Date: 23/11/2017 13:24:36
From: buffy
ID: 1152438
Subject: Reading old computer information

I found this interesting. The implications for having to constantly update all your data formats are considerable.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-fight-format-rot/

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Date: 23/11/2017 13:27:50
From: Cymek
ID: 1152444
Subject: re: Reading old computer information

buffy said:

I found this interesting. The implications for having to constantly update all your data formats are considerable.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-fight-format-rot/

Yes the reason print is still relevant I imagine, forever useful unless we forget how to read

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Date: 24/11/2017 16:08:29
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1152738
Subject: re: Reading old computer information

buffy said:

I found this interesting. The implications for having to constantly update all your data formats are considerable.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-fight-format-rot/

> That’s where you worry not about the storage media but about the document formats of your files.

I once had a bird video website. But the format I made all the videos in was odsolete within a few months so I lost the lot.

> “Paper was actually much sturdier in the 1400s, 1500s, 1600s, because they made it from cloth, rag content, linen-based paper and cotton-based papers,”

Paper made using the old acid process was seriousy bad, as the paper rapidly turned brittle and yellow. Blueprints would fade. Some new processes are no better, I have a sales receipt here where the ink has faded to illegibility in a couple of weeks. I often wondered how libraries got their hands on durable paper.

> The library has chosen TIFF files.

Not good enough. TIFF covers a multitude of sins. There’s no guarantee that a tiff file created with one program will be readable by another.

> When the library began its scanning program in the mid-1990s

Scan to text programs are still abysmal, especially those used by major libraries. I could eat a book and shit out better digital text than that. Every now and then I fantasise about writing a scan to text program that actually works.

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Date: 25/11/2017 10:20:31
From: fsm
ID: 1152979
Subject: re: Reading old computer information

mollwollfumble said:


Paper made using the old acid process was seriousy bad, as the paper rapidly turned brittle and yellow. Blueprints would fade. Some new processes are no better, I have a sales receipt here where the ink has faded to illegibility in a couple of weeks. I often wondered how libraries got their hands on durable paper.

The reason your receipt has faded is because they are printed on thermal paper. If you apply gentle heat to the back of the receipt you may be able to restore the text.

The reason receipts are printed on thermal paper is because the printers are low maintenance and require no ink. The disadvantage is that they can fade within a few weeks.

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Date: 25/11/2017 10:37:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1152980
Subject: re: Reading old computer information

Looks like everybody is off ironing their faded printed receipts.

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Date: 25/11/2017 11:03:02
From: Arts
ID: 1152989
Subject: re: Reading old computer information

i take photos of the important ones I want to keep

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Date: 25/11/2017 22:25:29
From: KJW
ID: 1153240
Subject: re: Reading old computer information

buffy said:

I found this interesting. The implications for having to constantly update all your data formats are considerable.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-fight-format-rot/

Digital dark age

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