I think this is a question that requires some discussion. We all should be aware that cannabis can be detected in the bloodstream for a couple of weeks or more after having used the drug. So where does under the influence fall?

roughbarked said:

I think this is a question that requires some discussion. We all should be aware that cannabis can be detected in the bloodstream for a couple of weeks or more after having used the drug. So where does under the influence fall?

You’re a doper so your opinion doesn’t count.

The_observer said:

roughbarked said:

I think this is a question that requires some discussion. We all should be aware that cannabis can be detected in the bloodstream for a couple of weeks or more after having used the drug. So where does under the influence fall?

You’re a doper so your opinion doesn’t count.

So you say.

From which glorious pristine pedestal are you speaking?

roughbarked said:

The_observer said:

roughbarked said:

I think this is a question that requires some discussion. We all should be aware that cannabis can be detected in the bloodstream for a couple of weeks or more after having used the drug. So where does under the influence fall?

You’re a doper so your opinion doesn’t count.

So you say.

From which glorious pristine pedestal are you speaking?

People Against Illegal Narcotics

The US are doing studies into this. Things change quickly so it could be different now.

My understanding is they can do a mouth swab and can determine presence of THC.

Then they can do a blood test for more information.

I’m not sure how they determine which levels of cannabinoids are that to be considered as impairment.

The_observer said:

roughbarked said:

The_observer said:

You’re a doper so your opinion doesn’t count.

So you say.

From which glorious pristine pedestal are you speaking?

People Against Illegal Narcotics

And a lot of those people have trouble excepting Fair Use and medical ethics

Where by some substances have medicinal use for people

Its a simple medical rights issue, if people benefit from a substance and it offers medical relief then blocking it is unfair and unethical.

Your terrible at observation observer.

Probably after a decent night sleep after having a session.

Cymek said:

Probably after a decent night sleep after having a session.

No longer under the influence that is.

Tau.Neutrino said:

The_observer said:

roughbarked said:

So you say.

From which glorious pristine pedestal are you speaking?

People Against Illegal Narcotics

And a lot of those people have trouble excepting Fair Use and medical ethics

Where by some substances have medicinal use for people

Its a simple medical rights issue, if people benefit from a substance and it offers medical relief then blocking it is unfair and unethical.

Your terrible at observation observer.

The threads about driving a motor vehicle under the influence of marijuana, shit for brains.

Tau.Neutrino said:

The_observer said:

roughbarked said:

So you say.

From which glorious pristine pedestal are you speaking?

People Against Illegal Narcotics

And a lot of those people have trouble excepting Fair Use and medical ethics

Where by some substances have medicinal use for people

Its a simple medical rights issue, if people benefit from a substance and it offers medical relief then blocking it is unfair and unethical.

Your terrible at observation observer.

The threads about driving a motor vehicle under the influence of marijuana, shit for brains.

>>>Thsts pretty hypocritical for someone who drives under the influence of marijuana, newt!

Why?

I don’t drive smoking cannabis, not do I smoke cannabis then drive.

I may have been smoking the previous day, or a few days ago etc

That’s not impaired driving

Tau.Neutrino said:

>>>Thsts pretty hypocritical for someone who drives under the influence of marijuana, newt!

Why?

I don’t drive smoking cannabis, not do I smoke cannabis then drive.

I may have been smoking the previous day, or a few days ago etc

That’s not impaired driving

I personally hope you get road tested, often.

The_observer said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The_observer said:

People Against Illegal Narcotics

And a lot of those people have trouble excepting Fair Use and medical ethics

Where by some substances have medicinal use for people

Its a simple medical rights issue, if people benefit from a substance and it offers medical relief then blocking it is unfair and unethical.

Your terrible at observation observer.

The threads about driving a motor vehicle under the influence of marijuana, shit for brains.

Yes I can see a problem with AI’s in self driving cars smoking weed.

The_observer said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

>>>Thsts pretty hypocritical for someone who drives under the influence of marijuana, newt!

Why?

I don’t drive smoking cannabis, not do I smoke cannabis then drive.

I may have been smoking the previous day, or a few days ago etc

That’s not impaired driving

I personally hope you get road tested, often.

I don’t drive impaired, so I have nothing to fear.

Tau.Neutrino said:

The_observer said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

>>>Thsts pretty hypocritical for someone who drives under the influence of marijuana, newt!

Why?

I don’t drive smoking cannabis, not do I smoke cannabis then drive.

I may have been smoking the previous day, or a few days ago etc

That’s not impaired driving

I personally hope you get road tested, often.

I don’t drive impaired, so I have nothing to fear.

I generally plan my week days so If I am smoking I stay home.

If I want to go somewhere I will leave it for the next day and will stay off the weed.

Tau.Neutrino said:

The_observer said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

>>>Thsts pretty hypocritical for someone who drives under the influence of marijuana, newt!

Why?

I don’t drive smoking cannabis, not do I smoke cannabis then drive.

I may have been smoking the previous day, or a few days ago etc

That’s not impaired driving

I personally hope you get road tested, often.

I don’t drive impaired, so I have nothing to fear.

“It is well established that a driver can have a threshold of 0.05 blood alcohol concentration without it impairing his or her ability to drive. However, when it comes to cannabis there is no allowable limit or standard way of measuring cannabis impairment like there is with alcohol. As Shoebridge explains, roadside drug tests test for the smallest detectable trace element of drugs in a person’s system. They do not test for impairment. That means that the spliff you smoked three days ago could land you with a conviction even though you were not impaired while actually driving.”

https://www.lylawyers.com.au/how-much-pot-is-too-much-drug-driving-and-measuring-cannabis-impairment/

Really? Is it so hard to edit the subject title to a few words.

AwesomeO said:

Really? Is it so hard to edit the subject title to a few words.

It’s rb, even when he has nothing to say it takes up at least three sentences.

esselte said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The_observer said:

I personally hope you get road tested, often.

I don’t drive impaired, so I have nothing to fear.

“It is well established that a driver can have a threshold of 0.05 blood alcohol concentration without it impairing his or her ability to drive. However, when it comes to cannabis there is no allowable limit or standard way of measuring cannabis impairment like there is with alcohol. As Shoebridge explains, roadside drug tests test for the smallest detectable trace element of drugs in a person’s system. They do not test for impairment. That means that the spliff you smoked three days ago could land you with a conviction even though you were not impaired while actually driving.”

https://www.lylawyers.com.au/how-much-pot-is-too-much-drug-driving-and-measuring-cannabis-impairment/

If people are not impaired then the system makes it unfair to those people.

If they are impaired then the law should apply.

As to the question, which I find odd, perception of speed, perception of music and movies, deep introspection and insights that cannot be remembered or if recorded make no sense, in short all the shit that makes being stoned fun.

There should be no doubt that it alters perception and reactions.

poikilotherm said:

AwesomeO said:

Really? Is it so hard to edit the subject title to a few words.

It’s rb, even when he has nothing to say it takes up at least three sentences.

I call his dissembling rubbish guru gibberish. Sounds ok but doesn’t sustain even the most basic examination.

AwesomeO said:

As to the question, which I find odd, perception of speed, perception of music and movies, deep introspection and insights that cannot be remembered or if recorded make no sense, in short all the shit that makes being stoned fun.

There should be no doubt that it alters perception and reactions.

I find it makes my perception of everything better.

Unless I am really tired, and since I have good driver awareness, I don’t drive while tired.

AwesomeO said:

poikilotherm said:

AwesomeO said:

Really? Is it so hard to edit the subject title to a few words.

It’s rb, even when he has nothing to say it takes up at least three sentences.

I call his dissembling rubbish guru gibberish. Sounds ok but doesn’t sustain even the most basic examination.

What about a scrolling topic line

then its only uses one line

Tau.Neutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

poikilotherm said:

It’s rb, even when he has nothing to say it takes up at least three sentences.

I call his dissembling rubbish guru gibberish. Sounds ok but doesn’t sustain even the most basic examination.

What about a scrolling topic line

then its only uses one line

um

that could be annoying

maybe a scroll-able topic line

Tau.Neutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

As to the question, which I find odd, perception of speed, perception of music and movies, deep introspection and insights that cannot be remembered or if recorded make no sense, in short all the shit that makes being stoned fun.

There should be no doubt that it alters perception and reactions.

I find it makes my perception of everything better.

Unless I am really tired, and since I have good driver awareness, I don’t drive while tired.

So you don’t drive bent.
You don’t drive drunk.
You don’t drive when tired.

You must walk or catch the bus a hell of a lot.

Tau.Neutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

As to the question, which I find odd, perception of speed, perception of music and movies, deep introspection and insights that cannot be remembered or if recorded make no sense, in short all the shit that makes being stoned fun.

There should be no doubt that it alters perception and reactions.

I find it makes my perception of everything better.

Unless I am really tired, and since I have good driver awareness, I don’t drive while tired.

Yeah but you would be the sort of clown who is convinced they drive better stoned. What you mean is you drive much much slower and with a keyhole focus. In short, probably not as bad as aggressive showing off pissed but still oblivious.

The_observer said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

As to the question, which I find odd, perception of speed, perception of music and movies, deep introspection and insights that cannot be remembered or if recorded make no sense, in short all the shit that makes being stoned fun.

There should be no doubt that it alters perception and reactions.

I find it makes my perception of everything better.

Unless I am really tired, and since I have good driver awareness, I don’t drive while tired.

So you don’t drive bent.
You don’t drive drunk.
You don’t drive when tired.

You must walk or catch the bus a hell of a lot.

Hahaha, dickhead, I go shopping once a fortnight and have enough forsight to be able to do so with complete confidence should I be pulled over.

And I did my last gear about three weeks ago, nursing new plants now in my greenhouse.

The_observer said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

As to the question, which I find odd, perception of speed, perception of music and movies, deep introspection and insights that cannot be remembered or if recorded make no sense, in short all the shit that makes being stoned fun.

There should be no doubt that it alters perception and reactions.

I find it makes my perception of everything better.

Unless I am really tired, and since I have good driver awareness, I don’t drive while tired.

So you don’t drive bent.
You don’t drive drunk.
You don’t drive when tired.

You must walk or catch the bus a hell of a lot.

the supermarket is just around the corner

a one minute walk

Foresight.

AwesomeO said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

As to the question, which I find odd, perception of speed, perception of music and movies, deep introspection and insights that cannot be remembered or if recorded make no sense, in short all the shit that makes being stoned fun.

There should be no doubt that it alters perception and reactions.

I find it makes my perception of everything better.

Unless I am really tired, and since I have good driver awareness, I don’t drive while tired.

Yeah but you would be the sort of clown who is convinced they drive better stoned. What you mean is you drive much much slower and with a keyhole focus. In short, probably not as bad as aggressive showing off pissed but still oblivious.

no I tend not to drive while stoned

I have said that I plan my week and days to stay home and a day stay off it to drive and shop

The days I do get stoned I do things around the house like listen to music or type here

its not something I use for driving

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I find it makes my perception of everything better.

Unless I am really tired, and since I have good driver awareness, I don’t drive while tired.

So you don’t drive bent.
You don’t drive drunk.
You don’t drive when tired.

You must walk or catch the bus a hell of a lot.

Hahaha, dickhead, I go shopping once a fortnight and have enough forsight to be able to do so with complete confidence should I be pulled over.

And I did my last gear about three weeks ago, nursing new plants now in my greenhouse.

Dickhead hey. How abusive. You re an aggressive drunkbthen.

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

So you don’t drive bent.
You don’t drive drunk.
You don’t drive when tired.

You must walk or catch the bus a hell of a lot.

Hahaha, dickhead, I go shopping once a fortnight and have enough forsight to be able to do so with complete confidence should I be pulled over.

And I did my last gear about three weeks ago, nursing new plants now in my greenhouse.

Dickhead hey. How abusive. You re an aggressive drunkbthen.

He plans his fortnight like a lot of people do.

Tau.Neutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I find it makes my perception of everything better.

Unless I am really tired, and since I have good driver awareness, I don’t drive while tired.

Yeah but you would be the sort of clown who is convinced they drive better stoned. What you mean is you drive much much slower and with a keyhole focus. In short, probably not as bad as aggressive showing off pissed but still oblivious.

no I tend not to drive while stoned

I have said that I plan my week and days to stay home and a day stay off it to drive and shop

The days I do get stoned I do things around the house like listen to music or type here

its not something I use for driving

I see some dissembling. You pretty well bong on every day if your posts here can be believed, and to be fair, judging by your posts I believe you, you are 57 years old and frankly clueless. Gotta be drugs. If you are a bit slow mentally I apologise, you can’t help that.

as of this moment, cannabis is an illegal drug, so when evidence presents itself appropriate charges should be delivered.

when it becomes ‘legal for consumption’ then we can talk about driving impairment. even in the states where it is decriminalised, it is still consumption of an illicit substance while driving…

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

So you don’t drive bent.
You don’t drive drunk.
You don’t drive when tired.

You must walk or catch the bus a hell of a lot.

Hahaha, dickhead, I go shopping once a fortnight and have enough forsight to be able to do so with complete confidence should I be pulled over.

And I did my last gear about three weeks ago, nursing new plants now in my greenhouse.

Dickhead hey. How abusive. You re an aggressive drunkbthen.

Nahh, read your posts over many years, I reckon you are a dickhead.

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I find it makes my perception of everything better.

Unless I am really tired, and since I have good driver awareness, I don’t drive while tired.

So you don’t drive bent.
You don’t drive drunk.
You don’t drive when tired.

You must walk or catch the bus a hell of a lot.

Hahaha, dickhead, I go shopping once a fortnight and have enough forsight to be able to do so with complete confidence should I be pulled over.

And I did my last gear about three weeks ago, nursing new plants now in my greenhouse.

And Auesome, the comment i made was to newt.
Try to follow more closely

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

Hahaha, dickhead, I go shopping once a fortnight and have enough forsight to be able to do so with complete confidence should I be pulled over.

And I did my last gear about three weeks ago, nursing new plants now in my greenhouse.

Dickhead hey. How abusive. You re an aggressive drunkbthen.

Nahh, read your posts over many years, I reckon you are a dickhead.

What would you like to do about it ?

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

Dickhead hey. How abusive. You re an aggressive drunkbthen.

Nahh, read your posts over many years, I reckon you are a dickhead.

What would you like to do about it ?

I endorse and support your posting, I am not a censor.

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

Nahh, read your posts over many years, I reckon you are a dickhead.

What would you like to do about it ?

I endorse and support your posting, I am not a censor.

Learn to read more carefully.
My comment you reacted to was aimed at newt.

Now go stand in the corner & come back when you settle down.

AwesomeO said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

Yeah but you would be the sort of clown who is convinced they drive better stoned. What you mean is you drive much much slower and with a keyhole focus. In short, probably not as bad as aggressive showing off pissed but still oblivious.

no I tend not to drive while stoned

I have said that I plan my week and days to stay home and a day stay off it to drive and shop

The days I do get stoned I do things around the house like listen to music or type here

its not something I use for driving

I see some dissembling. You pretty well bong on every day if your posts here can be believed, and to be fair, judging by your posts I believe you, you are 57 years old and frankly clueless. Gotta be drugs. If you are a bit slow mentally I apologise, you can’t help that.

I generally use the car once a fortnight for the purpose of visiting the ATM and shopping, round robin style.

That’s it really.

The supermarket is just a one minute walk around the corner, and I walk there and back for small things.

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

What would you like to do about it ?

I endorse and support your posting, I am not a censor.

Learn to read more carefully.
My comment you reacted to was aimed at newt.

Now go stand in the corner & come back when you settle down.

Doesnt matter, read your posts over many years and I reckon you are a dickhead.

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

I endorse and support your posting, I am not a censor.

Learn to read more carefully.
My comment you reacted to was aimed at newt.

Now go stand in the corner & come back when you settle down.

Doesnt matter, read your posts over many years and I reckon you are a dickhead.

Ok.

Lean to read shit for brains

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

Learn to read more carefully.
My comment you reacted to was aimed at newt.

Now go stand in the corner & come back when you settle down.

Doesnt matter, read your posts over many years and I reckon you are a dickhead.

Ok.

Lean to read shit for brains

Still a dickhead.

Arts said:

as of this moment, cannabis is an illegal drug, so when evidence presents itself appropriate charges should be delivered.

when it becomes ‘legal for consumption’ then we can talk about driving impairment. even in the states where it is decriminalised, it is still consumption of an illicit substance while driving…

Yes, but people using cannabis for medical purposes and who are not impaired should not be charged.

I dont see that as fair

If a driver is impaired on cannabis then charges should be laid.

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

Doesnt matter, read your posts over many years and I reckon you are a dickhead.

Ok.

Lean to read shit for brains

Still a dickhead.

Well you’re most likely a pedophile, but hey, bong on

it comes down to planning your week

staying off it to drive somewhere

using it at home only

Tau.Neutrino said:

Arts said:

as of this moment, cannabis is an illegal drug, so when evidence presents itself appropriate charges should be delivered.

when it becomes ‘legal for consumption’ then we can talk about driving impairment. even in the states where it is decriminalised, it is still consumption of an illicit substance while driving…

Yes, but people using cannabis for medical purposes and who are not impaired should not be charged.

I dont see that as fair

If a driver is impaired on cannabis then charges should be laid.

my guess is that those who use it for medicinal purposes (and as far as I know this has not yet become a legality – though I know it’s in the works) will have the appropriate documentation. However, I believe, and I am prepared to be corrected with the documentation, medicinal cannabis does not include the THC content associated with cognitive impairment so it’s a non issue.

I am not even discussing self medication as this is still illegal in activity despite a personal agenda to the subject.

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

Ok.

Lean to read shit for brains

Still a dickhead.

Well you’re most likely a pedophile, but hey, bong on

Whoahhhh, that’s your response? I ain’t gonna request you be banned, but that was well out of order. Sort of goes to my point that you are a dickhead. If you were not a dickhead you would realise that was an escalation and insult that was well out of proportion.

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

Still a dickhead.

Well you’re most likely a pedophile, but hey, bong on

Whoahhhh, that’s your response? I ain’t gonna request you be banned, but that was well out of order. Sort of goes to my point that you are a dickhead. If you were not a dickhead you would realise that was an escalation and insult that was well out of proportion.

You don’t ply the kiddies with drugs fo you pedo?

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

Ok.

Lean to read shit for brains

Still a dickhead.

Well you’re most likely a pedophile, but hey, bong on

wow… the name calling needs rethinking.

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

Well you’re most likely a pedophile, but hey, bong on

Whoahhhh, that’s your response? I ain’t gonna request you be banned, but that was well out of order. Sort of goes to my point that you are a dickhead. If you were not a dickhead you would realise that was an escalation and insult that was well out of proportion.

You don’t ply the kiddies with drugs fo you pedo?

Dear oh dear. If you are wanting to confirm my accusation that you are a dickhead then you are doing a fine job.

Arts said:

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

Still a dickhead.

Well you’re most likely a pedophile, but hey, bong on

wow… the name calling needs rethinking.

Well he’s gone out of his way to be rude to me, cause he can’t read, so be it
I’ll play by my own rules to such an aggressive cunt

The_observer said:

Arts said:

The_observer said:

Well you’re most likely a pedophile, but hey, bong on

wow… the name calling needs rethinking.

Well he’s gone out of his way to be rude to me, cause he can’t read, so be it
I’ll play by my own rules to such an aggressive cunt

Dickhead.

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

Whoahhhh, that’s your response? I ain’t gonna request you be banned, but that was well out of order. Sort of goes to my point that you are a dickhead. If you were not a dickhead you would realise that was an escalation and insult that was well out of proportion.

You don’t ply the kiddies with drugs fo you pedo?

Dear oh dear. If you are wanting to confirm my accusation that you are a dickhead then you are doing a fine job.

Have you been out of prison long?

How nany childrens lives have you ruined pedo awesome bum chum?

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Arts said:

as of this moment, cannabis is an illegal drug, so when evidence presents itself appropriate charges should be delivered.

when it becomes ‘legal for consumption’ then we can talk about driving impairment. even in the states where it is decriminalised, it is still consumption of an illicit substance while driving…

Yes, but people using cannabis for medical purposes and who are not impaired should not be charged.

I dont see that as fair

If a driver is impaired on cannabis then charges should be laid.

my guess is that those who use it for medicinal purposes (and as far as I know this has not yet become a legality – though I know it’s in the works) will have the appropriate documentation. However, I believe, and I am prepared to be corrected with the documentation, medicinal cannabis does not include the THC content associated with cognitive impairment so it’s a non issue.

I am not even discussing self medication as this is still illegal in activity despite a personal agenda to the subject.

Fair enough.

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

You don’t ply the kiddies with drugs fo you pedo?

Dear oh dear. If you are wanting to confirm my accusation that you are a dickhead then you are doing a fine job.

Have you been out of prison long?

How nany childrens lives have you ruined pedo awesome bum chum?

I can feel the rage growing. Yeah, you are balanced. rolls eyes

Keep it up… Dickhead.

I prefer being normal in the car.

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

Dear oh dear. If you are wanting to confirm my accusation that you are a dickhead then you are doing a fine job.

Have you been out of prison long?

How nany childrens lives have you ruined pedo awesome bum chum?

I can feel the rage growing. Yeah, you are balanced. rolls eyes

Keep it up… Dickhead.

Hide the children, Awesome O the pedo is here.

Cretin.

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

Have you been out of prison long?

How nany childrens lives have you ruined pedo awesome bum chum?

I can feel the rage growing. Yeah, you are balanced. rolls eyes

Keep it up… Dickhead.

Hide the children, Awesome O the pedo is here.

Cretin.

Keep digging dickhead, you are not even aware that you passed beyond the bounds of normal debate and yeah, insult, into a realm that speaks more to your own lack of awareness of bounds and boundaries. In short, not only are you a dickhead you are a clueless dickhead.

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

I can feel the rage growing. Yeah, you are balanced. rolls eyes

Keep it up… Dickhead.

Hide the children, Awesome O the pedo is here.

Cretin.

Keep digging dickhead, you are not even aware that you passed beyond the bounds of normal debate and yeah, insult, into a realm that speaks more to your own lack of awareness of bounds and boundaries. In short, not only are you a dickhead you are a clueless dickhead.

Have you been outed by Derrin Hinch as yet?

Watch out child molester

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

Hide the children, Awesome O the pedo is here.

Cretin.

Keep digging dickhead, you are not even aware that you passed beyond the bounds of normal debate and yeah, insult, into a realm that speaks more to your own lack of awareness of bounds and boundaries. In short, not only are you a dickhead you are a clueless dickhead.

Have you been outed by Derrin Hinch as yet?

Watch out child molester

Hehehe, broad shoulders here, keep it coming dickhead.

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

Keep digging dickhead, you are not even aware that you passed beyond the bounds of normal debate and yeah, insult, into a realm that speaks more to your own lack of awareness of bounds and boundaries. In short, not only are you a dickhead you are a clueless dickhead.

Have you been outed by Derrin Hinch as yet?

Watch out child molester

Hehehe, broad shoulders here, keep it coming dickhead.

Do you use those broad shoulders to abduct children?

Tau.Neutrino said:

I prefer being normal in the car.

I also prefer everyone to be unimpaired while driving

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I prefer being normal in the car.

I also prefer everyone to be unimpaired while driving

I wouldn’t ride in a car with a dope smoker at the wheel.

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

Have you been outed by Derrin Hinch as yet?

Watch out child molester

Hehehe, broad shoulders here, keep it coming dickhead.

Do you use those broad shoulders to abduct children?

Keep it coming, I care not. On the other end of this screen is a clown who has demonstrated that they are not at all proportionate, reasonable or well adjusted. In other words, I reckon that not only you are a dickhead, I reckon you are a dickhead with issues.

AwesomeO said:

The_observer said:

AwesomeO said:

Hehehe, broad shoulders here, keep it coming dickhead.

Do you use those broad shoulders to abduct children?

Keep it coming, I care not. On the other end of this screen is a clown who has demonstrated that they are not at all proportionate, reasonable or well adjusted. In other words, I reckon that not only you are a dickhead, I reckon you are a dickhead with issues.

LOL

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I prefer being normal in the car.

I also prefer everyone to be unimpaired while driving

Tau, you have stated many a time that you were having withdrawals from pot when you weren’t smoking it..

so, due to your habit, even when you aren’t on pot, you are still suffering the impairments of it, whether yoube under the influence, or under the influence of withdrawals….

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I prefer being normal in the car.

I also prefer everyone to be unimpaired while driving

yes

that’s why I plan my week

I generally stay at home

I’m not the type that gets stoned and drives around aimlessly

I really prefer getting stoned at home

The_observer said:

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I prefer being normal in the car.

I also prefer everyone to be unimpaired while driving

I wouldn’t ride in a car with a dope smoker at the wheel.

Nor would I if some was smoking weed while driving

Stumpy_seahorse said:

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I prefer being normal in the car.

I also prefer everyone to be unimpaired while driving

Tau, you have stated many a time that you were having withdrawals from pot when you weren’t smoking it..

so, due to your habit, even when you aren’t on pot, you are still suffering the impairments of it, whether yoube under the influence, or under the influence of withdrawals….

regular use here

I would to see what levels of cannabinoids are considered as impairment.

I would like to see a blow lock ignition device for medical use drivers if their levels are too high.

I have no objection to that.

Tau.Neutrino said:

I would to see what levels of cannabinoids are considered as impairment.

I would like to see a blow lock ignition device for medical use drivers if their levels are too high.

I have no objection to that.

I don’t see any reference on the web to a blood cannabis concentration associated with a given level of impairment.

moll:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16105257

A useful search engine for health stuff.

http://www.hon.ch/home1.html

Stumpy_seahorse said:

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I prefer being normal in the car.

I also prefer everyone to be unimpaired while driving

Tau, you have stated many a time that you were having withdrawals from pot when you weren’t smoking it..

so, due to your habit, even when you aren’t on pot, you are still suffering the impairments of it, whether yoube under the influence, or under the influence of withdrawals….

There is some research being done on withdrawal periods.

mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I would to see what levels of cannabinoids are considered as impairment.

I would like to see a blow lock ignition device for medical use drivers if their levels are too high.

I have no objection to that.

I don’t see any reference on the web to a blood cannabis concentration associated with a given level of impairment.

It varies with individuals.

Thanks to those who stuck with the long and arduous question.

roughbarked said:

Thanks to those who stuck with the long and arduous question.

No worries.

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Thanks to those who stuck with the long and arduous question.

No worries.

I wasn’t able to stick with the discussion.
Were any conclusions reached?

Tamb said:

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Thanks to those who stuck with the long and arduous question.

No worries.

I wasn’t able to stick with the discussion.
Were any conclusions reached?

Using cannabis is illegal, therefore, having any detected in your system is also illegal, the DUI legislation allows for punishment.

poikilotherm said:

Tamb said:

Peak Warming Man said:

No worries.

I wasn’t able to stick with the discussion.
Were any conclusions reached?

Using cannabis is illegal, therefore, having any detected in your system is also illegal, the DUI legislation allows for punishment.

Thanks
Key word being “any” I assume?

Corrective Services gives you 30 days from a positive reading to having a negative one and if it is detected after this you are assumed to have used again and get penalised

impairment’s a diverse thing, with diverse causes

diversity’s the latest thing.

roughbarked said:

Thanks to those who stuck with the long and arduous question.

Apparently only the cranky Curve found it arduous. He really gets his knickers in a knot sometimes and takes it out on other people in the forum.

For what it is worth I have never observed Tau.Neutrino or roughbarked being nasty towards anyone else here.

Tamb said:

poikilotherm said:

Tamb said:

I wasn’t able to stick with the discussion.
Were any conclusions reached?

Using cannabis is illegal, therefore, having any detected in your system is also illegal, the DUI legislation allows for punishment.

Thanks
Key word being “any” I assume?

Yes of course. However, I started this due to a comment from the observer about driving under the influence of cannabis.

Cymek said:

Corrective Services gives you 30 days from a positive reading to having a negative one and if it is detected after this you are assumed to have used again and get penalised

Didn’t know that but I suppose it is in a fairness clause.

There is some misinformation going around about cannabis slowing down peoples reactions.

This is partly incorrect, if someone is feeling energetic using cannabis there will be no slowing down of reactions, on the other hand if someone is feeling tired cannabis can increase that tiredness.

What do other users think?

Tau.Neutrino said:

There is some misinformation going around about cannabis slowing down peoples reactions.

This is partly incorrect, if someone is feeling energetic using cannabis there will be no slowing down of reactions, on the other hand if someone is feeling tired cannabis can increase that tiredness.

What do other users think?

Cannabis does enhance things so if you are relaxed you’ll only get more relaxed. If you are tense, you’ll likely become more tense.

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

poikilotherm said:

Using cannabis is illegal, therefore, having any detected in your system is also illegal, the DUI legislation allows for punishment.

Thanks
Key word being “any” I assume?

Yes of course. However, I started this due to a comment from the observer about driving under the influence of cannabis.

It is quite true that you do not necessarily have to have used cannabis for it to be present in your system in ‘any’ quantity.

roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

There is some misinformation going around about cannabis slowing down peoples reactions.

This is partly incorrect, if someone is feeling energetic using cannabis there will be no slowing down of reactions, on the other hand if someone is feeling tired cannabis can increase that tiredness.

What do other users think?

Cannabis does enhance things so if you are relaxed you’ll only get more relaxed. If you are tense, you’ll likely become more tense.

Yes I noticed it exacerbated my sore back and I could feel things like the holes from my nose and eyebrow piercing and some of the fillings in my teeth.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Thanks
Key word being “any” I assume?

Yes of course. However, I started this due to a comment from the observer about driving under the influence of cannabis.

It is quite true that you do not necessarily have to have used cannabis for it to be present in your system in ‘any’ quantity.

You can getting readings from being a passive smoker, they are very low to the point they may not be considered a true positive reading by Australian standards which I think is either 30 or 15 ug/L

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

There is some misinformation going around about cannabis slowing down peoples reactions.

This is partly incorrect, if someone is feeling energetic using cannabis there will be no slowing down of reactions, on the other hand if someone is feeling tired cannabis can increase that tiredness.

What do other users think?

Cannabis does enhance things so if you are relaxed you’ll only get more relaxed. If you are tense, you’ll likely become more tense.

Yes I noticed it exacerbated my sore back and I could feel things like the holes from my nose and eyebrow piercing and some of the fillings in my teeth.

I think you’d probably better stop smoking oregano and get the real thing.

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Cannabis does enhance things so if you are relaxed you’ll only get more relaxed. If you are tense, you’ll likely become more tense.

Yes I noticed it exacerbated my sore back and I could feel things like the holes from my nose and eyebrow piercing and some of the fillings in my teeth.

I think you’d probably better stop smoking oregano and get the real thing.

I used to love getting stoned but don’t like it all anymore so haven’t done it in years

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Yes of course. However, I started this due to a comment from the observer about driving under the influence of cannabis.

It is quite true that you do not necessarily have to have used cannabis for it to be present in your system in ‘any’ quantity.

You can getting readings from being a passive smoker, they are very low to the point they may not be considered a true positive reading by Australian standards which I think is either 30 or 15 ug/L

If you were at a Cheeng and Chong party but did not actually smoke any, there could easily be a high enough reading.

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Yes I noticed it exacerbated my sore back and I could feel things like the holes from my nose and eyebrow piercing and some of the fillings in my teeth.

I think you’d probably better stop smoking oregano and get the real thing.

I used to love getting stoned but don’t like it all anymore so haven’t done it in years

It is indeed what the vast majority of those who have tried or used the weed eventually or immediately decide is the better course of action for themselves.