Date: 8/02/2009 16:20:16
From: veg gardener
ID: 46402
Subject: fires

Firefighters are battling more than 40 fires in New South Wales, with one bushfire at Peats Ridge on the state’s central coast threatening homes.

There are more extreme weather conditions forecast for today and a total fire ban remains in place, but a late southerly change is expected this afternoon.

Fire crews from southern New South Wales will travel to Victoria today to help firefighters struggling to contain fires in that state.

Firefighters are working to establish containment lines around a fire that is threatening homes at Peats Ridge on the state’s central coast.

The Rural Fire Service has applauded residents in the area, saying they have worked hard to protect their homes from the threat of embers.

Rebel Talbert from the Rural Fire Service says people with homes in the area need to be well prepared for the threat of fire.

“This fire is spotting well ahead of itself, so were are expecting the homes will come under impact from ember attack,” she said.

Ms Talbert says the hot and windy conditions have seen many of the fires spread rapidly.

Authorities are carefully monitoring fires at Muswellbrook, Tumut, the Bega Valley, Wybong in the Hunter Valley and Wollemi National Park in the Singleton area.

Firefighters have had to retreat from the fire in the Wollemi National Park in the state’s Hunter region because of extreme temperatures but crews are still monitoring the situation.

The Rural Fire Service says three fires which began in the park this morning have merged, burning about 1,000 hectares of bushland, but it is not threatening any properties.

It says a bushfire in the Bega Valley in the state’s far south has crossed containment lines.

The blaze has burnt more than 1,000 hectares since it began about a week ago at Jingera Rock.

While it is not currently threatening any properties, residents from nearby villages including Towamba, Wyndham and Burragate have been asked to stay prepared.

The New South Wales Rural Fire Service information hotline is 1800 679 737.

Taken from the abc newcastle site.

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Date: 9/02/2009 18:13:14
From: veg gardener
ID: 46465
Subject: re: fires

if you want to here the lasted for the fires http://www.abc.net.au/melbourne/radio/player.htm?winstream=http://abc.net.au/melbourne/onair/774stream.asx&ramstream=http://abc.net.au/melbourne/onair/774stream.ram they are doing updates just try and listen to it online

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Date: 9/02/2009 18:15:06
From: veg gardener
ID: 46467
Subject: re: fires

veg gardener said:


if you want to here the lasted for the fires http://www.abc.net.au/melbourne/radio/player.htm?winstream=http://abc.net.au/melbourne/onair/774stream.asx&ramstream=http://abc.net.au/melbourne/onair/774stream.ram they are doing updates just try and listen to it online

may be not they just keep doing updates.

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Date: 10/02/2009 09:56:25
From: Rook
ID: 46481
Subject: re: fires

Boy its been the worst 3 days of my life, we have been on high alert twice so far but things are looking good today. Cars are packed and ready to go. 3 mates have lost their homes so far but thankfully no lives have been lost. Lets hope they catch these Bastards and make examples of them.

Rook

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Date: 10/02/2009 10:01:05
From: bluegreen
ID: 46482
Subject: re: fires

Rook said:


Boy its been the worst 3 days of my life, we have been on high alert twice so far but things are looking good today. Cars are packed and ready to go. 3 mates have lost their homes so far but thankfully no lives have been lost. Lets hope they catch these Bastards and make examples of them.

Rook

OMG Rook. Make sure you get out early, won’t you?

It feels strange for me to be going on life as usual when people not so far from me have lost everything, or at risk of losing everything. We had prayer time at work yesterday for the fire victims and so many people knew someone that had lost homes, or had to evacutate themselves, or were waiting to hear about someone yet unaccounted for.

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Date: 10/02/2009 10:20:05
From: AnneS
ID: 46483
Subject: re: fires

Rook said:


Boy its been the worst 3 days of my life, we have been on high alert twice so far but things are looking good today. Cars are packed and ready to go. 3 mates have lost their homes so far but thankfully no lives have been lost. Lets hope they catch these Bastards and make examples of them.

Rook

Oh Rook…have been wondering how you are faring! Take care! Our thoughts are with you

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Date: 10/02/2009 10:22:26
From: Rook
ID: 46484
Subject: re: fires

bluegreen said:


Rook said:

Boy its been the worst 3 days of my life, we have been on high alert twice so far but things are looking good today. Cars are packed and ready to go. 3 mates have lost their homes so far but thankfully no lives have been lost. Lets hope they catch these Bastards and make examples of them.

Rook

OMG Rook. Make sure you get out early, won’t you?

It feels strange for me to be going on life as usual when people not so far from me have lost everything, or at risk of losing everything. We had prayer time at work yesterday for the fire victims and so many people knew someone that had lost homes, or had to evacutate themselves, or were waiting to hear about someone yet unaccounted for.

Thanks BG, I have Nat and Sam ready to boot out of the door if the need arises…..its a very stressful and emotional time, I thought it was bad when Geelong lost the Flag :-)

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Date: 10/02/2009 10:29:26
From: Rook
ID: 46485
Subject: re: fires

AnneS said:


Rook said:

Boy its been the worst 3 days of my life, we have been on high alert twice so far but things are looking good today. Cars are packed and ready to go. 3 mates have lost their homes so far but thankfully no lives have been lost. Lets hope they catch these Bastards and make examples of them.

Rook

Oh Rook…have been wondering how you are faring! Take care! Our thoughts are with you

Much appreciated Anne.

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Date: 10/02/2009 10:34:56
From: Lucky1
ID: 46486
Subject: re: fires

Rook said:


Boy its been the worst 3 days of my life, we have been on high alert twice so far but things are looking good today. Cars are packed and ready to go. 3 mates have lost their homes so far but thankfully no lives have been lost. Lets hope they catch these Bastards and make examples of them.

Rook

Oh hell Rook…. sorry to read this is happening to you…stay safe…

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Date: 10/02/2009 10:35:21
From: The Estate
ID: 46487
Subject: re: fires

Oh dear Rook, I hope your at home and not at work ????, Always another flag to be won, not a life life, take care 0×0×0x

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Date: 10/02/2009 10:53:49
From: Happy Potter
ID: 46488
Subject: re: fires

Yes Rook, be careful and don’t wait to be told to go.

Reading about the tradgedy has been so awful, the loss of life and the horror stories :(
With the loss of Brian Naylor and his wife , I feel like I’ve lost an uncle!
I hope new laws will be made and rules to goven when to leave ect. Bunkers would be good, and I read in the comments pages of a formula ‘ 30/30/30 that was followed in the forrested areas in case of a fire ,30 klm winds plus 30 C temp plus the fire front 30 klms away= evacuate. How did this get forgotten about over time, I wonder.
I felt guilty going to the supermarket to buy meat for tea..like what am I doing spending money when people have lost everything..
On friday Coles, (and I expect other supermarkets will follow) will be donating 100% of their profit to the fire funds. I’ll be doing all my shopping on friday then.

We went to give blood yesterday but the place was packed and we couldn’t get in, so we have made appointments for the days coming. We met up with youngest daughter and went for lunch in the city, eldest girl came in with us, but it was a subdued mood in the city, people trying to grasp the enormity of how this tradegy could have happened.

There was a line of people to the donation counter at the bank, heartening to see people digging deep.

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Date: 10/02/2009 11:12:09
From: bluegreen
ID: 46489
Subject: re: fires

there was a sad story on the abc news site of a man who took his 2 children into town while he fought to save his house, thinking they would be safe there. Saved his house but lost his children :(

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Date: 10/02/2009 11:27:09
From: The Estate
ID: 46490
Subject: re: fires

Oh dear that is sad BG

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Date: 10/02/2009 11:29:44
From: AnneS
ID: 46491
Subject: re: fires

Happy Potter said:

Bunkers would be good, and I read in the comments pages of a formula ‘ 30/30/30 that was followed in the forrested areas in case of a fire ,30 klm winds plus 30 C temp plus the fire front 30 klms away= evacuate. How did this get forgotten about over time, I wonder.


My daughter is a town planner for NSW RFS…(except she’s on maternity leave at present). She and I were discussing this very thing the other day and she mentioned that what people must remember is that oxygen is the first thing to go in a fire like that and the bunkers would have to be very carefully constructed to make sure that the air couldn’t be sucked out by the fire raging through.

Also regarding the complaints that people weren’t given early enough advice on whether to go…she said that although there are certain aspects of fire behaviour that are predictable, by and large it is unpredicable. Her honours thesis was on the loss of home as a result of natural disasters and in particular from bushfires.

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Date: 10/02/2009 11:34:12
From: Dinetta
ID: 46492
Subject: re: fires

I hope new laws will be made and rules to goven when to leave ect.
+++++++++

You can’t legislate nature.

One of the factors that made the usual procedures useless, was the 100 kph wind that went through.

I see where they are looking at the fact that many of these settlements were never designed with fire safety in mind….I, for one, have never before heard of a 100kph wind pushing a bushfire along…

Also, there is the story of a couple who survived because they stayed to protect their house (already had a bushfire programme prepared), but when they decided to leave, they found a burnt bit at the end of their driveway where the fire had already been and they were able to shelter there…If they had left at first, they would not have made it…

I don’t know that legislation is the answer…they’re thinking of legislating how old a child can be before it can ride it’s bike to school, for heaven’s sake…I mean adults get killed on their bikes all the time, let’s make the roads safer instead…but I digress…however I do think that the powers that be are going to be looking at all the information available and saying what can we do, we’ve just been through a worst case scenario, let’s put all the facts on the table and learn from this…

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Date: 10/02/2009 11:35:09
From: bubba louie
ID: 46493
Subject: re: fires

So much misery everywhere. I stayed up far too late last night waiting for a couple Scribbly and SSSF guys to log in. Ned2 has turned up but Marcx is still an unknown.

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Date: 10/02/2009 11:35:42
From: Dinetta
ID: 46494
Subject: re: fires

AnneS said:


Happy Potter said:
Bunkers would be good, and I read in the comments pages of a formula ‘ 30/30/30 that was followed in the forrested areas in case of a fire ,30 klm winds plus 30 C temp plus the fire front 30 klms away= evacuate. How did this get forgotten about over time, I wonder.


My daughter is a town planner for NSW RFS…(except she’s on maternity leave at present). She and I were discussing this very thing the other day and she mentioned that what people must remember is that oxygen is the first thing to go in a fire like that and the bunkers would have to be very carefully constructed to make sure that the air couldn’t be sucked out by the fire raging through.

Also regarding the complaints that people weren’t given early enough advice on whether to go…she said that although there are certain aspects of fire behaviour that are predictable, by and large it is unpredicable. Her honours thesis was on the loss of home as a result of natural disasters and in particular from bushfires.

Well said, AnneS

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Date: 10/02/2009 11:37:38
From: bubba louie
ID: 46495
Subject: re: fires

Dinetta said:


AnneS said:

Happy Potter said:
Bunkers would be good, and I read in the comments pages of a formula ‘ 30/30/30 that was followed in the forrested areas in case of a fire ,30 klm winds plus 30 C temp plus the fire front 30 klms away= evacuate. How did this get forgotten about over time, I wonder.


My daughter is a town planner for NSW RFS…(except she’s on maternity leave at present). She and I were discussing this very thing the other day and she mentioned that what people must remember is that oxygen is the first thing to go in a fire like that and the bunkers would have to be very carefully constructed to make sure that the air couldn’t be sucked out by the fire raging through.

Also regarding the complaints that people weren’t given early enough advice on whether to go…she said that although there are certain aspects of fire behaviour that are predictable, by and large it is unpredicable. Her honours thesis was on the loss of home as a result of natural disasters and in particular from bushfires.

Well said, AnneS

There’s a fire bunker thread going on over on SSSF.

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Date: 10/02/2009 11:40:59
From: Dinetta
ID: 46496
Subject: re: fires

Thanks BG, I have Nat and Sam ready to boot out of the door if the need arises…..its a very stressful and emotional time, I thought it was bad when Geelong lost the Flag :-)
+++

grin

This AFL-is-our-reason-for-living…it’s amazing…we’ve had some very good friends who were from Victoria and every single member supported a different team…to say they were passionate is an understatement…then I met some Kiwis at a Rugby Union Bar-B-Q….

Gee Whiz Rook, I hope nothing happens to you and your family with the fires…

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Date: 10/02/2009 11:48:13
From: bluegreen
ID: 46497
Subject: re: fires

AnneS said:


Also regarding the complaints that people weren’t given early enough advice on whether to go…she said that although there are certain aspects of fire behaviour that are predictable, by and large it is unpredicable.

my understanding in the case of the Kinglake fire, is that it happened so quick not even the firies had any warning, let alone have time to warn the residents.

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Date: 10/02/2009 11:54:14
From: AnneS
ID: 46498
Subject: re: fires

bluegreen said:


AnneS said:

Also regarding the complaints that people weren’t given early enough advice on whether to go…she said that although there are certain aspects of fire behaviour that are predictable, by and large it is unpredicable.

my understanding in the case of the Kinglake fire, is that it happened so quick not even the firies had any warning, let alone have time to warn the residents.


Exactly…it’s just that in our shock we are all looking for answers and the natural tendancy is to want to blame someone, no matter how unjustified that is

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Date: 10/02/2009 11:55:16
From: bluegreen
ID: 46499
Subject: re: fires

my daughter designed a T-shirt in honour of the firies – proceeds of sales go to Red Cross Bushfire Appeal

Hero

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Date: 10/02/2009 12:01:38
From: Dinetta
ID: 46500
Subject: re: fires

Got there in the end…need only click on the Hero link…

:)

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Date: 10/02/2009 12:03:02
From: Happy Potter
ID: 46501
Subject: re: fires

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/02/10/2487065.htm
This is the journo fellow and his wife who stayed on the burnt out patch of ground near their driveway and survived, how terrified they were.

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Date: 10/02/2009 12:03:17
From: Dinetta
ID: 46502
Subject: re: fires

I felt guilty going to the supermarket to buy meat for tea..like what am I doing spending money when people have lost everything.
+++++++

Same here…

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Date: 10/02/2009 12:16:12
From: AnneS
ID: 46503
Subject: re: fires

Happy Potter said:


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/02/10/2487065.htm
This is the journo fellow and his wife who stayed on the burnt out patch of ground near their driveway and survived, how terrified they were.

I saw them interviewd last night. How lucky were they?

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Date: 10/02/2009 12:17:07
From: AnneS
ID: 46504
Subject: re: fires

bubba louie said:


Dinetta said:

AnneS said:

Happy Potter said:
Bunkers would be good, and I read in the comments pages of a formula ‘ 30/30/30 that was followed in the forrested areas in case of a fire ,30 klm winds plus 30 C temp plus the fire front 30 klms away= evacuate. How did this get forgotten about over time, I wonder.


My daughter is a town planner for NSW RFS…(except she’s on maternity leave at present). She and I were discussing this very thing the other day and she mentioned that what people must remember is that oxygen is the first thing to go in a fire like that and the bunkers would have to be very carefully constructed to make sure that the air couldn’t be sucked out by the fire raging through.

Also regarding the complaints that people weren’t given early enough advice on whether to go…she said that although there are certain aspects of fire behaviour that are predictable, by and large it is unpredicable. Her honours thesis was on the loss of home as a result of natural disasters and in particular from bushfires.

Well said, AnneS

There’s a fire bunker thread going on over on SSSF.

Do you have a link bubba?

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Date: 10/02/2009 12:19:28
From: bubba louie
ID: 46505
Subject: re: fires

AnneS said:


bubba louie said:

Dinetta said:

AnneS said:

Happy Potter said:
Bunkers would be good, and I read in the comments pages of a formula ‘ 30/30/30 that was followed in the forrested areas in case of a fire ,30 klm winds plus 30 C temp plus the fire front 30 klms away= evacuate. How did this get forgotten about over time, I wonder.


My daughter is a town planner for NSW RFS…(except she’s on maternity leave at present). She and I were discussing this very thing the other day and she mentioned that what people must remember is that oxygen is the first thing to go in a fire like that and the bunkers would have to be very carefully constructed to make sure that the air couldn’t be sucked out by the fire raging through.

Also regarding the complaints that people weren’t given early enough advice on whether to go…she said that although there are certain aspects of fire behaviour that are predictable, by and large it is unpredicable. Her honours thesis was on the loss of home as a result of natural disasters and in particular from bushfires.

Well said, AnneS

There’s a fire bunker thread going on over on SSSF.

Do you have a link bubba?

http://www2b.abc.net.au/science/k2/stn/newposts/4023/topic4023176.shtm

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Date: 10/02/2009 12:22:00
From: AnneS
ID: 46506
Subject: re: fires

bubba louie said:


AnneS said:

bubba louie said:

Dinetta said:

AnneS said:

Happy Potter said:
Bunkers would be good, and I read in the comments pages of a formula ‘ 30/30/30 that was followed in the forrested areas in case of a fire ,30 klm winds plus 30 C temp plus the fire front 30 klms away= evacuate. How did this get forgotten about over time, I wonder.


My daughter is a town planner for NSW RFS…(except she’s on maternity leave at present). She and I were discussing this very thing the other day and she mentioned that what people must remember is that oxygen is the first thing to go in a fire like that and the bunkers would have to be very carefully constructed to make sure that the air couldn’t be sucked out by the fire raging through.

Also regarding the complaints that people weren’t given early enough advice on whether to go…she said that although there are certain aspects of fire behaviour that are predictable, by and large it is unpredicable. Her honours thesis was on the loss of home as a result of natural disasters and in particular from bushfires.

Well said, AnneS

There’s a fire bunker thread going on over on SSSF.

Do you have a link bubba?

http://www2b.abc.net.au/science/k2/stn/newposts/4023/topic4023176.shtm

Thanks…will check it out

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Date: 10/02/2009 12:23:32
From: bubba louie
ID: 46507
Subject: re: fires

AnneS said:


bubba louie said:

AnneS said:

bubba louie said:

Dinetta said:

AnneS said:

Happy Potter said:
Bunkers would be good, and I read in the comments pages of a formula ‘ 30/30/30 that was followed in the forrested areas in case of a fire ,30 klm winds plus 30 C temp plus the fire front 30 klms away= evacuate. How did this get forgotten about over time, I wonder.


My daughter is a town planner for NSW RFS…(except she’s on maternity leave at present). She and I were discussing this very thing the other day and she mentioned that what people must remember is that oxygen is the first thing to go in a fire like that and the bunkers would have to be very carefully constructed to make sure that the air couldn’t be sucked out by the fire raging through.

Also regarding the complaints that people weren’t given early enough advice on whether to go…she said that although there are certain aspects of fire behaviour that are predictable, by and large it is unpredicable. Her honours thesis was on the loss of home as a result of natural disasters and in particular from bushfires.

Well said, AnneS

There’s a fire bunker thread going on over on SSSF.

Do you have a link bubba?

http://www2b.abc.net.au/science/k2/stn/newposts/4023/topic4023176.shtm

Thanks…will check it out

Or you can watch multiple forums at once.

http://chrw.customer.netspace.net.au/hf/stsgd.html

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Date: 10/02/2009 12:45:39
From: pepe
ID: 46509
Subject: re: fires

afternoon all.
summer’s not over altho’ it feels like something has ended.
forest fires – eek! – someone said they get to 300C.

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Date: 10/02/2009 12:45:47
From: AnneS
ID: 46510
Subject: re: fires

bubba louie said:


AnneS said:

bubba louie said:

AnneS said:

bubba louie said:

Dinetta said:

AnneS said:

Happy Potter said:
Bunkers would be good, and I read in the comments pages of a formula ‘ 30/30/30 that was followed in the forrested areas in case of a fire ,30 klm winds plus 30 C temp plus the fire front 30 klms away= evacuate. How did this get forgotten about over time, I wonder.


My daughter is a town planner for NSW RFS…(except she’s on maternity leave at present). She and I were discussing this very thing the other day and she mentioned that what people must remember is that oxygen is the first thing to go in a fire like that and the bunkers would have to be very carefully constructed to make sure that the air couldn’t be sucked out by the fire raging through.

Also regarding the complaints that people weren’t given early enough advice on whether to go…she said that although there are certain aspects of fire behaviour that are predictable, by and large it is unpredicable. Her honours thesis was on the loss of home as a result of natural disasters and in particular from bushfires.

Well said, AnneS

There’s a fire bunker thread going on over on SSSF.

Do you have a link bubba?

http://www2b.abc.net.au/science/k2/stn/newposts/4023/topic4023176.shtm

Thanks…will check it out

Or you can watch multiple forums at once.

http://chrw.customer.netspace.net.au/hf/stsgd.html

I actually think I’d better get on with a few jobs….housework..yuk….etc

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Date: 10/02/2009 17:54:27
From: pomolo
ID: 46522
Subject: re: fires

Rook said:


Boy its been the worst 3 days of my life, we have been on high alert twice so far but things are looking good today. Cars are packed and ready to go. 3 mates have lost their homes so far but thankfully no lives have been lost. Lets hope they catch these Bastards and make examples of them.

Rook

Please stay safe Rook and family. Thinking of you.

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Date: 10/02/2009 18:06:40
From: pomolo
ID: 46523
Subject: re: fires

bluegreen said:


my daughter designed a T-shirt in honour of the firies – proceeds of sales go to Red Cross Bushfire Appeal

Hero

That’s first class BG. Congratulate her for me.

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Date: 10/02/2009 20:27:59
From: Bubba Louie
ID: 46538
Subject: re: fires

One of the guys on SSSF still hasn’t checked in. :(

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Date: 12/02/2009 08:22:15
From: Rook
ID: 46690
Subject: re: fires

My 3 month pregnant sister found out her Best friend and husband died in the fires at Kinglake and then to top it off she had to be evacuated from the Mansfield fires yesterday arvo, she is a real mess at the moment, i just hope the bub will be okay and nothing bad happens

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Date: 12/02/2009 09:00:45
From: bluegreen
ID: 46691
Subject: re: fires

Rook said:


My 3 month pregnant sister found out her Best friend and husband died in the fires at Kinglake and then to top it off she had to be evacuated from the Mansfield fires yesterday arvo, she is a real mess at the moment, i just hope the bub will be okay and nothing bad happens

that’s so sad Rook. and it is not over yet :(

hope your sister and the bub will be OK.

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Date: 12/02/2009 09:02:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 46692
Subject: re: fires

This just gets worse and worse as it unfolds.

Hope you and your family support her well Rook.

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Date: 12/02/2009 09:21:42
From: AnneS
ID: 46696
Subject: re: fires

Rook said:


My 3 month pregnant sister found out her Best friend and husband died in the fires at Kinglake and then to top it off she had to be evacuated from the Mansfield fires yesterday arvo, she is a real mess at the moment, i just hope the bub will be okay and nothing bad happens

Oh Rook..that is sad. There are going to be very few people in this country who aren’t touched in some way by this tragedy…one of my cousins used to be a nurse in Melb and a few of her friends and former colleagues have perished…they were from Kinglake

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Date: 12/02/2009 09:30:57
From: pepe
ID: 46703
Subject: re: fires

Rook said:


My 3 month pregnant sister found out her Best friend and husband died in the fires at Kinglake and then to top it off she had to be evacuated from the Mansfield fires yesterday arvo, she is a real mess at the moment, i just hope the bub will be okay and nothing bad happens

i wish your sister all the best rook.
its like a war zone at present, but all of australia is trying to help.
is tallarook still threatened?

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Date: 12/02/2009 09:37:09
From: pomolo
ID: 46705
Subject: re: fires

bluegreen said:


Rook said:

My 3 month pregnant sister found out her Best friend and husband died in the fires at Kinglake and then to top it off she had to be evacuated from the Mansfield fires yesterday arvo, she is a real mess at the moment, i just hope the bub will be okay and nothing bad happens

that’s so sad Rook. and it is not over yet :(

hope your sister and the bub will be OK.

Ditto from me.

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Date: 12/02/2009 09:38:29
From: Rook
ID: 46706
Subject: re: fires

pepe said:


Rook said:

My 3 month pregnant sister found out her Best friend and husband died in the fires at Kinglake and then to top it off she had to be evacuated from the Mansfield fires yesterday arvo, she is a real mess at the moment, i just hope the bub will be okay and nothing bad happens

i wish your sister all the best rook.
its like a war zone at present, but all of australia is trying to help.
is tallarook still threatened?

Thanks everyone for your thoughts.

We were put on a minor alert last night, but the wind would have to swing drastically for us to be in any real danger, but the way the wind is anything could happen.

We’re taking the gamble tonight and staying in Melbourne as it was Nats birthday on Saturday and we had to cancel dinner. So hopefully she can finally enjoy herself

I drove home through Wandong and Broadford last night, its just devastating. Burn’t houses and so many dead Roo’s.

Once again thanks everyone, i’m the lucky one

Mark

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Date: 12/02/2009 09:43:31
From: BatZ
ID: 46708
Subject: re: fires

Your poor Sis….make sure she talks to someone though and doesn’t bottle up feelings .

Just absolutely horrible what’s been happening =o[

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Date: 12/02/2009 09:47:45
From: pomolo
ID: 46709
Subject: re: fires

BatZ said:


Your poor Sis….make sure she talks to someone though and doesn’t bottle up feelings .

Just absolutely horrible what’s been happening =o[

I can’t think of anthing else to say about the fires. The whole business has shocked the nation and the world in places. There are no more words to express our feelings. We don’t have a word in our language that expresses our feelings enough.

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Date: 12/02/2009 09:49:58
From: BatZ
ID: 46712
Subject: re: fires

pomolo said:


BatZ said:

Your poor Sis….make sure she talks to someone though and doesn’t bottle up feelings .

Just absolutely horrible what’s been happening =o[

I can’t think of anthing else to say about the fires. The whole business has shocked the nation and the world in places. There are no more words to express our feelings. We don’t have a word in our language that expresses our feelings enough.

Yes, I’d agree with that sentiment pomolo.

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Date: 12/02/2009 09:59:39
From: Lucky1
ID: 46716
Subject: re: fires

Rook said:


My 3 month pregnant sister found out her Best friend and husband died in the fires at Kinglake and then to top it off she had to be evacuated from the Mansfield fires yesterday arvo, she is a real mess at the moment, i just hope the bub will be okay and nothing bad happens

Oh Rook…… special hugs being sent to your sister. Hope she and bub are okay and stay safe.

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Date: 12/02/2009 10:09:18
From: Lucky1
ID: 46719
Subject: re: fires

BatZ said:


pomolo said:

BatZ said:

Your poor Sis….make sure she talks to someone though and doesn’t bottle up feelings .

Just absolutely horrible what’s been happening =o[

I can’t think of anthing else to say about the fires. The whole business has shocked the nation and the world in places. There are no more words to express our feelings. We don’t have a word in our language that expresses our feelings enough.

Yes, I’d agree with that sentiment pomolo.

I’m feeling numb from all the news reports.

All I keep thinking is…….. how will they be months down the track? Will some snap and take their own lives….so then the fires are still taking lives……. I SO hope not.

I actually feel so guilty that I am going to bed with a full tummy of food, cooked in my kitchen and having sat down and done some knitting or cross stitch watching my fav TV show. While they have nothing.

So for the up coming pensions, we’ll be popping some money into the banks that are collecting $$$ for them. That way, we’ll actually be giving more than what we would have in just 1 donation.

I can’t cope with the faces we are now seeing of people who have lost their life. It makes it so real in my own safe life. This makes me feel guilty too, that we are safe.

People are saying…when they catch the arsonist….. take them round and show them what they did to the state…….I have visions of this person… getting his rocks off from what he/she did rather than remorse.

Anyway that is how I am feeling this morning.

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Date: 12/02/2009 10:20:08
From: BatZ
ID: 46720
Subject: re: fires

Lucky1 said:


BatZ said:

pomolo said:

BatZ said:

Your poor Sis….make sure she talks to someone though and doesn’t bottle up feelings .

Just absolutely horrible what’s been happening =o…it would be a scary place. I don’t even know how they could get any excitement from causing mayhem and murder =o[ If they do manage to catch whomever is responsible, I hope they get the book thrown at them and the key taken away and left to rot in prison for the term of their natural life!

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Date: 12/02/2009 10:24:43
From: bluegreen
ID: 46721
Subject: re: fires

time for some good news out of all this…

Sam the Koala

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Date: 12/02/2009 10:29:29
From: BatZ
ID: 46722
Subject: re: fires

bluegreen said:


time for some good news out of all this…

Sam the Koala

Sam was so cute…putting his little paw on the firies arm as he drank.

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Date: 12/02/2009 10:30:05
From: Rook
ID: 46723
Subject: re: fires

bluegreen said:


time for some good news out of all this…

Sam the Koala

This Koala is going to be a Legend :-) and your right BG, it puts a smile on everyones face, even mine and i’m full of so much anger at the moment

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Date: 12/02/2009 10:32:41
From: bluegreen
ID: 46725
Subject: re: fires

BatZ said:


bluegreen said:

time for some good news out of all this…

Sam the Koala

Sam was so cute…putting his little paw on the firies arm as he drank.

in times like these it seems they sense when we are trying to help, even when it comes to treating painful injuries…

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Date: 12/02/2009 10:33:17
From: Lucky1
ID: 46726
Subject: re: fires

bluegreen said:


time for some good news out of all this…

Sam the Koala

Oh that is just such a powerful story and a good feeling one too :D

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Date: 12/02/2009 10:33:30
From: bluegreen
ID: 46727
Subject: re: fires

Rook said:


bluegreen said:

time for some good news out of all this…

Sam the Koala

This Koala is going to be a Legend :-) and your right BG, it puts a smile on everyones face, even mine and i’m full of so much anger at the moment

yes, it helps to have an “icon” of hope.

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Date: 12/02/2009 10:36:33
From: Lucky1
ID: 46729
Subject: re: fires

bluegreen said:


Rook said:

bluegreen said:

time for some good news out of all this…

Sam the Koala

This Koala is going to be a Legend :-) and your right BG, it puts a smile on everyones face, even mine and i’m full of so much anger at the moment

yes, it helps to have an “icon” of hope.


Just amazing how they are coming out after the fire has passed. Though over 1 million fauna animals has been quoted as lost in the flames.

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Date: 12/02/2009 10:38:33
From: Lucky1
ID: 46731
Subject: re: fires

Oh Lord……..

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Date: 12/02/2009 10:41:52
From: BatZ
ID: 46734
Subject: re: fires

Lucky1 said:


Oh Lord……..

Surely tough after a good rain…most of the trees should start sprouting again??!! A lot of dormant seeds will also have the chance to germinate and grow too with no canopy shading them.

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Date: 12/02/2009 11:18:34
From: orchid40
ID: 46751
Subject: re: fires

bluegreen said:


Rook said:

bluegreen said:

time for some good news out of all this…

Sam the Koala

This Koala is going to be a Legend :-) and your right BG, it puts a smile on everyones face, even mine and i’m full of so much anger at the moment

yes, it helps to have an “icon” of hope.

Thanks so much for showing us this BG. We certainly need some positive news.

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Date: 12/02/2009 11:44:47
From: bon008
ID: 46760
Subject: re: fires

Rook said:


bluegreen said:

time for some good news out of all this…

Sam the Koala

This Koala is going to be a Legend :-) and your right BG, it puts a smile on everyones face, even mine and i’m full of so much anger at the moment

Makes me wish I was closer.. the one thing I could do to help, is look after animals. We have sent some money through to Vic RSPCA though. Wish I could give blood, but I don’t feel right doing it when I’m still sick and not really diagnosed..

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Date: 12/02/2009 12:44:52
From: bubba louie
ID: 46770
Subject: re: fires

BatZ said:


Lucky1 said:

BatZ said:

pomolo said:

BatZ said:

Your poor Sis….make sure she talks to someone though and doesn’t bottle up feelings .

Just absolutely horrible what’s been happening =o…it would be a scary place. I don’t even know how they could get any excitement from causing mayhem and murder =o[ If they do manage to catch whomever is responsible, I hope they get the book thrown at them and the key taken away and left to rot in prison for the term of their natural life!

I’ve heard they’re asking for money now not supplies. They’ve been overwhelmed and storage space is becoming a problem.

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Date: 12/02/2009 13:22:51
From: bluegreen
ID: 46773
Subject: re: fires

bubba louie said:

I’ve heard they’re asking for money now not supplies. They’ve been overwhelmed and storage space is becoming a problem.

money is the most efficient way of helping as things can be bought direct, where goods have to be sorted and stored and distributed which takes time. On the radio all the insurance companies are offering immediate initial payouts and vouchers even before the damage is being assessed to help people through.

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Date: 12/02/2009 13:30:27
From: bluegreen
ID: 46774
Subject: re: fires

2 arrested over Victorian bushfires

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Date: 12/02/2009 13:36:09
From: Happy Potter
ID: 46775
Subject: re: fires

It’s heartening to see the whole nation offering aid and supplies, eg; SA farmers donating tons of feed for stock when they are doing it so tough themselves. Other states too.
We sure come together as a nation when we are hurt. :D

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Date: 14/02/2009 12:36:48
From: Lucky1
ID: 46900
Subject: re: fires

This stinks….what a kick in the guts for them

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,27574,25051719-2862,00.html

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Date: 14/02/2009 12:38:22
From: Lucky1
ID: 46901
Subject: re: fires

Lucky1 said:


This stinks….what a kick in the guts for them

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,27574,25051719-2862,00.html

Bluddy hell….

Herald sun…is running a story about bush fire fighters being phone while out fighting the fires and being sacked over the phone……

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Date: 14/02/2009 12:45:00
From: bluegreen
ID: 46902
Subject: re: fires

Lucky1 said:


Lucky1 said:

This stinks….what a kick in the guts for them

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,27574,25051719-2862,00.html

Bluddy hell….

Herald sun…is running a story about bush fire fighters being phone while out fighting the fires and being sacked over the phone……

looks like they were part of a stand down of workers, not because they were absent fighting fires. Hell of a way to find out though.

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Date: 14/02/2009 12:48:38
From: Lucky1
ID: 46904
Subject: re: fires

bluegreen said:


Lucky1 said:

Lucky1 said:

This stinks….what a kick in the guts for them

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,27574,25051719-2862,00.html

Bluddy hell….

Herald sun…is running a story about bush fire fighters being phone while out fighting the fires and being sacked over the phone……

looks like they were part of a stand down of workers, not because they were absent fighting fires. Hell of a way to find out though.


Yes…… should have put that bit in…but it was in the article.

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Date: 14/02/2009 12:54:52
From: veg gardener
ID: 46905
Subject: re: fires

Lucky1 said:


bluegreen said:

Lucky1 said:

Lucky1 said:

This stinks….what a kick in the guts for them

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,27574,25051719-2862,00.html

Bluddy hell….

Herald sun…is running a story about bush fire fighters being phone while out fighting the fires and being sacked over the phone……

looks like they were part of a stand down of workers, not because they were absent fighting fires. Hell of a way to find out though.


Yes…… should have put that bit in…but it was in the article.

link doesn’t work for me.

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Date: 14/02/2009 12:56:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 46906
Subject: re: fires

veg gardener said:


Lucky1 said:

bluegreen said:

Lucky1 said:

Lucky1 said:

This stinks….what a kick in the guts for them

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,27574,25051719-2862,00.html

Bluddy hell….

Herald sun…is running a story about bush fire fighters being phone while out fighting the fires and being sacked over the phone……

looks like they were part of a stand down of workers, not because they were absent fighting fires. Hell of a way to find out though.


Yes…… should have put that bit in…but it was in the article.

link doesn’t work for me.

link broken for me too.

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Date: 14/02/2009 13:20:21
From: bluegreen
ID: 46907
Subject: re: fires

roughbarked said:


veg gardener said:

Lucky1 said:

bluegreen said:

Lucky1 said:

Lucky1 said:

This stinks….what a kick in the guts for them

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,27574,25051719-2862,00.html

Bluddy hell….

Herald sun…is running a story about bush fire fighters being phone while out fighting the fires and being sacked over the phone……

looks like they were part of a stand down of workers, not because they were absent fighting fires. Hell of a way to find out though.


Yes…… should have put that bit in…but it was in the article.

link doesn’t work for me.

link broken for me too.

I find the herald sun links don’t work here

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Date: 14/02/2009 13:23:56
From: bluegreen
ID: 46908
Subject: re: fires

wonder if this will work

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Date: 14/02/2009 13:23:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 46909
Subject: re: fires

bluegreen said:


roughbarked said:

veg gardener said:

Lucky1 said:

bluegreen said:

Lucky1 said:

Lucky1 said:

This stinks….what a kick in the guts for them

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,27574,25051719-2862,00.html

Bluddy hell….

Herald sun…is running a story about bush fire fighters being phone while out fighting the fires and being sacked over the phone……

looks like they were part of a stand down of workers, not because they were absent fighting fires. Hell of a way to find out though.


Yes…… should have put that bit in…but it was in the article.

link doesn’t work for me.

link broken for me too.

I find the herald sun links don’t work here

try this link then http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25050864-5005961,00.html

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Date: 14/02/2009 13:42:14
From: veg gardener
ID: 46910
Subject: re: fires

bg the last one you posted worked for me.

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