Date: 26/07/2017 17:25:36
From: Speedy
ID: 1094523
Subject: Mystery bush tracks

Yesterday I went for a bushwalk nearby and startled a fledgling Rainbow Lorikeet which had been roosting in a shrub near the track. It landed the creek below, but managed to swim to the other side, climb up the embankment then up into some sedge grass. I had difficulty making my way to the edge of the creek to observe it, as it was so overgrown, but eventually managed to find a way through the bush and spiderwebs to observe it for a little while. It seemed OK, so I left it there.

In the evening I returned to check on it and was surprised to find that it had somehow crossed the creek again and returned to its original shrub, albeit on a twig almost touching the ground. It was whistling and screeching and I could see adult (parent?) lorikeets nearby. They were warring with currawongs. Speedy Jnr suggested we take the lorikeet home, but I figured it probably had a 50% chance of survival if we left it there, otherwise it likely faced a lifetime in captivity. We left it there.

Today I returned and found a pile of lorikeet feathers :( which I was half expecting, but there was also a wide (40cm) clearing leading from the main track to the creek (3m long). This was definitely not there yesterday. It looked like someone had dragged a heavy object through the scrub, bending and breaking the undergrowth. The feathers were on top of this clearing. The only animal I can think of that could do this is a feral pig, but AFAIK, we don’t have those here.

How else could this have happened?

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:27:18
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1094525
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

Failed attempt at crop circle. Or, someone trying to hide a body.

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:28:42
From: Speedy
ID: 1094526
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

Divine Angel said:


Failed attempt at crop circle. Or, someone trying to hide a body.

Hehe. I must admit I followed the tracks to the creek and looked into the water, just in case.

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:34:12
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1094527
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

I’d bet on feral pigs.

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:37:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1094529
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

You probably have got feral pigs then. Did you look for evidence of rooting about in the damp earth by the creek?

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:44:21
From: party_pants
ID: 1094531
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

Did you not accidentally make the clearing and path yourself in your attempts to observe the bird yesterday? Perhaps the grass didn’t just spring back into position as you thought it might, and the impact looks greater today than it did yesterday.

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:47:28
From: Speedy
ID: 1094533
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

roughbarked said:


You probably have got feral pigs then. Did you look for evidence of rooting about in the damp earth by the creek?

Not really. There are sometimes small dug-out areas along these tracks, but I always assumed they were likely from Brush Turkeys or the occasional echidna.

We definitely have cats and foxes here (NW Sydney) but I didn’t think we would have pigs.

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:48:45
From: Speedy
ID: 1094534
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

party_pants said:


Did you not accidentally make the clearing and path yourself in your attempts to observe the bird yesterday? Perhaps the grass didn’t just spring back into position as you thought it might, and the impact looks greater today than it did yesterday.

No. I actually reached the bank further downstream and trod very carefully when I did. This ground looked like it had been scraped.

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:51:41
From: Speedy
ID: 1094537
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

Would a pig eat a bird?

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:52:03
From: furious
ID: 1094538
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

Poor bird. Must have been hit by a meteorite…

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:52:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1094539
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

Speedy said:


party_pants said:

Did you not accidentally make the clearing and path yourself in your attempts to observe the bird yesterday? Perhaps the grass didn’t just spring back into position as you thought it might, and the impact looks greater today than it did yesterday.

No. I actually reached the bank further downstream and trod very carefully when I did. This ground looked like it had been scraped.

crocodile?

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:55:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1094541
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

Speedy said:


roughbarked said:

You probably have got feral pigs then. Did you look for evidence of rooting about in the damp earth by the creek?

Not really. There are sometimes small dug-out areas along these tracks, but I always assumed they were likely from Brush Turkeys or the occasional echidna.

We definitely have cats and foxes here (NW Sydney) but I didn’t think we would have pigs.

Echidna and pig diggings are distinctly different and recognisable once you have seen them. Brush turkeys are a bit like big chooks.

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:55:47
From: party_pants
ID: 1094542
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

I’m all out of ideas then. Perhapsit two events, like it was a feral cat that ate the bird, and just by coincidence some kangaroos came by and chose that very same spot to rest of a while.

Or it could have been a sabre-tooth cat.

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:56:41
From: Speedy
ID: 1094543
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

roughbarked said:


Speedy said:

party_pants said:

Did you not accidentally make the clearing and path yourself in your attempts to observe the bird yesterday? Perhaps the grass didn’t just spring back into position as you thought it might, and the impact looks greater today than it did yesterday.

No. I actually reached the bank further downstream and trod very carefully when I did. This ground looked like it had been scraped.

crocodile?

Funny you say that. When I was standing at the edge of the creek peering into the water, this did occur to me. Honestly, the track looked like it could have been from a croc. Too cold for one here though.

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:56:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 1094544
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

Speedy said:


Would a pig eat a bird?

Pigs eat anything. I doubt they’d worry about plucking it though. The scraped track and the bird feathers may yet be unrelated though.

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:57:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1094545
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

furious said:

  • It looked like someone had dragged a heavy object through the scrub, bending and breaking the undergrowth. The feathers were on top of this clearing

Poor bird. Must have been hit by a meteorite…

….

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:58:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1094546
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

Speedy said:


roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

No. I actually reached the bank further downstream and trod very carefully when I did. This ground looked like it had been scraped.

crocodile?

Funny you say that. When I was standing at the edge of the creek peering into the water, this did occur to me. Honestly, the track looked like it could have been from a croc. Too cold for one here though.

We have climate change now.

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:58:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1094547
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

As far as I know, platypus don’t eat small birds.

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Date: 26/07/2017 17:59:20
From: Speedy
ID: 1094548
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

party_pants said:


I’m all out of ideas then. Perhapsit two events, like it was a feral cat that ate the bird, and just by coincidence some kangaroos came by and chose that very same spot to rest of a while.

Or it could have been a sabre-tooth cat.

Actually, yes, we do have swamp wallabies here. I forgot about those. They could have made the track….then the lori was eaten by a cat/fox. What’s the chance of that?!?

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Date: 26/07/2017 18:00:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1094549
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

Speedy said:


party_pants said:

I’m all out of ideas then. Perhapsit two events, like it was a feral cat that ate the bird, and just by coincidence some kangaroos came by and chose that very same spot to rest of a while.

Or it could have been a sabre-tooth cat.

Actually, yes, we do have swamp wallabies here. I forgot about those. They could have made the track….then the lori was eaten by a cat/fox. What’s the chance of that?!?

Sounds likely.

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Date: 26/07/2017 18:02:41
From: sibeen
ID: 1094550
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

Goanna?

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Date: 26/07/2017 18:04:10
From: Speedy
ID: 1094551
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

roughbarked said:


Speedy said:

party_pants said:

I’m all out of ideas then. Perhapsit two events, like it was a feral cat that ate the bird, and just by coincidence some kangaroos came by and chose that very same spot to rest of a while.

Or it could have been a sabre-tooth cat.

Actually, yes, we do have swamp wallabies here. I forgot about those. They could have made the track….then the lori was eaten by a cat/fox. What’s the chance of that?!?

Sounds likely.

Okay, question has been answered. I’m happy enough with that. Thanks all.

FWIW, I will not be telling Speedy Jnr about today’s find or I’ll never hear the end of it.

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Date: 26/07/2017 18:07:06
From: Speedy
ID: 1094552
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

sibeen said:


Goanna?

It’s possible. I’ve seen them about 2km away in the same stretch of bushland.

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Date: 26/07/2017 18:08:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1094553
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

sibeen said:


Goanna?

someone is thinking.

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Date: 26/07/2017 18:09:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1094554
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

Speedy said:


sibeen said:

Goanna?

It’s possible. I’ve seen them about 2km away in the same stretch of bushland.

Don’t think they’d bother plucking the bird though.

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Date: 26/07/2017 18:12:42
From: Speedy
ID: 1094556
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

roughbarked said:


Speedy said:

sibeen said:

Goanna?

It’s possible. I’ve seen them about 2km away in the same stretch of bushland.

Don’t think they’d bother plucking the bird though.

It wasn’t plucked. I found a clump of feathers from a small part of the bird and this clump had spread.

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Date: 26/07/2017 18:15:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1094557
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

Speedy said:


roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

It’s possible. I’ve seen them about 2km away in the same stretch of bushland.

Don’t think they’d bother plucking the bird though.

It wasn’t plucked. I found a clump of feathers from a small part of the bird and this clump had spread.

Don’t discount a sparrowhawk for eating the bird.

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Date: 26/07/2017 18:28:16
From: The_observer
ID: 1094560
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

Yeh, probably a wild dog, a Labrador with hip displacement, scavenging around in its twilight years.

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Date: 26/07/2017 20:57:49
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1094634
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

Feather scatter is usually distinctive of the predator. A cat will remove many feathers and they will be spread over a metre or two, while a fox will usually only dislodge a few where the actual kill was made and then it will carry it off.

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Date: 26/07/2017 21:02:26
From: Speedy
ID: 1094636
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

PermeateFree said:


Feather scatter is usually distinctive of the predator. A cat will remove many feathers and they will be spread over a metre or two, while a fox will usually only dislodge a few where the actual kill was made and then it will carry it off.

If it was either of these, it was a fox. Thanks PM.

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Date: 27/07/2017 21:30:00
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1095032
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

My bets are that it was larry

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Date: 27/07/2017 21:31:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1095036
Subject: re: Mystery bush tracks

wookiemeister said:


My bets are that it was larry

Larry Hagman?

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