Date: 8/09/2017 14:19:58
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1115180
Subject: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Lots of evidence points to sexuality determined by genetics.

heterosexuality
bisexuality
homosexuality
transsexuality
asexuality

If you don’t think genetics is the cause and dismiss all the evidence, then what is the cause?

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Date: 8/09/2017 14:23:39
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1115183
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

fuck off with this repetitive crap. actually do something if you are that concerned.

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Date: 8/09/2017 14:24:58
From: Cymek
ID: 1115184
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Tau.Neutrino said:


Lots of evidence points to sexuality determined by genetics.

heterosexuality
bisexuality
homosexuality
transsexuality
asexuality

If you don’t think genetics is the cause and dismiss all the evidence, then what is the cause?

You’d need to be careful I imagine that if genetics does play a large part in determining someone’s sexuality that its not misused (which it would be) as in they are genetically flawed or its picked up in-vetro and altered by people who think its an abnomality

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Date: 8/09/2017 14:34:58
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1115188
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

ChrispenEvan said:


fuck off with this repetitive crap. actually do something if you are that concerned.

Censorship is not scientific is it.

If you don’t like the topic, stay away.

If you cannot handle sexual diversity in nature then ask yourself why? Internal conflict?

Blame the religious politicians for dragging same sex marriage though the media.

Dont blame me.

Dont troll this thread either.

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Date: 8/09/2017 14:38:50
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1115190
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Cymek said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Lots of evidence points to sexuality determined by genetics.

heterosexuality
bisexuality
homosexuality
transsexuality
asexuality

If you don’t think genetics is the cause and dismiss all the evidence, then what is the cause?

You’d need to be careful I imagine that if genetics does play a large part in determining someone’s sexuality that its not misused (which it would be) as in they are genetically flawed or its picked up in-vetro and altered by people who think its an abnomality

Like dwarfism or people with ginger hair or giant people ?

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Date: 8/09/2017 14:41:38
From: furious
ID: 1115192
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

People have been known to abort their babies when they discovered they had some, to them, undesirable traits…

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Date: 8/09/2017 14:42:10
From: dv
ID: 1115193
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

I can’t put myself into the headspace of someone who doesn’t take evidence on board. It is now beyond doubt that there are genetic factors that predispose various sexualities.

But it has also become clear that the genetics are not completely determinative, so there are other factors. They could be epigenetic (for instance influence of maternal hormones or diet), social, cultural, or hang on specific events, relate to whether you’re the oldest or youngest child, medical history, parenting choices etc.

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Date: 8/09/2017 14:49:17
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1115195
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

furious said:

  • Like dwarfism or people with ginger hair or giant people ?

People have been known to abort their babies when they discovered they had some, to them, undesirable traits…

What if you discovered you unborn child is susceptible to crime or will become a nazi?

Nazis want the perfect race with no weaknesses

Dwarfs, and giants die.

gays, bis, trannies, asexuals all die

people with autism, spastic people quadriplegics they all die

surrealists and degenerates can all die

colored people and jews can all die

etc

verses diversity and nature

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Date: 8/09/2017 14:50:14
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1115196
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

dv said:


I can’t put myself into the headspace of someone who doesn’t take evidence on board. It is now beyond doubt that there are genetic factors that predispose various sexualities.

But it has also become clear that the genetics are not completely determinative, so there are other factors. They could be epigenetic (for instance influence of maternal hormones or diet), social, cultural, or hang on specific events, relate to whether you’re the oldest or youngest child, medical history, parenting choices etc.

Agree.

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Date: 8/09/2017 14:51:21
From: furious
ID: 1115198
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Gone…

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Date: 8/09/2017 15:00:45
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1115206
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

furious said:

  • What if you discovered you unborn child is susceptible to crime or will become a nazi?

Gone…

sorry

I meant it in a generalized way.

What if someone discovered that their unborn child is susceptible to crime or will become a nazi?

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Date: 8/09/2017 15:03:46
From: transition
ID: 1115207
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

joy though is there’s a space, an undetermined space, into which whatever is expressed, projected so.

a private space.

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Date: 8/09/2017 15:04:02
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1115208
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Tau.Neutrino said:


furious said:
  • What if you discovered you unborn child is susceptible to crime or will become a nazi?

Gone…

sorry

I meant it in a generalized way.

What if someone discovered that their unborn child is susceptible to crime or will become a nazi?

Leave them to the bears along with all the other self-righteous nuts.

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Date: 8/09/2017 15:08:42
From: dv
ID: 1115212
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

I for one would be happy if all research in this field were postponed until about 100 years after discrimination on sexuality fades away.

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Date: 8/09/2017 15:16:22
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1115217
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

dv said:


I for one would be happy if all research in this field were postponed until about 100 years after discrimination on sexuality fades away.

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Date: 8/09/2017 15:16:55
From: Cymek
ID: 1115218
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

dv said:


I for one would be happy if all research in this field were postponed until about 100 years after discrimination on sexuality fades away.

Yeah well if it’s mostly down to genetics people will think it can be cured instead of embracing difference.

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Date: 8/09/2017 16:09:01
From: dv
ID: 1115228
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Cymek said:


dv said:

I for one would be happy if all research in this field were postponed until about 100 years after discrimination on sexuality fades away.

Yeah well if it’s mostly down to genetics people will think it can be cured instead of embracing difference.

If it is mostly down to parenting, some people will think the same.

Same can be said for any suggested cause.

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Date: 8/09/2017 16:38:05
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1115236
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

furious said:

  • Like dwarfism or people with ginger hair or giant people ?

People have been known to abort their babies when they discovered they had some, to them, undesirable traits…

Such as femaleness, in some parts of the world.

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Date: 8/09/2017 17:05:07
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1115259
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Is most discrimination on sexuality religious and neo-nazies?

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Date: 8/09/2017 17:19:42
From: Cymek
ID: 1115265
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Tau.Neutrino said:


Is most discrimination on sexuality religious and neo-nazies?

I remember it as a boyz will be boyz thing, with heterosexual men being the instigators

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Date: 8/09/2017 17:27:14
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1115267
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Cymek said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Is most discrimination on sexuality religious and neo-nazies?

I remember it as a boyz will be boyz thing, with heterosexual men being the instigators

I find human behavior interesting.

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Date: 8/09/2017 17:37:05
From: transition
ID: 1115268
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Tau.Neutrino said:


Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Is most discrimination on sexuality religious and neo-nazies?

I remember it as a boyz will be boyz thing, with heterosexual men being the instigators

I find human behavior interesting.

enjoy the fascination.

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Date: 8/09/2017 18:05:46
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1115281
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

transition said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Cymek said:

I remember it as a boyz will be boyz thing, with heterosexual men being the instigators

I find human behavior interesting.

enjoy the fascination.

That’s for other people, I’m not a geneticist.

I think genetics is an important field of science and will deliver many more discoveries.

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Date: 8/09/2017 18:19:50
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1115288
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

ChrispenEvan said:


fuck off with this repetitive crap. actually do something if you are that concerned.

The whole universe is open to study not just parts of it.

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Date: 8/09/2017 22:24:28
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1115385
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Tau.Neutrino said:


Lots of evidence points to sexuality determined by genetics.

heterosexuality
bisexuality
homosexuality
transsexuality
asexuality

If you don’t think genetics is the cause and dismiss all the evidence, then what is the cause?

What about transvestite, metrosexual, bicurious, pansexual, omnisexual, homophobia, bestiality, paedophilia, fetishes, b&d, s&m, adult babies, furries, etc.

New ones are being publicised every year.

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Date: 8/09/2017 22:42:48
From: Arts
ID: 1115399
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Tau.Neutrino said:


dv said:

I can’t put myself into the headspace of someone who doesn’t take evidence on board. It is now beyond doubt that there are genetic factors that predispose various sexualities.

But it has also become clear that the genetics are not completely determinative, so there are other factors. They could be epigenetic (for instance influence of maternal hormones or diet), social, cultural, or hang on specific events, relate to whether you’re the oldest or youngest child, medical history, parenting choices etc.

Agree.

well, that’s what I said last night

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Date: 8/09/2017 22:50:03
From: dv
ID: 1115403
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

I mean the topic is interesting, in itself, but it doesn’t really matter, much.

It would be better if any effort being directed towards the cause of heterosexuality etc be directed towards finding the causes and treatments of actual physical or mental ailments. Research costs money and person-hours.

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Date: 8/09/2017 23:06:14
From: Woodie
ID: 1115413
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

dv said:

It would be better if any effort being directed towards the cause of heterosexuality………………………….

Exacterly. Find the cause of heterosexuality and you’ve found the cause of both. Besides, there are far more heterosexuals to observe, poke, prod, interrogate, dissect and perform aversion therapy on. A far greater sample for everyone’s experiments and kangaroo courts of public opinion polls that surely would find an answer much easier.

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Date: 8/09/2017 23:09:04
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1115414
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Arts said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

I can’t put myself into the headspace of someone who doesn’t take evidence on board. It is now beyond doubt that there are genetic factors that predispose various sexualities.

But it has also become clear that the genetics are not completely determinative, so there are other factors. They could be epigenetic (for instance influence of maternal hormones or diet), social, cultural, or hang on specific events, relate to whether you’re the oldest or youngest child, medical history, parenting choices etc.

Agree.

well, that’s what I said last night

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Date: 8/09/2017 23:12:32
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1115416
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

dv said:


I mean the topic is interesting, in itself, but it doesn’t really matter, much.

It would be better if any effort being directed towards the cause of heterosexuality etc be directed towards finding the causes and treatments of actual physical or mental ailments. Research costs money and person-hours.

True, but the answer to why there is sexual diversity and what causes it, is interesting.

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Date: 8/09/2017 23:14:48
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1115418
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Woodie said:


dv said:

It would be better if any effort being directed towards the cause of heterosexuality………………………….

Exacterly. Find the cause of heterosexuality and you’ve found the cause of both. Besides, there are far more heterosexuals to observe, poke, prod, interrogate, dissect and perform aversion therapy on. A far greater sample for everyone’s experiments and kangaroo courts of public opinion polls that surely would find an answer much easier.

Exacterly. Find the cause of heterosexuality and you’ve found the cause of both.

Ok, that sounds good.

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Date: 8/09/2017 23:16:27
From: dv
ID: 1115420
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Tau.Neutrino said:


dv said:

I mean the topic is interesting, in itself, but it doesn’t really matter, much.

It would be better if any effort being directed towards the cause of heterosexuality etc be directed towards finding the causes and treatments of actual physical or mental ailments. Research costs money and person-hours.

True, but the answer to why there is sexual diversity and what causes it, is interesting.

I just said it’s interesting.

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Date: 8/09/2017 23:18:33
From: Woodie
ID: 1115422
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Tau.Neutrino said:


Woodie said:

dv said:

It would be better if any effort being directed towards the cause of heterosexuality………………………….

Exacterly. Find the cause of heterosexuality and you’ve found the cause of both. Besides, there are far more heterosexuals to observe, poke, prod, interrogate, dissect and perform aversion therapy on. A far greater sample for everyone’s experiments and kangaroo courts of public opinion polls that surely would find an answer much easier.

Exacterly. Find the cause of heterosexuality and you’ve found the cause of both.

Ok, that sounds good.

Mr Neutrino, Why is it there’s always the push/desire/need/curiosity to find out what the cause of everything BUT heterosexuality?

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Date: 8/09/2017 23:19:49
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1115423
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

dv said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

I mean the topic is interesting, in itself, but it doesn’t really matter, much.

It would be better if any effort being directed towards the cause of heterosexuality etc be directed towards finding the causes and treatments of actual physical or mental ailments. Research costs money and person-hours.

True, but the answer to why there is sexual diversity and what causes it, is interesting.

I just said it’s interesting.

Is it ok if other people find it interesting?

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Date: 8/09/2017 23:28:05
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1115427
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Woodie said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Woodie said:

Exacterly. Find the cause of heterosexuality and you’ve found the cause of both. Besides, there are far more heterosexuals to observe, poke, prod, interrogate, dissect and perform aversion therapy on. A far greater sample for everyone’s experiments and kangaroo courts of public opinion polls that surely would find an answer much easier.

Exacterly. Find the cause of heterosexuality and you’ve found the cause of both.

Ok, that sounds good.

Mr Neutrino, Why is it there’s always the push/desire/need/curiosity to find out what the cause of everything BUT heterosexuality?

I have never excluded heterosexuals

I have always stated that genetic sexual diversity includes

Heterosexuals
Bisexuals
Homosexuals
Transsexuals
Asexuals

If people want to add other behaviors, that’s ok

Science should be free of censorship and discrimination.

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Date: 8/09/2017 23:35:40
From: dv
ID: 1115430
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Tau.Neutrino said:


dv said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

True, but the answer to why there is sexual diversity and what causes it, is interesting.

I just said it’s interesting.

Is it ok if other people find it interesting?

It sure is but your use of the word “but” is unusual since it implies a contrary point.

“It’s interesting”

- “Yeah but it’s interesting”

“wha?

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Date: 8/09/2017 23:41:57
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1115433
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

dv said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

I just said it’s interesting.

Is it ok if other people find it interesting?

It sure is but your use of the word “but” is unusual since it implies a contrary point.

“It’s interesting”

- “Yeah but it’s interesting”

“wha?

ok, I can be unusual sometimes, I’m not perfect. I have flaws.

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Date: 12/09/2017 22:32:15
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1117008
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Cymek said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Is most discrimination on sexuality religious and neo-nazies?

I remember it as a boyz will be boyz thing, with heterosexual men being the instigators


Rohm , the leader of the storm troopers in nazi germany was GAY. Hitler had him killed in 1934 because he was challenging hitlers position.

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Date: 12/09/2017 22:39:27
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1117009
Subject: re: Genetics and Sexual Diversity

Tau.Neutrino said:


dv said:

I mean the topic is interesting, in itself, but it doesn’t really matter, much.

It would be better if any effort being directed towards the cause of heterosexuality etc be directed towards finding the causes and treatments of actual physical or mental ailments. Research costs money and person-hours.

True, but the answer to why there is sexual diversity and what causes it, is interesting.


A section of the population inserts things into themselves or puts themselves into things they really shouldn’t is mostly because they are MAD. As time has gone by we have been told over and over its normal behaviour ( its not). As a broad brush stroke you can write it off as mental instability but in human psychology this is just one way you can be mad.

Its not about sex per se but the instability of the psyche.

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