I have been after a feral cat for some time, I had caught her kitten (juvenile and semi-independent) a couple of weeks ago, but could not catch the adult. So I had taken to carrying the shotgun with me when I gave the dog her pre-bedtime walk, but tonight I forgot to take the gun and as fate would have it I spotted the cat’s eyes looking back at me from a Banksia, a couple of metres off the ground. I cursed myself for not bringing the gun, but quickly turned away and walked on as if I had not seen her and made my way home for the gun. Instead of taking the shortest route back to the cat, I took the long way around so as not to frighten her and to my joy, she was still there.

I took aim at her eyes, being the only part of her I could see, but just before I pulled the trigger, she moved and I could no longer see them, but having lost a number of my native animals to her I decided to shoot where I had last seen her and you beauty, I got her, and she fell to the ground and when I heard the back legs kicking I knew it was fatal. I sent the dog in to locate her, then climbed in behind, the bush being very dense with hanging Banksia branches and a tangle mass of dead branches on the ground. I expected a smaller cat, but she was quite large, a typical grey tabby and in excellent condition. So the evening for me and the dog ended on a very high note.

PermeateFree said:

I have been after a feral cat for some time, I had caught her kitten (juvenile and semi-independent) a couple of weeks ago, but could not catch the adult. So I had taken to carrying the shotgun with me when I gave the dog her pre-bedtime walk, but tonight I forgot to take the gun and as fate would have it I spotted the cat’s eyes looking back at me from a Banksia, a couple of metres off the ground. I cursed myself for not bringing the gun, but quickly turned away and walked on as if I had not seen her and made my way home for the gun. Instead of taking the shortest route back to the cat, I took the long way around so as not to frighten her and to my joy, she was still there.

I took aim at her eyes, being the only part of her I could see, but just before I pulled the trigger, she moved and I could no longer see them, but having lost a number of my native animals to her I decided to shoot where I had last seen her and you beauty, I got her, and she fell to the ground and when I heard the back legs kicking I knew it was fatal. I sent the dog in to locate her, then climbed in behind, the bush being very dense with hanging Banksia branches and a tangle mass of dead branches on the ground. I expected a smaller cat, but she was quite large, a typical grey tabby and in excellent condition. So the evening for me and the dog ended on a very high note.

Good work!

Tamb said:

PermeateFree said:

I have been after a feral cat for some time, I had caught her kitten (juvenile and semi-independent) a couple of weeks ago, but could not catch the adult. So I had taken to carrying the shotgun with me when I gave the dog her pre-bedtime walk, but tonight I forgot to take the gun and as fate would have it I spotted the cat’s eyes looking back at me from a Banksia, a couple of metres off the ground. I cursed myself for not bringing the gun, but quickly turned away and walked on as if I had not seen her and made my way home for the gun. Instead of taking the shortest route back to the cat, I took the long way around so as not to frighten her and to my joy, she was still there.

I took aim at her eyes, being the only part of her I could see, but just before I pulled the trigger, she moved and I could no longer see them, but having lost a number of my native animals to her I decided to shoot where I had last seen her and you beauty, I got her, and she fell to the ground and when I heard the back legs kicking I knew it was fatal. I sent the dog in to locate her, then climbed in behind, the bush being very dense with hanging Banksia branches and a tangle mass of dead branches on the ground. I expected a smaller cat, but she was quite large, a typical grey tabby and in excellent condition. So the evening for me and the dog ended on a very high note.

Good work!

Should have dug a hole first for it to fall into.

Just shows any wako can still get a gun licence.

You, with a shot gun, is a disturbing thought

You mean waco

The_observer said:

Just shows any wako can still get a gun licence.

You, with a shot gun, is a disturbing thought

Yeah, never give a gun to a conservationist.

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

Just shows any wako can still get a gun licence.

You, with a shot gun, is a disturbing thought

Yeah, never give a gun to a conservationist.

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I’m generally considered a wako & I don’t have either a gun or a license.
That’s discrimination.

dv said:

You mean waco

the did?

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

Just shows any wako can still get a gun licence.

You, with a shot gun, is a disturbing thought

Yeah, never give a gun to a conservationist.

conservation >>> excuse for murder

That cat could have been trapped & taken to a vet to be put down humanly.

Oh no, you big hunter

He went out tiger hunting with his elephant and gun
In case of accidents he always took his mom
He’s the all Australian conservationist-headed Saxon mother’s son
All the possums sing

Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill, Bungalow Bill?
Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill, Bungalow Bill?

Yeh, good one William

The_observer said:

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

Just shows any wako can still get a gun licence.

You, with a shot gun, is a disturbing thought

Yeah, never give a gun to a conservationist.

conservation >>> excuse for murder

That cat could have been trapped & taken to a vet to be put down humanly.

Oh no, you big hunter

He went out tiger hunting with his elephant and gun
In case of accidents he always took his mom
He’s the all Australian conservationist-headed Saxon mother’s son
All the possums sing

Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill, Bungalow Bill?
Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill, Bungalow Bill?

Yeh, good one William

Feral cats are highly suspicious and generally will not go near a trap, but as you have no interest in nature, you would not have known that! Some other information for you Observer…….did you know a feral cat will kill and eat over a thousand animals a year, ranging in size from a small lizard to a bandicoot. They will catch and play with many more until they decide to kill it. Yeah, the poor pussy cat.

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

PermeateFree said:

Yeah, never give a gun to a conservationist.

conservation >>> excuse for murder

That cat could have been trapped & taken to a vet to be put down humanly.

Oh no, you big hunter

He went out tiger hunting with his elephant and gun
In case of accidents he always took his mom
He’s the all Australian conservationist-headed Saxon mother’s son
All the possums sing

Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill, Bungalow Bill?
Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill, Bungalow Bill?

Yeh, good one William

Feral cats are highly suspicious and generally will not go near a trap, but as you have no interest in nature, you would not have known that! Some other information for you Observer…….did you know a feral cat will kill and eat over a thousand animals a year, ranging in size from a small lizard to a bandicoot. They will catch and play with many more until they decide to kill it. Yeah, the poor pussy cat.

Listen here Billiam, cats can be, & are trapped.

And “put down humanly by vets”

Hey bungalow billiam? What will you murder for pleasure next?

The_observer said:

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

conservation >>> excuse for murder

That cat could have been trapped & taken to a vet to be put down humanly.

Oh no, you big hunter

He went out tiger hunting with his elephant and gun
In case of accidents he always took his mom
He’s the all Australian conservationist-headed Saxon mother’s son
All the possums sing

Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill, Bungalow Bill?
Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill, Bungalow Bill?

Yeh, good one William

Feral cats are highly suspicious and generally will not go near a trap, but as you have no interest in nature, you would not have known that! Some other information for you Observer…….did you know a feral cat will kill and eat over a thousand animals a year, ranging in size from a small lizard to a bandicoot. They will catch and play with many more until they decide to kill it. Yeah, the poor pussy cat.

Listen here Billiam, cats can be, & are trapped.

And “put down humanly by vets”

Hey bungalow billiam? What will you murder for pleasure next?

I think you are confusing a domestic cat, or one that lives around humans with a feral cat (a professional killer that prefers live prey). Still I expect no more from you.

PETITION LETTER:

Dear Australian Environment Minister Greg Hunt,

You recently announced a plan to kill two million feral cats in the country who it says are harming native species, despite the fact that animal rights groups say this won’t do much to help. You claim the cats will be killed humanely, but is there really a way to murder innocent animals who are just trying to survive?

I agree with Brigitte Bardot that the money set to murder innocent animals would be better used to sterilize them and decrease the population in that nonviolent way rather than your plan to shoot and poison the animals.

Considering feral cats stem from domesticated cats who became wild, sterilization seems much more fair. These animals didn’t ask to be abandoned from their homes and forced to survive in the wild. I urge you to not unnecessarily murder 2 million feral cats and instead consider more humane options.

Sincerely,

https://forcechange.com/145469/dont-murder-feral-cats/

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

PermeateFree said:

Feral cats are highly suspicious and generally will not go near a trap, but as you have no interest in nature, you would not have known that! Some other information for you Observer…….did you know a feral cat will kill and eat over a thousand animals a year, ranging in size from a small lizard to a bandicoot. They will catch and play with many more until they decide to kill it. Yeah, the poor pussy cat.

Listen here Billiam, cats can be, & are trapped.

And “put down humanly by vets”

Hey bungalow billiam? What will you murder for pleasure next?

I think you are confusing a domestic cat, or one that lives around humans with a feral cat (a professional killer that prefers live prey). Still I expect no more from you.

easy… stick live bait in the trap… :P

can I ask why the shotty was weapon of choice?

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

PermeateFree said:

Feral cats are highly suspicious and generally will not go near a trap, but as you have no interest in nature, you would not have known that! Some other information for you Observer…….did you know a feral cat will kill and eat over a thousand animals a year, ranging in size from a small lizard to a bandicoot. They will catch and play with many more until they decide to kill it. Yeah, the poor pussy cat.

Listen here Billiam, cats can be, & are trapped.

And “put down humanly by vets”

Hey bungalow billiam? What will you murder for pleasure next?

I think you are confusing a domestic cat, or one that lives around humans with a feral cat (a professional killer that prefers live prey). Still I expect no more from you.

Don’t they poison feral cats en masse instead of trapping them

The_observer said:

PETITION LETTER:

Dear Australian Environment Minister Greg Hunt,

You recently announced a plan to kill two million feral cats in the country who it says are harming native species, despite the fact that animal rights groups say this won’t do much to help. You claim the cats will be killed humanely, but is there really a way to murder innocent animals who are just trying to survive?

I agree with Brigitte Bardot that the money set to murder innocent animals would be better used to sterilize them and decrease the population in that nonviolent way rather than your plan to shoot and poison the animals.

Considering feral cats stem from domesticated cats who became wild, sterilization seems much more fair. These animals didn’t ask to be abandoned from their homes and forced to survive in the wild. I urge you to not unnecessarily murder 2 million feral cats and instead consider more humane options.

Sincerely,

https://forcechange.com/145469/dont-murder-feral-cats/

There are like 20 million feral cats in Australia … I’m not sure what her plans is. Catch them all and tie their tubes?

The_observer said:

PETITION LETTER:

Dear Australian Environment Minister Greg Hunt,

You recently announced a plan to kill two million feral cats in the country who it says are harming native species, despite the fact that animal rights groups say this won’t do much to help. You claim the cats will be killed humanely, but is there really a way to murder innocent animals who are just trying to survive?

I agree with Brigitte Bardot that the money set to murder innocent animals would be better used to sterilize them and decrease the population in that nonviolent way rather than your plan to shoot and poison the animals.

Considering feral cats stem from domesticated cats who became wild, sterilization seems much more fair. These animals didn’t ask to be abandoned from their homes and forced to survive in the wild. I urge you to not unnecessarily murder 2 million feral cats and instead consider more humane options.

Sincerely,

https://forcechange.com/145469/dont-murder-feral-cats/

Obviously written by a cat fanatic, with absolutely no understanding of feral cats and the damage they do. Yes there are actually stupid people in Australia who will sacrifice the nations wildlife for the welfare of introduced cats. How crazy is that?

I was wondering the other day what predators a feral cat would have perhaps besides a dingo, we don’t have many large sized carnivores in Australia that could catch and kill a feral cat.

dv said:

The_observer said:

PETITION LETTER:

Dear Australian Environment Minister Greg Hunt,

You recently announced a plan to kill two million feral cats in the country who it says are harming native species, despite the fact that animal rights groups say this won’t do much to help. You claim the cats will be killed humanely, but is there really a way to murder innocent animals who are just trying to survive?

I agree with Brigitte Bardot that the money set to murder innocent animals would be better used to sterilize them and decrease the population in that nonviolent way rather than your plan to shoot and poison the animals.

Considering feral cats stem from domesticated cats who became wild, sterilization seems much more fair. These animals didn’t ask to be abandoned from their homes and forced to survive in the wild. I urge you to not unnecessarily murder 2 million feral cats and instead consider more humane options.

Sincerely,

https://forcechange.com/145469/dont-murder-feral-cats/

There are like 20 million feral cats in Australia …

No, there’s 19,999,999

thanks to bungalow billaim, big game hunter

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

PETITION LETTER:

Dear Australian Environment Minister Greg Hunt,

You recently announced a plan to kill two million feral cats in the country who it says are harming native species, despite the fact that animal rights groups say this won’t do much to help. You claim the cats will be killed humanely, but is there really a way to murder innocent animals who are just trying to survive?

I agree with Brigitte Bardot that the money set to murder innocent animals would be better used to sterilize them and decrease the population in that nonviolent way rather than your plan to shoot and poison the animals.

Considering feral cats stem from domesticated cats who became wild, sterilization seems much more fair. These animals didn’t ask to be abandoned from their homes and forced to survive in the wild. I urge you to not unnecessarily murder 2 million feral cats and instead consider more humane options.

Sincerely,

https://forcechange.com/145469/dont-murder-feral-cats/

Obviously written by a cat fanatic, with absolutely no understanding of feral cats and the damage they do. Yes there are actually stupid people in Australia who will sacrifice the nations wildlife for the welfare of introduced cats. How crazy is that?

I do have to say though that a number of people hate cat (all cats) and wish them harm in an often cruel manner.

Also … you literally cannot murder a cat.

Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

PETITION LETTER:

Dear Australian Environment Minister Greg Hunt,

You recently announced a plan to kill two million feral cats in the country who it says are harming native species, despite the fact that animal rights groups say this won’t do much to help. You claim the cats will be killed humanely, but is there really a way to murder innocent animals who are just trying to survive?

I agree with Brigitte Bardot that the money set to murder innocent animals would be better used to sterilize them and decrease the population in that nonviolent way rather than your plan to shoot and poison the animals.

Considering feral cats stem from domesticated cats who became wild, sterilization seems much more fair. These animals didn’t ask to be abandoned from their homes and forced to survive in the wild. I urge you to not unnecessarily murder 2 million feral cats and instead consider more humane options.

Sincerely,

https://forcechange.com/145469/dont-murder-feral-cats/

Obviously written by a cat fanatic, with absolutely no understanding of feral cats and the damage they do. Yes there are actually stupid people in Australia who will sacrifice the nations wildlife for the welfare of introduced cats. How crazy is that?

I do have to say though that a number of people hate cat (all cats) and wish them harm in an often cruel manner.

Hmmm, perhaps bungalow billiam is a serial cat killer

• we don’t have many large sized carnivores in Australia that could catch and kill a feral cat.

And I, for one, am thankful for that. People go on about how dangerous australian animals are but I’d rather come across a red back spider on a nature walk than a freakin’ bear…

• I do have to say though that a number of people hate cat (all cats) and wish them harm in an often cruel manner.

I hate cats but also do not wish them any specific harm…

Isn’t it mandatory and government subsidized (I think, maybe not) to get your cats fixed, vets often do it cheap

furious said:

• we don’t have many large sized carnivores in Australia that could catch and kill a feral cat.

And I, for one, am thankful for that. People go on about how dangerous australian animals are but I’d rather come across a red back spider on a nature walk than a freakin’ bear…

True but it does prove how deadly an introduced predator is in Australia.

stumpy_seahorse said:

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

Listen here Billiam, cats can be, & are trapped.

And “put down humanly by vets”

Hey bungalow billiam? What will you murder for pleasure next?

I think you are confusing a domestic cat, or one that lives around humans with a feral cat (a professional killer that prefers live prey). Still I expect no more from you.

easy… stick live bait in the trap… :P

can I ask why the shotty was weapon of choice?

A live bait in a trap would need to be secured to the trap trigger and so would set the trap off itself, just not practical. A shotgun is the weapon of choice for more people on the land, especially in vegetated areas. To use anything else you need open paddocks with a good prolonged view of the animal, plus be a good shot. We are doing this to get rid of a pest, not for sport.

Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

PETITION LETTER:

Dear Australian Environment Minister Greg Hunt,

You recently announced a plan to kill two million feral cats in the country who it says are harming native species, despite the fact that animal rights groups say this won’t do much to help. You claim the cats will be killed humanely, but is there really a way to murder innocent animals who are just trying to survive?

I agree with Brigitte Bardot that the money set to murder innocent animals would be better used to sterilize them and decrease the population in that nonviolent way rather than your plan to shoot and poison the animals.

Considering feral cats stem from domesticated cats who became wild, sterilization seems much more fair. These animals didn’t ask to be abandoned from their homes and forced to survive in the wild. I urge you to not unnecessarily murder 2 million feral cats and instead consider more humane options.

Sincerely,

https://forcechange.com/145469/dont-murder-feral-cats/

Obviously written by a cat fanatic, with absolutely no understanding of feral cats and the damage they do. Yes there are actually stupid people in Australia who will sacrifice the nations wildlife for the welfare of introduced cats. How crazy is that?

I do have to say though that a number of people hate cat (all cats) and wish them harm in an often cruel manner.

But this letter has nothing to do with that. The feral cat elimination program is not cruel.

>>I agree with Brigitte Bardot

Not something you hear everyday.

Cymek said:

I was wondering the other day what predators a feral cat would have perhaps besides a dingo, we don’t have many large sized carnivores in Australia that could catch and kill a feral cat.

Tasmanian Devils can do it, they have found that they seek out and eat the kittens.

dv said:

Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

Obviously written by a cat fanatic, with absolutely no understanding of feral cats and the damage they do. Yes there are actually stupid people in Australia who will sacrifice the nations wildlife for the welfare of introduced cats. How crazy is that?

I do have to say though that a number of people hate cat (all cats) and wish them harm in an often cruel manner.

But this letter has nothing to do with that. The feral cat elimination program is not cruel.

Yeah I know

Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

Listen here Billiam, cats can be, & are trapped.

And “put down humanly by vets”

Hey bungalow billiam? What will you murder for pleasure next?

I think you are confusing a domestic cat, or one that lives around humans with a feral cat (a professional killer that prefers live prey). Still I expect no more from you.

Don’t they poison feral cats en masse instead of trapping them

The WA dept of ag say they have developed one that is proving to be partly effective, but these are specially prepared baits and quite different to say fox bait, which a cat will ignore.

Cymek said:

I was wondering the other day what predators a feral cat would have perhaps besides a dingo, we don’t have many large sized carnivores in Australia that could catch and kill a feral cat.

The dingo is the only animal apart from us.

That’s the beauty part. In the winter time, the gorillas simply freeze to death.

The_observer said:

Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

Obviously written by a cat fanatic, with absolutely no understanding of feral cats and the damage they do. Yes there are actually stupid people in Australia who will sacrifice the nations wildlife for the welfare of introduced cats. How crazy is that?

I do have to say though that a number of people hate cat (all cats) and wish them harm in an often cruel manner.

Hmmm, perhaps bungalow billiam is a serial cat killer

Certainly am and proud of it.

AwesomeO said:

Cymek said:

I was wondering the other day what predators a feral cat would have perhaps besides a dingo, we don’t have many large sized carnivores in Australia that could catch and kill a feral cat.

Tasmanian Devils can do it, they have found that they seek out and eat the kittens.

Devils are scavengers, not live hunters

• The dingo is the only animal apart from us.

What about a python?

I was going to suggest drones could kill the cats but I suppose there would be risks…

PermeateFree said:

Cymek said:

I was wondering the other day what predators a feral cat would have perhaps besides a dingo, we don’t have many large sized carnivores in Australia that could catch and kill a feral cat.

The dingo is the only animal apart from us.

What about foxes?

Do you have foxes in WA?

The Rev Dodgson said:

PermeateFree said:

Cymek said:

I was wondering the other day what predators a feral cat would have perhaps besides a dingo, we don’t have many large sized carnivores in Australia that could catch and kill a feral cat.

The dingo is the only animal apart from us.

What about foxes?

Do you have foxes in WA?

Yes I forgot about foxes

Cymek said:

Isn’t it mandatory and government subsidized (I think, maybe not) to get your cats fixed, vets often do it cheap

Not talking about domestic cats here, but very wild feral cats. Would like to see some of these cat lovers giving one a hug. Bet they wouldn’t do it again.

But we’re trying to get rid of foxes too

AwesomeO said:

Cymek said:

I was wondering the other day what predators a feral cat would have perhaps besides a dingo, we don’t have many large sized carnivores in Australia that could catch and kill a feral cat.

Tasmanian Devils can do it, they have found that they seek out and eat the kittens.

Yes, a great pity we don’t have them on the mainland any more.

stumpy_seahorse said:

AwesomeO said:

Cymek said:

I was wondering the other day what predators a feral cat would have perhaps besides a dingo, we don’t have many large sized carnivores in Australia that could catch and kill a feral cat.

Tasmanian Devils can do it, they have found that they seek out and eat the kittens.

Devils are scavengers, not live hunters

They will eat the kittens no problems. However they are not a particular good hunter as such, but if they come across something alive and easy to catch, they will not turn it down.

The Rev Dodgson said:

PermeateFree said:

Cymek said:

I was wondering the other day what predators a feral cat would have perhaps besides a dingo, we don’t have many large sized carnivores in Australia that could catch and kill a feral cat.

The dingo is the only animal apart from us.

What about foxes?

Do you have foxes in WA?

Foxes do not hunt cats (too dangerous), but probably would eat the kittens if the mother was elsewhere. One reason cats will often avoid areas with too many foxes.

Cage Trapping feral cats & rats

https://youtu.be/HE5k7WL6j5c

The_observer said:

Cage Trapping feral cats & rats

https://youtu.be/HE5k7WL6j5c

Is it practical with millions of them though especially if they are wary of traps

Foxes kill and eat feral cats; feral cats kill and eat rabbits. I’ve read studies (quite a while ago, though) where foxes were eradicated from an area, but that led to a massive increase in cats; when they tried eliminateing cats instead, the rabbit population exploded. I can’t recall where I read about it (it was about 20 years ago), or what happened when they eliminated the rabbits instead (but it led to an increase in foxes?) I’ll have to go and try to find it again.

Cymek said:

The_observer said:

Cage Trapping feral cats & rats

https://youtu.be/HE5k7WL6j5c

Is it practical with millions of them though especially if they are wary of traps

for a rednech with a shotgun on his property, there fine

The_observer said:

Cage Trapping feral cats & rats

https://youtu.be/HE5k7WL6j5c

Had you watched all, it was about catching cats in or near human habitation, where the cats are more used to being around people and where food might be readily available. Cats in this situation are very easy to catch in a cage and I have caught many that way. However when out in the bush where cats are totally self-reliant, it is a very different situation. You may catch the odd one, like I cage trapped the juvenile of the cat I shot, but that animal was very hungry as there is little food around at this time of year.

Cymek said:

The_observer said:

Cage Trapping feral cats & rats

https://youtu.be/HE5k7WL6j5c

Is it practical with millions of them though especially if they are wary of traps

No.

PermeateFree said:

Cymek said:

The_observer said:

Cage Trapping feral cats & rats

https://youtu.be/HE5k7WL6j5c

Is it practical with millions of them though especially if they are wary of traps

No.

but it is for you. one man on a hobbie farm

btm said:

Foxes kill and eat feral cats; feral cats kill and eat rabbits. I’ve read studies (quite a while ago, though) where foxes were eradicated from an area, but that led to a massive increase in cats; when they tried eliminateing cats instead, the rabbit population exploded. I can’t recall where I read about it (it was about 20 years ago), or what happened when they eliminated the rabbits instead (but it led to an increase in foxes?) I’ll have to go and try to find it again.

A fox is not that much larger than a cat and to try and kill such a well equipped predator would very likely result in serious injury to itself, which would then likely mean a slow death. Foxes don’t kill healthy cats, but the cats avoid the foxes, as they will eat their young. And cats will as a conscience increase when foxes are removed, as will rabbits when they are both removed. However they are all introduced pests and are not the answer.

PermeateFree said:

btm said:

Foxes kill and eat feral cats; feral cats kill and eat rabbits. I’ve read studies (quite a while ago, though) where foxes were eradicated from an area, but that led to a massive increase in cats; when they tried eliminateing cats instead, the rabbit population exploded. I can’t recall where I read about it (it was about 20 years ago), or what happened when they eliminated the rabbits instead (but it led to an increase in foxes?) I’ll have to go and try to find it again.

A fox is not that much larger than a cat and to try and kill such a well equipped predator would very likely result in serious injury to itself, which would then likely mean a slow death. Foxes don’t kill healthy cats, but the cats avoid the foxes, as they will eat their young. And cats will as a conscience increase when foxes are removed, as will rabbits when they are both removed. However they are all introduced pests and are not the answer.

I can’t imagine a feral cat being chased would be easy to catch especially as they can run up a tree where other animals might not easily follow.

The_observer said:

PermeateFree said:

Cymek said:

Is it practical with millions of them though especially if they are wary of traps

No.

but it is for you. one man on a hobbie farm

My nearest neighbor is over a kilometre away and the others much further. This property is all bush and largely surrounded by bush, plus is itself well over a 100 acres, so not a farm in anyway, just a place to live a quite life.

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

PermeateFree said:

No.

but it is for you. one man on a hobbie farm

My nearest neighbor is over a kilometre away and the others much further. This property is all bush and largely surrounded by bush, plus is itself well over a 100 acres, so not a farm in anyway, just a place to live a quite life.

quite = quiet

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

PermeateFree said:

No.

but it is for you. one man on a hobbie farm

My nearest neighbor is over a kilometre away and the others much further. This property is all bush and largely surrounded by bush, plus is itself well over a 100 acres, so not a farm in anyway, just a place to live a quite life.

Not a primary producer,:possible not e v en a chook.

But a shotgun

The_observer said:

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

but it is for you. one man on a hobbie farm

My nearest neighbor is over a kilometre away and the others much further. This property is all bush and largely surrounded by bush, plus is itself well over a 100 acres, so not a farm in anyway, just a place to live a quite life.

Not a primary producer,:possible not e v en a chook.

But a shotgun

Unlike Boris, no chooks either. A land owner is required to remove feral pests from their properties.

You can’t take a trick can you Observer, but I thank you for your troll comments and questions, as it has given me a chance to draw attention to a major predator of our wildlife. See you can be useful after all and not even know it.

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

PermeateFree said:

My nearest neighbor is over a kilometre away and the others much further. This property is all bush and largely surrounded by bush, plus is itself well over a 100 acres, so not a farm in anyway, just a place to live a quite life.

Not a primary producer,:possible not e v en a chook.

But a shotgun

Unlike Boris, no chooks either. A land owner is required to remove feral pests from their properties.

You can’t take a trick can you Observer, but I thank you for your troll comments and questions, as it has given me a chance to draw attention to a major predator of our wildlife. See you can be useful after all and not even know it.

Buy a trap Bungalow Billiam

The_observer said:

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

Not a primary producer,:possible not e v en a chook.

But a shotgun

Unlike Boris, no chooks either. A land owner is required to remove feral pests from their properties.

You can’t take a trick can you Observer, but I thank you for your troll comments and questions, as it has given me a chance to draw attention to a major predator of our wildlife. See you can be useful after all and not even know it.

Buy a trap Bungalow Billiam

I have several and have caught many, many cats with them, but very few here. Finding such a small wily predator in the bush is like looking for a needle in a haystack and you must take any opportunity that presents.

Lethal force is sometimes the only solution when it comes to removing feral pests.

I’m happy to shoot wild pigs until the rifling wears out. They don’t belong, roaming around in packs, and they’re bloody dangerous.

Also ok with shooting feral cats. Same deal applies with their presence (although not quite so dangerous to people)..

Cats are every bit as wily as you’d expect. Traps can be effective, but the creatures learn. They learn to recognise the traps, and will even learn to avoid likely settings for them.

Other than baiting (with the consequent risks to other animals), shooting the buggers is about the only other measure, and is both effective and selective.

Once the genie is out of the bottle, or the blue smoke is out of the wiring, it is very hard to put back in again.

If we could have had a rule at first settlement that only sterilised feral animals would be allowed in it would have been so much simpler.

party_pants said:

Once the genie is out of the bottle, or the blue smoke is out of the wiring, it is very hard to put back in again.

If we could have had a rule at first settlement that only sterilised feral animals would be allowed in it would have been so much simpler.

Well, the animals they imported were generally not supposed to go feral (others, like rabbits and foxes, arrived here and went wild due to monumental stupidity, but…). Most animals weren’t ‘feral’ until they got away and established wild populations.

Animals like pigs and sheep and horses were assets, and not intended to be lost to the wild. However, it happened.

As assets, meant to be husbanded for production and work, there would have been no point in importing only sterilised animals. It was hard enough to get any animal here alive in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, let alone to ensure a steady resupply of animals to replaced deceased sterilised beastst.

Anyway it was estimated that there were 21 million cats in 1970 so I’m wondering what the real figure is today.

this cat was apparently eating local wildlife.

The shooter? Bungalow Billiam

The_observer said:

this cat was apparently eating local wildlife.

The shooter? Bungalow Billiam

What a man.

Peak Warming Man said:

The_observer said:

!http://africatrophyhunting.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/sav-lion23.jpg

this cat was apparently eating local wildlife.

The shooter? Bungalow Billiam

What a man.

The Lion should have eaten both of them.

>What a man.

it’s a lovely picture

Tau.Neutrino said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The_observer said:

!http://africatrophyhunting.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/sav-lion23.jpg

this cat was apparently eating local wildlife.

The shooter? Bungalow Billiam

What a man.

The Lion should have eaten both of them.

But not in one go, that would have been asking a bit much.

The_observer said:

this cat was apparently eating local wildlife.

The shooter? Bungalow Billiam

You could a least respect a hunter if they took the animal on in hand to hand combat armed with a melee weapon and won

Cymek said:

You could a least respect a hunter if they took the animal on in hand to hand combat armed with a melee weapon and won

The Lion should have had a high powered rifle with sights as well.

Big cats are such majestic looking animals why would you want to kill one and stick it somewhere

I dont think much of assholes who shoot lions.

Why not capture the lion and then put it an an area where there is abundant natural wildlife?

Tau.Neutrino said:

I dont think much of assholes who shoot lions.

Why not capture the lion and then put it an an area where there is abundant natural wildlife?

Or relocate it to a lion park?

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I dont think much of assholes who shoot lions.

Why not capture the lion and then put it an an area where there is abundant natural wildlife?

Or relocate it to a lion park?

Good point

The_observer said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I dont think much of assholes who shoot lions.

Why not capture the lion and then put it an an area where there is abundant natural wildlife?

Or relocate it to a lion park?

Good point

It brings up another reason why an intelligent alien species would not visit humanity, because dimwits with guns perform destructive acts rather than be positive and relocate the animal.

Tau.Neutrino said:

The_observer said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Or relocate it to a lion park?

Good point

It brings up another reason why an intelligent alien species would not visit humanity, because dimwits with guns perform destructive acts rather than be positive and relocate the animal.

Could not have said that better myself

The_observer said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The_observer said:

Good point

It brings up another reason why an intelligent alien species would not visit humanity, because dimwits with guns perform destructive acts rather than be positive and relocate the animal.

Could not have said that better myself

And humans would clamour to get knowledge or technology from them to get an advantage over others

Tau.Neutrino said:

I dont think much of assholes who shoot lions.

Why not capture the lion and then put it an an area where there is abundant natural wildlife?

Where is this magical place?

One ponders the energy the fat bastard wasted getting there and back.

Cymek said:

The_observer said:

Cage Trapping feral cats & rats

https://youtu.be/HE5k7WL6j5c

Is it practical with millions of them though especially if they are wary of traps

There is a new trap known as the cat “grooming” trap. It has built-in sensors and when it identifies a cat, it sprays poison which the cat then licks off.

It’s not perfect, but improving, and resets itself 20 times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcNvBiNr9ok&feature=youtu.be

>It brings up another reason why an intelligent alien species would not visit humanity, because dimwits with guns perform destructive acts rather than be positive and relocate the animal.

not something I fantasize about much, being visited by aliens, but on that subject I see the big fella in the picture’s getting it in the arse.

PermeateFree said:

I have been after a feral cat for some time, I had caught her kitten (juvenile and semi-independent) a couple of weeks ago, but could not catch the adult. So I had taken to carrying the shotgun with me when I gave the dog her pre-bedtime walk, but tonight I forgot to take the gun and as fate would have it I spotted the cat’s eyes looking back at me from a Banksia, a couple of metres off the ground. I cursed myself for not bringing the gun, but quickly turned away and walked on as if I had not seen her and made my way home for the gun. Instead of taking the shortest route back to the cat, I took the long way around so as not to frighten her and to my joy, she was still there.

I took aim at her eyes, being the only part of her I could see, but just before I pulled the trigger, she moved and I could no longer see them, but having lost a number of my native animals to her I decided to shoot where I had last seen her and you beauty, I got her, and she fell to the ground and when I heard the back legs kicking I knew it was fatal. I sent the dog in to locate her, then climbed in behind, the bush being very dense with hanging Banksia branches and a tangle mass of dead branches on the ground. I expected a smaller cat, but she was quite large, a typical grey tabby and in excellent condition. So the evening for me and the dog ended on a very high note.

How did you know it was a cat rather than a native animal?

Speedy said:

Cymek said:

The_observer said:

Cage Trapping feral cats & rats

https://youtu.be/HE5k7WL6j5c

Is it practical with millions of them though especially if they are wary of traps

There is a new trap known as the cat “grooming” trap. It has built-in sensors and when it identifies a cat, it sprays poison which the cat then licks off.

It’s not perfect, but improving, and resets itself 20 times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcNvBiNr9ok&feature=youtu.be

Could improve feral cat traps with live baiting but that may not be considered humane for the live bait.

Speedy said:

PermeateFree said:

I have been after a feral cat for some time, I had caught her kitten (juvenile and semi-independent) a couple of weeks ago, but could not catch the adult. So I had taken to carrying the shotgun with me when I gave the dog her pre-bedtime walk, but tonight I forgot to take the gun and as fate would have it I spotted the cat’s eyes looking back at me from a Banksia, a couple of metres off the ground. I cursed myself for not bringing the gun, but quickly turned away and walked on as if I had not seen her and made my way home for the gun. Instead of taking the shortest route back to the cat, I took the long way around so as not to frighten her and to my joy, she was still there.

I took aim at her eyes, being the only part of her I could see, but just before I pulled the trigger, she moved and I could no longer see them, but having lost a number of my native animals to her I decided to shoot where I had last seen her and you beauty, I got her, and she fell to the ground and when I heard the back legs kicking I knew it was fatal. I sent the dog in to locate her, then climbed in behind, the bush being very dense with hanging Banksia branches and a tangle mass of dead branches on the ground. I expected a smaller cat, but she was quite large, a typical grey tabby and in excellent condition. So the evening for me and the dog ended on a very high note.

How did you know it was a cat rather than a native animal?

The only animal around here of that size and with highly reflective eyes, plus climbs trees is a cat. We don’t have possums here, they are in the southwest to Perth area.

PermeateFree said:

The only animal around here of that size and with highly reflective eyes, plus climbs trees is a cat. We don’t have possums here, they are in the southwest to Perth area.

I thought possums were almost everywhere :)

PermeateFree said:

Speedy said:

PermeateFree said:

I have been after a feral cat for some time, I had caught her kitten (juvenile and semi-independent) a couple of weeks ago, but could not catch the adult. So I had taken to carrying the shotgun with me when I gave the dog her pre-bedtime walk, but tonight I forgot to take the gun and as fate would have it I spotted the cat’s eyes looking back at me from a Banksia, a couple of metres off the ground. I cursed myself for not bringing the gun, but quickly turned away and walked on as if I had not seen her and made my way home for the gun. Instead of taking the shortest route back to the cat, I took the long way around so as not to frighten her and to my joy, she was still there.

I took aim at her eyes, being the only part of her I could see, but just before I pulled the trigger, she moved and I could no longer see them, but having lost a number of my native animals to her I decided to shoot where I had last seen her and you beauty, I got her, and she fell to the ground and when I heard the back legs kicking I knew it was fatal. I sent the dog in to locate her, then climbed in behind, the bush being very dense with hanging Banksia branches and a tangle mass of dead branches on the ground. I expected a smaller cat, but she was quite large, a typical grey tabby and in excellent condition. So the evening for me and the dog ended on a very high note.

How did you know it was a cat rather than a native animal?

The only animal around here of that size and with highly reflective eyes, plus climbs trees is a cat. We don’t have possums here, they are in the southwest to Perth area.

A shotty is a bit over the top. I like a .22 hollowpoint hushpower. Aim between the eyes always works instantly.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Speedy said:

How did you know it was a cat rather than a native animal?

The only animal around here of that size and with highly reflective eyes, plus climbs trees is a cat. We don’t have possums here, they are in the southwest to Perth area.

A shotty is a bit over the top. I like a .22 hollowpoint hushpower. Aim between the eyes always works instantly.

Possum eyes and cats eyes are entirely different.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Speedy said:

How did you know it was a cat rather than a native animal?

The only animal around here of that size and with highly reflective eyes, plus climbs trees is a cat. We don’t have possums here, they are in the southwest to Perth area.

A shotty is a bit over the top. I like a .22 hollowpoint hushpower. Aim between the eyes always works instantly.

you forgot the bit about digging the hole first…

Speedy said:

PermeateFree said:

The only animal around here of that size and with highly reflective eyes, plus climbs trees is a cat. We don’t have possums here, they are in the southwest to Perth area.

I thought possums were almost everywhere :)

There is evidence that when Eyre and Wylie traveled from SA to Albany WA, Wylie caught 2 ringtail possums, but these have disappeared long ago. Probably killed off by feral animals and inappropriate fire management that resulted in large bushfires.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Speedy said:

How did you know it was a cat rather than a native animal?

The only animal around here of that size and with highly reflective eyes, plus climbs trees is a cat. We don’t have possums here, they are in the southwest to Perth area.

A shotty is a bit over the top. I like a .22 hollowpoint hushpower. Aim between the eyes always works instantly.

I don’t do it for sport, but to get rid of the cat.

PermeateFree said:

Speedy said:

PermeateFree said:

The only animal around here of that size and with highly reflective eyes, plus climbs trees is a cat. We don’t have possums here, they are in the southwest to Perth area.

I thought possums were almost everywhere :)

There is evidence that when Eyre and Wylie traveled from SA to Albany WA, Wylie caught 2 ringtail possums, but these have disappeared long ago. Probably killed off by feral animals and inappropriate fire management that resulted in large bushfires.

Caught them around Mt Ragged.

stumpy_seahorse said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

The only animal around here of that size and with highly reflective eyes, plus climbs trees is a cat. We don’t have possums here, they are in the southwest to Perth area.

A shotty is a bit over the top. I like a .22 hollowpoint hushpower. Aim between the eyes always works instantly.

you forgot the bit about digging the hole first…

That’s daytime stuff.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Speedy said:

How did you know it was a cat rather than a native animal?

The only animal around here of that size and with highly reflective eyes, plus climbs trees is a cat. We don’t have possums here, they are in the southwest to Perth area.

A shotty is a bit over the top. I like a .22 hollowpoint hushpower. Aim between the eyes always works instantly.

Sometimes it is a case of using the tools you have available.

PermeateFree said:

Speedy said:

PermeateFree said:

The only animal around here of that size and with highly reflective eyes, plus climbs trees is a cat. We don’t have possums here, they are in the southwest to Perth area.

I thought possums were almost everywhere :)

There is evidence that when Eyre and Wylie traveled from SA to Albany WA, Wylie caught 2 ringtail possums, but these have disappeared long ago. Probably killed off by feral animals and inappropriate fire management that resulted in large bushfires.

There were also stick nest rats.

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

The only animal around here of that size and with highly reflective eyes, plus climbs trees is a cat. We don’t have possums here, they are in the southwest to Perth area.

A shotty is a bit over the top. I like a .22 hollowpoint hushpower. Aim between the eyes always works instantly.

I don’t do it for sport, but to get rid of the cat.

I’ve never missed the cat, unfact I only ever load the one bullet.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Speedy said:

I thought possums were almost everywhere :)

There is evidence that when Eyre and Wylie traveled from SA to Albany WA, Wylie caught 2 ringtail possums, but these have disappeared long ago. Probably killed off by feral animals and inappropriate fire management that resulted in large bushfires.

There were also stick nest rats.

Think they were further inland and disappeared a long time ago too.

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

The only animal around here of that size and with highly reflective eyes, plus climbs trees is a cat. We don’t have possums here, they are in the southwest to Perth area.

A shotty is a bit over the top. I like a .22 hollowpoint hushpower. Aim between the eyes always works instantly.

Sometimes it is a case of using the tools you have available.

this be quite true.

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

There is evidence that when Eyre and Wylie traveled from SA to Albany WA, Wylie caught 2 ringtail possums, but these have disappeared long ago. Probably killed off by feral animals and inappropriate fire management that resulted in large bushfires.

There were also stick nest rats.

Think they were further inland and disappeared a long time ago too.

THey did disappear a long time ago.

roughbarked said:

I’ve never missed the cat, unfact I only ever load the one bullet.

Yep.

Hello to any cats reading this thread.

I’m not with them.

Turn their bins over, or eat their chickens.

AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

I’ve never missed the cat, unfact I only ever load the one bullet.

Yep.

I was hoping that you were around :)

this cat was also apparently eating local wildlife.

The_observer said:

this cat was also apparently eating local wildlife.

Trust you to continually showing the African native fauna being slaughtered to satisfy your crass sense of humor. You are not funny Observer, just very, very stupid and showing equally stupid people getting their highs.

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

this cat was also apparently eating local wildlife.

Trust you to continually showing the African native fauna being slaughtered to satisfy your crass sense of humor. You are not funny Observer, just very, very stupid and showing equally stupid people getting their highs.

? have I touched a nerve William?

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

this cat was also apparently eating local wildlife.

Trust you to continually showing the African native fauna being slaughtered to satisfy your crass sense of humor. You are not funny Observer, just very, very stupid and showing equally stupid people getting their highs.

Speaking of getting your highs with stupid people, she is quite cute.

The_observer said:

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

this cat was also apparently eating local wildlife.

Trust you to continually showing the African native fauna being slaughtered to satisfy your crass sense of humor. You are not funny Observer, just very, very stupid and showing equally stupid people getting their highs.

? have I touched a nerve William?

anyhow, I might just quietly go and do the washing up.

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

PermeateFree said:

Trust you to continually showing the African native fauna being slaughtered to satisfy your crass sense of humor. You are not funny Observer, just very, very stupid and showing equally stupid people getting their highs.

? have I touched a nerve William?

Really William; there was no need for that!

The_observer said:

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

? have I touched a nerve William?

Really William; there was no need for that!

Big cats think you talk bollocks too.

party_pants said:

PermeateFree said:

The_observer said:

this cat was also apparently eating local wildlife.

Trust you to continually showing the African native fauna being slaughtered to satisfy your crass sense of humor. You are not funny Observer, just very, very stupid and showing equally stupid people getting their highs.

Speaking of getting your highs with stupid people, she is quite cute.

If she leaves her guns at home.

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

PermeateFree said:

Trust you to continually showing the African native fauna being slaughtered to satisfy your crass sense of humor. You are not funny Observer, just very, very stupid and showing equally stupid people getting their highs.

Speaking of getting your highs with stupid people, she is quite cute.

If she leaves her guns at home.

I’d like to tie her up in lion country and leave her there.

this shark was apparently eating local wildlife!

The_observer said:

this shark was apparently eating local wildlife!

Observer, all indigenous predators eat indigenous prey (the local wildlife), as against introduced predators (like cats and foxes in Australia) eating the indigenous animals. It is your ignorance of these small simple facts that make you so stupid. Instead of trolling around here, why don’t you read a few books on the wildlife ecology, then you might not say so many stupid things.

The_observer said:

this shark was apparently eating local wildlife!

I’d just like to point out that no animals were harmed in any way during the creation of this concept.

Howver, most animals did leave the room.

The_observer said:

this shark was apparently eating local wildlife!

Looks like The Observer jumped the shark

ruby said:

The_observer said:

this shark was apparently eating local wildlife!

Looks like The Observer jumped the shark

LOL 10 / 10

Isnt that “primus”

ruby said:

The_observer said:

this shark was apparently eating local wildlife!

Looks like The Observer jumped the shark

He apparently has strange sexual fetishes.

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

The_observer said:

this shark was apparently eating local wildlife!

Looks like The Observer jumped the shark

He apparently has strange sexual fetishes.

fetfishes

fixed

ruby said:

The_observer said:

this shark was apparently eating local wildlife!

Looks like The Observer jumped the shark

Amusing response.
Disturbing picture.

party_pants said:

ruby said:

The_observer said:

this shark was apparently eating local wildlife!

Looks like The Observer jumped the shark

Amusing response.
Disturbing picture.

yes too true