Date: 1/03/2009 16:49:04
From: veg gardener
ID: 48387
Subject: Bee Thread

Yesterday we got to Hives of Bees so thats over 50,000 Bees in each hive my dad said, going to have a look in them next weekend sometime so will tell you about that then.

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Date: 1/03/2009 16:49:25
From: veg gardener
ID: 48388
Subject: re: Bee Thread

i ment 2 not To.

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Date: 1/03/2009 17:00:49
From: Dinetta
ID: 48390
Subject: re: Bee Thread

veg gardener said:


Yesterday we got to Hives of Bees so thats over 50,000 Bees in each hive my dad said, going to have a look in them next weekend sometime so will tell you about that then.

Goodness, I didn’t realize so many bees could fit in such a small space…sometimes we see hives that have been placed to “harvest” the blooms (e.g. gum trees) and there would be at least 10, the smallest colony of hives…geez that’s a lot of beez…

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Date: 1/03/2009 17:01:11
From: Dinetta
ID: 48391
Subject: re: Bee Thread

veg gardener said:


i ment 2 not To.

No worries Veg…

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Date: 1/03/2009 17:04:37
From: veg gardener
ID: 48393
Subject: re: Bee Thread

yeah it is alot and they fly 3 miles so 4.89kms from the hive and when the Young Hatch they are Guards frist and there are workers who just work inside the hive and ones who collect the nectar from the flowers and they only live for 3 weeks.

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Date: 1/03/2009 17:12:20
From: pepe
ID: 48395
Subject: re: Bee Thread

veg gardener said:


Yesterday we got to Hives of Bees so thats over 50,000 Bees in each hive my dad said, going to have a look in them next weekend sometime so will tell you about that then.

holy smoke! – can you check 50,000 please. these must be good hives.

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Date: 1/03/2009 17:14:39
From: pepe
ID: 48396
Subject: re: Bee Thread

veg gardener said:


yeah it is alot and they fly 3 miles so 4.89kms from the hive and when the Young Hatch they are Guards frist and there are workers who just work inside the hive and ones who collect the nectar from the flowers and they only live for 3 weeks.

apparently there are air conditioning bees – who go and collect water and then fan their wings like crazy to evapouratively cool the hive.

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Date: 1/03/2009 18:33:29
From: veg gardener
ID: 48417
Subject: re: Bee Thread

pepe said:


veg gardener said:

Yesterday we got to Hives of Bees so thats over 50,000 Bees in each hive my dad said, going to have a look in them next weekend sometime so will tell you about that then.

holy smoke! – can you check 50,000 please. these must be good hives.

thats we we got told that a good hive could have plus most of them are out all day.

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Date: 1/03/2009 18:34:17
From: veg gardener
ID: 48418
Subject: re: Bee Thread

pepe said:


veg gardener said:

yeah it is alot and they fly 3 miles so 4.89kms from the hive and when the Young Hatch they are Guards frist and there are workers who just work inside the hive and ones who collect the nectar from the flowers and they only live for 3 weeks.

apparently there are air conditioning bees – who go and collect water and then fan their wings like crazy to evapouratively cool the hive.


yep. thats ture, and the Humidity in there needs to be 17-18% before they will cap off the Honey.

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Date: 2/03/2009 08:59:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 48454
Subject: re: Bee Thread

Depends on how many supers you have on the hive.. what the flowers are like and whether the queen has enough room to move.

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Date: 2/03/2009 10:28:03
From: pepe
ID: 48461
Subject: re: Bee Thread

roughbarked said:


Depends on how many supers you have on the hive.. what the flowers are like and whether the queen has enough room to move.

are you a beekeeper as well RB?

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Date: 2/03/2009 10:29:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 48462
Subject: re: Bee Thread

pepe said:


roughbarked said:

Depends on how many supers you have on the hive.. what the flowers are like and whether the queen has enough room to move.

are you a beekeeper as well RB?

I do have bees yes. ;)

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Date: 2/03/2009 10:37:11
From: pepe
ID: 48466
Subject: re: Bee Thread

roughbarked said:


pepe said:

roughbarked said:

Depends on how many supers you have on the hive.. what the flowers are like and whether the queen has enough room to move.

are you a beekeeper as well RB?

I do have bees yes. ;)

well i’ll be reading this thread with interest then.
what’s a super?

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Date: 2/03/2009 10:48:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 48471
Subject: re: Bee Thread

OK a Hive is made up of a brood chamber(bottom box) and every box above the queen excluder is known as a super. Some may be stacked five or six high.
A queen excluder keeps the queen underneath it. So that all the supers are removable to harvest the honey from.

The brood chamber may be expanded and contracted by adding or removing boxes under the queen excluder(with care to ensure that the queen isn’t in the box you remove).

Truthfully wherever you live. One of the best books to have is Beekeeping in Victoria ..

<quote> The book is essential! It doesn’t really matter which book it is, so long as it tells how to maintain a bee hive. For my part a publication by the Department of Agriculture in Victoria titled ‘Bee Keeping in Victoria’ is my bee keeping bible. But be warned – bee books written by experienced bee keepers are masters of understatement. ‘Catching a swarm is easy’, this practical text suggests. ‘Just place a large box under the swarm and tap the top of the swarm with a stick – all the bees will fall into the box’. What the book doesn’t tell you is that you will probably need a 50 foot ladder to get up above the swarm in a rural area and that falling that far is not on for the bees who will all take flight and focus their attention on you!
</quote>

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Date: 2/03/2009 10:53:49
From: bluegreen
ID: 48472
Subject: re: Bee Thread

roughbarked said:

But be warned – bee books written by experienced bee keepers are masters of understatement. ‘Catching a swarm is easy’, this practical text suggests. ‘Just place a large box under the swarm and tap the top of the swarm with a stick – all the bees will fall into the box’. What the book doesn’t tell you is that you will probably need a 50 foot ladder to get up above the swarm in a rural area and that falling that far is not on for the bees who will all take flight and focus their attention on you!
</quote>

he, he! :D

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Date: 4/03/2009 17:20:17
From: veg gardener
ID: 48737
Subject: re: Bee Thread

The Bees Have helped with Pollentation on my veggies, got the first Pumpkin for the season. my Pumpkins when in a bit late i think same time as my tomatoes which were late but have had a good crop from them.

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Date: 4/03/2009 18:21:52
From: bluegreen
ID: 48743
Subject: re: Bee Thread

veg gardener said:


The Bees Have helped with Pollentation on my veggies, got the first Pumpkin for the season. my Pumpkins when in a bit late i think same time as my tomatoes which were late but have had a good crop from them.

earning their keep already :)

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Date: 4/03/2009 19:04:17
From: veg gardener
ID: 48748
Subject: re: Bee Thread

bluegreen said:


veg gardener said:

The Bees Have helped with Pollentation on my veggies, got the first Pumpkin for the season. my Pumpkins when in a bit late i think same time as my tomatoes which were late but have had a good crop from them.

earning their keep already :)

Yep, there good little pets.

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Date: 6/03/2009 19:01:47
From: veg gardener
ID: 48951
Subject: re: Bee Thread

Got stung by a bee Yesterday arvo it was my fault but.

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Date: 6/03/2009 19:09:51
From: bluegreen
ID: 48957
Subject: re: Bee Thread

veg gardener said:


Got stung by a bee Yesterday arvo it was my fault but.

tried to play chasings with it, did you?

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Date: 6/03/2009 19:11:06
From: veg gardener
ID: 48958
Subject: re: Bee Thread

bluegreen said:


veg gardener said:

Got stung by a bee Yesterday arvo it was my fault but.

tried to play chasings with it, did you?

nope, i was cleaning up the water on the convabelt with a brush and got stung on the leg.

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Date: 7/03/2009 17:50:11
From: veg gardener
ID: 49177
Subject: re: Bee Thread

Looked in both hives today, dad had his mobile phone on talking to his mate about the bees we worked out we aren’t got to rob any honey till after winter but we may if it fills up just on frame but, i said to dad could we try something feed one hive and not the other.

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Date: 7/03/2009 17:59:17
From: pepe
ID: 49179
Subject: re: Bee Thread

veg gardener said:


Looked in both hives today, dad had his mobile phone on talking to his mate about the bees we worked out we aren’t got to rob any honey till after winter but we may if it fills up just on frame but, i said to dad could we try something feed one hive and not the other.

great project VG and dad.
i’m waiting for your first taste of honey too.

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Date: 7/03/2009 18:56:11
From: veg gardener
ID: 49182
Subject: re: Bee Thread

pepe said:


veg gardener said:

Looked in both hives today, dad had his mobile phone on talking to his mate about the bees we worked out we aren’t got to rob any honey till after winter but we may if it fills up just on frame but, i said to dad could we try something feed one hive and not the other.

great project VG and dad.
i’m waiting for your first taste of honey too.

same we have had home made honey before from dads friends hive, tasted Yummy.

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Date: 7/03/2009 19:10:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 49192
Subject: re: Bee Thread

veg gardener said:


Looked in both hives today, dad had his mobile phone on talking to his mate about the bees we worked out we aren’t got to rob any honey till after winter but we may if it fills up just on frame but, i said to dad could we try something feed one hive and not the other.

Hives may have trouble surviving the winter if there is no pollen about.

However in Australia this isn’t generally such a problem and also depends on how cold your winters are and if there are any winter flowering plants in your area. Many beekeepers feed their bees during winter but this is a practice that care must be taken with. It is all in the book I mentioned above. You don’t want to over feed your bes and yes you don’t want to underfeed. It is wise to assess just what is flowering within a couple of Km from your hives. Keep a calendar of flowers.
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Date: 7/03/2009 19:12:47
From: veg gardener
ID: 49194
Subject: re: Bee Thread

roughbarked said:


veg gardener said:

Looked in both hives today, dad had his mobile phone on talking to his mate about the bees we worked out we aren’t got to rob any honey till after winter but we may if it fills up just on frame but, i said to dad could we try something feed one hive and not the other.

Hives may have trouble surviving the winter if there is no pollen about.

However in Australia this isn’t generally such a problem and also depends on how cold your winters are and if there are any winter flowering plants in your area. Many beekeepers feed their bees during winter but this is a practice that care must be taken with. It is all in the book I mentioned above. You don’t want to over feed your bes and yes you don’t want to underfeed. It is wise to assess just what is flowering within a couple of Km from your hives. Keep a calendar of flowers.

most of the trees around here are in flower in winter and that, dads mate is helping us learning all about this. Rough you may be able to help us a bit as well.

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Date: 7/03/2009 19:20:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 49196
Subject: re: Bee Thread

Know the flowers your bees want. Namely anything in the cruciferae group will be flowering from now through to spring.. allow some of your radish or broccoli to flower. http://www.flickr.com/photos/67449903@N00/2851439109/

Eremophila will flower most o the year.. onion flowers, a whole range of things Banksia for example.. It isn’t always necessary to feed bees.

Remember that in Europe there were no Eucalypts when Apis mellifera evolved. In their natural environment they forage at no more than 2 metres above the ground in general until the trees blossom in spring but for most of the year it would be clover lucerne mustard weed etc. In Australaia many native trees flower when stimulated by rain rather than by season. The mighty Eucalypt has proven to be the best bee food ever.

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Date: 7/03/2009 19:23:45
From: veg gardener
ID: 49198
Subject: re: Bee Thread

roughbarked said:


Know the flowers your bees want. Namely anything in the cruciferae group will be flowering from now through to spring.. allow some of your radish or broccoli to flower. http://www.flickr.com/photos/67449903@N00/2851439109/

Eremophila will flower most o the year.. onion flowers, a whole range of things Banksia for example.. It isn’t always necessary to feed bees.

Remember that in Europe there were no Eucalypts when Apis mellifera evolved. In their natural environment they forage at no more than 2 metres above the ground in general until the trees blossom in spring but for most of the year it would be clover lucerne mustard weed etc. In Australaia many native trees flower when stimulated by rain rather than by season. The mighty Eucalypt has proven to be the best bee food ever.

we have a few Banksias around here

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Date: 7/03/2009 20:10:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 49199
Subject: re: Bee Thread

there is a wattle for every day of the year.

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Date: 8/03/2009 09:50:34
From: pain master
ID: 49215
Subject: re: Bee Thread

vegie, make sure you take care with the bees. I have been told that Bee toxin is accumulative and although you may not have an allergic reaction to a sting, subsequent stings can cause a reaction. Make sure you have anti-histamines and even adrenalin in the house or nearby shed.

It can be the case that you may not show any sign of reaction for 11 stings and the 12th is the one that gets you.

Also stings on digits will tend to show some localised swelling because the toxin takes time to escape from these tight locations whereas a sting to a large muscle area will enable the toxin and subsequent swelling to be dispersed over a wider area.

If you and your Dad are the main players in the Bee game, make sure your Mum is well trained in first aid procedures. A first aid course could mean all the difference.

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Date: 8/03/2009 09:52:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 49217
Subject: re: Bee Thread

yes it is true that some bee keepers can no longer go near their bees after a while.

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Date: 8/03/2009 09:53:30
From: pain master
ID: 49218
Subject: re: Bee Thread

you can enter detox programs for bee toxin or so I have been told.

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Date: 25/04/2009 10:05:17
From: veg gardener
ID: 53669
Subject: re: Bee Thread

Getting a 2 frame Honey Extractor this arvo for $50 well i wont be going to get it as i am going out this arvo.

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