Date: 12/06/2017 04:14:31
From: transition
ID: 1077891
Subject: inverted terrorism

Been contemplating this idea for a few weeks, which is a short time for me to think about things, some things I think about for decades, so this is a newborn really.

Jobs to do right now, so’ll get back to it later.

What might inverted terrorism look like?

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Date: 12/06/2017 05:54:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1077907
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

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Date: 12/06/2017 05:56:26
From: Tamb
ID: 1077909
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

Peak Warming Man said:



Clever.

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Date: 12/06/2017 05:57:28
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1077910
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

Peak Warming Man said:



it’s upsidedown mr pete.

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Date: 12/06/2017 06:01:40
From: Tamb
ID: 1077911
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

ChrispenEvan said:


Peak Warming Man said:


it’s upsidedown mr pete.

Southern Hemisphere terrorism.

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Date: 12/06/2017 06:03:15
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1077912
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

Tamb said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Peak Warming Man said:


it’s upsidedown mr pete.

Southern Hemisphere terrorism.

Or Spider terrorism.

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Date: 12/06/2017 06:05:05
From: Tamb
ID: 1077913
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

PermeateFree said:


Tamb said:

ChrispenEvan said:

it’s upsidedown mr pete.

Southern Hemisphere terrorism.

Or Spider terrorism.

So one good rainfall & they’d all be washed out,

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Date: 13/06/2017 16:12:13
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1078325
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

Peak Warming Man said:



approve

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Date: 13/06/2017 17:19:45
From: transition
ID: 1078326
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

i’d just read that below (in the post linked) when started this thread, for context. I won’t post the actual link to the story.

https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1077887/

it strikes me they became a story between advertisements, that being deceased they have no rights (can’t defend themselves), + they are or were evidence (suicide), and the police and media made the deceased public property (the event). Once deceased a person sort of becomes property of the state, certainly when a crime is involved, or possible crime (something whatever, untoward shall I say, rather).

there needs be an audience for such things, so for starters i’m interested in how an audience is groomed and seduced to accept such a story (as entertainment essentially, though I wouldn’t like to insult anyones moral sensibilities now) – how the possible revulsion to the story being in the media is circumvented.

I saw quite a few nasty things about the story, devices shall I say, dubious unducements to indulge.

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Date: 13/06/2017 19:22:47
From: kii
ID: 1078327
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

PermeateFree said:


Tamb said:

ChrispenEvan said:

it’s upsidedown mr pete.

Southern Hemisphere terrorism.

Or Spider terrorism.

Boris was making a Pop Culture reference to Mr Squiggle.

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Date: 14/06/2017 02:03:27
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1078371
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

transition said:


i’d just read that below (in the post linked) when started this thread, for context. I won’t post the actual link to the story.

https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1077887/

it strikes me they became a story between advertisements, that being deceased they have no rights (can’t defend themselves), + they are or were evidence (suicide), and the police and media made the deceased public property (the event). Once deceased a person sort of becomes property of the state, certainly when a crime is involved, or possible crime (something whatever, untoward shall I say, rather).

there needs be an audience for such things, so for starters i’m interested in how an audience is groomed and seduced to accept such a story (as entertainment essentially, though I wouldn’t like to insult anyones moral sensibilities now) – how the possible revulsion to the story being in the media is circumvented.

I saw quite a few nasty things about the story, devices shall I say, dubious unducements to indulge.

To me, “inverted terrorism” is the publication of terrorist acts for shock value in order to improve ratings. Further, restating extreme views in a public forum to promote hatred in order to boost ratings. It should be illegal, and is easier to control than actual suicide bombings. Audience is groomed and seduced to accept such stories by the simple procedure of direct repetition. The more times you repeat a lie, the more it is believed.

> Once deceased a person sort of becomes property of the state, certainly when a crime is involved, or possible crime

I hadn’t thought of that. Is that really true?

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Date: 14/06/2017 03:02:06
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1078386
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

mollwollfumble said:

To me, “inverted terrorism” is the publication of terrorist acts for shock value in order to improve ratings. Further, restating extreme views in a public forum to promote hatred in order to boost ratings. It should be illegal, and is easier to control than actual suicide bombings. Audience is groomed and seduced to accept such stories by the simple procedure of direct repetition. The more times you repeat a lie, the more it is believed.

How many times have you said that?

But seriously, I agree.

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Date: 14/06/2017 04:01:52
From: transition
ID: 1078399
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

>I hadn’t thought of that. Is that really true?

The state’s not an obvious thing in our culture, it’s diluted, and includes media. But yeah, if you’re a VOC (whatever variant) and evidence you will in a sense become property of the state, certainly your trip to the Land Of Autopsy. With a little help from all things good, democratic and free, you might get some help being dissipated into the aether en route, or following.

In a looser sense any deceased become property of the state, it’s why they have to be reported.

I’d guess your birth was registered, as your death will be, and there’s a special section in newspapers for these sorts of things too. There’s allocated areas for your burial too, called cemeteries, so you don’t stink the place up and get eaten by animals. There’s a bit of industry and jobs in you being transitioned also.

Now, more to the subject….

What inverted terrorism might look like.

Think community engagement. You’ll see or hear this term a bit, and it’s not all bad.

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Date: 14/06/2017 06:03:26
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1078420
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

kii said:


PermeateFree said:

Tamb said:

Southern Hemisphere terrorism.

Or Spider terrorism.

Boris was making a Pop Culture reference to Mr Squiggle.

You and Boris will need to make allowances for those who don’t watch those shows.

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Date: 15/06/2017 08:08:07
From: rumpole
ID: 1078798
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

Inverted Terrorism. Like revenge on the families of the deceased suicide bomber ?

I think it’s likely to happen at some point if Islamic terrorism continues.

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Date: 18/06/2017 00:50:03
From: transition
ID: 1079788
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

>The more times you repeat a lie, the more it is believed.

as someone once expressed (can’t recall who), to paraphrase the gist…..the more common an error, the less effort that is required to sustain it.

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Date: 18/06/2017 02:04:06
From: dv
ID: 1079802
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

transition said:


>The more times you repeat a lie, the more it is believed.

as someone once expressed (can’t recall who), to paraphrase the gist…..the more common an error, the less effort that is required to sustain it.

I dunno. I think the more Trump talks, the less people believe him.

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Date: 18/06/2017 02:09:29
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 1079803
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

Is that the less number of people? or the less of his contents? or both?

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Date: 18/06/2017 02:12:24
From: sibeen
ID: 1079804
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

dv said:


transition said:

>The more times you repeat a lie, the more it is believed.

as someone once expressed (can’t recall who), to paraphrase the gist…..the more common an error, the less effort that is required to sustain it.

I dunno. I think the more Trump talks, the less people believe him.

I find it quite amazing that only 55.5% of polled American voter disapprove of his performance. 39% actually think he’s doing a reasonable job.

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Date: 18/06/2017 02:16:27
From: kii
ID: 1079805
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

Alex Jones is talking about Civil War II.

Gawd he is a fuck wit aka a terrorist.

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Date: 18/06/2017 02:27:18
From: mcgoon
ID: 1079806
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

kii said:


Alex Jones is talking about Civil War II.

Gawd he is a fuck wit aka a terrorist.

Is Mr. Jones volunteering to be in the front of the first rank?

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Date: 18/06/2017 02:33:05
From: Ian
ID: 1079808
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

The OP makes no sense imo.

Top google result for “inverted terrorism” is… Subject: inverted terrorism. Been contemplating this idea for a few weeks, which is a short time for me to think about things, some things I think about for decades, so this is a newborn …

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Date: 18/06/2017 03:28:57
From: transition
ID: 1079823
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

>>> “inverted terrorism” is…

Yes, it has been more vague than subtle, granted. I thought the possibility of it existing maybe was important to consider. Or, more accurately, I wouldn’t know if it was worth considering until i’d considered it. It maybe isn’t (worth considering), or a sustained unconclusion may even be useful.

Many things hide in that what are least likely to be (otherwise) recognized for. Humans are artful this way.

My view of the terrorism concept is that it needs an accompanying concept of what it is inverted.

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Date: 18/06/2017 03:31:48
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1079825
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

transition said:


>>> “inverted terrorism” is…

Yes, it has been more vague than subtle, granted. I thought the possibility of it existing maybe was important to consider. Or, more accurately, I wouldn’t know if it was worth considering until i’d considered it. It maybe isn’t (worth considering), or a sustained unconclusion may even be useful.

Many things hide in that what are least likely to be (otherwise) recognized for. Humans are artful this way.

My view of the terrorism concept is that it needs an accompanying concept of what it is inverted.

Surely all forms of humanitarian aid and assistance are “inverted terrorism”.

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Date: 18/06/2017 03:37:45
From: transition
ID: 1079830
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

>Surely all forms of humanitarian aid and assistance are “inverted terrorism

where I was headed, for starters, was of physicalism in our ideology, how it lends to norms (enforcement of, in the informal field).

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Date: 18/06/2017 03:46:51
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1079841
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

transition said:


>Surely all forms of humanitarian aid and assistance are “inverted terrorism

where I was headed, for starters, was of physicalism in our ideology, how it lends to norms (enforcement of, in the informal field).

Even by your normal standards, that’s a pretty mysterious statement :)

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Date: 18/06/2017 06:03:01
From: transition
ID: 1079884
Subject: re: inverted terrorism

>Even by your normal standards, that’s a pretty mysterious statement :)

weird, even :-)

start with the assumption the same nastiness (something similar) one might attribute terrorists exists in many that aren’t terrorists, that never will be.

assuming such a thing exists, where might it or does it go.

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