Date: 6/09/2017 08:15:20
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1114261
Subject: Florence

Radar Reveals Two Moons Orbiting Giant Asteroid Florence

Radar Reveals Two Moons Orbiting Giant Asteroid Florence

Potentially Hazardous Asteroid “Florence” passes by – captured with amateur telescope

LIVE! ASTEROIDE FLORENCE 3122

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Date: 6/09/2017 08:36:26
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1114266
Subject: re: Florence

I wonder if the universe has a object going around it?

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Date: 6/09/2017 09:10:57
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1114269
Subject: re: Florence

Tau.Neutrino said:


I wonder if the universe has a object going around it?

It’s universes all the way up.

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Date: 6/09/2017 10:53:17
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1114279
Subject: re: Florence

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

I wonder if the universe has a object going around it?

It’s universes all the way up.

A brane?
A boltzmann brain “seeing stars”?

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Date: 6/09/2017 11:02:48
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1114284
Subject: re: Florence

Tau.Neutrino said:

Radar Reveals Two Moons Orbiting Giant Asteroid Florence

Radar Reveals Two Moons Orbiting Giant Asteroid Florence

Potentially Hazardous Asteroid “Florence” passes by – captured with amateur telescope

LIVE! ASTEROIDE FLORENCE 3122

Good work. Distance .049 AU was close enough to the Goldstone radar to work. What’s the greatest distance it works at?

Is this only the second asteroid known to have a moon? After Ida with moon Dactyl.

Conversation with miss m
Me: “Two new moons have just been discovered”
Her: “Where?”
Me: “Florence”
Her: – pulls face.

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Date: 6/09/2017 11:14:55
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1114287
Subject: re: Florence

> Is this only the second asteroid known to have a moon? After Ida with moon Dactyl.

No. There are more.

243 Ida has moon Dactyl
87 Sylvia has moons Romulus and Remus,
22 Kalliope has moon Linus,
45 Eugenia has moons Petit-Prince and S/2004 (45) 1
216 Kleopatra has moons Alexhelios and Cleoselene

With names Florence, Ida, Sylvia, Eugenia and Cleopatra it’s starting to sound like a country women’s association meeting.
Or a collection of tropical cyclones.

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Date: 6/09/2017 11:23:32
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1114289
Subject: re: Florence

> Good work. Distance .049 AU was close enough to the Goldstone radar to work. What’s the greatest distance it works at?

This distance. So for Florence at 4.5 km diameter and distance 0.049 AU, the signal to noise ratio is about 2000. For its moons the signal to noise ratio is about 20.

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Date: 6/09/2017 11:49:52
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1114290
Subject: re: Florence

mollwollfumble said:


> Is this only the second asteroid known to have a moon? After Ida with moon Dactyl.

No. There are more.

243 Ida has moon Dactyl
87 Sylvia has moons Romulus and Remus,
22 Kalliope has moon Linus,
45 Eugenia has moons Petit-Prince and S/2004 (45) 1
216 Kleopatra has moons Alexhelios and Cleoselene

With names Florence, Ida, Sylvia, Eugenia and Cleopatra it’s starting to sound like a country women’s association meeting.
Or a collection of tropical cyclones.

Not sure about the difference between an asteroid binary and an asteroid moon. Binary asteroids are remarkably common, including “contact binaries”. It was discovered in 2002 that about 15% of Near Earth Asteroids >200 metres in diameter are binaries. https://echo.jpl.nasa.gov/asteroids/asteroid_radar_highlights.txt

eg. This is counted as a binary asteroid rather than a moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzdSohd_xPY

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Date: 6/09/2017 14:41:57
From: dv
ID: 1114321
Subject: re: Florence

“Radar Reveals Two Moons Orbiting Giant Asteroid Florence”

I hardly think an asteroid 5 km across counts as “giant”

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Date: 6/09/2017 14:54:07
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1114327
Subject: re: Florence

dv said:


“Radar Reveals Two Moons Orbiting Giant Asteroid Florence”

I hardly think an asteroid 5 km across counts as “giant”

I wonder what the average sized asteroid is?

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Date: 6/09/2017 15:00:41
From: dv
ID: 1114332
Subject: re: Florence

Tau.Neutrino said:


dv said:

“Radar Reveals Two Moons Orbiting Giant Asteroid Florence”

I hardly think an asteroid 5 km across counts as “giant”

I wonder what the average sized asteroid is?

Smaller than 5 km, but given that the largest asteroid is about 1000 km across, and even the 100th largest is more than 100 km across, Florence won’t seem giant.

I mean a possum is bigger than most mammals but it’s still not a giant mammal.

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Date: 6/09/2017 15:08:31
From: dv
ID: 1114334
Subject: re: Florence

I got called on my mobile by Medicins sans Frontiers and they pitched me their charity deal and I signed up for a monthly amount. All good but I am concerned a bit because I was looking at their website a couple of days ago. Just seems too much of a coincidence, so IDK maybe Google sells them their hit list or something.

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Date: 6/09/2017 15:11:10
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1114335
Subject: re: Florence

dv said:


I got called on my mobile by Medicins sans Frontiers and they pitched me their charity deal and I signed up for a monthly amount. All good but I am concerned a bit because I was looking at their website a couple of days ago. Just seems too much of a coincidence, so IDK maybe Google sells them their hit list or something.

Buckle up, now that you have given money to a charity you are on everyone’s hit list, your details are being sold.

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Date: 6/09/2017 15:14:37
From: dv
ID: 1114336
Subject: re: Florence

I didn’t mean to post this in “Florence” but I’ll just pretend it was because of the Nightingale connection

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Date: 6/09/2017 15:16:44
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1114337
Subject: re: Florence

dv said:


I didn’t mean to post this in “Florence” but I’ll just pretend it was because of the Nightingale connection

It would be an amazing asteroid if it was shaped like Florence Nightingale.

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Date: 6/09/2017 15:19:20
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1114340
Subject: re: Florence

Tau.Neutrino said:


dv said:

I didn’t mean to post this in “Florence” but I’ll just pretend it was because of the Nightingale connection

It would be an amazing asteroid if it was shaped like Florence Nightingale.

I wonder who will be the first space artist to shape and sculpture an asteroid ?

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Date: 7/09/2017 07:25:02
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1114579
Subject: re: Florence

dv said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

“Radar Reveals Two Moons Orbiting Giant Asteroid Florence”

I hardly think an asteroid 5 km across counts as “giant”

I wonder what the average sized asteroid is?

Smaller than 5 km, but given that the largest asteroid is about 1000 km across, and even the 100th largest is more than 100 km across, Florence won’t seem giant.

I mean a possum is bigger than most mammals but it’s still not a giant mammal.

Bot Florence is a near-earth asteroid. For an object that comes as close as 0.049 AU from Earth, Florence is big.

I wonder. Check http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/lists/Closest.html Insufficient information. At 5 km that’s a magnitude H somewhere near 13.5. The biggest asteroid to come within 0.01 AU from Earth has H = 16.0, which corresponds to just 2 km diameter.

So Florence is a giant compared to all asteroids than have been observed to come within 0.01 AU of Earth.

Near earth asteroids are Atens, Apollos or Amors.
Florence is bigger than all 1191 Aten asteroids.

Among the 6144 Amor asteroids, the best known are
3908 Nyx 1-2 km diameter
1221 Amor 1 km diameter
1036 Ganymed 32-34 km diameter
887 Alinda 4 km diameter
719 Albert 2.4 km diameter
433 Eros 17 km diameter

Florence is an Amor asteroid. Does being possibly third largest out of 6144 Amor asteroids make it a “giant”?

There are 8837 Apollo asteroids. The largest known Apollo asteroid is 1866 Sisyphus, with a diameter of of 8.5 km.

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