dv said:

The sounds of silence.

dv said:

Fred..

The melody is played by French horns or similar. It is unusual in that there are eleven bars repeated.

dv said:

The melody is played by French horns or similar. It is unusual in that there are eleven bars repeated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0aIqx1McVI

dv said:

I think that’s 4’33”, by John Cage.

btm said:

dv said:

I think that’s 4’33”, by John Cage.

That’s short.

PermeateFree said:

btm said:

dv said:

I think that’s 4’33”, by John Cage.

That’s short.

TWSS…

dv said:

The melody is played by French horns or similar. It is unusual in that there are eleven bars repeated.

Certainly sounds familiar. But a name isn’t leaping out of my brain.

PermeateFree said:

btm said:

dv said:

I think that’s 4’33”, by John Cage.

That’s short.

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

The melody is played by French horns or similar. It is unusual in that there are eleven bars repeated.

Certainly sounds familiar. But a name isn’t leaping out of my brain.

Yes, that’s how it is here, too.

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

The melody is played by French horns or similar. It is unusual in that there are eleven bars repeated.

Certainly sounds familiar. But a name isn’t leaping out of my brain.

Yes, that’s how it is here, too.

I can’t see me identifying it until I hear it again :)

It’s not from anything I’ve been listening to lately. I assume it’s from a symphony or suchlike. Could be a lot of different composers, presumably Romantic.

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

Certainly sounds familiar. But a name isn’t leaping out of my brain.

Yes, that’s how it is here, too.

I can’t see me identifying it until I hear it again :)

It’s not from anything I’ve been listening to lately. I assume it’s from a symphony or suchlike. Could be a lot of different composers, presumably Romantic.

Can you make it into a mp3 so we can all have a listen?

If memory serves, there are few accompanying instruments. Minimalistic, chamber orchestra sort of deal, but I’m barely remembering it.

dv said:

The melody is played by French horns or similar. It is unusual in that there are eleven bars repeated.

of course.. that’s it!”

btm said:

dv said:

I think that’s 4’33”, by John Cage.

Interesting. Thanks for that.

Here it is as a simple MIDI choon. Play on WMP etc.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/jde7xic5a8nasgg/DVchoon.mid

Bubblecar said:

Here it is as a simple MIDI choon. Play on WMP etc.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/jde7xic5a8nasgg/DVchoon.mid

I definitely recognise it. Just can’t place it.

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

The melody is played by French horns or similar. It is unusual in that there are eleven bars repeated.

Certainly sounds familiar. But a name isn’t leaping out of my brain.

Yes, that’s how it is here, too.

Yeah, nah, yeah

Let us know when you work it out.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Bubblecar said:

Here it is as a simple MIDI choon. Play on WMP etc.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/jde7xic5a8nasgg/DVchoon.mid

I definitely recognise it. Just can’t place it.

Me too. It should be quite a bit faster.

Yes, should be faster than that.

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Bubblecar said:

Here it is as a simple MIDI choon. Play on WMP etc.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/jde7xic5a8nasgg/DVchoon.mid

I definitely recognise it. Just can’t place it.

Me too. It should be quite a bit faster.

+1

dv, how long have suffered from earworms?

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I definitely recognise it. Just can’t place it.

Me too. It should be quite a bit faster.

+1

Ishtar gate, pictures at an exhibition, mussorsky.

I’ve an inkling that it has been used in an advertising campaign.

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Bubblecar said:

Here it is as a simple MIDI choon. Play on WMP etc.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/jde7xic5a8nasgg/DVchoon.mid

I definitely recognise it. Just can’t place it.

Me too. It should be quite a bit faster.

+1
Shouldn’t be too hard to track it down now, there hasn’t been all that much music written, over time, going backwards.

sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

Me too. It should be quite a bit faster.

+1

Ishtar gate, pictures at an exhibition, mussorsky.

Well done, sm :)

sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

+1

Ishtar gate, pictures at an exhibition, mussorsky.

Well done, sm :)

Aha. I was just about to write the same and decided to read the whole thread first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxg2R0Pqb3c

sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

Me too. It should be quite a bit faster.

+1

Ishtar gate, pictures at an exhibition, mussorsky.

?

There’s a Great Gate of Kiev in that work. And that phrase doesn’t seem to be in it.

Stumpy_seahorse said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxg2R0Pqb3c

Um, you’re right it, is from that work. Well done :)

And I said it was by a Romantic composer, so I was vaguely close ;)

Bubblecar said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxg2R0Pqb3c

Um, you’re right it, is from that work. Well done :)

:) :) :)

Bubblecar said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxg2R0Pqb3c

Um, you’re right it, is from that work. Well done :)

Oh excellent. I can see why it could be irritating.

It’s the first bars of the first movement, Promenade.

Promenade

First Promenade
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Problems playing this file? See media help.
Key: B♭ major

Meter: alternating 5
4 and 6
4

Tempo: Allegro giusto, nel modo russico; senza allegrezza, ma poco sostenuto

Stasov’s comment: In this piece Mussorgsky depicts himself “roving through the exhibition, now leisurely, now briskly in order to come close to a picture that had attracted his attention, and at times sadly, thinking of his departed friend.”

The piece has simple, strong rhythms in asymmetrical meter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pictures_at_an_Exhibition#Promenade

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pictures_at_an_Exhibition#Promenade

sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

+1

Ishtar gate, pictures at an exhibition, mussorsky.

Well done, sm :)

+1

Peak Warming Man said:

sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

Ishtar gate, pictures at an exhibition, mussorsky.

Well done, sm :)

+1

+ 1×10^6

I see that DV has just buggered off with the information with nary a backward glance.

sibeen said:

I see that DV has just buggered off with the information with nary a backward glance.

gone to get his kid’s next homework question for us…

sibeen said:

I see that DV has just buggered off with the information with nary a backward glance.

Yeah he’s probably in the pub now being backslapped and getting free drinks for finding out that information.
Probably saying “Gees thanks guys, it took a while but I eventually worked it out”
And they’ll all be saying “Legend”

It’s a popular work and I have Stokowski’s orchestration of it on CD, but would have taken me a long time to remember because I don’t actually like it.

Bubblecar said:

It’s a popular work and I have Stokowski’s orchestration of it on CD, but would have taken me a long time to remember because I don’t actually like it.

You did your bit.

Peak Warming Man said:

sibeen said:

I see that DV has just buggered off with the information with nary a backward glance.

Yeah he’s probably in the pub now being backslapped and getting free drinks for finding out that information.
Probably saying “Gees thanks guys, it took a while but I eventually worked it out”
And they’ll all be saying “Legend”

He was probably a lakh for the info, too.

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

sibeen said:

I see that DV has just buggered off with the information with nary a backward glance.

Yeah he’s probably in the pub now being backslapped and getting free drinks for finding out that information.
Probably saying “Gees thanks guys, it took a while but I eventually worked it out”
And they’ll all be saying “Legend”

He was probably paid a lakh for the info, too.

fixed, sigh

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Yeah he’s probably in the pub now being backslapped and getting free drinks for finding out that information.
Probably saying “Gees thanks guys, it took a while but I eventually worked it out”
And they’ll all be saying “Legend”

He was probably paid a lakh for the info, too.

fixed, sigh

That’s better.

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

sibeen said:

I see that DV has just buggered off with the information with nary a backward glance.

Yeah he’s probably in the pub now being backslapped and getting free drinks for finding out that information.
Probably saying “Gees thanks guys, it took a while but I eventually worked it out”
And they’ll all be saying “Legend”

He was probably a lakh for the info, too.

You’re not in SL now fella!

Ian said:

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Yeah he’s probably in the pub now being backslapped and getting free drinks for finding out that information.
Probably saying “Gees thanks guys, it took a while but I eventually worked it out”
And they’ll all be saying “Legend”

He was probably a lakh for the info, too.

You’re not in SL now fella!

True, but it’s a useful number.

Michael V said:

Ian said:

Michael V said:

He was probably a lakh for the info, too.

You’re not in SL now fella!

True, but it’s a useful number.

What is the exchange rate?

the Imperial March from Star Wars?

Ian said:

Michael V said:

Ian said:

You’re not in SL now fella!

True, but it’s a useful number.

What is the exchange rate?

tree fiddy to a lakh.

Ian said:

Michael V said:

Ian said:

You’re not in SL now fella!

True, but it’s a useful number.

What is the exchange rate?

It was about 1 cent per rupee.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

+1

Ishtar gate, pictures at an exhibition, mussorsky.

?

There’s a Great Gate of Kiev in that work. And that phrase doesn’t seem to be in it.

Yes. It doesn’t seem to be all iin dv’s sample. but he’s ony listening to the promenade.

Michael V said:

Ian said:

Michael V said:

True, but it’s a useful number.

What is the exchange rate?

It was about 1 cent per rupee.

So a Lakh was around $1,000 (AUD).

Michael V said:

Ian said:

Michael V said:

True, but it’s a useful number.

What is the exchange rate?

It was about 1 cent per rupee.

So you’d get a lot for a lakh?

Bubblecar said:

It’s the first bars of the first movement, Promenade.

Promenade

First Promenade
MENU0:00
Problems playing this file? See media help.
Key: B♭ major

Meter: alternating 5
4 and 6
4

Tempo: Allegro giusto, nel modo russico; senza allegrezza, ma poco sostenuto

Stasov’s comment: In this piece Mussorgsky depicts himself “roving through the exhibition, now leisurely, now briskly in order to come close to a picture that had attracted his attention, and at times sadly, thinking of his departed friend.”

The piece has simple, strong rhythms in asymmetrical meter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pictures_at_an_Exhibition#Promenade

OK. I see you have already worked that out.

Ian said:

Michael V said:

Ian said:

What is the exchange rate?

It was about 1 cent per rupee.

So you’d get a lot for a lakh?

If it was on facebook, probably.

Ian said:

Michael V said:

Ian said:

What is the exchange rate?

It was about 1 cent per rupee.

So you’d get a lot for a lakh?

Heh!

Interestingly, much, much less than 16 years ago.

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s the first bars of the first movement, Promenade.

Promenade

First Promenade
MENU0:00
Problems playing this file? See media help.
Key: B♭ major

Meter: alternating 5
4 and 6
4

Tempo: Allegro giusto, nel modo russico; senza allegrezza, ma poco sostenuto

Stasov’s comment: In this piece Mussorgsky depicts himself “roving through the exhibition, now leisurely, now briskly in order to come close to a picture that had attracted his attention, and at times sadly, thinking of his departed friend.”

The piece has simple, strong rhythms in asymmetrical meter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pictures_at_an_Exhibition#Promenade

OK. I see you have already worked that out.

This piece was remade famous by Emerson Lake and Palmer back in about 1972.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s the first bars of the first movement, Promenade.

Promenade

First Promenade
MENU0:00
Problems playing this file? See media help.
Key: B♭ major

Meter: alternating 5
4 and 6
4

Tempo: Allegro giusto, nel modo russico; senza allegrezza, ma poco sostenuto

Stasov’s comment: In this piece Mussorgsky depicts himself “roving through the exhibition, now leisurely, now briskly in order to come close to a picture that had attracted his attention, and at times sadly, thinking of his departed friend.”

The piece has simple, strong rhythms in asymmetrical meter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pictures_at_an_Exhibition#Promenade

OK. I see you have already worked that out.

This piece was remade famous by Emerson Lake and Palmer back in about 1972.

You’re right. Had a couple of their albums but not that one.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s the first bars of the first movement, Promenade.

Promenade

First Promenade
MENU0:00
Problems playing this file? See media help.
Key: B♭ major

Meter: alternating 5
4 and 6
4

Tempo: Allegro giusto, nel modo russico; senza allegrezza, ma poco sostenuto

Stasov’s comment: In this piece Mussorgsky depicts himself “roving through the exhibition, now leisurely, now briskly in order to come close to a picture that had attracted his attention, and at times sadly, thinking of his departed friend.”

The piece has simple, strong rhythms in asymmetrical meter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pictures_at_an_Exhibition#Promenade

OK. I see you have already worked that out.

This piece was remade famous by Emerson Lake and Palmer back in about 1972.

Not sure about famous, but here it is anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZjPkJyrr_c

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

OK. I see you have already worked that out.

This piece was remade famous by Emerson Lake and Palmer back in about 1972.

Not sure about famous, but here it is anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZjPkJyrr_c

I bought the album on its release. So I made it famous, on my terms.

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

This piece was remade famous by Emerson Lake and Palmer back in about 1972.

Not sure about famous, but here it is anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZjPkJyrr_c

I bought the album on its release. So I made it famous, on my terms.

Following on.. The Gnome.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSLsdCrq5MU

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Not sure about famous, but here it is anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZjPkJyrr_c

I bought the album on its release. So I made it famous, on my terms.

Following on.. The Gnome.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSLsdCrq5MU

And.. the full album. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7NAGTq_IJQ

Keith Emerson aquired a degenerative nerve issue in his right hand and was limited in what he could play, so he shot himself.
That’s commitment.

Ian said:

Keith Emerson aquired a degenerative nerve issue in his right hand and was limited in what he could play, so he shot himself.
That’s commitment.

He was seriously committed to jazz classical musicianship to the enth degree.

roughbarked said:

Ian said:

Keith Emerson aquired a degenerative nerve issue in his right hand and was limited in what he could play, so he shot himself.
That’s commitment.

He was seriously committed to jazz classical musicianship to the enth degree.

A lot of people didn’t give Greg Lake the credit he was due.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Ian said:

Keith Emerson aquired a degenerative nerve issue in his right hand and was limited in what he could play, so he shot himself.
That’s commitment.

He was seriously committed to jazz classical musicianship to the enth degree.

A lot of people didn’t give Greg Lake the credit he was due.

Far more than just a Bass player.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

He was seriously committed to jazz classical musicianship to the enth degree.

A lot of people didn’t give Greg Lake the credit he was due.

Far more than just a Bass player.

He did all of everything in the sage.

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

OK. I see you have already worked that out.

This piece was remade famous by Emerson Lake and Palmer back in about 1972.

Not sure about famous, but here it is anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZjPkJyrr_c

That’s awful.

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

This piece was remade famous by Emerson Lake and Palmer back in about 1972.

Not sure about famous, but here it is anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZjPkJyrr_c

That’s awful.

+1

And I’m an ELP fanboy.

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

This piece was remade famous by Emerson Lake and Palmer back in about 1972.

Not sure about famous, but here it is anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZjPkJyrr_c

That’s awful.

It is merely an interpretation.

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Not sure about famous, but here it is anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZjPkJyrr_c

That’s awful.

+1

And I’m an ELP fanboy.

You should listen to my whole album link then instead.

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Not sure about famous, but here it is anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZjPkJyrr_c

That’s awful.

It is merely an interpretation.

Not evetyone gets jazz. It is a bit too freeform for most.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

That’s awful.

It is merely an interpretation.

Not evetyone gets jazz. It is a bit too freeform for most.

It’s a cacophony.

AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

It is merely an interpretation.

Not evetyone gets jazz. It is a bit too freeform for most.

It’s a cacophony.

Well, Keith Emerson was trying to make his keyboards perform like an orchestra and it really isn’t too far removed from Mussorgsky’s original work. Apart from their own interpretations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modest_Mussorgsky

roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

Not evetyone gets jazz. It is a bit too freeform for most.

It’s a cacophony.

Well, Keith Emerson was trying to make his keyboards perform like an orchestra and it really isn’t too far removed from Mussorgsky’s original work. Apart from their own interpretations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modest_Mussorgsky

Contemporary opinions of Mussorgsky as a composer and person varied from positive to ambiguous to negative. Mussorgsky’s eventual supporters, Stasov and Balakirev, initially registered strongly negative impressions of the composer. Stasov wrote Balakirev, in an 1863 letter, “I have no use for Mussorgsky. His views may tally with mine, but I have never heard him express an intelligent idea. All in him is flabby, dull. He is, it seems to me, a thorough idiot”, and Balakirev agreed: “Yes, Mussorgsky is little short of an idiot.”

Mixed impressions are recorded by Rimsky-Korsakov and Tchaikovsky, colleagues of Mussorgsky who, unlike him, made their living as composers. Both praised his talent while expressing disappointment with his technique. Rimsky-Korsakov wrote that Mussorgsky’s scores included “absurd, disconnected harmony, ugly part-writing, sometimes strikingly illogical modulation, sometimes a depressing lack of it, unsuccessful scoring of orchestral things… what was needed at the moment was an edition for performance, for practical artistic aims, for familiarization with his enormous talent, not for the study of his personality and artistic transgressions.”

Thanks very much, sm… great audio detective work.

dv said:

Thanks very much, sm… great audio detective work.

She only beat me because she was here first.

dv said:

Thanks very much, sm… great audio detective work.

Oh, I see you’ve been shamed into some well deserved thanks.

How was the pub?

I have one, cant remember it all, I remember 9 notes

da da dar da da dar da da daaa

Tau.Neutrino said:

I have one, cant remember it all, I remember 9 notes

da da dar da da dar da da daaa

Yeah well..

dv said:

Thanks very much, sm… great audio detective work.

I know for a fact that I knew the answer when I was four. It took a while because I when I tried to sing it in my brain, the brain took off with canon in D. I was too lazy to carry the laptop to the piano. If car hadn’t of midi’ed it you might have had to wait longer.

sibeen said:

dv said:

Thanks very much, sm… great audio detective work.

Oh, I see you’ve been shamed into some well deserved thanks.

How was the pub?

I’ve been to no pub

So now I know two pieces my Mussorgsky.

The other is A Night On Bald Mountain. I only know it because it is sampled in Intergalactic.

dv said:

So now I know two pieces my Mussorgsky.

The other is A Night On Bald Mountain. I only know it because it is sampled in Intergalactic.

I’m thinking this is sad.

I see my input is not required. Don’t have sound here. But as soon as “Pictures at an exhibition” was mentioned I could recognise the promenade from the score.

Not counting chat threads, this must be one of the longest ever on the forum.

mollwollfumble said:

Not counting chat threads, this must be one of the longest ever on the forum.

No, not even close.

mollwollfumble said:

Not counting chat threads, this must be one of the longest ever on the forum.

lol nay

I’ve learnt a lot from ABC Classic. They did a nice piece yesterday on examples of the use of whole note scales in Western music.

But I think they are saying Debussy wrong.

dv said:

I’ve learnt a lot from ABC Classic. They did a nice piece yesterday on examples of the use of whole note scales in Western music.

But I think they are saying Debussy wrong.

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

Not counting chat threads, this must be one of the longest ever on the forum.

lol nay

OK, but it must be the longest since the last ne that was longer.

Spent my childhood with crotchets,Quavers and semi-breves beaten in to me by nuns and other “teachers”.
sure makes learning music a lot of fun.

gaghalfrunt said:

Spent my childhood with crotchets,Quavers and semi-breves beaten in to me by nuns and other “teachers”.
sure makes learning music a lot of fun.

Me too a bit.. not nuns.. sums

How’s zaphod?

gaghalfrunt said:

Spent my childhood with crotchets,Quavers and semi-breves beaten in to me by nuns and other “teachers”.
sure makes learning music a lot of fun.

I was looking for any excuse to get away from the nun with the steel edge ruler she applied to fingers rather than talk.

she didn’t want me to learn music.

gaghalfrunt said:

Spent my childhood with crotchets,Quavers and semi-breves beaten in to me by nuns and other “teachers”.
sure makes learning music a lot of fun.

dv’s a slow learner but he coming along.

gaghalfrunt said:

Spent my childhood with crotchets,Quavers and semi-breves beaten in to me by nuns and other “teachers”.
sure makes learning music a lot of fun.

Me too. I loved music. No need to be hitting me..

sarahs mum said:

gaghalfrunt said:

Spent my childhood with crotchets,Quavers and semi-breves beaten in to me by nuns and other “teachers”.
sure makes learning music a lot of fun.

Me too. I loved music. No need to be hitting me..

Piano teacher used to drink.. a lot

sarahs mum said:

gaghalfrunt said:

Spent my childhood with crotchets,Quavers and semi-breves beaten in to me by nuns and other “teachers”.
sure makes learning music a lot of fun.

Me too. I loved music. No need to be hitting me..

we now use the words ‘tun’ ‘titi’ ‘tahun’ and “Great big whole notes’ for kids below six, then the conversion once they are able to work with language is easy… it’s a proven formula that has been working for the company since 1982

Bring back the breve I say.

Whole tone scales are not much used as they have an unsettling effect, which is why their use by some composers was thought noteworthy by the ABC Classic team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_tone_scale

dv said:

Whole tone scales are not much used as they have an unsettling effect, which is why their use by some composers was thought noteworthy by the ABC Classic team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_tone_scale

I don’t understand this music stuff at all. I learned piano. I wasn’t very good. I liked playing the Germans, but I hated Debussy.
I thought it was to do with the timing, not the actual notes. I obviously like nice mathematical stuff.

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

gaghalfrunt said:

Spent my childhood with crotchets,Quavers and semi-breves beaten in to me by nuns and other “teachers”.
sure makes learning music a lot of fun.

Me too. I loved music. No need to be hitting me..

we now use the words ‘tun’ ‘titi’ ‘tahun’ and “Great big whole notes’ for kids below six, then the conversion once they are able to work with language is easy… it’s a proven formula that has been working for the company since 1982

I hope the little buggers get the beating they deserve if they dont catch on straight away.
I worked for me and im not bitter at all.

Ian said:

gaghalfrunt said:

Spent my childhood with crotchets,Quavers and semi-breves beaten in to me by nuns and other “teachers”.
sure makes learning music a lot of fun.

Me too a bit.. not nuns.. sums

How’s zaphod?

As his personal brain care specialist, I cant comment publicly on Zaphod.

Breve

In medieval mensural notation, the brevis was one of the shortest note lengths in use (Gehrkens 1914)—hence its name, which is the Latin etymon of “brief”. In “perfect” rhythmic mode, the brevis was a third of a longa, or in “imperfect” mode, half a longa.