people think flat-earthers are nuts, and they may be. It takes a special sort of commitment to stay with such a view.

but I present still-earthers, which most of us are most of the time, otherwise imagining the reality would probably, well, at best cause vertigo, at worst staying with the truth of it might destroy your mind completely.

you know the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, not really, but we keep with the less-than-a-conspiracy-of-the-senses, the still earth.

i’m not sure how spinning at ~1000km/h(?) would feel, or I do, it’s big, and there’s that orbit around the sun ~108,000 km/h(?), even bigger.

fortunately we’ve got an atmosphere and all that, sort of moving around with it, with some weather.

I have an idea though the average human is not very honest about the speed we’re all travelling, circles and orbits at the same time, I mean that’s got to be dangerous. It’s a dizzying idea.

So perhaps still-earthers are weirder than flat-earthers, really?

makes drinky-drinky motion

Witty Rejoinder said:

makes drinky-drinky motion

:-)

>1000km/h(?)

1656km/h at the equator.

I wouldn’t say we’re “not very honest” about it, we just don’t notice it.

Bubblecar said:

>1000km/h(?)

1656km/h at the equator.

I wouldn’t say we’re “not very honest” about it, we just don’t notice it.

People go missing all the time.

Bubblecar said:

>1000km/h(?)

1656km/h at the equator.

I wouldn’t say we’re “not very honest” about it, we just don’t notice it.

That’s the average speed and we do notice it.
We notice it in the wind when the earth speeds up and when it slows down we just get a breeze, sometimes it stops altogether.
Why the earth speeds up and slows down we just don’t know.

Bubblecar said:

>1000km/h(?)

1656km/h at the equator.

I wouldn’t say we’re “not very honest” about it, we just don’t notice it.

yeah I skipped the math for my latitude

I want an argument, so oblige me.

watching the sun come up in the morning, watching the sun rise, without reminding yourself the earth is spinning, that dishonest.

there’s a mass deception happening, people get around actually feeling like the sun rises in the east, passes overhead, then sets in the west.

if this passes for normal then anything’s possible

:-)

transition said:

I want an argument, so oblige me.

no, you’re stupid you besslubbering hedge-born lumpet

transition said:

people think flat-earthers are nuts, and they may be. It takes a special sort of commitment to stay with such a view.

but I present still-earthers, which most of us are most of the time, otherwise imagining the reality would probably, well, at best cause vertigo, at worst staying with the truth of it might destroy your mind completely.

you know the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, not really, but we keep with the less-than-a-conspiracy-of-the-senses, the still earth.

i’m not sure how spinning at ~1000km/h(?) would feel, or I do, it’s big, and there’s that orbit around the sun ~108,000 km/h(?), even bigger.

fortunately we’ve got an atmosphere and all that, sort of moving around with it, with some weather.

I have an idea though the average human is not very honest about the speed we’re all travelling, circles and orbits at the same time, I mean that’s got to be dangerous. It’s a dizzying idea.

So perhaps still-earthers are weirder than flat-earthers, really?

:)

transition said:

there’s a mass deception happening, people get around actually feeling like the sun rises in the east, passes overhead, then sets in the west.

if this passes for normal then anything’s possible

:-)

Billy Graham.. Donald Trump?

Arts said:

transition said:

I want an argument, so oblige me.

no, you’re stupid you besslubbering hedge-born lumpet

:-)

transition said:

people think flat-earthers are nuts, and they may be. It takes a special sort of commitment to stay with such a view.

but I present still-earthers, which most of us are most of the time, otherwise imagining the reality would probably, well, at best cause vertigo, at worst staying with the truth of it might destroy your mind completely.

you know the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, not really, but we keep with the less-than-a-conspiracy-of-the-senses, the still earth.

i’m not sure how spinning at ~1000km/h(?) would feel, or I do, it’s big, and there’s that orbit around the sun ~108,000 km/h(?), even bigger.

fortunately we’ve got an atmosphere and all that, sort of moving around with it, with some weather.

I have an idea though the average human is not very honest about the speed we’re all travelling, circles and orbits at the same time, I mean that’s got to be dangerous. It’s a dizzying idea.

So perhaps still-earthers are weirder than flat-earthers, really?

send them to space and ask them to report back after wading through space to earth again.

> I have an idea though the average human is not very honest about the speed we’re all travelling, circles and orbits at the same time, I mean that’s got to be dangerous. It’s a dizzying idea. So perhaps still-earthers are weirder than flat-earthers, really?

As I was trying to tell the road safety people lately. It’s not absolute speed that’s dangerous, it’s relative speed. It’s not dizzying either. For both in the context of a rotating Earth, the relevent parameter is dv/dx which has units inverse seconds.

In a Car crash situation, dv/dx increases as the colliding objects get closer together.

In the moving Earth scenario, dv/dx is small because dx is very large, such as the diameter of the Earth, distance to the Sun, distance to the centre of the milky way, distance to the great attractor, depending on context.

The reframing of a rotating reference system as a stationary one is known as Mach’s principle, which is infamously open to misinterpretation.

mollwollfumble said:

> I have an idea though the average human is not very honest about the speed we’re all travelling, circles and orbits at the same time, I mean that’s got to be dangerous. It’s a dizzying idea. So perhaps still-earthers are weirder than flat-earthers, really?

As I was trying to tell the road safety people lately. It’s not absolute speed that’s dangerous, it’s relative speed. It’s not dizzying either. For both in the context of a rotating Earth, the relevent parameter is dv/dx which has units inverse seconds.

In a Car crash situation, dv/dx increases as the colliding objects get closer together.

In the moving Earth scenario, dv/dx is small because dx is very large, such as the diameter of the Earth, distance to the Sun, distance to the centre of the milky way, distance to the great attractor, depending on context.

The reframing of a rotating reference system as a stationary one is known as Mach’s principle, which is infamously open to misinterpretation.

What did the cops say?

transition said:

people think flat-earthers are nuts, and they may be. It takes a special sort of commitment to stay with such a view.

but I present still-earthers, which most of us are most of the time, otherwise imagining the reality would probably, well, at best cause vertigo, at worst staying with the truth of it might destroy your mind completely.

you know the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, not really, but we keep with the less-than-a-conspiracy-of-the-senses, the still earth.

i’m not sure how spinning at ~1000km/h(?) would feel, or I do, it’s big, and there’s that orbit around the sun ~108,000 km/h(?), even bigger.

fortunately we’ve got an atmosphere and all that, sort of moving around with it, with some weather.

I have an idea though the average human is not very honest about the speed we’re all travelling, circles and orbits at the same time, I mean that’s got to be dangerous. It’s a dizzying idea.

So perhaps still-earthers are weirder than flat-earthers, really?

Speed is relative. The earth can be considered stationary, within its own rotating frame, if that’s your idea of a good time.

It’s not that this is wrong, it’s just that this frame is less useful generally than a heliocentric frame, or even a galactic frame.

PermeateFree said:

What did the cops say?

Neener neener neener nee
Neener neener neener nee
Neener neener neener nee

What did the cops say?

Hullo what’s all this then
Hullo what’s all this then
Hullo what’s all this then

What did the cops say?

dv said:

PermeateFree said:

What did the cops say?

Neener neener neener nee
Neener neener neener nee
Neener neener neener nee

What did the cops say?

Hullo what’s all this then
Hullo what’s all this then
Hullo what’s all this then

What did the cops say?

Wear the fox hat.
Slightly off on a tangent, but the first time I saw that joke about Canadia I laughed and laughed.

Tell me the joke about Canadia.

dv said:

Tell me the joke about Canadia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb0kiiB3O-o

Well, maybe it’s not about Canada, but a Canadian friend posted it and made it ALL about Canada.

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

As I was trying to tell the road safety people lately. It’s not absolute speed that’s dangerous, it’s relative speed. It’s not dizzying either.

What did the cops say?

The council and the main roads people were both conspicuously silent on the issue. They listened carefully to what I said and then went away and did whatever they wanted.

mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

As I was trying to tell the road safety people lately. It’s not absolute speed that’s dangerous, it’s relative speed. It’s not dizzying either.

What did the cops say?

The council and the main roads people were both conspicuously silent on the issue. They listened carefully to what I said and then went away and did whatever they wanted.

Morning all.
It’s like smooth tyres give much better grip on dry roads.

dv said:

Tell me the joke about Canadia.

Bing says it involves Tony Abbott.

I will have nothing to do with it.

kii said:

dv said:

Tell me the joke about Canadia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb0kiiB3O-o

Well, maybe it’s not about Canada, but a Canadian friend posted it and made it ALL about Canada.

Everyone knows that joke is about Uluru (and involves Prince Charles and Queen Liz).

The Rev Dodgson said:

kii said:

dv said:

Tell me the joke about Canadia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb0kiiB3O-o

Well, maybe it’s not about Canada, but a Canadian friend posted it and made it ALL about Canada.

Everyone knows that joke is about Uluru (and involves Prince Charles and Queen Liz).

I prefer the Pope & the aboriginal one.

>It’s not that this is wrong, it’s just that this frame is less useful generally than a heliocentric frame, or even a galactic frame.

I was being a bit theatric.

man, on the african savanna, had no use really in his practical day-to-day activities of anything other than an earth-centric view, really, if you like, which does sorta come with the impression of a still earth, and today, some things haven’t changed.

for most of us most of the time, the earth is still, for our purposes.

but in some regards to be so convinced of this is no better than believing the earth is flat.

for most day-to-day activities the earth is flat, or flatish (it’s big enough that way), just as it is still.

How many ways is the Earth moving ?

It spins on it axis as it orbits the sun, the solar system is rotating around the galactic core and the galaxy itself is moving

Cymek said:

How many ways is the Earth moving ?

It spins on it axis as it orbits the sun, the solar system is rotating around the galactic core and the galaxy itself is moving

So it may be standing still. Maybe the pre-Copernicuns were right after all.

Cymek said:

How many ways is the Earth moving ?

It spins on it axis as it orbits the sun, the solar system is rotating around the galactic core and the galaxy itself is moving

The Galaxy Song – Monty Python