There’s a lot being said on the internet, including here on the forum.

Remember….reach out to one of the many organisations that can help, if you need to.

Maybe someone could put up some contacts? I’m on the tablet with the crazy predictive text thing.

Take care and know that people can help.

#Ineedmoneytoo

Be an ally. Listen to complaints, take them seriously. Tell your kids that you’ll be on their side, and that you’ll believe them about abuse. Be as frank as possible with them about abuse and harrassment: how frank that will be will depend on age but don’t be so vague that they don’t know what you’re talking about. Teach your sons to have platonic friendships with girls, so that they view them firstly as people, rather than targets or enemies or “mysteries”.

dv said:

Be an ally. Listen to complaints, take them seriously. Tell your kids that you’ll be on their side, and that you’ll believe them about abuse. Be as frank as possible with them about abuse and harrassment: how frank that will be will depend on age but don’t be so vague that they don’t know what you’re talking about. Teach your sons to have platonic friendships with girls, so that they view them firstly as people, rather than targets or enemies or “mysteries”.

Send them to an all-boys school for a good all round social education.

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

Be an ally. Listen to complaints, take them seriously. Tell your kids that you’ll be on their side, and that you’ll believe them about abuse. Be as frank as possible with them about abuse and harrassment: how frank that will be will depend on age but don’t be so vague that they don’t know what you’re talking about. Teach your sons to have platonic friendships with girls, so that they view them firstly as people, rather than targets or enemies or “mysteries”.

Send them to an all-boys school for a good all round social education.

One run by a bunch of religious brothers

You can try hard to be a comic about this. But you will always fail. It isn’t funny.

sarahs mum said:

You can try hard to be a comic about this. But you will always fail. It isn’t funny.

+1.

ChrispenEvan said:

sarahs mum said:

You can try hard to be a comic about this. But you will always fail. It isn’t funny.

+1.

More that organisations people would think of as safe are the opposite, school just for boys run by Christian men are more likely to have sexual abuse because its such an unnatural set up

sarahs mum said:

You can try hard to be a comic about this. But you will always fail. It isn’t funny.

Well said sm.

I don’t know how much longer this website will be up, but I found it invaluable.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/support-services

Onya Wocky!

:)

#Ineedhugstoo

:)

Lamb casserole now in the oven while I relax with a cab sauv.

Was going to finish unpacking all the kitchen stuff tonight but that can wait until tomorrow.

Sorry :/

Bubblecar said:

Sorry :/

S’o.k.

You good kid.

Michael V said:

Onya Wocky!

:)

Good to see you Wocky.

Tau.Neutrino said:

#Ineedhugstoo

:)

:(

Sorry. Under the circumstances this just reads as creepy.

sarahs mum said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

#Ineedhugstoo

:)

:(

Sorry. Under the circumstances this just reads as creepy.

ok, but I’m not really creepy.

I thought me too and people = hugs.

dv said:

Be an ally. Listen to complaints, take them seriously. Tell your kids that you’ll be on their side, and that you’ll believe them about abuse. Be as frank as possible with them about abuse and harrassment: how frank that will be will depend on age but don’t be so vague that they don’t know what you’re talking about. Teach your sons to have platonic friendships with girls, so that they view them firstly as people, rather than targets or enemies or “mysteries”.

This. All of this.

Also, men really need to step up and stop with the jokes about women that belittle them. Especially jokes with a level of “funny” violence….like locking a woman outside of her home. In the rain.

sarahs mum said:

You can try hard to be a comic about this. But you will always fail. It isn’t funny.

exactly, sm :)

Especially now, there are many people having a hard time because of the intense scrutiny in the media of sexual abuse and harassment. Lots of people who have been attacked don’t say anything, but when the news and social media are full of all the horrors about other people’s experiences, it can provoke a response that is overwhelming and intensely horrible.

If someone does disclose to you about being sexually abused please be discrete about that information.
Don’t go blabbing to the neighbours or some random dude that you’re doing a plumbing job for.

Grrrrrrr…….yes, that’s what my former partner did :(

Wocky said:

I don’t know how much longer this website will be up, but I found it invaluable.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/support-services

Thank you.

kii said:

dv said:

Be an ally. Listen to complaints, take them seriously. Tell your kids that you’ll be on their side, and that you’ll believe them about abuse. Be as frank as possible with them about abuse and harrassment: how frank that will be will depend on age but don’t be so vague that they don’t know what you’re talking about. Teach your sons to have platonic friendships with girls, so that they view them firstly as people, rather than targets or enemies or “mysteries”.

This. All of this.

Also, men really need to step up and stop with the jokes about women that belittle them. Especially jokes with a level of “funny” violence….like locking a woman outside of her home. In the rain.

Get a life kii! You obviously think you are the only one who has had a hard life, well probably most people here have stories to tell too.

PermeateFree said:

kii said:

dv said:

Be an ally. Listen to complaints, take them seriously. Tell your kids that you’ll be on their side, and that you’ll believe them about abuse. Be as frank as possible with them about abuse and harrassment: how frank that will be will depend on age but don’t be so vague that they don’t know what you’re talking about. Teach your sons to have platonic friendships with girls, so that they view them firstly as people, rather than targets or enemies or “mysteries”.

This. All of this.

Also, men really need to step up and stop with the jokes about women that belittle them. Especially jokes with a level of “funny” violence….like locking a woman outside of her home. In the rain.

Get a life kii! You obviously think you are the only one who has had a hard life, well probably most people here have stories to tell too.

Oh great….
I am very well aware how wide spread abuse is, PF.
How about you take a step back?

PermeateFree said:

kii said:

dv said:

Be an ally. Listen to complaints, take them seriously. Tell your kids that you’ll be on their side, and that you’ll believe them about abuse. Be as frank as possible with them about abuse and harrassment: how frank that will be will depend on age but don’t be so vague that they don’t know what you’re talking about. Teach your sons to have platonic friendships with girls, so that they view them firstly as people, rather than targets or enemies or “mysteries”.

This. All of this.

Also, men really need to step up and stop with the jokes about women that belittle them. Especially jokes with a level of “funny” violence….like locking a woman outside of her home. In the rain.

Get a life kii! You obviously think you are the only one who has had a hard life, well probably most people here have stories to tell too.

“Be an ally. Listen to complaints, take them seriously. “

sarahs mum said:

PermeateFree said:

kii said:

This. All of this.

Also, men really need to step up and stop with the jokes about women that belittle them. Especially jokes with a level of “funny” violence….like locking a woman outside of her home. In the rain.

Get a life kii! You obviously think you are the only one who has had a hard life, well probably most people here have stories to tell too.

“Be an ally. Listen to complaints, take them seriously. “

A good test is to reverse the genders in these sexist jokes & honestly ask yourself it is funny.

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

PermeateFree said:

Get a life kii! You obviously think you are the only one who has had a hard life, well probably most people here have stories to tell too.

“Be an ally. Listen to complaints, take them seriously. “

A good test is to reverse the genders in these sexist jokes & honestly ask yourself it is funny.

Oops: yourself * if* it is funny

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

PermeateFree said:

Get a life kii! You obviously think you are the only one who has had a hard life, well probably most people here have stories to tell too.

“Be an ally. Listen to complaints, take them seriously. “

A good test is to reverse the genders in these sexist jokes & honestly ask yourself it is funny.

There are thousands of jokes out there that send up males and just about anything else. Hopefully they will be around for many more years and with Boris’s help, no doubt they will.

PermeateFree said:

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

“Be an ally. Listen to complaints, take them seriously. “

A good test is to reverse the genders in these sexist jokes & honestly ask yourself it is funny.

There are thousands of jokes out there that send up males and just about anything else. Hopefully they will be around for many more years and with Boris’s help, no doubt they will.

I was thinking more of people who are offended by such types of jokes. Often they are pleased by the gender reversed version. i.e. they are hypocrites.

Tamb said:

PermeateFree said:

Tamb said:

A good test is to reverse the genders in these sexist jokes & honestly ask yourself it is funny.

There are thousands of jokes out there that send up males and just about anything else. Hopefully they will be around for many more years and with Boris’s help, no doubt they will.

I was thinking more of people who are offended by such types of jokes. Often they are pleased by the gender reversed version. i.e. they are hypocrites.

There are always people being offended by something.

PermeateFree said:

Tamb said:

PermeateFree said:

There are thousands of jokes out there that send up males and just about anything else. Hopefully they will be around for many more years and with Boris’s help, no doubt they will.

I was thinking more of people who are offended by such types of jokes. Often they are pleased by the gender reversed version. i.e. they are hypocrites.

There are always people being offended by something.

PermeateFree said:

Tamb said:

PermeateFree said:

There are thousands of jokes out there that send up males and just about anything else. Hopefully they will be around for many more years and with Boris’s help, no doubt they will.

I was thinking more of people who are offended by such types of jokes. Often they are pleased by the gender reversed version. i.e. they are hypocrites.

There are always people being offended by something.

A family is having dinner at the table one evening when the son asks the father, “Dad, how many different kinds of boobs are there?”

The father is a little taken aback, but he ponders for a moment before answering, “Well my son, a woman goes through three phases in life. In her 20s, her breasts are like melons, round and firm. In her 30s and 40s, they become like pears – still nice but hanging a bit. But after 50-60s, her breasts become like onions.”

The son is confused and asks, “Onions?”

The father replies, “Yes – you see them and they make you cry.”

The mother heard this and was offended so she turned to the son and asked, “Did you know penises come in 3 varieties!” A Man goes through three phases in life. In his 20s, he’s like an oak tree- solid and firm. In his 30s and 40s, he like a willow tree – still firm but bends a bit. But after 50-60s, he’s like a Christmas Tree”!!.

The son is confused and asks, “A Christmas Tree ?”

The mother replies, “Yes – you see – dead from the trunk UP !!

…. and the balls are there JUST for decoration !! “

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Tamb said:

There are always people being offended by something.

A family is having dinner at the table one evening when the son asks the father, “Dad, how many different kinds of boobs are there?”

The father is a little taken aback, but he ponders for a moment before answering, “Well my son, a woman goes through three phases in life. In her 20s, her breasts are like melons, round and firm. In her 30s and 40s, they become like pears – still nice but hanging a bit. But after 50-60s, her breasts become like onions.”

The son is confused and asks, “Onions?”

The father replies, “Yes – you see them and they make you cry.”

The mother heard this and was offended so she turned to the son and asked, “Did you know penises come in 3 varieties!” A Man goes through three phases in life. In his 20s, he’s like an oak tree- solid and firm. In his 30s and 40s, he like a willow tree – still firm but bends a bit. But after 50-60s, he’s like a Christmas Tree”!!.

The son is confused and asks, “A Christmas Tree ?”

The mother replies, “Yes – you see – dead from the trunk UP !!

…. and the balls are there JUST for decoration !! “

I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure that is neither funny nor appropriate..

diddly-squat said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

A family is having dinner at the table one evening when the son asks the father, “Dad, how many different kinds of boobs are there?”

The father is a little taken aback, but he ponders for a moment before answering, “Well my son, a woman goes through three phases in life. In her 20s, her breasts are like melons, round and firm. In her 30s and 40s, they become like pears – still nice but hanging a bit. But after 50-60s, her breasts become like onions.”

The son is confused and asks, “Onions?”

The father replies, “Yes – you see them and they make you cry.”

The mother heard this and was offended so she turned to the son and asked, “Did you know penises come in 3 varieties!” A Man goes through three phases in life. In his 20s, he’s like an oak tree- solid and firm. In his 30s and 40s, he like a willow tree – still firm but bends a bit. But after 50-60s, he’s like a Christmas Tree”!!.

The son is confused and asks, “A Christmas Tree ?”

The mother replies, “Yes – you see – dead from the trunk UP !!

…. and the balls are there JUST for decoration !! “

I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure that is neither funny nor appropriate..

There are always people being offended by something.

diddly-squat said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

A family is having dinner at the table one evening when the son asks the father, “Dad, how many different kinds of boobs are there?”

The father is a little taken aback, but he ponders for a moment before answering, “Well my son, a woman goes through three phases in life. In her 20s, her breasts are like melons, round and firm. In her 30s and 40s, they become like pears – still nice but hanging a bit. But after 50-60s, her breasts become like onions.”

The son is confused and asks, “Onions?”

The father replies, “Yes – you see them and they make you cry.”

The mother heard this and was offended so she turned to the son and asked, “Did you know penises come in 3 varieties!” A Man goes through three phases in life. In his 20s, he’s like an oak tree- solid and firm. In his 30s and 40s, he like a willow tree – still firm but bends a bit. But after 50-60s, he’s like a Christmas Tree”!!.

The son is confused and asks, “A Christmas Tree ?”

The mother replies, “Yes – you see – dead from the trunk UP !!

…. and the balls are there JUST for decoration !! “

I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure that is neither funny nor appropriate..

Yep. That’s what I thought too.

PermeateFree said:

diddly-squat said:

roughbarked said:

I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure that is neither funny nor appropriate..

There are always people being offended by something.

Yep. That’s what I thought too.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

diddly-squat said:

I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure that is neither funny nor appropriate..

There are always people being offended by something.

Yep. That’s what I thought too.

I get offended by people being offended about things that are obviously made up to offend but aren’t actually true or real

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

There are always people being offended by something.

Yep. That’s what I thought too.

I get offended by people being offended about things that are obviously made up to offend but aren’t actually true or real

Diddy also believes in “clean coal.” What could be more offensive than that?

PermeateFree said:

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Yep. That’s what I thought too.

I get offended by people being offended about things that are obviously made up to offend but aren’t actually true or real

Diddy also believes in “clean coal.” What could be more offensive than that?

Some people are simply deluded. As such, they are not being deliberately offensive.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Cymek said:

I get offended by people being offended about things that are obviously made up to offend but aren’t actually true or real

Diddy also believes in “clean coal.” What could be more offensive than that?

Some people are simply deluded. As such, they are not being deliberately offensive.

Yeah, we live in complex times.

I think the focus on offensiveness, people being offended, is a red herring. We’re in a bad place at the moment, in gender relations, with sexual harrassment being experienced nearly universally and sexual assault fairly common. What can we do to improve this culture? Have a bit of a think about whether your comments are going to help this situation or make it worse.

dv said:

I think the focus on offensiveness, people being offended, is a red herring. We’re in a bad place at the moment, in gender relations, with sexual harrassment being experienced nearly universally and sexual assault fairly common. What can we do to improve this culture? Have a bit of a think about whether your comments are going to help this situation or make it worse.

Bring back the cane……………………some women like it.

dv said:

I think the focus on offensiveness, people being offended, is a red herring. We’re in a bad place at the moment, in gender relations, with sexual harrassment being experienced nearly universally and sexual assault fairly common. What can we do to improve this culture? Have a bit of a think about whether your comments are going to help this situation or make it worse.

Well the first step, is that no matter how offensive someone deliberately acts, the act of being offended comes solely down to yourself.

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

I think the focus on offensiveness, people being offended, is a red herring. We’re in a bad place at the moment, in gender relations, with sexual harrassment being experienced nearly universally and sexual assault fairly common. What can we do to improve this culture? Have a bit of a think about whether your comments are going to help this situation or make it worse.

Bring back the cane……………………some women like it.

https://theconversation.com/psychology-behind-the-unfunny-consequences-of-jokes-that-denigrate-63855

roughbarked said:

dv said:

I think the focus on offensiveness, people being offended, is a red herring. We’re in a bad place at the moment, in gender relations, with sexual harrassment being experienced nearly universally and sexual assault fairly common. What can we do to improve this culture? Have a bit of a think about whether your comments are going to help this situation or make it worse.

Well the first step, is that no matter how offensive someone deliberately acts, the act of being offended comes solely down to yourself.

even the victim?

roughbarked said:

dv said:

I think the focus on offensiveness, people being offended, is a red herring. We’re in a bad place at the moment, in gender relations, with sexual harrassment being experienced nearly universally and sexual assault fairly common. What can we do to improve this culture? Have a bit of a think about whether your comments are going to help this situation or make it worse.

Well the first step, is that no matter how offensive someone deliberately acts, the act of being offended comes solely down to yourself.

but we’re not talking about woman being offended… we’re talking about woman being harassed and assaulted

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

I think the focus on offensiveness, people being offended, is a red herring. We’re in a bad place at the moment, in gender relations, with sexual harrassment being experienced nearly universally and sexual assault fairly common. What can we do to improve this culture? Have a bit of a think about whether your comments are going to help this situation or make it worse.

Well the first step, is that no matter how offensive someone deliberately acts, the act of being offended comes solely down to yourself.

even the victim?

Ah well if their offense is fatal, the victim is hardly likely to be worried about being offended.

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

Well the first step, is that no matter how offensive someone deliberately acts, the act of being offended comes solely down to yourself.

even the victim?

Ah well if their offense is fatal, the victim is hardly likely to be worried about being offended.

what?

George Soros has just transferred 18 billion dollars, the bulk of his remaining wealth, to the Open Societies Foundation, a philantrhopic organisation.

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

Well the first step, is that no matter how offensive someone deliberately acts, the act of being offended comes solely down to yourself.

even the victim?

Ah well if their offense is fatal, the victim is hardly likely to be worried about being offended.

That’s my point. Forget about “offence”. There are reasons to avoid telling demeaning jokes that have nothing to do with offence.

diddly-squat said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

I think the focus on offensiveness, people being offended, is a red herring. We’re in a bad place at the moment, in gender relations, with sexual harrassment being experienced nearly universally and sexual assault fairly common. What can we do to improve this culture? Have a bit of a think about whether your comments are going to help this situation or make it worse.

Well the first step, is that no matter how offensive someone deliberately acts, the act of being offended comes solely down to yourself.

but we’re not talking about woman being offended… we’re talking about woman being harassed and assaulted

Only women?

I did have to laugh though..

the hashtag ‘metoo’ being all about sexual harrassment and abuse and tau’s answer?.. soliciting hugs…

roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

roughbarked said:

Well the first step, is that no matter how offensive someone deliberately acts, the act of being offended comes solely down to yourself.

but we’re not talking about woman being offended… we’re talking about woman being harassed and assaulted

Only women?

all lives matter.

Stumpy_seahorse said:

I did have to laugh though..

the hashtag ‘metoo’ being all about sexual harrassment and abuse and tau’s answer?.. soliciting hugs…

He’s graduated form the days of creepy staring.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

even the victim?

Ah well if their offense is fatal, the victim is hardly likely to be worried about being offended.

That’s my point. Forget about “offence”. There are reasons to avoid telling demeaning jokes that have nothing to do with offence.

Glad we can agree.

roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

roughbarked said:

Well the first step, is that no matter how offensive someone deliberately acts, the act of being offended comes solely down to yourself.

but we’re not talking about woman being offended… we’re talking about woman being harassed and assaulted

Only women?

well of course there are cases where males have been harassed and assaulted but the #metoo campaign is specifically about the systemic harassment and abuse of woman by men to the point where the behavior has been normalised.

Stumpy_seahorse said:

I did have to laugh though..

the hashtag ‘metoo’ being all about sexual harrassment and abuse and tau’s answer?.. soliciting hugs…

I think they call the photo with the dog and hugs sign………………..grooming!

Stumpy_seahorse said:

I did have to laugh though..

the hashtag ‘metoo’ being all about sexual harrassment and abuse and tau’s answer?.. soliciting hugs…

His first post was about soliciting money. He believes that these people complaining of sexual assault are doing so for monetary gain.

dv said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

I did have to laugh though..

the hashtag ‘metoo’ being all about sexual harrassment and abuse and tau’s answer?.. soliciting hugs…

His first post was about soliciting money. He believes that these people complaining of sexual assault are doing so for monetary gain.

more and more so, lawyers inform us that we can litigate.

dv said:

I think the focus on offensiveness, people being offended, is a red herring. We’re in a bad place at the moment, in gender relations, with sexual harrassment being experienced nearly universally and sexual assault fairly common. What can we do to improve this culture? Have a bit of a think about whether your comments are going to help this situation or make it worse.

Say’s what I was thinking, only better.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

I think the focus on offensiveness, people being offended, is a red herring. We’re in a bad place at the moment, in gender relations, with sexual harrassment being experienced nearly universally and sexual assault fairly common. What can we do to improve this culture? Have a bit of a think about whether your comments are going to help this situation or make it worse.

Say’s what I was thinking, only better.

+1

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

I think the focus on offensiveness, people being offended, is a red herring. We’re in a bad place at the moment, in gender relations, with sexual harrassment being experienced nearly universally and sexual assault fairly common. What can we do to improve this culture? Have a bit of a think about whether your comments are going to help this situation or make it worse.

Say’s what I was thinking, only better.

Like now is not the time to talk about it?

When, its really ok to talk about it, anytime.

Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

I think the focus on offensiveness, people being offended, is a red herring. We’re in a bad place at the moment, in gender relations, with sexual harrassment being experienced nearly universally and sexual assault fairly common. What can we do to improve this culture? Have a bit of a think about whether your comments are going to help this situation or make it worse.

Say’s what I was thinking, only better.

Like now is not the time to talk about it?

When, its really ok to talk about it, anytime.

Eh?

I don’t see how you can possibly get that message from those words?

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Say’s what I was thinking, only better.

Like now is not the time to talk about it?

When, its really ok to talk about it, anytime.

Eh?

I don’t see how you can possibly get that message from those words?

People can understand things better with more information.

Is that bad?

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Say’s what I was thinking, only better.

Like now is not the time to talk about it?

When, its really ok to talk about it, anytime.

Eh?

I don’t see how you can possibly get that message from those words?

I was … wondering too.

Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Like now is not the time to talk about it?

When, its really ok to talk about it, anytime.

Eh?

I don’t see how you can possibly get that message from those words?

People can understand things better with more information.

Is that bad?

Too much information means what don’t you understand about the word, no?

Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Like now is not the time to talk about it?

When, its really ok to talk about it, anytime.

Eh?

I don’t see how you can possibly get that message from those words?

People can understand things better with more information.

Is that bad?

Did anyone suggest that it was bad?

Maybe I don’t understand what this thread is about.

I’m ok with that.

I don’t have to understand everything.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Eh?

I don’t see how you can possibly get that message from those words?

People can understand things better with more information.

Is that bad?

Did anyone suggest that it was bad?

drugs are bad… mkay?…

Tau.Neutrino said:

Maybe I don’t understand what this thread is about.

I’m ok with that.

I don’t have to understand everything.

Well, apparently it began about a group of women wanting to bring an end to this sexual harassement offensiveness.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Maybe I don’t understand what this thread is about.

I’m ok with that.

I don’t have to understand everything.

Understanding anything would be a start.

Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

I think the focus on offensiveness, people being offended, is a red herring. We’re in a bad place at the moment, in gender relations, with sexual harrassment being experienced nearly universally and sexual assault fairly common. What can we do to improve this culture? Have a bit of a think about whether your comments are going to help this situation or make it worse.

Say’s what I was thinking, only better.

Like now is not the time to talk about it?

When, its really ok to talk about it, anytime.

We ARE talking about it

dv said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Say’s what I was thinking, only better.

Like now is not the time to talk about it?

When, its really ok to talk about it, anytime.

We ARE talking about it

That part gave him a headache.

roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Maybe I don’t understand what this thread is about.

I’m ok with that.

I don’t have to understand everything.

Well, apparently it began about a group of women wanting to bring an end to this sexual harassement offensiveness.

The metoo hashtag is to bring an awareness of how widespread sexual harassement is.
If your newsfeed is filled with #metoo then people become aware of how many people have endured some form of sexual harassment. It can be anything from a wolf whistle to physical sexual assault (not that there is a scale to sexual harassment – but you know what I mean)

A big thank you to the men posting in this thread who understand what the #MeToo thing is all about, and have posted their thought. It is having an effect, a really good one.

To the men who have posted here who don’t understand, are not ready to understand, I hope that this thread may lead to change.

To all my sisters, hugs and thanks. #MeToo.
Heres to Tarana Burke who kicked this off ten years ago.

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Maybe I don’t understand what this thread is about.

I’m ok with that.

I don’t have to understand everything.

Well, apparently it began about a group of women wanting to bring an end to this sexual harassement offensiveness.

The metoo hashtag is to bring an awareness of how widespread sexual harassement is.
If your newsfeed is filled with #metoo then people become aware of how many people have endured some form of sexual harassment. It can be anything from a wolf whistle to physical sexual assault (not that there is a scale to sexual harassment – but you know what I mean)

What you girls need is a hulking great bloke to accompany you.

ruby said:

A big thank you to the men posting in this thread who understand what the #MeToo thing is all about, and have posted their thought. It is having an effect, a really good one.

To the men who have posted here who don’t understand, are not ready to understand, I hope that this thread may lead to change.

To all my sisters, hugs and thanks. #MeToo.
Heres to Tarana Burke who kicked this off ten years ago.

Thanks. I work with a wonderful family of women.

“Me too… If all the women who have been sexually harassed or assaulted wrote ‘Me too’ as a status, we might give people a sense of the magnitude of the problem. Please copy/paste.”

it says nothing about doing anything to stop it, just about making it known exactly how widespread sexual harassment is.

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

A big thank you to the men posting in this thread who understand what the #MeToo thing is all about, and have posted their thought. It is having an effect, a really good one.

To the men who have posted here who don’t understand, are not ready to understand, I hope that this thread may lead to change.

To all my sisters, hugs and thanks. #MeToo.
Heres to Tarana Burke who kicked this off ten years ago.

Thanks. I work with a wonderful family of women.

Does my dog count?

Arts said:

“Me too… If all the women who have been sexually harassed or assaulted wrote ‘Me too’ as a status, we might give people a sense of the magnitude of the problem. Please copy/paste.”

it says nothing about doing anything to stop it, just about making it known exactly how widespread sexual harassment is.

And as usual, the ones who get the message had already got it decades before.

Arts said:

“Me too… If all the women who have been sexually harassed or assaulted wrote ‘Me too’ as a status, we might give people a sense of the magnitude of the problem. Please copy/paste.”

it says nothing about doing anything to stop it, just about making it known exactly how widespread sexual harassment is.

This.
The #MeToo made me stop and take stock of all my women friends, all my family members, who have stories. And that’s just the ones that they felt strong enough to talk about. They would really be a small percentage.

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

A big thank you to the men posting in this thread who understand what the #MeToo thing is all about, and have posted their thought. It is having an effect, a really good one.

To the men who have posted here who don’t understand, are not ready to understand, I hope that this thread may lead to change.

To all my sisters, hugs and thanks. #MeToo.
Heres to Tarana Burke who kicked this off ten years ago.

Thanks. I work with a wonderful family of women.

Does my dog count?

Do you respect her femininity?

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

“Me too… If all the women who have been sexually harassed or assaulted wrote ‘Me too’ as a status, we might give people a sense of the magnitude of the problem. Please copy/paste.”

it says nothing about doing anything to stop it, just about making it known exactly how widespread sexual harassment is.

And as usual, the ones who get the message had already got it decades before.

well, I think the point is to let people know that it can (and does) happen to everyone, and that no form of sexual harassment is ‘ok’. If you see a me too hashtag, then it might be your mother, sister, daughter, wife. And it could have been perpetrated by your son, father, brother or husband* – not all sexual harassment is physical, it could be a comment in the street, a ‘joke’ that triggers a self loathing later.

*I am a little put off by the gender thing, because obviously it also happens to men – but perhaps in different forms? Maybe they need a hashtag too

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

“Me too… If all the women who have been sexually harassed or assaulted wrote ‘Me too’ as a status, we might give people a sense of the magnitude of the problem. Please copy/paste.”

it says nothing about doing anything to stop it, just about making it known exactly how widespread sexual harassment is.

And as usual, the ones who get the message had already got it decades before.

well, I think the point is to let people know that it can (and does) happen to everyone, and that no form of sexual harassment is ‘ok’. If you see a me too hashtag, then it might be your mother, sister, daughter, wife. And it could have been perpetrated by your son, father, brother or husband* – not all sexual harassment is physical, it could be a comment in the street, a ‘joke’ that triggers a self loathing later.

*I am a little put off by the gender thing, because obviously it also happens to men – but perhaps in different forms? Maybe they need a hashtag too

Yeah, we do. I recall a long while back that in WA there was a “Men’s Liberation” group start up. Don’t know if it ever went anywhere.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Thanks. I work with a wonderful family of women.

Does my dog count?

Do you respect her femininity?

Absolutely, I even look the other way when she goes to the toilet.

PermeateFree said:

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Well, apparently it began about a group of women wanting to bring an end to this sexual harassement offensiveness.

The metoo hashtag is to bring an awareness of how widespread sexual harassement is.
If your newsfeed is filled with #metoo then people become aware of how many people have endured some form of sexual harassment. It can be anything from a wolf whistle to physical sexual assault (not that there is a scale to sexual harassment – but you know what I mean)

What you girls need is a hulking great bloke to accompany you.

I was once accompanied by a hulking great bloke. Everyone talks of him as being gentle giant type.

He raped me.

Still laughing?

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

“Me too… If all the women who have been sexually harassed or assaulted wrote ‘Me too’ as a status, we might give people a sense of the magnitude of the problem. Please copy/paste.”

it says nothing about doing anything to stop it, just about making it known exactly how widespread sexual harassment is.

And as usual, the ones who get the message had already got it decades before.

well, I think the point is to let people know that it can (and does) happen to everyone, and that no form of sexual harassment is ‘ok’. If you see a me too hashtag, then it might be your mother, sister, daughter, wife. And it could have been perpetrated by your son, father, brother or husband* – not all sexual harassment is physical, it could be a comment in the street, a ‘joke’ that triggers a self loathing later.

*I am a little put off by the gender thing, because obviously it also happens to men – but perhaps in different forms? Maybe they need a hashtag too

The marriage equality debate has also brought out some well entrenched behaviours and attitudes, I see great similarities. Hugs to my friends and family there too.

sarahs mum said:

PermeateFree said:

Arts said:

The metoo hashtag is to bring an awareness of how widespread sexual harassement is.
If your newsfeed is filled with #metoo then people become aware of how many people have endured some form of sexual harassment. It can be anything from a wolf whistle to physical sexual assault (not that there is a scale to sexual harassment – but you know what I mean)

What you girls need is a hulking great bloke to accompany you.

I was once accompanied by a hulking great bloke. Everyone talks of him as being gentle giant type.

He raped me.

Still laughing?

That’s terrible, sm. I’m sorry you’ve encountered these monsters.

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

PermeateFree said:

What you girls need is a hulking great bloke to accompany you.

I was once accompanied by a hulking great bloke. Everyone talks of him as being gentle giant type.

He raped me.

Still laughing?

That’s terrible, sm. I’m sorry you’ve encountered these monsters.

That doesn’t mean all men are monsters or all hulking great blokes are rapists. These things happen and is more about the man than what men are generally. This MeToo would not affect the thinking of these people.

Rape is a terrible thing. It isn’t confined to using females as victims either.

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

I was once accompanied by a hulking great bloke. Everyone talks of him as being gentle giant type.

He raped me.

Still laughing?

That’s terrible, sm. I’m sorry you’ve encountered these monsters.

That doesn’t mean all men are monsters or all hulking great blokes are rapists. These things happen and is more about the man than what men are generally. This MeToo would not affect the thinking of these people.

The point that not all males can be tarred with the same brush has been made evident in this thread already. That such men are already aware of the message that metoo are promulgating isn’t lessening the need to push for greater awareness amongst more men.

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

PermeateFree said:

What you girls need is a hulking great bloke to accompany you.

I was once accompanied by a hulking great bloke. Everyone talks of him as being gentle giant type.

He raped me.

Still laughing?

That’s terrible, sm. I’m sorry you’ve encountered these monsters.

Yeah. And that’s not all. I do have a list. Lots of women have a list. It is terrible. But I feel you don’t need convincing.

Saying I should need a strong mannish man to protect me from men is just insulting.

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

I was once accompanied by a hulking great bloke. Everyone talks of him as being gentle giant type.

He raped me.

Still laughing?

That’s terrible, sm. I’m sorry you’ve encountered these monsters.

Yeah. And that’s not all. I do have a list. Lots of women have a list. It is terrible. But I feel you don’t need convincing.

Saying I should need a strong mannish man to protect me from men is just insulting.

Why do you think men are generally larger and stronger than women? They are the protectors of the family, whereas a woman on her own would be abused by all. It still happens today in many countries and has only recently changed in Australia. Women know not to go out alone at night or go to deserted areas, they do so because they know it is dangerous for them. Despite what you do with these awareness programs, there are always going to be these types around and you will probably never be safe in these situations.

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

That’s terrible, sm. I’m sorry you’ve encountered these monsters.

Yeah. And that’s not all. I do have a list. Lots of women have a list. It is terrible. But I feel you don’t need convincing.

Saying I should need a strong mannish man to protect me from men is just insulting.

Why do you think men are generally larger and stronger than women? They are the protectors of the family, whereas a woman on her own would be abused by all. It still happens today in many countries and has only recently changed in Australia. Women know not to go out alone at night or go to deserted areas, they do so because they know it is dangerous for them. Despite what you do with these awareness programs, there are always going to be these types around and you will probably never be safe in these situations.

So wrong.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

Yeah. And that’s not all. I do have a list. Lots of women have a list. It is terrible. But I feel you don’t need convincing.

Saying I should need a strong mannish man to protect me from men is just insulting.

Why do you think men are generally larger and stronger than women? They are the protectors of the family, whereas a woman on her own would be abused by all. It still happens today in many countries and has only recently changed in Australia. Women know not to go out alone at night or go to deserted areas, they do so because they know it is dangerous for them. Despite what you do with these awareness programs, there are always going to be these types around and you will probably never be safe in these situations.

So wrong.

Seem pretty realistic to me, but I am very interested in evolution and animal behavior.

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Why do you think men are generally larger and stronger than women? They are the protectors of the family, whereas a woman on her own would be abused by all. It still happens today in many countries and has only recently changed in Australia. Women know not to go out alone at night or go to deserted areas, they do so because they know it is dangerous for them. Despite what you do with these awareness programs, there are always going to be these types around and you will probably never be safe in these situations.

So wrong.

Seem pretty realistic to me, but I am very interested in evolution and animal behavior.

OK.

but as a part of evolution we have reached a point where we as humans are beginning to realise that animals were actually always smarter than we previously gave them credit?

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

So wrong.

Seem pretty realistic to me, but I am very interested in evolution and animal behavior.

OK.

but as a part of evolution we have reached a point where we as humans are beginning to realise that animals were actually always smarter than we previously gave them credit?

That’s true, although people seem to think they are more highly evolved than they should. Humans have spent 95% of their existence in the stone-age and we are still influenced by it.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/05/27/not_all_men_how_discussing_women_s_issues_gets_derailed.html

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

That’s terrible, sm. I’m sorry you’ve encountered these monsters.

That doesn’t mean all men are monsters or all hulking great blokes are rapists. These things happen and is more about the man than what men are generally. This MeToo would not affect the thinking of these people.

The point that not all males can be tarred with the same brush has been made evident in this thread already. That such men are already aware of the message that metoo are promulgating isn’t lessening the need to push for greater awareness amongst more men.

bumped for Boris.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

That doesn’t mean all men are monsters or all hulking great blokes are rapists. These things happen and is more about the man than what men are generally. This MeToo would not affect the thinking of these people.

The point that not all males can be tarred with the same brush has been made evident in this thread already. That such men are already aware of the message that metoo are promulgating isn’t lessening the need to push for greater awareness amongst more men.

bumped for Boris.

and? my link goes into why it isn’t helpful.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

The point that not all males can be tarred with the same brush has been made evident in this thread already. That such men are already aware of the message that metoo are promulgating isn’t lessening the need to push for greater awareness amongst more men.

bumped for Boris.

and? my link goes into why it isn’t helpful.

Yeah, I know.

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

bumped for Boris.

and? my link goes into why it isn’t helpful.

Yeah, I know.

and the same arguments hold when someone mentions that it happens to men as well. and why i responded with ‘all lives matter”.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

and? my link goes into why it isn’t helpful.

Yeah, I know.

and the same arguments hold when someone mentions that it happens to men as well. and why i responded with ‘all lives matter”.

indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J-ImnqaDzE