Date: 22/10/2017 19:54:00
From: Woodie
ID: 1136547
Subject: Funerals

Would you go to someone’s funeral who didn’t come to yours?

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Date: 22/10/2017 20:00:02
From: dv
ID: 1136550
Subject: re: Funerals

Woodie said:


Would you go to someone’s funeral who didn’t come to yours?

Nice

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Date: 22/10/2017 20:04:40
From: Michael V
ID: 1136553
Subject: re: Funerals

Woodie said:


Would you go to someone’s funeral who didn’t come to yours?
Seems internally inconsistent.

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Date: 22/10/2017 20:14:06
From: buffy
ID: 1136554
Subject: re: Funerals

Michael V said:


Woodie said:

Would you go to someone’s funeral who didn’t come to yours?
Seems internally inconsistent.

The forum madness is catching. I should go and do something else before it gets me too.

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Date: 22/10/2017 20:27:56
From: mcgoon
ID: 1136558
Subject: re: Funerals

I have no plans for my own funeral other than to not be there.

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Date: 22/10/2017 20:32:48
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1136561
Subject: re: Funerals

mcgoon said:


I have no plans for my own funeral other than to not be there.

There are ways.

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Date: 22/10/2017 20:34:19
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1136562
Subject: re: Funerals

mcgoon said:


I have no plans for my own funeral other than to not be there.

Do you plan some sort of Ascension?

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Date: 22/10/2017 20:37:50
From: sibeen
ID: 1136563
Subject: re: Funerals

Witty Rejoinder said:


mcgoon said:

I have no plans for my own funeral other than to not be there.

Do you plan some sort of Ascension?

I’ve already done the resurrection bit. Quite boring to tell the truth.

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Date: 22/10/2017 20:57:21
From: transition
ID: 1136565
Subject: re: Funerals

Funerals really are a fairly practical business, or to clarify, the burial of a body is, you know it’s so the remains don’t stink the place up, and animals don’t dig up the remains. There’s cremation I suppose which you could ague is an exception.

Re the modern formalities (customs more so) of funerals, 9/10ths of it is just that, you know there’s a gathering, quite often of people that wouldn’t have anything to do with each other.

It’s a bit of a sendoff, a delivery into the aether, part of dissolving the entity-no-more. The state (ideological, and else) is in the background, the death’s already been registered.

People quite often go to funerals because it’s the right thing to do, to be seen, to make an appearance, and make the right noises, and sometimes they make the wrong noises too.

The thing about a dead person is your opinions to them don’t matter anymore, but there is though the propositions related what would have that person wanted, in such and such a circumstance. This is a special type of consideration. Of, that they still matter even though physically departed. Keeping in mind we are 9/10ths memories to each other while alive (don’t take the math too literally).

On the subject of variously reciprocity of whatever sort, speculated, the deceased are probably past being bothered. Are they at the funeral anyway, really? No, it’s illusion. More an imposition of customs, of which they’re no longer a complying entity, liberated in a way, or they would be..?

Where are they? In someones fond memories somewhere, hopefully. And maybe they’re in their personal belongings, you could say they are there, in a sense.

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Date: 22/10/2017 21:06:51
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1136566
Subject: re: Funerals

transition said:


Funerals really are a fairly practical business, or to clarify, the burial of a body is, you know it’s so the remains don’t stink the place up, and animals don’t dig up the remains. There’s cremation I suppose which you could ague is an exception.

Re the modern formalities (customs more so) of funerals, 9/10ths of it is just that, you know there’s a gathering, quite often of people that wouldn’t have anything to do with each other.

It’s a bit of a sendoff, a delivery into the aether, part of dissolving the entity-no-more. The state (ideological, and else) is in the background, the death’s already been registered.

People quite often go to funerals because it’s the right thing to do, to be seen, to make an appearance, and make the right noises, and sometimes they make the wrong noises too.

The thing about a dead person is your opinions to them don’t matter anymore, but there is though the propositions related what would have that person wanted, in such and such a circumstance. This is a special type of consideration. Of, that they still matter even though physically departed. Keeping in mind we are 9/10ths memories to each other while alive (don’t take the math too literally).

On the subject of variously reciprocity of whatever sort, speculated, the deceased are probably past being bothered. Are they at the funeral anyway, really? No, it’s illusion. More an imposition of customs, of which they’re no longer a complying entity, liberated in a way, or they would be..?

Where are they? In someones fond memories somewhere, hopefully. And maybe they’re in their personal belongings, you could say they are there, in a sense.

Another way of burial practiced in mountainous regions.

>>Sky burial (Tibetan: བྱ་གཏོར་, Wylie: bya gtor, lit. “bird-scattered”) is a funeral practice in which a human corpse is placed on a mountaintop to decompose while exposed to the elements or to be eaten by scavenging animals, especially carrion birds. It is a specific type of the general practice of excarnation. It is practiced in the Chinese provinces and autonomous regions of Tibet, Qinghai, Sichuan and Inner Mongolia, as well as in Mongolia, Bhutan and parts of India such as Sikkim and Zanskar. The locations of preparation and sky burial are understood in the Vajrayana Buddhist traditions as charnel grounds. Comparable practices are part of Zoroastrian burial practices where deceased are exposed to the elements and birds of prey on stone structures called Dakhma. Few such places remain operational today due to religious marginalisation, urbanisation and the decimation of vulture populations<<

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial

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Date: 22/10/2017 21:08:29
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1136568
Subject: re: Funerals

PermeateFree said:


transition said:

Funerals really are a fairly practical business, or to clarify, the burial of a body is, you know it’s so the remains don’t stink the place up, and animals don’t dig up the remains. There’s cremation I suppose which you could ague is an exception.

Re the modern formalities (customs more so) of funerals, 9/10ths of it is just that, you know there’s a gathering, quite often of people that wouldn’t have anything to do with each other.

It’s a bit of a sendoff, a delivery into the aether, part of dissolving the entity-no-more. The state (ideological, and else) is in the background, the death’s already been registered.

People quite often go to funerals because it’s the right thing to do, to be seen, to make an appearance, and make the right noises, and sometimes they make the wrong noises too.

The thing about a dead person is your opinions to them don’t matter anymore, but there is though the propositions related what would have that person wanted, in such and such a circumstance. This is a special type of consideration. Of, that they still matter even though physically departed. Keeping in mind we are 9/10ths memories to each other while alive (don’t take the math too literally).

On the subject of variously reciprocity of whatever sort, speculated, the deceased are probably past being bothered. Are they at the funeral anyway, really? No, it’s illusion. More an imposition of customs, of which they’re no longer a complying entity, liberated in a way, or they would be..?

Where are they? In someones fond memories somewhere, hopefully. And maybe they’re in their personal belongings, you could say they are there, in a sense.

Another way of burial practiced in mountainous regions.

>>Sky burial (Tibetan: བྱ་གཏོར་, Wylie: bya gtor, lit. “bird-scattered”) is a funeral practice in which a human corpse is placed on a mountaintop to decompose while exposed to the elements or to be eaten by scavenging animals, especially carrion birds. It is a specific type of the general practice of excarnation. It is practiced in the Chinese provinces and autonomous regions of Tibet, Qinghai, Sichuan and Inner Mongolia, as well as in Mongolia, Bhutan and parts of India such as Sikkim and Zanskar. The locations of preparation and sky burial are understood in the Vajrayana Buddhist traditions as charnel grounds. Comparable practices are part of Zoroastrian burial practices where deceased are exposed to the elements and birds of prey on stone structures called Dakhma. Few such places remain operational today due to religious marginalisation, urbanisation and the decimation of vulture populations<<

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial

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Date: 22/10/2017 21:09:49
From: transition
ID: 1136569
Subject: re: Funerals

thanks for that, permeate

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Date: 22/10/2017 21:21:43
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1136573
Subject: re: Funerals

transition said:


thanks for that, permeate

There are people though that say you shouldn’t feed the birds.

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Date: 22/10/2017 21:31:05
From: buffy
ID: 1136575
Subject: re: Funerals

I recently read a very well written piece by a journalist who witnessed a sky burial. Might have been on the ABC website. But you are not allowed to photograph them.

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Date: 22/10/2017 21:32:19
From: buffy
ID: 1136577
Subject: re: Funerals

Yes, last month:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-16/stumbling-upon-ritual-of-feeding-the-dead-to-vulture-angels/8948332

I want to be freeze dried and shattered. But you can’t have that here in Australia.

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Date: 22/10/2017 21:37:19
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1136579
Subject: re: Funerals

buffy said:

Yes, last month:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-16/stumbling-upon-ritual-of-feeding-the-dead-to-vulture-angels/8948332

I want to be freeze dried and shattered. But you can’t have that here in Australia.

How much are you prepared to pay for this process?

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Date: 22/10/2017 21:41:03
From: tauto
ID: 1136583
Subject: re: Funerals

Would you go to someone’s funeral who didn’t come to yours?

—-

Of course, in spirit….

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Date: 22/10/2017 21:44:47
From: sibeen
ID: 1136584
Subject: re: Funerals

I have never managed to put my keyboard through a dishwasher. I’m just careful like that.

In other exciting news, Elon Musk is on 60 minutes next week, as I have been reliably informed by SWMBO. She’s told me that she is taping it for my edification. I am so grateful.

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Date: 22/10/2017 21:46:48
From: tauto
ID: 1136585
Subject: re: Funerals

sibeen said:


I have never managed to put my keyboard through a dishwasher. I’m just careful like that.

In other exciting news, Elon Musk is on 60 minutes next week, as I have been reliably informed by SWMBO. She’s told me that she is taping it for my edification. I am so grateful.

—-

She is telling you that He will be the death of you;)

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Date: 22/10/2017 21:48:24
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1136586
Subject: re: Funerals

sibeen said:


I have never managed to put my keyboard through a dishwasher. I’m just careful like that.

In other exciting news, Elon Musk is on 60 minutes next week, as I have been reliably informed by SWMBO. She’s told me that she is taping it for my edification. I am so grateful.

Saw that, 60 minutes was overtime as usual and I was waiting for Australian Crime Stories. They had image of a talking head blowing up a quarry and someone saying it whatever it was, was the energy of the future and would replace oil. Dunno what it is. They wouldn’t be spruiking uranium like that.

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Date: 22/10/2017 21:51:04
From: sibeen
ID: 1136588
Subject: re: Funerals

AwesomeO said:


sibeen said:

I have never managed to put my keyboard through a dishwasher. I’m just careful like that.

In other exciting news, Elon Musk is on 60 minutes next week, as I have been reliably informed by SWMBO. She’s told me that she is taping it for my edification. I am so grateful.

Saw that, 60 minutes was overtime as usual and I was waiting for Australian Crime Stories. They had image of a talking head blowing up a quarry and someone saying it whatever it was, was the energy of the future and would replace oil. Dunno what it is. They wouldn’t be spruiking uranium like that.

Yeah, basically didn’t hear the waffle on that comment but muttered “bullshit” to myself as I was walking past. It’ll be one of the ‘new minerals’, lithium or some such.

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Date: 22/10/2017 21:51:47
From: Michael V
ID: 1136589
Subject: re: Funerals

sibeen said:


I have never managed to put my keyboard through a dishwasher. I’m just careful like that.

In other exciting news, Elon Musk is on 60 minutes next week, as I have been reliably informed by SWMBO. She’s told me that she is taping it for my edification. I am so grateful.

How thoughtful.

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Date: 22/10/2017 21:52:22
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1136590
Subject: re: Funerals

sibeen said:


AwesomeO said:

sibeen said:

I have never managed to put my keyboard through a dishwasher. I’m just careful like that.

In other exciting news, Elon Musk is on 60 minutes next week, as I have been reliably informed by SWMBO. She’s told me that she is taping it for my edification. I am so grateful.

Saw that, 60 minutes was overtime as usual and I was waiting for Australian Crime Stories. They had image of a talking head blowing up a quarry and someone saying it whatever it was, was the energy of the future and would replace oil. Dunno what it is. They wouldn’t be spruiking uranium like that.

Yeah, basically didn’t hear the waffle on that comment but muttered “bullshit” to myself as I was walking past. It’ll be one of the ‘new minerals’, lithium or some such.

Yeah, that fits with the Elon angle.

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Date: 22/10/2017 22:17:19
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1136598
Subject: re: Funerals

Woodie said:


Would you go to someone’s funeral who didn’t come to yours?

Do you mean…would you go a funeral for a person who would not be attending your funeral perhaps? A bit difficult to attend a funeral after your own passing (I imagine)

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Date: 22/10/2017 22:19:25
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1136600
Subject: re: Funerals

monkey skipper said:


Woodie said:

Would you go to someone’s funeral who didn’t come to yours?

Do you mean…would you go a funeral for a person who would not be attending your funeral perhaps? A bit difficult to attend a funeral after your own passing (I imagine)

Ahh, a thinker!

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Date: 23/10/2017 04:32:21
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1136693
Subject: re: Funerals

I had a long chat someone on Thursday with someone who used to be a funeral director – until she damaged her shoulder lifting a pew.

A funeral director has to remain outwardly unemotional during the service, which can sometimes be very difficult. She told me quite a few examples, from the fetus to be buried that fitted neatly into an ice cream container, to the funeral where all the friends of the deceased were so high on drugs that she had trouble stopping them from jumping into the grave along with the coffin.

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Date: 23/10/2017 10:14:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1136728
Subject: re: Funerals

The Polynesians never buried their dead nor did the aborigines don’t know about north American Indians.

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Date: 23/10/2017 10:33:25
From: kii
ID: 1136729
Subject: re: Funerals

mollwollfumble said:


I had a long chat someone on Thursday with someone who used to be a funeral director – until she damaged her shoulder lifting a pew.

A funeral director has to remain outwardly unemotional during the service, which can sometimes be very difficult.


My father’s funeral was conducted by my younger brother with my mother doing the eulogy. My brother said that anyone could come up to the podium after the eulogy and speak. My eldest son, he was 4, nearly jumped out of his seat, put his hand up and called out: Uncle Paul!! Uncle Paul!! I want to talk about Grandad! My brother said he was welcome after Nana had finished speaking. My son settled down to serious thumb-sucking and cuddling his two red t-shirts that served as his comforters.

When it came time for my son to have his turn, he marched up to the front of the room (with his two bright red t-shirts slung over his shoulder) and stood next to the podium, and next to the open coffin containing his beloved grandfather. He told everyone present that his Grandad was really good at fixing things and making things and the chalkboard he’d made was a bit broken, but he was going to fix it because Grandad told him how to do it. He then came back to sit with me. I looked around the room, everyone was smiling and crying, including the 4 ushers standing off to the side.

One of my favourite memories.

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Date: 23/10/2017 10:41:19
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1136731
Subject: re: Funerals

Oh kii, what a special memory!

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Date: 23/10/2017 10:47:38
From: kii
ID: 1136737
Subject: re: Funerals

Divine Angel said:


Oh kii, what a special memory!

Yeah. Son#1 has always been a special guy.

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Date: 23/10/2017 10:52:42
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1136743
Subject: re: Funerals

kii said:


mollwollfumble said:

I had a long chat someone on Thursday with someone who used to be a funeral director – until she damaged her shoulder lifting a pew.

A funeral director has to remain outwardly unemotional during the service, which can sometimes be very difficult.


My father’s funeral was conducted by my younger brother with my mother doing the eulogy. My brother said that anyone could come up to the podium after the eulogy and speak. My eldest son, he was 4, nearly jumped out of his seat, put his hand up and called out: Uncle Paul!! Uncle Paul!! I want to talk about Grandad! My brother said he was welcome after Nana had finished speaking. My son settled down to serious thumb-sucking and cuddling his two red t-shirts that served as his comforters.

When it came time for my son to have his turn, he marched up to the front of the room (with his two bright red t-shirts slung over his shoulder) and stood next to the podium, and next to the open coffin containing his beloved grandfather. He told everyone present that his Grandad was really good at fixing things and making things and the chalkboard he’d made was a bit broken, but he was going to fix it because Grandad told him how to do it. He then came back to sit with me. I looked around the room, everyone was smiling and crying, including the 4 ushers standing off to the side.

One of my favourite memories.

Ha.

I was thinking when throwing out a lot of broken stuff during the move, “Dad would have fixed that, not thrown it out.”

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Date: 23/10/2017 12:42:42
From: buffy
ID: 1136806
Subject: re: Funerals

kii said:


Divine Angel said:

Oh kii, what a special memory!

Yeah. Son#1 has always been a special guy.

Sounds like he is an old soul. There is one of them in Rabbit Proof fence. One of the little girls. If you watch the casting scenes in the Extras on the DVD, you can see her.

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