A few months ago an invitation foir Richard Dawkins to speak at the North East Conference on Science and Skepticism was withdrawn after Dawkins re-tweeted a satirical song / video clip that compared aspects of Islam and third wave feminism.

A similar thing has happened again.

“ Subject: Notification for Richard Dawkins: Science in the Soul: Selected Writings of a Passionate Rationalist

“ Dear Richard Dawkins event ticket buyers,

“ We regret to inform you that KPFA has canceled our event with Richard Dawkins. We had booked this event based entirely on his excellent new book on science, when we didn’t know he had offended and hurt – in his tweets and other comments on Islam, so many people. KPFA does not endorse hurtful speech. While KPFA emphatically supports serious free speech, we do not support abusive speech. We apologize for not having had broader knowledge of Dawkins views much earlier. We also apologize to all those inconvenienced by this cancellation. Your ticket purchases will automatically be refunded by Brown Paper Tickets.

“ Sincerely,

“ KPFA Radio 94.1 FM”

Dawkins reply (in part):

“ My memory of KPFA is that you were unusually scrupulous about fact-checking. I especially admired your habit of always quoting sources. You conspicuously did not quote a source when accusing me of “abusive speech”. Why didn’t you check your facts – or at least have the common courtesy to alert me – before summarily cancelling my event? If you had consulted me, or if you had done even rudimentary fact-checking, you would have concluded that I have never used abusive speech against Islam. I have called IslamISM “vile” but surely you, of all people, understand that Islamism is not the same as Islam. I have criticised the ridiculous pseudoscientific claims made by Islamic apologists (“the sun sets in a marsh” etc), and the opposition of Islamic “ scholars” to evolution and other scientific truths. I have criticised the appalling misogyny and homophobia of Islam, I have criticised the murdering of apostates for no crime other than their disbelief. Far from attacking Muslims, I understand – as perhaps you do not – that Muslims themselves are the prime victims of the oppressive cruelties of Islamism, especially Muslim women.

“I am known as a frequent critic of Christianity and have never been de-platformed for that. Why do you give Islam a free pass? Why is it fine to criticise Christianity but not Islam? “

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/newsroom/dawkins_berkeley/

esselte said:

A few months ago an invitation foir Richard Dawkins to speak at the North East Conference on Science and Skepticism was withdrawn after Dawkins re-tweeted a satirical song / video clip that compared aspects of Islam and third wave feminism.

A similar thing has happened again.

“ Subject: Notification for Richard Dawkins: Science in the Soul: Selected Writings of a Passionate Rationalist

“ Dear Richard Dawkins event ticket buyers,

“ We regret to inform you that KPFA has canceled our event with Richard Dawkins. We had booked this event based entirely on his excellent new book on science, when we didn’t know he had offended and hurt – in his tweets and other comments on Islam, so many people. KPFA does not endorse hurtful speech. While KPFA emphatically supports serious free speech, we do not support abusive speech. We apologize for not having had broader knowledge of Dawkins views much earlier. We also apologize to all those inconvenienced by this cancellation. Your ticket purchases will automatically be refunded by Brown Paper Tickets.

“ Sincerely,

“ KPFA Radio 94.1 FM”

Dawkins reply (in part):

“ My memory of KPFA is that you were unusually scrupulous about fact-checking. I especially admired your habit of always quoting sources. You conspicuously did not quote a source when accusing me of “abusive speech”. Why didn’t you check your facts – or at least have the common courtesy to alert me – before summarily cancelling my event? If you had consulted me, or if you had done even rudimentary fact-checking, you would have concluded that I have never used abusive speech against Islam. I have called IslamISM “vile” but surely you, of all people, understand that Islamism is not the same as Islam. I have criticised the ridiculous pseudoscientific claims made by Islamic apologists (“the sun sets in a marsh” etc), and the opposition of Islamic “ scholars” to evolution and other scientific truths. I have criticised the appalling misogyny and homophobia of Islam, I have criticised the murdering of apostates for no crime other than their disbelief. Far from attacking Muslims, I understand – as perhaps you do not – that Muslims themselves are the prime victims of the oppressive cruelties of Islamism, especially Muslim women.

“I am known as a frequent critic of Christianity and have never been de-platformed for that. Why do you give Islam a free pass? Why is it fine to criticise Christianity but not Islam? “

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/newsroom/dawkins_berkeley/

Mad people making fools of themselves.

Dawkins has never said anything about Islam that wasn’t entirely justified.

This is part of jihad.

censorship. The submission of the west to islam to prevent critical thought & debate.

Islam is the new black

KPFA (94.1 FM) is a listener-funded progressive talk radio and music radio station located in Berkeley, California, U.S., broadcasting to the San Francisco Bay Area. KPFA airs public news, public affairs, talk, and music programming. The station signed on-the-air April 15, 1949, as the first Pacifica station and remains the flagship station of the Pacifica Radio Network. The station claims to promote cultural diversity, promote pluralistic cultural expression, contribute to a lasting understanding between individuals of all nations, races, creeds and colours. It also promotes selective freedom of the press and acts as a forum for various viewpoints.

From wiki.

sibeen said:

KPFA (94.1 FM) is a listener-funded progressive talk radio and music radio station located in Berkeley, California, U.S., broadcasting to the San Francisco Bay Area. KPFA airs public news, public affairs, talk, and music programming. The station signed on-the-air April 15, 1949, as the first Pacifica station and remains the flagship station of the Pacifica Radio Network. The station claims to promote cultural diversity, promote pluralistic cultural expression, contribute to a lasting understanding between individuals of all nations, races, creeds and colours. It also promotes selective freedom of the press and acts as a forum for various viewpoints.

From wiki.

Sounds like that pinko lefty RRR…

skips away

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

KPFA (94.1 FM) is a listener-funded progressive talk radio and music radio station located in Berkeley, California, U.S., broadcasting to the San Francisco Bay Area. KPFA airs public news, public affairs, talk, and music programming. The station signed on-the-air April 15, 1949, as the first Pacifica station and remains the flagship station of the Pacifica Radio Network. The station claims to promote cultural diversity, promote pluralistic cultural expression, contribute to a lasting understanding between individuals of all nations, races, creeds and colours. It also promotes selective freedom of the press and acts as a forum for various viewpoints.

From wiki.

Sounds like that pinko lefty RRR…

skips away

Actually, as a RRR aficionado, that’s exactly what I thought as well :)

sibeen said:

KPFA (94.1 FM) is a listener-funded progressive talk radio and music radio station located in Berkeley, California, U.S., broadcasting to the San Francisco Bay Area. KPFA airs public news, public affairs, talk, and music programming. The station signed on-the-air April 15, 1949, as the first Pacifica station and remains the flagship station of the Pacifica Radio Network. The station claims to promote cultural diversity, promote pluralistic cultural expression, contribute to a lasting understanding between individuals of all nations, races, creeds and colours. It also promotes selective freedom of the press and acts as a forum for various viewpoints.

From wiki.

Well I’m glad we are all agreed that it is ridiculous to cancel Dawkins’ invite because he is critical of things that deserve to be criticised.

I hope we also all agree that any broadcaster has every right to not invite people, or to de-invite people, no matter how ridiculous the grounds for doing so.

sibeen said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

KPFA (94.1 FM) is a listener-funded progressive talk radio and music radio station located in Berkeley, California, U.S., broadcasting to the San Francisco Bay Area. KPFA airs public news, public affairs, talk, and music programming. The station signed on-the-air April 15, 1949, as the first Pacifica station and remains the flagship station of the Pacifica Radio Network. The station claims to promote cultural diversity, promote pluralistic cultural expression, contribute to a lasting understanding between individuals of all nations, races, creeds and colours. It also promotes selective freedom of the press and acts as a forum for various viewpoints.

From wiki.

Sounds like that pinko lefty RRR…

skips away

Actually, as a RRR aficionado, that’s exactly what I thought as well :)

What is RRR?

And what is “selective freedom of the press”?

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Sounds like that pinko lefty RRR…

skips away

Actually, as a RRR aficionado, that’s exactly what I thought as well :)

What is RRR?

And what is “selective freedom of the press”?

RRR is a community radio station based in melbourne.

who here has seen the hockey stick,,,. no not that one?

Wikipedia on the previous Dawkins banning:

After much criticism, the NECSS apologized to Dawkins, admitted their dis-invitation was “not professional” and re-invited him, stating, “There is room for a range of reasonable opinions on these issues and our conversation will reflect that diversity.” Dawkins was unable to accept the re-invitation, as he had suffered a stroke in the interim. At NECSS 2016 a panel was designed to address what had happened with Dawkins, this panel was moderated by Jennifer Lopez from the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space. Also on the panel were Heather Berlin, Will Creele, Julia Galef, John McWhorter and Yvette d’Entremont and titled “Free Speech, Social Justice, and Political Correctness”. According to journalist Russ Dobler the panel came to “common ground” by agreeing that unless the person you are talking to is “completely unreasonable, we should seek out and talk to the people we disagree with most.”

All sounds like a reasonable outcome to me, other than the stroke that is.

And god spoke to Muhammad through the arc angel Gabriel & told him that, not only was he a prophet, but “the last prophet”.
Who says? Muhammad says!
He door knocked around Mecca, trying to convert other arabs by preaching the peaceful religion. Hell, he even said nice things about the jews.

After 13 year effort he has amassed 150 converts, mostly family & friends. Not so successful. And, the authorities had had enough of him & told him to leave Mecca, “or else”.

So, Muhammad, with converts in tow, fled Mecca to seek asylum in Medina, 4 h 23 min north (454.1 km) via Route 15; longer by horse & camel.
Medina, a trading centre & over half jewish, accepted the refugees.

Muhammad’s plan was to convert the jews so he would have more influence in converting others. He adopted practices from the Old Testament that the jews followed; like a fasting period, not eating pig, praying three time a day, so he would be more acceptable to the jews. He also became a politician, & judge.
Well what happened that enabled the asylum seeking immigrant Muhammad to go from 150 converts in his first 13 years at Mecca, to 100,000 converts in his next ten years in Medina?

Re-enactment;
The jews; “piss off Muhammad. We’re not converting to your religion, & we don’t recognise you as a prophet!”

Muhammad chop! Hussain chop. Muslims chop.

Yep, after his first 5 years in Medina, Muhammad had annihilated the jews.

The jews that didn’t escape were slaughtered, the woman sold into sex slavery, & their children adopted into muslim families.
Muhammad is considered the perfect muslim & all muslimes must do their best to emulate him.
Muhammad had four wives. Aisha, he married when she was six. The marriage was consumated when she was nine. Muhammad also had sex slaves. Sound familiar?

This was now the preferred method of conversion. Jihad. The medina Koran. Political Islam. Conversion by the sword, by slavery by submission. The arab peninsular was totally converted, & Muhammad continued jihad until his death, upon which his followers continued his methods.

Consider; of the trilogy of texts, the Koran- the words of god spoken to muhammad, the hadith- his traditions, & the Siri- his biography, most of it is to do with Muhammad (not god) & the kafir (those who specifically do not believe he was god’s prophet). Over 60% is concerned with the kafir.

The muslim march continued north, then to the west & east. Iraq was Christian. Iran was half Christian & half Persian. Afghanistan was Buddhist, Pakistan/ India was Hindi. The area covering Israel, Jorden, Syria & Lebanon was Christian & Jewish. Turkey was Christian.– Egypt & the rest of north Africa – Christian. The Mediterranean sea was no longer free for traders. Europe was attacked, & it continues today.

How is the rise of political Islam in the middle east any different from other empires, inluding the Roman Empire, the Mongol Empire, various Persian empires, New Spain etc which also expanded their borders through bloody conquest?

Witty Rejoinder said:

How is the rise of political Islam in the middle east any different from other empires, inluding the Roman Empire, the Mongol Empire, various Persian empires, New Spain etc which also expanded their borders through bloody conquest?

“How is the rise of political Islam in the middle east” …arabia – middle east – asia – nth africa – europe -UK – america – australia,, get the picture how it different.

Its still happening, the world over

The_observer said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

How is the rise of political Islam in the middle east any different from other empires, inluding the Roman Empire, the Mongol Empire, various Persian empires, New Spain etc which also expanded their borders through bloody conquest?

“How is the rise of political Islam in the middle east” …arabia – middle east – asia – nth africa – europe -UK – america – australia,, get the picture how it different.

Its still happening, the world over

Sure it it. Don’t worry the big bad Muslim won’t be able to hurt you any more.

Witty Rejoinder said:

The_observer said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

How is the rise of political Islam in the middle east any different from other empires, inluding the Roman Empire, the Mongol Empire, various Persian empires, New Spain etc which also expanded their borders through bloody conquest?

“How is the rise of political Islam in the middle east” …arabia – middle east – asia – nth africa – europe -UK – america – australia,, get the picture how it different.

Its still happening, the world over

Sure it it. Don’t worry the big bad Muslim won’t be able to hurt you any more.

thats right, be rude & offensive, smug & ignorant. Try looking at the history of islam instead of flapping your gums.

What ISIS up to. Oh, thats right. slaughter of christians, homos, sex slavery, creating a caliphate. boko harum, what have thay been up too. Oh, they kidnapped christians girls & sold them into sex slavery. No worries, we’ll start a hash tag to fix it.what the Muslim brotherhood up to. Don’t look in there wittless.

wake up.

Witty Rejoinder said:

The_observer said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

How is the rise of political Islam in the middle east any different from other empires, inluding the Roman Empire, the Mongol Empire, various Persian empires, New Spain etc which also expanded their borders through bloody conquest?

“How is the rise of political Islam in the middle east” …arabia – middle east – asia – nth africa – europe -UK – america – australia,, get the picture how it different.

Its still happening, the world over

Sure it it. Don’t worry the big bad Muslim won’t be able to hurt you any more.

Well that deserves an eye roll.

The_observer said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

The_observer said:

“How is the rise of political Islam in the middle east” …arabia – middle east – asia – nth africa – europe -UK – america – australia,, get the picture how it different.

Its still happening, the world over

Sure it it. Don’t worry the big bad Muslim won’t be able to hurt you any more.

thats right, be rude & offensive, smug & ignorant. Try looking at the history of islam instead of flapping your gums.

What ISIS up to. Oh, thats right. slaughter of christians, homos, sex slavery, creating a caliphate. boko harum, what have thay been up too. Oh, they kidnapped christians girls & sold them into sex slavery. No worries, we’ll start a hash tag to fix it.what the Muslim brotherhood up to. Don’t look in there wittless.

wake up.

go look for some news about Scandinavia & european rape epidemic. Muslim immigrants. no respect for woman who are not muslim.

oh nothing to see there.

AwesomeO said:

Well that deserves an eye roll.

You feeling oppressed today too?

Witty Rejoinder said:

AwesomeO said:

Well that deserves an eye roll.

You feeling oppressed today too?

Another eye roll.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, master mind of september 11 attacks.

we don’t need to blow up your buildings or beat you in battle. we will win through your immigration policies, use your countries open boarders, its political correctness.
we will out breed you, marry your woman. We will infiltrate your political system, your bureaucracies, your education system. we will implement sharia.

stumps unloaded, and sorted. Neighbour childers snuck over and helped, then I showed them the gate so I could safely swing the axe for a while.

sitting here in a singlet, hot and perspiring, though I see thermometer says 18C, not exactly cold.

What is RRR?

It was the code sent out by allied shipping during WW2, it meant they were under U-Boat attack.

Peak Warming Man said:

What is RRR?

It was the code sent out by allied shipping during WW2, it meant they were under U-Boat attack.

Actually, RRR was the signal for attack by a surface raider warship, like the Graf Spee, or the Admiral Scheer.

QQQ was, at least in the early part of the war, the alert for attack by a disguised raider, like the Kormoran.

For submarine attack the signal was SSS.

Is deplatformed even a word?

Ian said:

Is deplatformed even a word?

Yes. Is it now.

party_pants said:

Ian said:

Is deplatformed even a word?

Yes. Is it now.

‘Podiumed’ has been around for a while, especially noticeable in Olympics years e.g. ‘he ‘podiumed’ in the 100 metres freestyle’.

party_pants said:

Ian said:

Is deplatformed even a word?

Yes. Is it now.

What dictionary cites it?

mcgoon said:

party_pants said:

Ian said:

Is deplatformed even a word?

Yes. Is it now.

‘Podiumed’ has been around for a while, especially noticeable in Olympics years e.g. ‘he ‘podiumed’ in the 100 metres freestyle’.

One wonders if one can be depodiumed.

• What dictionary cites it?

De is a common prefix and ed is a common suffix…

roughbarked said:

mcgoon said:

party_pants said:

Yes. Is it now.

‘Podiumed’ has been around for a while, especially noticeable in Olympics years e.g. ‘he ‘podiumed’ in the 100 metres freestyle’.

One wonders if one can be depodiumed.

I know that one can be ‘deposed’.

This suggests that one must first be ‘posed’.

furious said:

• What dictionary cites it?

De is a common prefix and ed is a common suffix…

So just bung them onto any noun? I think not.

mcgoon said:

roughbarked said:

mcgoon said:

‘Podiumed’ has been around for a while, especially noticeable in Olympics years e.g. ‘he ‘podiumed’ in the 100 metres freestyle’.

One wonders if one can be depodiumed.

I know that one can be ‘deposed’.

This suggests that one must first be ‘posed’.

posited

Ian said:

furious said:

• What dictionary cites it?

De is a common prefix and ed is a common suffix…

So just bung them onto any noun? I think not.

de noun cing everything?

roughbarked said:

mcgoon said:

roughbarked said:

One wonders if one can be depodiumed.

I know that one can be ‘deposed’.

This suggests that one must first be ‘posed’.

posited

If that’s the case, then one’s removal would mean the one has been ‘deposited’.

roughbarked said:

Ian said:

furious said:

• What dictionary cites it?

De is a common prefix and ed is a common suffix…

So just bung them onto any noun? I think not.

de noun cing everything?

Oh, i say.. (light applause) .. well done, that man.

• So just bung them onto any noun? I think not.

Knowing what all three parts mean enables most English speakers to decipher the meaning. The whole agglomeration does not need a definition…

mcgoon said:

roughbarked said:

mcgoon said:

I know that one can be ‘deposed’.

This suggests that one must first be ‘posed’.

posited

If that’s the case, then one’s removal would mean the one has been ‘deposited’.

It is interesting, isn’t it.

roughbarked said:

mcgoon said:

roughbarked said:

posited

If that’s the case, then one’s removal would mean the one has been ‘deposited’.

It is interesting, isn’t it.

It’s English, and how she is spoke.

furious said:

• So just bung them onto any noun? I think not.

Knowing what all three parts mean enables most English speakers to decipher the meaning. The whole agglomeration does not need a definition…

It all comes down to the context.

mcgoon said:

roughbarked said:

mcgoon said:

If that’s the case, then one’s removal would mean the one has been ‘deposited’.

It is interesting, isn’t it.

It’s English, and how she is spoke.

Indeed that is what it is.

roughbarked said:

mcgoon said:

roughbarked said:

It is interesting, isn’t it.

It’s English, and how she is spoke.

Indeed that is what it is.

You get your wind up
whilst you wind the clock.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

mcgoon said:

It’s English, and how she is spoke.

Indeed that is what it is.

You get your wind up
whilst you wind the clock.

There’s the story of the foreigner’ who travelled to London to improve his English by immersion in the language.

He quickly encountered difficulties like ‘through’, and ‘bough’, and ‘rough’, and ‘sheer’ and ‘shear’, ‘sign’ and ‘signify’ and so forth.

At the end of particularly trying outing, he was tottering back to his hotel, when he saw a theatre poster which said ‘HAMLET – pronounced success!’ – and he fainted.

mcgoon said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Indeed that is what it is.

You get your wind up
whilst you wind the clock.

There’s the story of the foreigner’ who travelled to London to improve his English by immersion in the language.

He quickly encountered difficulties like ‘through’, and ‘bough’, and ‘rough’, and ‘sheer’ and ‘shear’, ‘sign’ and ‘signify’ and so forth.

At the end of particularly trying outing, he was tottering back to his hotel, when he saw a theatre poster which said ‘HAMLET – pronounced success!’ – and he fainted.

completely threw him.

esselte said:

A few months ago an invitation foir Richard Dawkins to speak at the North East Conference on Science and Skepticism was withdrawn after Dawkins re-tweeted a satirical song / video clip that compared aspects of Islam and third wave feminism.

A similar thing has happened again.

“ Subject: Notification for Richard Dawkins: Science in the Soul: Selected Writings of a Passionate Rationalist

“ Dear Richard Dawkins event ticket buyers,

“ We regret to inform you that KPFA has canceled our event with Richard Dawkins. We had booked this event based entirely on his excellent new book on science, when we didn’t know he had offended and hurt – in his tweets and other comments on Islam, so many people. KPFA does not endorse hurtful speech. While KPFA emphatically supports serious free speech, we do not support abusive speech. We apologize for not having had broader knowledge of Dawkins views much earlier. We also apologize to all those inconvenienced by this cancellation. Your ticket purchases will automatically be refunded by Brown Paper Tickets.

“ Sincerely,

“ KPFA Radio 94.1 FM”

Dawkins reply (in part):

“ My memory of KPFA is that you were unusually scrupulous about fact-checking. I especially admired your habit of always quoting sources. You conspicuously did not quote a source when accusing me of “abusive speech”. Why didn’t you check your facts – or at least have the common courtesy to alert me – before summarily cancelling my event? If you had consulted me, or if you had done even rudimentary fact-checking, you would have concluded that I have never used abusive speech against Islam. I have called IslamISM “vile” but surely you, of all people, understand that Islamism is not the same as Islam. I have criticised the ridiculous pseudoscientific claims made by Islamic apologists (“the sun sets in a marsh” etc), and the opposition of Islamic “ scholars” to evolution and other scientific truths. I have criticised the appalling misogyny and homophobia of Islam, I have criticised the murdering of apostates for no crime other than their disbelief. Far from attacking Muslims, I understand – as perhaps you do not – that Muslims themselves are the prime victims of the oppressive cruelties of Islamism, especially Muslim women.

“I am known as a frequent critic of Christianity and have never been de-platformed for that. Why do you give Islam a free pass? Why is it fine to criticise Christianity but not Islam? “

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/newsroom/dawkins_berkeley/

Over reaction by KPFA Radio 94.1 FM

Ian said:

party_pants said:

Ian said:

Is deplatformed even a word?

Yes. Is it now.

What dictionary cites it?

If unhalfbricking is a word, I don’t see why deplatformed can’t be a word.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Ian said:

party_pants said:

Yes. Is it now.

What dictionary cites it?

If unhalfbricking is a word, I don’t see why deplatformed can’t be a word.

say it three times and spin on an axis three times.. and so be it.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Ian said:

What dictionary cites it?

If unhalfbricking is a word, I don’t see why deplatformed can’t be a word.

say it three times and spin on an axis three times.. and so be it.

I thought you’d like the unhalfbricking reference :)

Although not up to the standard of your de-noun-sing, to be sure :)

>Is deplatformed even a word?

probably simply means to remove a platform for whatever, seems intuitive enough

Disinvite is a better-established word meaning basically the same thing.

dv said:

Disinvite is a better-established word meaning basically the same thing.

deplatformed feels better for me.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

If unhalfbricking is a word, I don’t see why deplatformed can’t be a word.

say it three times and spin on an axis three times.. and so be it.

I thought you’d like the unhalfbricking reference :)

Although not up to the standard of your de-noun-sing, to be sure :)

glad you saw it. ;)

transition said:

dv said:

Disinvite is a better-established word meaning basically the same thing.

deplatformed feels better for me.

Okay

transition said:

>Is deplatformed even a word?

probably simply means to remove a platform for whatever, seems intuitive enough

displatformestablismentarianism?

roughbarked said:

transition said:

>Is deplatformed even a word?

probably simply means to remove a platform for whatever, seems intuitive enough

displatformestablismentarianism?

don’t be disunobtuse rb :-)

transition said:

roughbarked said:

transition said:

>Is deplatformed even a word?

probably simply means to remove a platform for whatever, seems intuitive enough

displatformestablismentarianism?

don’t be disunobtuse rb :-)

You need to underconstumble the hypotenuse.