Date: 4/07/2017 18:14:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1086268
Subject: Secret of Roman Concrete: Tobermorite & Phillipsite

Why Roman concrete still stands strong while modern version decays.

Their structures are still standing more than 1,500 years after the last centurion snuffed it: now the Romans’ secret of durable marine concrete has finally been cracked.

The Roman recipe – a mix of volcanic ash, lime (calcium oxide), seawater and lumps of volcanic rock – held together piers, breakwaters and harbours. Moreover, in contrast to modern materials, the ancient water-based structures became stronger over time.

Scientists say this is the result of seawater reacting with the volcanic material in the cement and creating new minerals that reinforced the concrete.

As the authors note, the Romans were aware of the virtues of their concrete, with Pliny the Elder waxing lyrical in his Natural History that it is “impregnable to the waves and every day stronger”.

Now, they say, they’ve worked out why. Writing in the journal American Mineralogist, Jackson and colleagues describe how they analysed concrete cores from Roman piers, breakwaters and harbours.

Previous work had revealed lime particles within the cores that surprisingly contained the mineral aluminous tobermorite – a rare substance that is hard to make.

The mineral, said Jackson, formed early in the history of the concrete, as the lime, seawater and volcanic ash of the mortar reacted together in a way that generated heat.

But now Jackson and the team have made another discovery. “I went back to the concrete and found abundant tobermorite growing through the fabric of the concrete, often in association with phillipsite ,” she said.

She said this revealed another process that was also at play. Over time, seawater that seeped through the concrete dissolved the volcanic crystals and glasses, with aluminous tobermorite and phillipsite crystallising in their place.

These minerals, say the authors, helped to reinforce the concrete, preventing cracks from growing, with structures becoming stronger over time as the minerals grew.

By contrast, modern concrete, based on Portland cement, is not supposed to change after it hardens – meaning any reactions with the material cause damage.

Jackson said: “I think opens up a completely new perspective for how concrete can be made – that what we consider corrosion processes can actually produce extremely beneficial mineral cement and lead to continued resilience, in fact, enhanced perhaps resilience over time.”

Full: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jul/04/why-roman-concrete-still-stands-strong-while-modern-version-decays

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Date: 4/07/2017 18:29:13
From: Michael V
ID: 1086274
Subject: re: Secret of Roman Concrete: Tobermorite & Phillipsite

TOBERMORITE GEL—THE HEART OF CONCRETE
STEPHEN BRUNAUER
American Scientist
Vol. 50, No. 1, FRONTIERS OF ZEALOUS RESEARCH (MARCH 1962), pp. 210-229

https://www.jstor.org/stable/27838347?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Phillipsite is a zeolite formed by the devitrification of volcanic glass. I would expect other zeolites too, such as natrolite and stilbite.

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Date: 4/07/2017 18:35:40
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1086280
Subject: re: Secret of Roman Concrete: Tobermorite & Phillipsite

Hadrian’s wall is looking pretty ordinary.

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Date: 4/07/2017 18:38:56
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1086283
Subject: re: Secret of Roman Concrete: Tobermorite & Phillipsite

Peak Warming Man said:


Hadrian’s wall is looking pretty ordinary.

pommie bricklayers as opposed to Italian grano workers…

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Date: 4/07/2017 18:48:32
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1086289
Subject: re: Secret of Roman Concrete: Tobermorite & Phillipsite

Wasn’t the art of making concrete lost for hundreds of years and then rediscovered?

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Date: 4/07/2017 18:51:19
From: party_pants
ID: 1086290
Subject: re: Secret of Roman Concrete: Tobermorite & Phillipsite

Peak Warming Man said:


Wasn’t the art of making concrete lost for hundreds of years and then rediscovered?

Yes, the Egyptians started it with the pyramids.

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Date: 4/07/2017 19:04:45
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1086291
Subject: re: Secret of Roman Concrete: Tobermorite & Phillipsite

Fascinating

Gets stronger over time with interaction with seawater creating new minerals within the concrete

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Date: 5/07/2017 09:34:00
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1086412
Subject: re: Secret of Roman Concrete: Tobermorite & Phillipsite

Sigh.

All concrete gets stronger over time.

The reasons some modern concrete deteriorates comparatively quickly are:
1) It contains steel
2) Some aggregates result in reactions that cause expansion and cracking, or other deterioration mechanisms.

But most modern concrete would last for a very long time, if placed without steel.

OTOH, most modern concrete structures would not work without steel, that’s why they put it in there.

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