Date: 15/10/2017 19:39:59
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1132624
Subject: Can we teach robots ethics?

Can we teach robots ethics?

We are not used to the idea of machines making ethical decisions, but the day when they will routinely do this – by themselves – is fast approaching. So how, asks the BBC’s David Edmonds, will we teach them to do the right thing?

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Date: 15/10/2017 19:48:36
From: transition
ID: 1132627
Subject: re: Can we teach robots ethics?

read half that article

fucken terrible came out my mouth, quietly

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Date: 15/10/2017 19:54:57
From: dv
ID: 1132630
Subject: re: Can we teach robots ethics?

Tau.Neutrino said:


Can we teach robots ethics?

We are not used to the idea of machines making ethical decisions, but the day when they will routinely do this – by themselves – is fast approaching. So how, asks the BBC’s David Edmonds, will we teach them to do the right thing?

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Can we teach humans ethics

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Date: 15/10/2017 19:58:08
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1132633
Subject: re: Can we teach robots ethics?

dv said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Can we teach robots ethics?

We are not used to the idea of machines making ethical decisions, but the day when they will routinely do this – by themselves – is fast approaching. So how, asks the BBC’s David Edmonds, will we teach them to do the right thing?

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Can we teach humans ethics

Can we teach humans to correctly use a question mark?

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Date: 15/10/2017 20:02:42
From: transition
ID: 1132635
Subject: re: Can we teach robots ethics?

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Can we teach robots ethics?

We are not used to the idea of machines making ethical decisions, but the day when they will routinely do this – by themselves – is fast approaching. So how, asks the BBC’s David Edmonds, will we teach them to do the right thing?

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Can we teach humans ethics

Can we teach humans to correctly use a question mark?

would it be superfluous

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Date: 15/10/2017 20:03:47
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1132636
Subject: re: Can we teach robots ethics?

transition said:


read half that article

fucken terrible came out my mouth, quietly

I read it all and thought it was OK.

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Date: 15/10/2017 20:06:04
From: transition
ID: 1132639
Subject: re: Can we teach robots ethics?

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

read half that article

fucken terrible came out my mouth, quietly

I read it all and thought it was OK.

that’s good.

too much lurching enthusiasm, but i’m a burn out

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Date: 15/10/2017 20:13:27
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1132645
Subject: re: Can we teach robots ethics?

transition said:


Bubblecar said:

transition said:

read half that article

fucken terrible came out my mouth, quietly

I read it all and thought it was OK.

that’s good.

too much lurching enthusiasm, but i’m a burn out

Some people might appreciate the self driving car after working all day.

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Date: 15/10/2017 21:28:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1132711
Subject: re: Can we teach robots ethics?

¿can we teach humans?

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Date: 15/10/2017 22:41:31
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1132746
Subject: re: Can we teach robots ethics?

dv said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Can we teach robots ethics?

We are not used to the idea of machines making ethical decisions, but the day when they will routinely do this – by themselves – is fast approaching. So how, asks the BBC’s David Edmonds, will we teach them to do the right thing?

more…

Can we teach humans ethics

Yes. It was done in ancient Greece. Not done nearly often enough these days.

I happened to stumble on a university subject using a book on practical modern ethics. The book was in the Monash Uni bookshop.

Monash Uni AZA2939 – Ethics and the modern world
Synopsis

The unit adopts a global perspective but looks at issues through a South African and African lens. The theories of utilitarianism and deontology will be examined and judged according to ethical dilemmas that arise within the country. Key to this examination will be a discussion of the role of friendship and family within ethical decision-making. A major focus of discussion is the opposition between consequentialist theories, such as utilitarianism, which judge rightness and wrongness solely in terms of consequences, and the Kantian theory of deontology which judges rightness and wrongness according to whether the act is in accordance with rational will. The question that will guide this discussion is whether these theories can account for the agent-centred reasons which arise from relations of love and friendship and which seem to have the potential to conflict with impartial moral requirements?

Because utilitarianism, on which our British legal system is based, relies on mathematics of Bentham, it thus seems to be programmable.

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Date: 16/10/2017 01:33:29
From: transition
ID: 1132766
Subject: re: Can we teach robots ethics?

I will always be puzzled by the human predilection for piloting vehicles at unsafe velocities

Data

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Date: 16/10/2017 01:40:30
From: transition
ID: 1132767
Subject: re: Can we teach robots ethics?

transition said:


I will always be puzzled by the human predilection for piloting vehicles at unsafe velocities

Data

of course what Star Trek didn’t tell you was that most people don’t most of the time, they’re shuffling around bipedal, or maybe sitting on the sofa watching Star Trek, or asleep.

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Date: 16/10/2017 07:41:40
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1132776
Subject: re: Can we teach robots ethics?

mollwollfumble said:


Because utilitarianism, on which our British legal system is based, relies on mathematics of Bentham, it thus seems to be programmable.

To suggest that an entire legal system is based on the mathematics of a single person is a ridiculous over-simplification, if I may be so bold.

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Date: 16/10/2017 07:48:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1132778
Subject: re: Can we teach robots ethics?

There doesn’t seem to be unilateral comprehension of ethics amongst humans yet.

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Date: 16/10/2017 09:39:11
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1132801
Subject: re: Can we teach robots ethics?

roughbarked said:


There doesn’t seem to be unilateral comprehension of ethics amongst humans yet.

What do you mean?

There are billions of them, all different :)

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Date: 16/10/2017 10:24:51
From: dv
ID: 1132812
Subject: re: Can we teach robots ethics?

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

Because utilitarianism, on which our British legal system is based, relies on mathematics of Bentham, it thus seems to be programmable.

To suggest that an entire legal system is based on the mathematics of a single person is a ridiculous over-simplification, if I may be so bold.

British constitutive law is mainly based on the Act of Settlement, which was signed before Bentham’s birth

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Date: 16/10/2017 11:44:27
From: transition
ID: 1132849
Subject: re: Can we teach robots ethics?

mostly the law provides a lawful space to operate in

ethics much the same, you know it’s about (safe-ish) operating space

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