Researchers develop spectroscopic ‘science camera’ system for smartphones

The latest versions of most smartphones contain at least two and sometimes three built-in cameras. Researchers at the University of Illinois would like to sell mobile device manufactures on the idea of adding yet another image sensor as a built-in capability for health diagnostic, environmental monitoring, and general-purpose color sensing applications.

Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2017-09-spectroscopic-science-camera-smartphones.html#jCp

Could a spectroscopic-science-camera detect ice on the road?

Say shine a beam of light at different angles in front and under the car.

Then a spectroscopic camera reads the light.

Could ice on the road be detected?

Smart phones are turning into whole of life applications and personal computers on a scale barely imagined not that long ago. I expect soon they will be imbedded under the skin so you can’t leave home without it which has its own host of implications.

But my simple question is, do the kids of today have wallets or purses at all now, or is it all the smart phone…with maybe a few slots in a carry case for cards.

And my VBT is going to fill again. Tau you really need to take an extra second in your enthusiasm and edit your titles. It’s a PITA.

AwesomeO said:

Smart phones are turning into whole of life applications and personal computers on a scale barely imagined not that long ago. I expect soon they will be imbedded under the skin so you can’t leave home without it which has its own host of implications.

But my simple question is, do the kids of today have wallets or purses at all now, or is it all the smart phone…with maybe a few slots in a carry case for cards.

Card-less systems are out there

I’d imagine cars will get it too for toll gates and wifi enabled parking meters

AwesomeO said:

And my VBT is going to fill again. Tau you really need to take an extra second in your enthusiasm and edit your titles. It’s a PITA.

I was going to edit the heading

sorry

Tau.Neutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

Smart phones are turning into whole of life applications and personal computers on a scale barely imagined not that long ago. I expect soon they will be imbedded under the skin so you can’t leave home without it which has its own host of implications.

But my simple question is, do the kids of today have wallets or purses at all now, or is it all the smart phone…with maybe a few slots in a carry case for cards.

Card-less systems are out there

Yes I get that, but people still need licenses and Medicare cards at a minimum.

AwesomeO said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

Smart phones are turning into whole of life applications and personal computers on a scale barely imagined not that long ago. I expect soon they will be imbedded under the skin so you can’t leave home without it which has its own host of implications.

But my simple question is, do the kids of today have wallets or purses at all now, or is it all the smart phone…with maybe a few slots in a carry case for cards.

Card-less systems are out there

Yes I get that, but people still need licenses and Medicare cards at a minimum.

If you could put in a chip in your index finger for all card information would you do it?

Small chip that other devices can read.

save carrying around a wallet

AwesomeO said:

Smart phones are turning into whole of life applications and personal computers on a scale barely imagined not that long ago. I expect soon they will be imbedded under the skin so you can’t leave home without it which has its own host of implications.

But my simple question is, do the kids of today have wallets or purses at all now, or is it all the smart phone…with maybe a few slots in a carry case for cards.

probably that… you only really need to carry a couple of cards.

Tau.Neutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Card-less systems are out there

Yes I get that, but people still need licenses and Medicare cards at a minimum.

If you could put in a chip in your index finger for all card information would you do it?

Small chip that other devices can read.

save carrying around a wallet

No, I would resist for as long as possible.

• No, I would resist for as long as possible.

I like technology but I’ll be damned if I’m letting anyone insert a chip under my skin…

AwesomeO said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

Yes I get that, but people still need licenses and Medicare cards at a minimum.

If you could put in a chip in your index finger for all card information would you do it?

Small chip that other devices can read.

save carrying around a wallet

No, I would resist for as long as possible.

but say the chip had your finger print and your DNA information in it as well as card info so as to tie your cards to you so no one else could use it

and be editable by only you with finger print, dna and password security

I would

I do like the idea of being able to put everything on a device and go.. but I worry about a. loss or theft and b. battery power.

I have a very small wallet that carries money, license, 1 ATM card and medicare card. if I lose/gets stolen then I still have credit cards at home to use in the interim and not much to have to replace. I have friends who have a large bulky purse that carries every loyalty card from every store they have ever visited and all their credit cards etc…

furious said:

• No, I would resist for as long as possible.

I like technology but I’ll be damned if I’m letting anyone insert a chip under my skin…

they would be clean chips

inserted by yourself

by a chip injector machine

Arts said:

I do like the idea of being able to put everything on a device and go.. but I worry about a. loss or theft and b. battery power.

I have a very small wallet that carries money, license, 1 ATM card and medicare card. if I lose/gets stolen then I still have credit cards at home to use in the interim and not much to have to replace. I have friends who have a large bulky purse that carries every loyalty card from every store they have ever visited and all their credit cards etc…

hard to loose if there under skin

they would be passive devices (no Battery)

• but say the chip had your finger print and your DNA information in it as well as card info so as to tie your cards to you so no one else could use it

My finger has my finger print and dna information already in it without a chip…

Tau.Neutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

If you could put in a chip in your index finger for all card information would you do it?

Small chip that other devices can read.

save carrying around a wallet

No, I would resist for as long as possible.

but say the chip had your finger print and your DNA information in it as well as card info so as to tie your cards to you so no one else could use it

and be editable by only you with finger print, dna and password security

I would

You can. I prefer not to. In parallel with those developments will also be the developments of monitoring and societal statistical analysis .

I have read too many dystopian futures which include embedded chips.

Not only that, waaaaay too many negative implications on multiple mundane fronts. You meant ironed before health monitoring, how about insurance companies monitoring blood alcohol levels etc.

furious said:

• but say the chip had your finger print and your DNA information in it as well as card info so as to tie your cards to you so no one else could use it

My finger has my finger print and dna information already in it without a chip…

yes but you also have to carry cards around

a chip gets rid of that

information on the cards

is no different to

information on a chip

geez you guys

this is easy

• yes but you also have to carry cards around

Such I burden, I know, yet I survive…

Sitting at home you are having a beer and you get a warning via your earbud that you are about to exceed governmental health guidelines and that your car is about to be disabled and you now have lowest priority in emergency services due to voluntary self impairment.

All this gear, when tied together allows this sort of stuff to happen.

furious said:

• yes but you also have to carry cards around

Such I burden, I know, yet I survive…

ok

AwesomeO said:

Sitting at home you are having a beer and you get a warning via your earbud that you are about to exceed governmental health guidelines and that your car is about to be disabled and you now have lowest priority in emergency services due to voluntary self impairment.

All this gear, when tied together allows this sort of stuff to happen.

Have another and they’ll send out a hound…

AwesomeO said:

Sitting at home you are having a beer and you get a warning via your earbud that you are about to exceed governmental health guidelines and that your car is about to be disabled and you now have lowest priority in emergency services due to voluntary self impairment.

All this gear, when tied together allows this sort of stuff to happen.

I dont know how far nanna-ism will get to.

We’ll end up with chip carrying Communists.

Peak Warming Man said:

We’ll end up with chip carrying Communists.

And sold as being good for you. Best intentions and all that.

Tau.Neutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

Sitting at home you are having a beer and you get a warning via your earbud that you are about to exceed governmental health guidelines and that your car is about to be disabled and you now have lowest priority in emergency services due to voluntary self impairment.

All this gear, when tied together allows this sort of stuff to happen.

I dont know how far nanna-ism will get to.

Hahahahahahaha

>>Sitting at home you are having a beer and you get a warning via your earbud that you are about to exceed governmental health guidelines and that your car is about to be disabled and you now have lowest priority in emergency services due to voluntary self impairment.

LOL.

Probably be able to tell if you are vaccinated as well.

and what if the chip stops working? or what if all I have to do is chop off your finger to commit theft, ID fraud, leave the country?

putting all of your information in one spot is fraught with terribleness… this is wxactly why banks need more than one point of ID.. and usually something that is not found in a wallet

Peak Warming Man said:

We’ll end up with chip carrying Communists.

Individuals with chips.

Same information as cards.

• All this gear, when tied together allows this sort of stuff to happen.

Those type of detectors that they have in shops to stop shop lifting will appear everywhere too…

Arts said:

and what if the chip stops working? or what if all I have to do is chop off your finger to commit theft, ID fraud, leave the country?

putting all of your information in one spot is fraught with terribleness… this is wxactly why banks need more than one point of ID.. and usually something that is not found in a wallet

They specifically require something with a photograph of yourself.

• Individuals with chips.
  
  Same information as cards.

If I want to do some civil disobedience I might be inclined to leave my ID at home. Not an option if your ID is implanted under your skin…

Tau.Neutrino said:

Peak Warming Man said:

We’ll end up with chip carrying Communists.

Individuals with chips.

Same information as cards.

They could let you know when you encounter another commie, to make it easier to organise a revolution.

Arts said:

and what if the chip stops working? or what if all I have to do is chop off your finger to commit theft, ID fraud, leave the country?

putting all of your information in one spot is fraught with terribleness… this is wxactly why banks need more than one point of ID.. and usually something that is not found in a wallet

you can get passive e-chips

basically the chip is battery free and the reader supplies the rf energy to read the chip

you can read more here

Active RFID vs. Passive RFID: What’s the Difference?
http://blog.atlasrfidstore.com/active-rfid-vs-passive-rfid

I would imagine the editor would work in a similar way.

furious said:

• Individuals with chips.
  
  Same information as cards.

If I want to do some civil disobedience I might be inclined to leave my ID at home. Not an option if your ID is implanted under your skin…

they can still id you using video

PermeateFree said:

Arts said:

and what if the chip stops working? or what if all I have to do is chop off your finger to commit theft, ID fraud, leave the country?

putting all of your information in one spot is fraught with terribleness… this is wxactly why banks need more than one point of ID.. and usually something that is not found in a wallet

They specifically require something with a photograph of yourself.

Your iPhone.

Peak Warming Man said:

PermeateFree said:

Arts said:

and what if the chip stops working? or what if all I have to do is chop off your finger to commit theft, ID fraud, leave the country?

putting all of your information in one spot is fraught with terribleness… this is wxactly why banks need more than one point of ID.. and usually something that is not found in a wallet

They specifically require something with a photograph of yourself.

Your iPhone.

Official identification, where they can either photocopy and/or record one of your identification numbers.

Of course certain books will only be able to be read by certain chip holders, unless that is you were able to buy a blackmarket real printed copy which are not outlawed and unavailable since the great revolutionary peoples fire of 2023.

Peak Warming Man said:

Of course certain books will only be able to be read by certain chip holders, unless that is you were able to buy a blackmarket real printed copy which are not outlawed and unavailable since the great revolutionary peoples fire of 2023.

And many Forumites will applaud the ability of the government to deny deplorables to vote.

It’s gonna be a paradise.

Peak Warming Man said:

Of course certain books will only be able to be read by certain chip holders, unless that is you were able to buy a blackmarket real printed copy which are not outlawed and unavailable since the great revolutionary peoples fire of 2023.

Ah, the Lady Chatterley defense.

furious said:

• Individuals with chips.
  
  Same information as cards.

If I want to do some civil disobedience I might be inclined to leave my ID at home. Not an option if your ID is implanted under your skin…

Line your pocket with Aluminium Foil…
…pick up your protest sign, and stick the other hand in yer pocket. :whistle: