Date: 17/09/2017 21:46:33
From: Rule 303
ID: 1118936
Subject: VR Based skills training

The British Resuscitation Council are doing a fantastic job in interactive App-based and On-line training, having just released a much improved version of the LifeSaver games, and a new-to-the-world LiveSaverVR version.

Dare I predict that it will be only a few short years before all skills-based annual re-certification will be VR based.

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Date: 17/09/2017 21:49:03
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1118937
Subject: re: VR Based skills training

Rule 303 said:


The British Resuscitation Council are doing a fantastic job in interactive App-based and On-line training, having just released a much improved version of the LifeSaver games, and a new-to-the-world LiveSaverVR version.

Dare I predict that it will be only a few short years before all skills-based annual re-certification will be VR based.

Cripes. I hope not.

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Date: 18/09/2017 08:30:54
From: Rule 303
ID: 1119044
Subject: re: VR Based skills training

mollwollfumble said:


Cripes. I hope not.

Why so?

I reckon Virtual or Augmented Reality has the potential to be much more effective (as a training tool) than almost anything other than actual reality.

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Date: 18/09/2017 09:23:23
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1119064
Subject: re: VR Based skills training

Rule 303 said:


mollwollfumble said:

Cripes. I hope not.

Why so?

I reckon Virtual or Augmented Reality has the potential to be much more effective (as a training tool) than almost anything other than actual reality.

In the mining sector, virtual reality simulators are heavily used for equipment operator training largely because there is such a high marginal cost associated with training due to losses in productivity.

VR systems are also heavily used for emergency and rescue training

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Date: 18/09/2017 11:28:22
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1119098
Subject: re: VR Based skills training

Related articles of interest.

Virtual Reality Companies: Top 20 VR Companies to Watch

The complete guide to virtual reality in 2016

Applications Of Virtual Reality

The Big List of Virtual Reality Production Resources

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_reality

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Date: 18/09/2017 12:53:07
From: dv
ID: 1119166
Subject: re: VR Based skills training


“You’ll go where I go, defile what I defile, eat who I eat.”

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Date: 18/09/2017 13:05:50
From: buffy
ID: 1119174
Subject: re: VR Based skills training

Maybe as a training aid. But not for assessment. If you are going to be certified that you can pump and blow a body, you need to actually physically do it.

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Date: 18/09/2017 16:46:23
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1119263
Subject: re: VR Based skills training

buffy said:

Maybe as a training aid. But not for assessment. If you are going to be certified that you can pump and blow a body, you need to actually physically do it.

Agree. People will do a lot of things in VR that they wouldn’t do in real life.

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Date: 18/09/2017 18:23:13
From: Rule 303
ID: 1119286
Subject: re: VR Based skills training

VR and AR can include the use of analogues (like a CPR mannequin, as in the link given above) and can provide individual assessment and coaching and recording in ways that no human trainer / assessor could hope to.

Compared to the way some training is conducted and assessed in Australia right now, these technologies present an enormous improvement in validity, reliability, flexibility and fairness.

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Date: 18/09/2017 18:29:31
From: buffy
ID: 1119290
Subject: re: VR Based skills training

Hmm, so you still need access to a mannequin? I don’t reckon a pillow cuts it…

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Date: 18/09/2017 18:32:04
From: Rule 303
ID: 1119294
Subject: re: VR Based skills training

buffy said:

Hmm, so you still need access to a mannequin? I don’t reckon a pillow cuts it…

There’s a lot of stuff that doesn’t cut it…

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Date: 18/09/2017 18:38:48
From: buffy
ID: 1119298
Subject: re: VR Based skills training

A friend recently borrowed our mannequins to do an online update. He had to teleconference his assessment.

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Date: 18/09/2017 18:48:44
From: Rule 303
ID: 1119313
Subject: re: VR Based skills training

buffy said:

A friend recently borrowed our mannequins to do an online update. He had to teleconference his assessment.

Even that, clunky and resource hungry though it might be, is better than some of our current training modes. I’m seeing a rise in practices that have no validity at assessment, let alone any flexibility or accommodation of people with low language/literacy/numeracy.

I did course with a major national first aid provider yesterday (by way of observation) that was just awful. Pull qualification and urgent major audit kind of awful.

We’ve still got a long way to go…

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Date: 18/09/2017 18:54:00
From: buffy
ID: 1119319
Subject: re: VR Based skills training

Rule 303 said:


buffy said:

A friend recently borrowed our mannequins to do an online update. He had to teleconference his assessment.

Even that, clunky and resource hungry though it might be, is better than some of our current training modes. I’m seeing a rise in practices that have no validity at assessment, let alone any flexibility or accommodation of people with low language/literacy/numeracy.

I did course with a major national first aid provider yesterday (by way of observation) that was just awful. Pull qualification and urgent major audit kind of awful.

We’ve still got a long way to go…

I did my last CPR update with the company that is equivalent to an umbrella. I was very, very not happy. I told our association to get a new provider. Not once, not even once, was the DRABCD thingy shown on the screen. And I had to assist the oldest participant, who didn’t know what to do at all, because the teacher wasn’t watching what was going on. It was before I had demonstrated for Mr buffy’s classes, but I had helped the local Ambulance Community Officers do their practising before their re-accreditation testing. And I’d got a good long time on the chest compressions while one of them got his oxygen mask technique right. Just as well I’m still reasonably fit!

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Date: 18/09/2017 18:56:57
From: buffy
ID: 1119321
Subject: re: VR Based skills training

>>let alone any flexibility or accommodation of people with low language/literacy/numeracy<<

Mr buffy is big on this too. He has done some work with disaffected youth in this area so he’s had to be very flexible. He’s also good with the functionally illiterate – he will do an entire oral assessment with them if necessary. Perhaps as he says, we are not making a living from it, we can afford to be slower. But it’s a seriously important skill and it is possible to teach most people. Goodness me, St John cadets in the 70’s did demonstrations.

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Date: 18/09/2017 22:10:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1119390
Subject: re: VR Based skills training

how about drone pilots in military

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