Date: 6/06/2017 06:10:18
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1075375
Subject: Tax Reform

How much different could Australia be if everyone could specify 10 percent of their tax goes towards nominated industries?

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Date: 6/06/2017 06:12:11
From: furious
ID: 1075380
Subject: re: Tax Reform

Well, for starters, everyone would be paying 10% more tax…

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Date: 6/06/2017 06:29:05
From: Tamb
ID: 1075386
Subject: re: Tax Reform

Tau.Neutrino said:

How much different could Australia be if everyone could specify 10 percent of their tax goes towards nominated industries?


It would end up being 10% minus operating expenses i.e. near zero.

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Date: 6/06/2017 06:56:01
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1075410
Subject: re: Tax Reform

Tau.Neutrino said:

How much different could Australia be if everyone could specify 10 percent of their tax goes towards nominated industries?

That’s a novel idea, and not a bad one. For starters, it would tell the government where its budget is going wrong.

Could you be a bit more specific, or more general, about what you mean by “industries”?

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Date: 6/06/2017 06:56:23
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1075411
Subject: re: Tax Reform

Tamb said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

How much different could Australia be if everyone could specify 10 percent of their tax goes towards nominated industries?


It would end up being 10% minus operating expenses i.e. near zero.

No, the additional cost wold be a small proportion of the revenue.

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Date: 6/06/2017 06:56:38
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1075412
Subject: re: Tax Reform

Tamb said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

How much different could Australia be if everyone could specify 10 percent of their tax goes towards nominated industries?


It would end up being 10% minus operating expenses i.e. near zero.

BS

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Date: 6/06/2017 06:57:55
From: Tamb
ID: 1075416
Subject: re: Tax Reform

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tamb said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

How much different could Australia be if everyone could specify 10 percent of their tax goes towards nominated industries?


It would end up being 10% minus operating expenses i.e. near zero.

No, the additional cost wold be a small proportion of the revenue.


Wasn’t there some Centrelink scheme which cost more than it earned?

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Date: 6/06/2017 06:59:46
From: furious
ID: 1075417
Subject: re: Tax Reform

Federal funding should not be a popularity contest…

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Date: 6/06/2017 07:04:33
From: party_pants
ID: 1075423
Subject: re: Tax Reform

furious said:

  • For starters, it would tell the government where its budget is going wrong.

Federal funding should not be a popularity contest…

Governments are elected to govern etc…

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Date: 6/06/2017 07:07:37
From: Tamb
ID: 1075425
Subject: re: Tax Reform

party_pants said:


furious said:
  • For starters, it would tell the government where its budget is going wrong.

Federal funding should not be a popularity contest…

Governments are elected to govern etc…


But aren’t governments elected in a popularity contest?

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Date: 6/06/2017 07:08:48
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1075426
Subject: re: Tax Reform

Tamb said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tamb said:

It would end up being 10% minus operating expenses i.e. near zero.

No, the additional cost wold be a small proportion of the revenue.


Wasn’t there some Centrelink scheme which cost more than it earned?

What does a small scale scheme with high implementation costs have to do with a scheme which would have a he income, and most of the implementation is already in place, i.e the income tax collection system.

I’m not saying it’s a good idea, since the benefits envisaged are already in place through charity concessions, but the suggestion that it would inevitably have zero nett income is nonsense.

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Date: 6/06/2017 07:10:31
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1075427
Subject: re: Tax Reform

furious said:

  • For starters, it would tell the government where its budget is going wrong.

Federal funding should not be a popularity contest…

Of course it should. That’s how democracies work.

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Date: 6/06/2017 07:10:40
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1075429
Subject: re: Tax Reform

mollwollfumble said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

How much different could Australia be if everyone could specify 10 percent of their tax goes towards nominated industries?

That’s a novel idea, and not a bad one. For starters, it would tell the government where its budget is going wrong.

Could you be a bit more specific, or more general, about what you mean by “industries”?

Industries like aerospace, space mining, rocket industries to develop nano satellite delivery systems.

Expand it to include government run research centers like CSIRO.

People could nominate multiple industries and specific research centers like cancer research.

Within an organization like CSIRO people could specify that a certain percentage goes towards climate research.

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Date: 6/06/2017 07:14:05
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1075432
Subject: re: Tax Reform

Tau.Neutrino said:


mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

How much different could Australia be if everyone could specify 10 percent of their tax goes towards nominated industries?

That’s a novel idea, and not a bad one. For starters, it would tell the government where its budget is going wrong.

Could you be a bit more specific, or more general, about what you mean by “industries”?

Industries like aerospace, space mining, rocket industries to develop nano satellite delivery systems.

Expand it to include government run research centers like CSIRO.

People could nominate multiple industries and specific research centers like cancer research.

Within an organization like CSIRO people could specify that a certain percentage goes towards climate research.

Think the most cute and cuddly would get all the money.

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Date: 6/06/2017 07:14:23
From: furious
ID: 1075433
Subject: re: Tax Reform

No. Elections might have a portion of popularity contest about them but when it comes to spending decisions and making laws then it is up to the government to determine what is in the best interest for the majority of people. Might not always work that way but sometimes people have to put up with things they don’t like…

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Date: 6/06/2017 07:15:03
From: furious
ID: 1075434
Subject: re: Tax Reform

Who gets to decide which industries are in the mix for this cash?

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Date: 6/06/2017 07:24:02
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1075438
Subject: re: Tax Reform

furious said:

  • People could nominate multiple industries and specific research centers like cancer research.

Who gets to decide which industries are in the mix for this cash?

Specific cancer research organizations would be nominated.

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Date: 6/06/2017 07:31:12
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1075440
Subject: re: Tax Reform

Maybe put some money towards a Melb to Syd hyperloop system.

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Date: 6/06/2017 07:32:22
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1075441
Subject: re: Tax Reform

Tau.Neutrino said:


mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

How much different could Australia be if everyone could specify 10 percent of their tax goes towards nominated industries?

That’s a novel idea, and not a bad one. For starters, it would tell the government where its budget is going wrong.

Could you be a bit more specific, or more general, about what you mean by “industries”?

Industries like aerospace, space mining, rocket industries to develop nano satellite delivery systems.

Expand it to include government run research centers like CSIRO.

People could nominate multiple industries and specific research centers like cancer research.

Within an organization like CSIRO people could specify that a certain percentage goes towards climate research.

I was wondering if, say, that could be more general such as tertiary education, social services, artillery, water security, salaries, accountability, car industry, uranium etc.

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Date: 6/06/2017 07:35:50
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1075443
Subject: re: Tax Reform

Tau.Neutrino said:


Maybe put some money towards a Melb to Syd hyperloop system.

I prefer Cairns to Adelaide coastal freeway plus high speed train plus water plus other pipework all running together.

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Date: 6/06/2017 07:37:20
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1075444
Subject: re: Tax Reform

mollwollfumble said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

mollwollfumble said:

That’s a novel idea, and not a bad one. For starters, it would tell the government where its budget is going wrong.

Could you be a bit more specific, or more general, about what you mean by “industries”?

Industries like aerospace, space mining, rocket industries to develop nano satellite delivery systems.

Expand it to include government run research centers like CSIRO.

People could nominate multiple industries and specific research centers like cancer research.

Within an organization like CSIRO people could specify that a certain percentage goes towards climate research.

I was wondering if, say, that could be more general such as tertiary education, social services, artillery, water security, salaries, accountability, car industry, uranium etc.

Yes, people could specify anything

It should be flexible

Everyone is different

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Date: 6/06/2017 07:44:54
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1075447
Subject: re: Tax Reform

>>>For starters, it would tell the government where its budget is going wrong.

Yes, it would serve as a feedback system as well.

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Date: 6/06/2017 07:59:01
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1075456
Subject: re: Tax Reform

mollwollfumble said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

mollwollfumble said:

That’s a novel idea, and not a bad one. For starters, it would tell the government where its budget is going wrong.

Could you be a bit more specific, or more general, about what you mean by “industries”?

Industries like aerospace, space mining, rocket industries to develop nano satellite delivery systems.

Expand it to include government run research centers like CSIRO.

People could nominate multiple industries and specific research centers like cancer research.

Within an organization like CSIRO people could specify that a certain percentage goes towards climate research.

I was wondering if, say, that could be more general such as tertiary education, social services, artillery, water security, salaries, accountability, car industry, uranium etc.

Yes, we need more self propelled guns and MLRS.

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Date: 6/06/2017 08:22:25
From: dv
ID: 1075477
Subject: re: Tax Reform

Tau.Neutrino said:

How much different could Australia be if everyone could specify 10 percent of their tax goes towards nominated industries?

Funnily enough, some European countries have a specific tax that goes towards your nominated religion, and if you don’t have one, it goes towards general revenue.

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Date: 6/06/2017 08:29:55
From: Michael V
ID: 1075481
Subject: re: Tax Reform

dv said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

How much different could Australia be if everyone could specify 10 percent of their tax goes towards nominated industries?

Funnily enough, some European countries have a specific tax that goes towards your nominated religion, and if you don’t have one, it goes towards general revenue.

Tithing, eh.

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Date: 7/06/2017 07:27:12
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1075882
Subject: re: Tax Reform

AwesomeO said:

Yes, we need more self propelled guns and MLRS.

There are sure to be some people who will think so.

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Date: 15/06/2017 11:54:14
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1078862
Subject: re: Tax Reform

how about if everyone in australia actually paid 10 percent tax regardless ?

no deductions

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Date: 15/06/2017 11:58:34
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1078863
Subject: re: Tax Reform

wookiemeister said:


how about if everyone in australia actually paid 10 percent tax regardless ?

no deductions

That would be a tax cut for most high earners.

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Date: 15/06/2017 11:58:40
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1078864
Subject: re: Tax Reform

wookiemeister said:


how about if everyone in australia actually paid 10 percent tax regardless ?

no deductions

The 10% flat tax idea has been around for a while but it never survived the debate, I don’t think the case for it was very strong.

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