The Largest Dataset We Have Shows Gun Control Actually Works

In the wake of the US’s latest mass shooting in Las Vegas – tragically the deadliest in the country’s history – there is continued debate over whether or not more closely regulating the sale of firearms might prevent these types of events in future.

While it’s an incredibly heated topic, last year, the largest study ever conducted on the topic found a clear link between firearm regulation and fewer gun-related deaths around the world.

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We know gun control works here in Australia reasonably well.

Maybe that’s something the UN could do, organize a gun control study looking at 100 countries.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Maybe that’s something the UN could do, organize a gun control study looking at 100 countries.

What a senseless tragedy… Those folks in the US are all just scared of their own shadow… What a terrible way to live always in fear and thinking they need to arm themselves (8 in 10 are owners from memory) just for protection.

Madness.

Wonders how the bullet proof clothing industry is doing?

Tau.Neutrino said:

Wonders how the bullet proof clothing industry is doing?

No such thing really. Too bulky or heavy for boot-scooting in.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Wonders how the bullet proof clothing industry is doing?

Future history entry

The bullet proof clothing industry for young and old really took off in the early 21st century in the USA, one would have thought gun restriction would make more sense, perhaps that was part of the reason their empire fell.

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Wonders how the bullet proof clothing industry is doing?

Future history entry

The bullet proof clothing industry for young and old really took off in the early 21st century in the USA, one would have thought gun restriction would make more sense, perhaps that was part of the reason their empire fell.

It could create boon in the clothing industry

marketers could use it

Do you want to survive the next mass shooting, wear bullet proof clothing

another argument for bullet proof clothing is,

makes it hard for the terrorists, mentally ill / suicidal types to shoot people dead

forces people to buy clothing though, and many people wont like that idea, lots prefer light loose cotton fabrics

I wonder how light bullet proof clothing could be made?

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Wonders how the bullet proof clothing industry is doing?

Future history entry

The bullet proof clothing industry for young and old really took off in the early 21st century in the USA, one would have thought gun restriction would make more sense, perhaps that was part of the reason their empire fell.

all those future shows where people are wearing the same one piece outfit with the silver triangle… that’s just bullet proof material with a chest plate addition.. it makes sense now

https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/gun-control-regulations-firearms-mortality/

a good read by a good blogger.

These might come back into fashion?

How about Haley Geftman-Gold?

A CORPORATE ATTORNEY for a TV NETWORK who doesn’t understand PC, PR, Self preservation, Social Media, Memes, Using Politics to Discriminate, etc.

Concert goers year 2050

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Tau.Neutrino said:

Concert goers year 2050

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You can’t get rid of guns in america , there are too many in circulation

I can’t afford a gun and can’t justify its expense when my dog’s water is evian and i’m paying ludicrous prices for dog treats ( 9.50 for a tiny bag of liver treats)

I don’t know what the shooter was using, but from what I understand, a bulletproof jacket that will stop any substantial military type round has a solid plate insert which is heavy and cumbersome.

In terms of gun control, I fear the genie is out of the bottle in the USA. It’s not like Australia where we had amnesties where people hand in their guns. There are millions upon millions out there in America, mainly in th ehands of people who don’t want to hand them in.

wookiemeister said:

You can’t get rid of guns in america , there are too many in circulation

It will take a generation.

party_pants said:

wookiemeister said:

You can’t get rid of guns in america , there are too many in circulation

It will take a generation.

And a total change of mindset.

I’m always flabbergasted by the frequently heard argument that the right to bear arms is in case they need to overthrow the government… the government that has tanks, drones and helicopter gunships. Good luck with your semi automatic rifles.

pommiejohn said:

I’m always flabbergasted by the frequently heard argument that the right to bear arms is in case they need to overthrow the government… the government that has tanks, drones and helicopter gunships. Good luck with your semi automatic rifles.

exactly, plus i doubt many have the stomach for a guerilla war like the afghans and the like who have been doing it for centuries.

pommiejohn said:

I’m always flabbergasted by the frequently heard argument that the right to bear arms is in case they need to overthrow the government… the government that has tanks, drones and helicopter gunships. Good luck with your semi automatic rifles.

The American army has been fighting these very people and has still not won a war

My money is on the 14 year old boy with no shoes holding an old AK

ChrispenEvan said:

pommiejohn said:

I’m always flabbergasted by the frequently heard argument that the right to bear arms is in case they need to overthrow the government… the government that has tanks, drones and helicopter gunships. Good luck with your semi automatic rifles.

exactly, plus i doubt many have the stomach for a guerilla war like the afghans and the like who have been doing it for centuries.

The american army would take heavy casualties if it took on its own citizens.

The government would be at war domestically and internationally, the wheels would fall off within a few months as taxes couldnt be collected or freely given.

Hillary might give it a shot with a coup

pommiejohn said:

party_pants said:

wookiemeister said:

You can’t get rid of guns in america , there are too many in circulation

It will take a generation.

And a total change of mindset.

The change of mindset will take a generation too.

party_pants said:

wookiemeister said:

You can’t get rid of guns in america , there are too many in circulation

It will take a generation.

or two or three

Arts said:

party_pants said:

wookiemeister said:

You can’t get rid of guns in america , there are too many in circulation

It will take a generation.

or two or three

Yep.
Not long after the Sandy Hook murders a former work friend posted a photo on fb of her out at the gun range holding a semi-automatic weapon and claiming how great it was to have the opportunity to fire one. My reaction was one of horror, panic, fear. I knew that she had serious abuse issues from her family (religion etc) and could not even access mental health care as her parents forbid it (religious beliefs) and she was under her mum’s insurance plan.

She faced so many challenges with money and support about her life choices. When she asked me to write a letter for her application for monetary assistance for housing at the local uni I was happy to do it as she worked at 3 part time jobs and always seemed to be coping with the balance of working, studying and recreation.

When the gun photo appeared I responded with a WTF? reply. And then I had my head bitten off by her, and another woman from work. “It’s our 2nd amendment right!!!!”. They couldn’t see how insensitive it was to post a photo of that nature in the months after the horror of dead kids in a school.

I will never understand the way this works for Americans. Not all of them, but far too many of them.

kii said:

Arts said:

party_pants said:

It will take a generation.

or two or three

Yep.
Not long after the Sandy Hook murders a former work friend posted a photo on fb of her out at the gun range holding a semi-automatic weapon and claiming how great it was to have the opportunity to fire one. My reaction was one of horror, panic, fear. I knew that she had serious abuse issues from her family (religion etc) and could not even access mental health care as her parents forbid it (religious beliefs) and she was under her mum’s insurance plan.

She faced so many challenges with money and support about her life choices. When she asked me to write a letter for her application for monetary assistance for housing at the local uni I was happy to do it as she worked at 3 part time jobs and always seemed to be coping with the balance of working, studying and recreation.

When the gun photo appeared I responded with a WTF? reply. And then I had my head bitten off by her, and another woman from work. “It’s our 2nd amendment right!!!!”. They couldn’t see how insensitive it was to post a photo of that nature in the months after the horror of dead kids in a school.

I will never understand the way this works for Americans. Not all of them, but far too many of them.

I can understand it is lots of fun to fire a semi-automatic weapon, makes a lot of noise etc. I have no problem with people doing that on a range, provided the weapon lives there and is stored securely when not in use. But there is no real purpose to anyone owning one and keeping it at home.

party_pants said:

kii said:

Arts said:

or two or three

Yep.
Not long after the Sandy Hook murders a former work friend posted a photo on fb of her out at the gun range holding a semi-automatic weapon and claiming how great it was to have the opportunity to fire one. My reaction was one of horror, panic, fear. I knew that she had serious abuse issues from her family (religion etc) and could not even access mental health care as her parents forbid it (religious beliefs) and she was under her mum’s insurance plan.

She faced so many challenges with money and support about her life choices. When she asked me to write a letter for her application for monetary assistance for housing at the local uni I was happy to do it as she worked at 3 part time jobs and always seemed to be coping with the balance of working, studying and recreation.

When the gun photo appeared I responded with a WTF? reply. And then I had my head bitten off by her, and another woman from work. “It’s our 2nd amendment right!!!!”. They couldn’t see how insensitive it was to post a photo of that nature in the months after the horror of dead kids in a school.

I will never understand the way this works for Americans. Not all of them, but far too many of them.

I can understand it is lots of fun to fire a semi-automatic weapon, makes a lot of noise etc. I have no problem with people doing that on a range, provided the weapon lives there and is stored securely when not in use. But there is no real purpose to anyone owning one and keeping it at home.

Yes, that was part of her response…it is fun. It was the timing of the photo being posted on fb. Well, it was for me.

I don’t agree with gun ownership, but I can understand lifelong indoctrination of the “need” .. what I think is the problem, and this is based on ‘the vibe’ is the fact that health systems in The US are shockingly appalling… and mental health is almost ignored.

a typical composition in criminology is the 80/20 rule… 80% of crime is committed by 20% of the people… we probably need to focus on those 20%…

There are some in people in America who see guns as a gadget to have.

For people who see everything as gadgets, those people.

Would a bullet proof weave made of carbon fiber, Kevlar and Titanium work?

or has that been done?

the scary part is that many mass shootings barely get a mention now. Just the ones that ‘break records’

there is a whole psychological field on people who choose to ‘go out in glory’. They want , what is now a very common term – Death by cop. And they go on a spree (a spree is different to a mass shooting because of timing and locations) and end up with a large ‘exit’ because law enforcement have finally caught up with them and there is no turning back and no going forward for the perpetrator… not that they ever considered they would.

this happens in sprees and mass shootings.. too often.

Arts said:

the scary part is that many mass shootings barely get a mention now. Just the ones that ‘break records’

there is a whole psychological field on people who choose to ‘go out in glory’. They want , what is now a very common term – Death by cop. And they go on a spree (a spree is different to a mass shooting because of timing and locations) and end up with a large ‘exit’ because law enforcement have finally caught up with them and there is no turning back and no going forward for the perpetrator… not that they ever considered they would.

this happens in sprees and mass shootings.. too often.

A talking head on the drum was saying never report their names on the media. Dunno if that would work, it would get into social media and not sure the commercial stuff could resist an exclusive where they reveal all.

Plus it’s a major assumption that they want larger notoriety, they might just want a grand exit as a fuck you to family and friends. And maybe shoot us some work mates.

My sister has linked this:

http://www.betootaadvocate.com/uncategorized/australia-enjoys-another-peaceful-day-under-oppressive-gun-control-regime/

Arts said:

the scary part is that many mass shootings barely get a mention now. Just the ones that ‘break records’

there is a whole psychological field on people who choose to ‘go out in glory’. They want , what is now a very common term – Death by cop. And they go on a spree (a spree is different to a mass shooting because of timing and locations) and end up with a large ‘exit’ because law enforcement have finally caught up with them and there is no turning back and no going forward for the perpetrator… not that they ever considered they would.

this happens in sprees and mass shootings.. too often.

I think the large gun corporations that make guns see mass shootings as bad publicity and lobby the Fed Gov hard.

The military machine also has something to do with it.

We are not seeing America doing anything about gun control.

They just don’t want to talk about it, now is not the time to talk about it. Profit over human lives does not matter.

It is easy for some semi autos to be converted to full autos, that is what the latest shooter did.

AwesomeO said:

Arts said:

the scary part is that many mass shootings barely get a mention now. Just the ones that ‘break records’

there is a whole psychological field on people who choose to ‘go out in glory’. They want , what is now a very common term – Death by cop. And they go on a spree (a spree is different to a mass shooting because of timing and locations) and end up with a large ‘exit’ because law enforcement have finally caught up with them and there is no turning back and no going forward for the perpetrator… not that they ever considered they would.

this happens in sprees and mass shootings.. too often.

A talking head on the drum was saying never report their names on the media. Dunno if that would work, it would get into social media and not sure the commercial stuff could resist an exclusive where they reveal all.

Plus it’s a major assumption that they want larger notoriety, they might just want a grand exit as a fuck you to family and friends. And maybe shoot us some work mates.

I would like to see mass killers and terrorists given no media attention, if they want fame and use killing people to do it, take it away from them.

AwesomeO said:

Arts said:

the scary part is that many mass shootings barely get a mention now. Just the ones that ‘break records’

there is a whole psychological field on people who choose to ‘go out in glory’. They want , what is now a very common term – Death by cop. And they go on a spree (a spree is different to a mass shooting because of timing and locations) and end up with a large ‘exit’ because law enforcement have finally caught up with them and there is no turning back and no going forward for the perpetrator… not that they ever considered they would.

this happens in sprees and mass shootings.. too often.

A talking head on the drum was saying never report their names on the media. Dunno if that would work, it would get into social media and not sure the commercial stuff could resist an exclusive where they reveal all.

Plus it’s a major assumption that they want larger notoriety, they might just want a grand exit as a fuck you to family and friends. And maybe shoot us some work mates.

I think the ‘getting into the media’ part is actually not a major consideration for most of them. There are other motivating factors that are more pressing to them at the time.

Tau.Neutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

Arts said:

the scary part is that many mass shootings barely get a mention now. Just the ones that ‘break records’

there is a whole psychological field on people who choose to ‘go out in glory’. They want , what is now a very common term – Death by cop. And they go on a spree (a spree is different to a mass shooting because of timing and locations) and end up with a large ‘exit’ because law enforcement have finally caught up with them and there is no turning back and no going forward for the perpetrator… not that they ever considered they would.

this happens in sprees and mass shootings.. too often.

A talking head on the drum was saying never report their names on the media. Dunno if that would work, it would get into social media and not sure the commercial stuff could resist an exclusive where they reveal all.

Plus it’s a major assumption that they want larger notoriety, they might just want a grand exit as a fuck you to family and friends. And maybe shoot us some work mates.

I would like to see mass killers and terrorists given no media attention, if they want fame and use killing people to do it, take it away from them.

Fine in theory but I don’t think it will work in the real world. You would have to impose bans enforced with penalties on the media and no way will the Americans cop that. And it wouldn’t effect the social media.

Arts said:

AwesomeO said:

Arts said:

the scary part is that many mass shootings barely get a mention now. Just the ones that ‘break records’

there is a whole psychological field on people who choose to ‘go out in glory’. They want , what is now a very common term – Death by cop. And they go on a spree (a spree is different to a mass shooting because of timing and locations) and end up with a large ‘exit’ because law enforcement have finally caught up with them and there is no turning back and no going forward for the perpetrator… not that they ever considered they would.

this happens in sprees and mass shootings.. too often.

A talking head on the drum was saying never report their names on the media. Dunno if that would work, it would get into social media and not sure the commercial stuff could resist an exclusive where they reveal all.

Plus it’s a major assumption that they want larger notoriety, they might just want a grand exit as a fuck you to family and friends. And maybe shoot us some work mates.

I think the ‘getting into the media’ part is actually not a major consideration for most of them. There are other motivating factors that are more pressing to them at the time.

Yup, that’s why I said it was a major assumption. If media notoriety was a major factor then they would court it, maybe in a hijacking situation and they would want to hang around to see the reports and its impact.

Arts said:

AwesomeO said:

Arts said:

the scary part is that many mass shootings barely get a mention now. Just the ones that ‘break records’

there is a whole psychological field on people who choose to ‘go out in glory’. They want , what is now a very common term – Death by cop. And they go on a spree (a spree is different to a mass shooting because of timing and locations) and end up with a large ‘exit’ because law enforcement have finally caught up with them and there is no turning back and no going forward for the perpetrator… not that they ever considered they would.

this happens in sprees and mass shootings.. too often.

A talking head on the drum was saying never report their names on the media. Dunno if that would work, it would get into social media and not sure the commercial stuff could resist an exclusive where they reveal all.

Plus it’s a major assumption that they want larger notoriety, they might just want a grand exit as a fuck you to family and friends. And maybe shoot us some work mates.

I think the ‘getting into the media’ part is actually not a major consideration for most of them. There are other motivating factors that are more pressing to them at the time.

I would think negative emotions plays a large part in their evil work.

Being emotionally connected to any combination of negative social ideals, negative political ideals, negative religious concepts does not help either.

When metal illness takes control of people, negative concepts can become distorted, raw emotion of anger and hate can really distort rational thinking.

AwesomeO said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

A talking head on the drum was saying never report their names on the media. Dunno if that would work, it would get into social media and not sure the commercial stuff could resist an exclusive where they reveal all.

Plus it’s a major assumption that they want larger notoriety, they might just want a grand exit as a fuck you to family and friends. And maybe shoot us some work mates.

I would like to see mass killers and terrorists given no media attention, if they want fame and use killing people to do it, take it away from them.

Fine in theory but I don’t think it will work in the real world. You would have to impose bans enforced with penalties on the media and no way will the Americans cop that. And it wouldn’t effect the social media.

I would like to see it trialed somewhere around the world so we can see if it works or not.