kii said:


ChrispenEvan said:

ChrispenEvan said:

do do drugs man!

sorry that should read don’t do drugs man. drugs are bad, m’kay.

Do the right drugs at the appropriate time. Drugs are okay, man.

of course you would say that!

:-)

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Date: 5/06/2017 05:12:54
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1074981
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Reading more about the Institute of Public Affairs I am yet more convinced that Ms Credlin makes exactly the same argument against them, when not writing in the Daily Telegraph.

Question. When is libertarianism not liberating? Answer: When it’s really a feudalistic patriarchy, a trompe l’oeil of birds and flowers hiding a hardhead pile-driving agenda. In particular, when it’s the low-profile but remarkably influential Institute of Public Affairs.

The IPA is usually described as a “radical libertarian think tank” but it’s not libertarian, since its freedoms for the few spell oppression for the many. It’s also not-thoughtful and so not-public it’s almost clandestine.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/institute-of-public-affairs-the-think-tank-with-arms-everywhere-20160406-gnzlhq.html

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Date: 5/06/2017 05:36:43
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1074987
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

The Rev Dodgson said:


Reading more about the Institute of Public Affairs I am yet more convinced that Ms Credlin makes exactly the same argument against them, when not writing in the Daily Telegraph.

Question. When is libertarianism not liberating? Answer: When it’s really a feudalistic patriarchy, a trompe l’oeil of birds and flowers hiding a hardhead pile-driving agenda. In particular, when it’s the low-profile but remarkably influential Institute of Public Affairs.

The IPA is usually described as a “radical libertarian think tank” but it’s not libertarian, since its freedoms for the few spell oppression for the many. It’s also not-thoughtful and so not-public it’s almost clandestine.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/institute-of-public-affairs-the-think-tank-with-arms-everywhere-20160406-gnzlhq.html

It’s a fair argument Rev.

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Date: 5/06/2017 05:54:27
From: Michael V
ID: 1074989
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Some interesting reading in this lot.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Think_Tanks/Australia

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Institute_of_Public_Affairs

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Sydney_Institute

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Centre_for_Independent_Studies

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Australian_Environment_Foundation

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/HR_Nicholls_Society

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Lavoisier_Group

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Date: 5/06/2017 06:03:23
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1074996
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Michael V said:


Some interesting reading in this lot.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Think_Tanks/Australia

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Institute_of_Public_Affairs

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Sydney_Institute

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Centre_for_Independent_Studies

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Australian_Environment_Foundation

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/HR_Nicholls_Society

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Lavoisier_Group

Thanks MV.

Looks like a good source of information on these groups, all of which Ms Credlin disapproves of equally, I’m sure.

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Date: 5/06/2017 06:05:40
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1075000
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

I haven’t read the whole thread sorry, but anything that’ll get Dutton kicked out I 100% support.
The sooner that fucking parasite is history the better.

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Date: 5/06/2017 06:08:44
From: Michael V
ID: 1075004
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

The Rev Dodgson said:


Michael V said:

Some interesting reading in this lot.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Think_Tanks/Australia

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Institute_of_Public_Affairs

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Sydney_Institute

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Centre_for_Independent_Studies

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Australian_Environment_Foundation

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/HR_Nicholls_Society

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Lavoisier_Group

Thanks MV.

Looks like a good source of information on these groups, all of which Ms Credlin disapproves of equally, I’m sure.

Cheers.

Also there is this mob…

https://www.natalt.org/the-anti-jerusalem-declaration/

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Date: 5/06/2017 06:12:26
From: sibeen
ID: 1075006
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Michael V said:

Also there is this mob…

https://www.natalt.org/the-anti-jerusalem-declaration/

Jaysus, just had a read.

They appear to be…nutjobs.

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Date: 5/06/2017 06:20:27
From: Michael V
ID: 1075009
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

sibeen said:


Michael V said:

Also there is this mob…

https://www.natalt.org/the-anti-jerusalem-declaration/

Jaysus, just had a read.

They appear to be…nutjobs.

They’re out there.

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Date: 5/06/2017 06:25:38
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1075011
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Michael V said:


sibeen said:

Michael V said:

Also there is this mob…

https://www.natalt.org/the-anti-jerusalem-declaration/

Jaysus, just had a read.

They appear to be…nutjobs.

They’re out there.

sorry but i don’t read rightwing stuff as they don’t reinforce my confirmation biases.

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Date: 5/06/2017 06:28:34
From: Michael V
ID: 1075012
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

ChrispenEvan said:


Michael V said:

sibeen said:

Jaysus, just had a read.

They appear to be…nutjobs.

They’re out there.

sorry but i don’t read rightwing stuff as they don’t reinforce my confirmation biases.

You should read them. I reckon you’ll find they reinforce your opinions.

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Date: 5/06/2017 06:30:43
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1075013
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Michael V said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

They’re out there.

sorry but i don’t read rightwing stuff as they don’t reinforce my confirmation biases.

You should read them. I reckon you’ll find they reinforce your opinions.

it’s like reading conspiracy theory stuff, or pseudoscience, can only do so much until the brain fogs over with the level of bullshit, denial and outright lies.

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Date: 5/06/2017 06:32:39
From: Michael V
ID: 1075014
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

ChrispenEvan said:


Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

sorry but i don’t read rightwing stuff as they don’t reinforce my confirmation biases.

You should read them. I reckon you’ll find they reinforce your opinions.

it’s like reading conspiracy theory stuff, or pseudoscience, can only do so much until the brain fogs over with the level of bullshit, denial and outright lies.

Heh! Yeah, fair enough.

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Date: 5/06/2017 06:34:56
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1075016
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

I like reading Trump outrage sites, good for a chuckle.

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Date: 5/06/2017 06:36:54
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1075017
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Peak Warming Man said:


I like reading Trump outrage sites, good for a chuckle.

at least there is something new there every few hours.

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Date: 5/06/2017 06:37:07
From: party_pants
ID: 1075018
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

The_observer said:

Those of us who feel safe with Peter Dutton in charge of our borders …

Did LOL.

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Date: 5/06/2017 06:39:01
From: Speedy
ID: 1075019
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

ChrispenEvan said:


Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

sorry but i don’t read rightwing stuff as they don’t reinforce my confirmation biases.

You should read them. I reckon you’ll find they reinforce your opinions.

it’s like reading conspiracy theory stuff, or pseudoscience, can only do so much until the brain fogs over with the level of bullshit, denial and outright lies.

You can’t deny that it’s interesting to see how the other half live.

I am a member of a couple of fb groups who are complete nutjobs. Those Pauline Hanson supporters are batshit crazy, but it’s the SSSF loonies that really take the cake! ;)

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Date: 5/06/2017 06:54:56
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1075020
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

I used to support GetUp, but after a while I gave them away. I considered them very biased and idealistic, very much like young people who think they know how it all works, but lack understanding of the broader issues.

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Date: 5/06/2017 07:15:30
From: The_observer
ID: 1075022
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Bubblecar said:


This is a telling sentence:

>What began 12 years ago as a campaigning outfit to fight for leftist causes — environmental justice, human rights, economic fairness (their words not mine)<

It is actually “her words” that environmental justice, human rights and economic fairness are “leftist causes”.

No room on the right wing bus for such notions.

Quote from the communist GetUp site ~ “We campaign on issues that our members care about in the fields of Environmental Justice, Human Rights, Economic Fairness and Democracy.”

It is their words bubblebrain.

R U next going to suggest getup are not leftwing?

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Date: 5/06/2017 07:21:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1075024
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

The_observer said:


Bubblecar said:

This is a telling sentence:

>What began 12 years ago as a campaigning outfit to fight for leftist causes — environmental justice, human rights, economic fairness (their words not mine)<

It is actually “her words” that environmental justice, human rights and economic fairness are “leftist causes”.

No room on the right wing bus for such notions.

Quote from the communist GetUp site ~ “We campaign on issues that our members care about in the fields of Environmental Justice, Human Rights, Economic Fairness and Democracy.”

It is their words bubblebrain.

R U next going to suggest getup are not leftwing?

car already said they were left wing.

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Date: 5/06/2017 07:23:12
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1075025
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

The_observer said:


Bubblecar said:

This is a telling sentence:

>What began 12 years ago as a campaigning outfit to fight for leftist causes — environmental justice, human rights, economic fairness (their words not mine)<

It is actually “her words” that environmental justice, human rights and economic fairness are “leftist causes”.

No room on the right wing bus for such notions.

Quote from the communist GetUp site ~ “We campaign on issues that our members care about in the fields of Environmental Justice, Human Rights, Economic Fairness and Democracy.”

It is their words bubblebrain.

R U next going to suggest getup are not leftwing?

You missed my point. Like you, Credlin dismisses environmental justice, human rights and economic fairness as “leftist causes” because she’s a conservative who proudly believes in environmental destruction, abuse of human of rights, and economic exploitation for the benefit of the 1%.

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Date: 5/06/2017 07:23:18
From: party_pants
ID: 1075026
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

They could just sacrifice a Cling-on and find Dutton a safer seat.

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Date: 5/06/2017 07:35:18
From: The_observer
ID: 1075033
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Bubblecar said:


The_observer said:

Bubblecar said:

This is a telling sentence:

>What began 12 years ago as a campaigning outfit to fight for leftist causes — environmental justice, human rights, economic fairness (their words not mine)<

It is actually “her words” that environmental justice, human rights and economic fairness are “leftist causes”.

No room on the right wing bus for such notions.

Quote from the communist GetUp site ~ “We campaign on issues that our members care about in the fields of Environmental Justice, Human Rights, Economic Fairness and Democracy.”

It is their words bubblebrain.

R U next going to suggest getup are not leftwing?

You missed my point. Like you, Credlin dismisses environmental justice, human rights and economic fairness as “leftist causes” because she’s a conservative who proudly believes in environmental destruction, abuse of human of rights, and economic exploitation for the benefit of the 1%.

environmental justice, human rights hey.

So the leftwing global swarming movement, who’s ideologies, activism & policies keep billions of people in an existence without electricity & in poverty killing millions of them yearly is great, & capitolism is bad, in your opinion.

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Date: 5/06/2017 07:37:20
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1075034
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

I do love Duttons for Buttons

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Date: 5/06/2017 07:38:55
From: Michael V
ID: 1075035
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

sarahs mum said:


I do love Duttons for Buttons

!http://www.duttonsforbuttons.co.uk/assets/images/YORK1.jpg

!http://www.duttonsforbuttons.co.uk/assets/images/003FRONT_PAGE.jpg

!http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nu8knhZyjEk/TFNEA4N8wcI/AAAAAAAAAOE/JAIPOFJ3zx8/s1600/a_reuseable_hessian_bag.jpg

!http://indieyork.blob.core.windows.net/media/1031/duttons-01.jpg

Wow!

Just wow!

:)

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Date: 5/06/2017 07:40:11
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1075036
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

I do love Duttons for Buttons

!http://www.duttonsforbuttons.co.uk/assets/images/YORK1.jpg

!http://www.duttonsforbuttons.co.uk/assets/images/003FRONT_PAGE.jpg

!http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nu8knhZyjEk/TFNEA4N8wcI/AAAAAAAAAOE/JAIPOFJ3zx8/s1600/a_reuseable_hessian_bag.jpg

!http://indieyork.blob.core.windows.net/media/1031/duttons-01.jpg

Wow!

Just wow!

:)

I know. I got so excited I lost my camera.

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Date: 5/06/2017 07:41:11
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1075037
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

sarahs mum said:


Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

I do love Duttons for Buttons

!http://www.duttonsforbuttons.co.uk/assets/images/YORK1.jpg

!http://www.duttonsforbuttons.co.uk/assets/images/003FRONT_PAGE.jpg

!http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nu8knhZyjEk/TFNEA4N8wcI/AAAAAAAAAOE/JAIPOFJ3zx8/s1600/a_reuseable_hessian_bag.jpg

!http://indieyork.blob.core.windows.net/media/1031/duttons-01.jpg

Wow!

Just wow!

:)

I know. I got so excited I lost my camera.

(the camera was found.)

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Date: 5/06/2017 07:42:51
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1075038
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

The_observer said:


environmental justice, human rights hey.

So the leftwing global swarming movement, who’s ideologies, activism & policies keep billions of people in an existence without electricity & in poverty killing millions of them yearly is great, & capitolism is bad, in your opinion.

Capitalism is fine as long as it’s fully regulated by redistributive taxation, comprehensive health, education and social security systems, effective environmental protection, full human rights legislation etc etc.

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Date: 5/06/2017 07:43:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1075039
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

sarahs mum said:


I do love Duttons for Buttons


Paradise for the button glutton :)

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Date: 5/06/2017 07:45:49
From: Speedy
ID: 1075040
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

Wow!

Just wow!

:)

I know. I got so excited I lost my camera.

(the camera was found.)

Here’s one closer to home…

http://www.allbuttons.com.au/buttons.html

I could just imagine some of the customers…

“Mmmm…it’s just not what I was after. Do you have this one here with the blue star but in pink?”

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Date: 5/06/2017 07:50:46
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1075041
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Bubblecar said:


The_observer said:

environmental justice, human rights hey.

So the leftwing global swarming movement, who’s ideologies, activism & policies keep billions of people in an existence without electricity & in poverty killing millions of them yearly is great, & capitolism is bad, in your opinion.

Capitalism is fine as long as it’s fully regulated by redistributive taxation, comprehensive health, education and social security systems, effective environmental protection, full human rights legislation etc etc.

Political parties like left and right are not working for thinking people, as all you get is blinkered ideology, where nothing is fair or just, right or wrong, just bloody mindedness for one view or another. We don’t need this crap, we need some honesty and an attempt to do the right thing, not for political or monetary gain, but because it is the right thing to do.

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Date: 5/06/2017 07:57:22
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1075043
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Speedy said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

I know. I got so excited I lost my camera.

(the camera was found.)

Here’s one closer to home…

http://www.allbuttons.com.au/buttons.html

I could just imagine some of the customers…

“Mmmm…it’s just not what I was after. Do you have this one here with the blue star but in pink?”

Newtown IS sort of closer.

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Date: 5/06/2017 08:13:20
From: Ian
ID: 1075047
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

GetUp gets up Barnaby’s nose so it must be doing something right.

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Date: 5/06/2017 08:24:47
From: Michael V
ID: 1075050
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

sarahs mum said:


Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

I do love Duttons for Buttons

!http://www.duttonsforbuttons.co.uk/assets/images/YORK1.jpg

!http://www.duttonsforbuttons.co.uk/assets/images/003FRONT_PAGE.jpg

!http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nu8knhZyjEk/TFNEA4N8wcI/AAAAAAAAAOE/JAIPOFJ3zx8/s1600/a_reuseable_hessian_bag.jpg

!http://indieyork.blob.core.windows.net/media/1031/duttons-01.jpg

Wow!

Just wow!

:)

I know. I got so excited I lost my camera.

Hahahaha!

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Date: 5/06/2017 08:25:09
From: Michael V
ID: 1075051
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

Wow!

Just wow!

:)

I know. I got so excited I lost my camera.

(the camera was found.)

phew

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Date: 5/06/2017 08:27:02
From: Michael V
ID: 1075052
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Bubblecar said:


The_observer said:

environmental justice, human rights hey.

So the leftwing global swarming movement, who’s ideologies, activism & policies keep billions of people in an existence without electricity & in poverty killing millions of them yearly is great, & capitolism is bad, in your opinion.

Capitalism is fine as long as it’s fully regulated by redistributive taxation, comprehensive health, education and social security systems, effective environmental protection, full human rights legislation etc etc.

He was talking about capitolism. I think that’s different to capitalism. And a global swarming movement. Bees, I expect.

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Date: 5/06/2017 08:59:28
From: The_observer
ID: 1075061
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Michael V said:


Bubblecar said:

The_observer said:

environmental justice, human rights hey.

So the leftwing global swarming movement, who’s ideologies, activism & policies keep billions of people in an existence without electricity & in poverty killing millions of them yearly is great, & capitolism is bad, in your opinion.

Capitalism is fine as long as it’s fully regulated by redistributive taxation, comprehensive health, education and social security systems, effective environmental protection, full human rights legislation etc etc.

He was talking about capitolism. I think that’s different to capitalism. And a global swarming movement. Bees, I expect.

LOL, you’re funny

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Date: 5/06/2017 09:03:24
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1075064
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Michael V said:


Bubblecar said:

The_observer said:

environmental justice, human rights hey.

So the leftwing global swarming movement, who’s ideologies, activism & policies keep billions of people in an existence without electricity & in poverty killing millions of them yearly is great, & capitolism is bad, in your opinion.

Capitalism is fine as long as it’s fully regulated by redistributive taxation, comprehensive health, education and social security systems, effective environmental protection, full human rights legislation etc etc.

He was talking about capitolism. I think that’s different to capitalism. And a global swarming movement. Bees, I expect.

who knows what TO means. he isn’t quite right in the head. i mean he gets his jollies trolling a basically unknown forum. got to be pointless.

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Date: 5/06/2017 09:27:12
From: The_observer
ID: 1075095
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

ChrispenEvan said:

who knows what TO means. he isn’t quite right in the head. i mean he gets his jollies trolling a basically unknown forum. got to be pointless.

I enjoy interacting with the little people

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Date: 5/06/2017 09:28:12
From: mcgoon
ID: 1075096
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

The_observer said:


ChrispenEvan said:

who knows what TO means. he isn’t quite right in the head. i mean he gets his jollies trolling a basically unknown forum. got to be pointless.

I enjoy interacting with the little people

White mice.

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Date: 5/06/2017 09:35:33
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1075097
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

mcgoon said:


The_observer said:

ChrispenEvan said:

who knows what TO means. he isn’t quite right in the head. i mean he gets his jollies trolling a basically unknown forum. got to be pointless.

I enjoy interacting with the little people

White mice.

no, he means he plays with himself.

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Date: 5/06/2017 09:43:50
From: The_observer
ID: 1075100
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

ChrispenEvan said:


mcgoon said:

The_observer said:

I enjoy interacting with the little people

White mice.

no, he means he plays with himself.

LOL, I’m sure a crusty old grey haired hippie pensioner, who lives all by himself would know about playing with ones self.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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Date: 5/06/2017 09:46:28
From: mcgoon
ID: 1075101
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

ChrispenEvan said:

who knows what TO means. he isn’t quite right in the head. i mean he gets his jollies trolling a basically unknown forum. got to be pointless.

What forum dat be?

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Date: 5/06/2017 09:47:57
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1075102
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

mcgoon said:


ChrispenEvan said:

who knows what TO means. he isn’t quite right in the head. i mean he gets his jollies trolling a basically unknown forum. got to be pointless.

What forum dat be?

Here

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Date: 5/06/2017 09:51:56
From: mcgoon
ID: 1075103
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

ChrispenEvan said:


mcgoon said:

ChrispenEvan said:

who knows what TO means. he isn’t quite right in the head. i mean he gets his jollies trolling a basically unknown forum. got to be pointless.

What forum dat be?

Oh, that forum.

I just found out, this whole thing revolves around something written by Peta Credlin.

Peta Credlin.

Peta Bloody Credlin.

Peta Bloody Mother-f***ing Credlin.

To go all Godwin on it, that’s like listening to what Julius Streicher had to say about Jews.

Here

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Date: 5/06/2017 09:53:18
From: mcgoon
ID: 1075104
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

Anyway, dog is saying it’s time to patrol to ensure local cats are obeying curfew.

BBL later. Maybe.

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Date: 5/06/2017 10:09:08
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1075105
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

We few we cur few.

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Date: 10/06/2017 11:41:44
From: The_observer
ID: 1077262
Subject: re: GetUp, just a far left political party

The Rev

Looks like a good source of information on these groups, all of which Ms Credlin disapproves of equally, I’m sure.

[/quote said:

The difference between the conservative groups & your prefered far left groups like get up, Rev, is your mob continually demonstrate what violent, intolerant, fascist terrorists they are.

Just ask Andy Bolt, who just punched shit out of a couple of the cowards

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