Date: 22/08/2017 08:38:28
From: The_observer
ID: 1107340
Subject: Leftist social engineering - merit out the window

Last week the Australian Institute of Family Studies reported on the career ambitions of 14- and 15-year olds.

It found that the top five occupations teenage boys wanted to pursue were: engineering/transport, information technology, construction, automotive trades and sports.
None of these careers featured on the girls’ list, which was dominated by medicine, teaching, the law, personal services and performing arts.

While males and females are of equal intelligence and aptitude in life, they have different interests and vocational preferences.

This is the point a Google software engineer, James Damore, made recently in a memo that has generated huge debate.
He said men tend to be interested in “things” (objects and systems) while women are more interested in “people” (social interaction and relationships).

He argued that Google’s diversity agenda, in trying to recruit more women into software engineering, could only succeed if it became more “people-oriented”.
Crude affirmative action policies, such as gender quotas and watering down training and testing standards, were likely to hurt the organisation.

For his troubles, Damore was sacked, with Google’s CEO Sundar Pichai declaring he had “crossed the line by advocating harmful gender stereotypes in our workplace”.

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Date: 22/08/2017 08:39:15
From: The_observer
ID: 1107341
Subject: re: Leftist social engineering - merit out the window

Apparently Google wants diversity of race, gender and sexuality among its workers, but not diversity of opinion.
Damore has criticised his old employer as an “ideological echo chamber”, a “cult-like” environment in which rational, evidence-based thinking has been replaced by the new Leftist religion of identity politics.
“political bias” of Google’s staff had also spilt over into their management of public information access.
We can no longer trust the company’s search engines, trending lists and algorithms to be politically impartial. This is a huge concern.
None of us want government control of the internet.
But the Damore controversy has shown how Silicon Valley is using software engineering to create Leftist social engineering.

Damore’s sacking also raises questions about the credibility of corporate “diversity” agendas.
Given the varying career ambitions of males and females, if women are shoehorned into jobs where they have below-average interest and commitment, corporate performance will suffer.

Meritocracy is not a difficult concept to understand.

Organisations that recruit people on merit end up with the best staff and best outcomes.
One of the puzzles of modern corporate Australia is why so many companies have deviated from this principle.

Independent economic studies have found that diversity-for-diversity’s-sake weakens performance and profitability.

It hires people, not for their ability, but their skin colour, gender and sexuality.

It lowers workplace morale and corporate focus, creating a cohort of second-class workers recruited for reasons other than talent.

Last week I contacted five large Australian businesses, so-called diversity champions in Qantas, Westpac, Telstra, Australia Post and PricewaterhouseCoopers.
None of them objected to the sacking of James Damore.
None of them defended his free speech or employment rights.
And no less tellingly, none of them produced any evidence of how “diversity” had assisted their bottom-line.

They gave me the impression they had embraced this agenda as the equivalent of religion, as something to be worshipped without reason or external review.
The cult of diversity has captured large parts of corporate Australia.

How has this happened?

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Date: 22/08/2017 08:41:31
From: The_observer
ID: 1107342
Subject: re: Leftist social engineering - merit out the window

I met with the owners of a medium-sized financial company and they had a pointed, clear-headed explanation.

“Diversity started out as an attempt by some big companies to soften their image”, one said.
“None of the CEOs like being attacked as greedy capitalists, so they used diversity as a shield, as corporate virtue signalling”.

Another argued: “These businesses are usually in oligopoly markets where making money is easy, so financially they can afford to carry the indulgence of diversity and overstaffed diversity units.”

“The big banks, for example, don’t really compete against each other, they’re government guaranteed.”
“Wait for the next recession, the diversity units will be the first ones sacked.”

Then I received a vivid account of how much small- to medium-sized businesses despise the diversity agenda.
“Every business we deal with thinks it’s rubbish, and the small guys can’t afford it anyway.”
“Job applicants are always different, so if you are serious about making a dollar you have no choice but to hire the best people available.”
“The big corporates are at war with this reality.”
It was a great discussion.

Not only do we need new Federal parliamentary laws to restore Australian meritocracy.
We also need a new round of fierce market competition to wipe out the indulgences of corporate socialism and faux diversity.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/mark-latham-diversity-brigade-kicks-merit-out-the-window/news-story/c7df43367f1fcc6d78d4b5e6cb3cec5d

“Australian Army bans male recruits to get female numbers up”:http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/australian-army-bans-male-recruits-to-get-female-numbers-up/news-story/69ee9dc1d4f8836e9cca7ca2e3e5680a

“Fire brigade relaxes strength and fitness test to make entry easier for women”:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1375381/Fire-service-strength-fitness-tests-relaxed-allow-women-firefighters.html

“Australian employers could soon be forced to employ more women”:http://honey.nine.com.au/2017/05/01/06/31/gender-balance-state-government-contractors-forced-to-hire-more-women

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Date: 22/08/2017 10:19:12
From: Cymek
ID: 1107361
Subject: re: Leftist social engineering - merit out the window

Do women have to act like sociopathic type men, bullying, backstabbing to get the top jobs when perhaps what’s needed is a different point of view as the top jobs care about profit first and people and everything else second which is inherently self destructive.

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Date: 22/08/2017 10:52:24
From: The_observer
ID: 1107379
Subject: re: Leftist social engineering - merit out the window

Cymek said:


Do women have to act like sociopathic type men, bullying, backstabbing to get the top jobs when perhaps what’s needed is a different point of view as the top jobs care about profit first and people and everything else second which is inherently self destructive.

I found bullying & back stabbing to be prolific in netball at all levels among woman.

I could only imagine what a feminine corporate world would be like.

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Date: 22/08/2017 11:00:17
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1107381
Subject: re: Leftist social engineering - merit out the window

The_observer said:


Cymek said:

Do women have to act like sociopathic type men, bullying, backstabbing to get the top jobs when perhaps what’s needed is a different point of view as the top jobs care about profit first and people and everything else second which is inherently self destructive.

I found bullying & back stabbing to be prolific in netball at all levels among woman.

I could only imagine what a feminine corporate world would be like.

Same as a male corporate world, bullying and backstabbing to promote oneself to the top job.

Then once CEO, greed dictates their behavior, and they award themselves million dollar salaries.

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Date: 22/08/2017 11:10:04
From: Cymek
ID: 1107386
Subject: re: Leftist social engineering - merit out the window

Tau.Neutrino said:


The_observer said:

Cymek said:

Do women have to act like sociopathic type men, bullying, backstabbing to get the top jobs when perhaps what’s needed is a different point of view as the top jobs care about profit first and people and everything else second which is inherently self destructive.

I found bullying & back stabbing to be prolific in netball at all levels among woman.

I could only imagine what a feminine corporate world would be like.

Same as a male corporate world, bullying and backstabbing to promote oneself to the top job.

Then once CEO, greed dictates their behavior, and they award themselves million dollar salaries.

So nothing changes then

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Date: 22/08/2017 11:13:47
From: The_observer
ID: 1107390
Subject: re: Leftist social engineering - merit out the window

Tau.Neutrino said:


The_observer said:

Cymek said:

Do women have to act like sociopathic type men, bullying, backstabbing to get the top jobs when perhaps what’s needed is a different point of view as the top jobs care about profit first and people and everything else second which is inherently self destructive.

I found bullying & back stabbing to be prolific in netball at all levels among woman.

I could only imagine what a feminine corporate world would be like.

Same as a male corporate world, bullying and backstabbing to promote oneself to the top job.

Then once CEO, greed dictates their behavior, and they award themselves million dollar salaries.

Just as the commissars did. There’s greed no matter the political structure.

And ghis thread isn’t about capitalism

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Date: 22/08/2017 11:18:47
From: Cymek
ID: 1107397
Subject: re: Leftist social engineering - merit out the window

He argued that Google’s diversity agenda, in trying to recruit more women into software engineering, could only succeed if it became more “people-oriented”.
Crude affirmative action policies, such as gender quotas and watering down training and testing standards, were likely to hurt the organisation.

Dumbing down training and testing standards isn’t a good idea even just for the fact in could create resentment amongst those that passed the more rigorous standards.

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Date: 22/08/2017 11:23:05
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1107402
Subject: re: Leftist social engineering - merit out the window

Cymek said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

The_observer said:

I found bullying & back stabbing to be prolific in netball at all levels among woman.

I could only imagine what a feminine corporate world would be like.

Same as a male corporate world, bullying and backstabbing to promote oneself to the top job.

Then once CEO, greed dictates their behavior, and they award themselves million dollar salaries.

So nothing changes then

After saying that, I realized I don’t know, I found some interesting articles, nothing conclusive about behavior.

Fewer women run top Australian companies than men named John — or Peter, or David

Women are better leaders than men, study of 3,000 managers concludes | The Independent

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Date: 22/08/2017 11:33:09
From: dv
ID: 1107411
Subject: re: Leftist social engineering - merit out the window

Hyperentitled heir elected President – merit out the window

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Date: 22/08/2017 11:34:42
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1107413
Subject: re: Leftist social engineering - merit out the window

Tau.Neutrino said:


Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Same as a male corporate world, bullying and backstabbing to promote oneself to the top job.

Then once CEO, greed dictates their behavior, and they award themselves million dollar salaries.

So nothing changes then

After saying that, I realized I don’t know, I found some interesting articles, nothing conclusive about behavior.

Fewer women run top Australian companies than men named John — or Peter, or David

Women are better leaders than men, study of 3,000 managers concludes | The Independent

another article

Who Makes A Better Leader: A Man Or A Woman?

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Date: 22/08/2017 12:00:12
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1107425
Subject: re: Leftist social engineering - merit out the window

dv said:


Hyperentitled heir elected President – merit down the toilet, shat on and flushed.

fixed

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Date: 22/08/2017 12:39:20
From: The_observer
ID: 1107463
Subject: re: Leftist social engineering - merit out the window

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Hyperentitled heir elected President – merit down the toilet, shat on and flushed.

fixed

what? do you and the other troll, dv, have top turn everything into a Trump thread.

very unhealthy obsession

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Date: 22/08/2017 12:44:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1107466
Subject: re: Leftist social engineering - merit out the window

The_observer said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Hyperentitled heir elected President – merit down the toilet, shat on and flushed.

fixed

what? do you and the other troll, dv, have top turn everything into a Trump thread.

very unhealthy obsession

I think you are the one with the unhealthy obsession. I haven’t seen one post from you putting shit on the fascists. Everything according to you is the fault of so called leftists who by the way would prefer to be called right.

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Date: 22/08/2017 12:52:05
From: The_observer
ID: 1107469
Subject: re: Leftist social engineering - merit out the window

roughbarked said:


The_observer said:

Bubblecar said:

fixed

what? do you and the other troll, dv, have top turn everything into a Trump thread.

very unhealthy obsession

I think you are the one with the unhealthy obsession. I haven’t seen one post from you putting shit on the fascists. Everything according to you is the fault of so called leftists who by the way would prefer to be called right.

Gotta step in for them rough. and here you were yesterday telling me you don’t take sides?

There’s plenty here demouncing the nazis. i’ve denounced the so called nazis 3 times on this forum.

But no one here has denounced the violent behaviour of the terrorist group Antifa, who are commies & target anyone on the right.

That seems to be my job. Especially when there are scum here, like the leftwing extremist dv who supports Antifas violence.

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Date: 22/08/2017 12:59:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1107473
Subject: re: Leftist social engineering - merit out the window

I don’t take sides and the good people here aren’t scum.

Anyone can denounce Hitler’s Nazi’s because they are only present in History. Fascists exist in the modern world but unless they say they are rejuvenating Hitlers fascists then they are simply another form of fascism.

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