as of this moment i’ve declared anything that diminishes the importance of (natural) twilight mental states as terrorist. Absolutely anything and everything that does.

on that subject, does everyone have them, and sense them?

does the state have them, does ideology have them, do machines have them, do banks have them, does money have them, does TV have them?

now to the absurd…

what if wakefulness (consciousness) diminished the importance of twilight mental states, further, if I was to develop a psychological delivery system to do such a thing what would it look like?

transition said:

as of this moment i’ve declared anything that diminishes the importance of (natural) twilight mental states as terrorist. Absolutely anything and everything that does.

on that subject, does everyone have them, and sense them?

does the state have them, does ideology have them, do machines have them, do banks have them, does money have them, does TV have them?

now to the absurd…

what if wakefulness (consciousness) diminished the importance of twilight mental states, further, if I was to develop a psychological delivery system to do such a thing what would it look like?

cute :-), permeate

Do you mean day dreaming were you aren’t quite thinking about anything you are doing or anything/one around you

Cymek said:

Do you mean day dreaming were you aren’t quite thinking about anything you are doing or anything/one around you

it may include that, but was more meaning the transitional mental states between sleep and wakefulness, though i’m reluctant to call them transitional.

transition said:

Cymek said:

Do you mean day dreaming were you aren’t quite thinking about anything you are doing or anything/one around you

it may include that, but was more meaning the transitional mental states between sleep and wakefulness, though i’m reluctant to call them transitional.

Including were outside stimuli intrude on dreams

Cymek said:

transition said:

Cymek said:

Do you mean day dreaming were you aren’t quite thinking about anything you are doing or anything/one around you

it may include that, but was more meaning the transitional mental states between sleep and wakefulness, though i’m reluctant to call them transitional.

Including were outside stimuli intrude on dreams

i’m thinking twilight mental states are as important as wakefulness and sleeping, distinct enough to warrant a (soft)category. Also, of course, that they’re functionally important.

transition said:

Cymek said:

transition said:

it may include that, but was more meaning the transitional mental states between sleep and wakefulness, though i’m reluctant to call them transitional.

Including were outside stimuli intrude on dreams

i’m thinking twilight mental states are as important as wakefulness and sleeping, distinct enough to warrant a (soft)category. Also, of course, that they’re functionally important.

I think I’m there already.. my brian hurts

transition said:

as of this moment i’ve declared anything that diminishes the importance of (natural) twilight mental states as terrorist. Absolutely anything and everything that does.

Okay.

on that subject, does everyone have them, and sense them?

Yes. It’s called hypnagogia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia

does the state have them, does ideology have them, do machines have them, do banks have them, does money have them, does TV have them?

No. It’s a psychological state.

>No. It’s a psychological state.

aware of that, point was those things don’t have twilight states, they are not animal, yet influence (people defer to such, for some part of their reality).

not sure all twilight mental states are hypnagogic, much as a single word could ever define a mental state.

I get these weird day dreams were I’m reliving some event in my head, get really weird deja vu and feel quite space out, it’s accompanied with feeling hot and unwell

Cymek said:

I get these weird day dreams were I’m reliving some event in my head, get really weird deja vu and feel quite space out, it’s accompanied with feeling hot and unwell

On any anxiety medication?

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

I get these weird day dreams were I’m reliving some event in my head, get really weird deja vu and feel quite space out, it’s accompanied with feeling hot and unwell

On any anxiety medication?

sounds like a trauma flashback

monkey skipper said:

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

I get these weird day dreams were I’m reliving some event in my head, get really weird deja vu and feel quite space out, it’s accompanied with feeling hot and unwell

On any anxiety medication?

sounds like a trauma flashback

LSD? that’s a long time ago for flashbacks.

roughbarked said:

monkey skipper said:

roughbarked said:

On any anxiety medication?

sounds like a trauma flashback

LSD? that’s a long time ago for flashbacks.

not all flashbacks are drug induced ya know!!

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

I get these weird day dreams were I’m reliving some event in my head, get really weird deja vu and feel quite space out, it’s accompanied with feeling hot and unwell

On any anxiety medication?

Antidepressants but I had them before I started taking them

monkey skipper said:

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

I get these weird day dreams were I’m reliving some event in my head, get really weird deja vu and feel quite space out, it’s accompanied with feeling hot and unwell

On any anxiety medication?

sounds like a trauma flashback

I’ve not had anything traumatic though

monkey skipper said:

roughbarked said:

monkey skipper said:

sounds like a trauma flashback

LSD? that’s a long time ago for flashbacks.

not all flashbacks are drug induced ya know!!

wink. Yes it was an attempt at humour.

Cymek said:

I get these weird day dreams were I’m reliving some event in my head, get really weird deja vu and feel quite space out, it’s accompanied with feeling hot and unwell

transition said:

Cymek said:

Do you mean day dreaming were you aren’t quite thinking about anything you are doing or anything/one around you

it may include that, but was more meaning the transitional mental states between sleep and wakefulness, though i’m reluctant to call them transitional.

OK, that now makes more sense, there are probably dozens of different and unrelated mental states that are transitional between conscious and unconscious states. For example transitions related to sleep, death, anaesthesia, drunkenness, limitations imposed by the sensory bandwidth, hypnosis, posthypnotic suggestion, muscle memory, pain, delerium, halucinations, daydreams, the laying down and recall and modification of long term memories, dream analysis, paranoia, panic attack, epileptic fit, stroke, etc.

The state between sleep and wakefullness is called hypnogogia

mollwollfumble said:

transition said:

Cymek said:

Do you mean day dreaming were you aren’t quite thinking about anything you are doing or anything/one around you

it may include that, but was more meaning the transitional mental states between sleep and wakefulness, though i’m reluctant to call them transitional.

OK, that now makes more sense, there are probably dozens of different and unrelated mental states that are transitional between conscious and unconscious states. For example transitions related to sleep, death, anaesthesia, drunkenness, limitations imposed by the sensory bandwidth, hypnosis, posthypnotic suggestion, muscle memory, pain, delerium, halucinations, daydreams, the laying down and recall and modification of long term memories, dream analysis, paranoia, panic attack, epileptic fit, stroke, etc.

The state between sleep and wakefullness is called hypnogogia

I do that limb jerk thing sometimes.

I also sometimes feel pain in my chest when there is sudden noise when I am in the not quite asleep state.