Date: 20/06/2017 19:24:49
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1080975
Subject: What is Space?

What is Space?

Could space be a sea of waves?

If space is nothing how can things move through nothing?

If space is something then what is it?

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Date: 20/06/2017 19:26:40
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1080977
Subject: re: What is Space?

https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/?main=https%3A//tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/8807/

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Date: 20/06/2017 19:34:09
From: transition
ID: 1080988
Subject: re: What is Space?

space is an area (volume) that makes things possible, including nothing, or very little.

it’s where possibilities exist, or might venture. Like this white rectangle i’m typing into.

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Date: 20/06/2017 19:37:54
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1080993
Subject: re: What is Space?

It’s the final frontier.

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Date: 20/06/2017 19:39:14
From: transition
ID: 1080998
Subject: re: What is Space?

Peak Warming Man said:


It’s the final frontier.

reminded me there’s a star trek movie on tonight I haven’t seen

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Date: 20/06/2017 19:49:55
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1081013
Subject: re: What is Space?

Good question :)

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Date: 20/06/2017 21:31:13
From: Ian
ID: 1081055
Subject: re: What is Space?

You’ll know all about it… when you run out of it

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Date: 21/06/2017 15:00:29
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1081194
Subject: re: What is Space?

Tau.Neutrino said:


What is Space?

Could space be a sea of waves?

If space is nothing how can things move through nothing?

If space is something then what is it?

Yes, as Crispin said, we’ve covered this before.

As for waves – the Copenhagen interpretation of QM says that all of space-time is filled with probability waves. Probability waves contain no mass or energy.

If space isn’t nothing, then how can anything move through it without drag?

There’s no drag.

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Date: 21/06/2017 15:02:06
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1081195
Subject: re: What is Space?

More on “sea of waves”.

QM tells us that every wave is a particle and vice versa.

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Date: 21/06/2017 15:05:50
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1081196
Subject: re: What is Space?

mollwollfumble said:


If space isn’t nothing, then how can anything move through it without drag?

There’s no drag.

If matter is standing waves in whatever space is, then matter would move through space without drag in the same way that electro-magnetic waves move through space without drag.

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Date: 21/06/2017 15:07:13
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1081197
Subject: re: What is Space?

mollwollfumble said:

As for waves – the Copenhagen interpretation of QM says that all of space-time is filled with probability waves. Probability waves contain no mass or energy.

If space is nothing, how can it have a probability wave?

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Date: 21/06/2017 15:30:47
From: transition
ID: 1081203
Subject: re: What is Space?

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

As for waves – the Copenhagen interpretation of QM says that all of space-time is filled with probability waves. Probability waves contain no mass or energy.

If space is nothing, how can it have a probability wave?

You ever noticed that the slice of reality you occupy at any moment is made from mostly the past (which doesn’t exist anymore), and a future that doesn’t exist yet (the possibility of a future).

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Date: 21/06/2017 16:04:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1081207
Subject: re: What is Space?

Does anyone here actually claim that space is “nothing”?

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Date: 21/06/2017 16:09:17
From: transition
ID: 1081208
Subject: re: What is Space?

Bubblecar said:


Does anyone here actually claim that space is “nothing”?

a few are hunting it, wanting to interrogate it, not happy that a nothing between other things can have a function.

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Date: 21/06/2017 16:14:30
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1081210
Subject: re: What is Space?

Bubblecar said:


Does anyone here actually claim that space is “nothing”?

Lots of people do, here and elsewhere.

Or at least they seem to.

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Date: 21/06/2017 16:24:13
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1081211
Subject: re: What is Space?

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

Does anyone here actually claim that space is “nothing”?

Lots of people do, here and elsewhere.

Or at least they seem to.

Tell them they’re dreaming.

There’s no such thing as nothing, but there is such a thing as space.

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Date: 21/06/2017 20:14:51
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1081294
Subject: re: What is Space?

Bubblecar said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Does anyone here actually claim that space is “nothing”?

Lots of people do, here and elsewhere.

Or at least they seem to.

Tell them they’re dreaming.

There’s no such thing as nothing, but there is such a thing as space.

I’m not happy with our current understanding of space. Looking around for a list of properties of space turned up rather disappointing results.

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Date: 22/06/2017 22:07:52
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1081885
Subject: re: What is Space?

transition said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

As for waves – the Copenhagen interpretation of QM says that all of space-time is filled with probability waves. Probability waves contain no mass or energy.

If space is nothing, how can it have a probability wave?

You ever noticed that the slice of reality you occupy at any moment is made from mostly the past (which doesn’t exist anymore), and a future that doesn’t exist yet (the possibility of a future).

No. I’ve noticed the exact opposite, that whereas the past and future can be said to exist, the present does not. It is very difficult for me to write in the present tense because even before I’ve finished writing a word it’s in the past. Everything that I write about is either the past or the future, never the present.

To add to that. In relativity, events that appear to be in the future for my right hand for instance can be in the past according to my right eye. Because right eye and right hand are different frames of reference. To put it another way, any event that is in the present for my hand will never be in the present for my eye, or for any other person.

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Date: 22/06/2017 22:11:29
From: transition
ID: 1081886
Subject: re: What is Space?

>….. the present does not

yes, I was pointing to that

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