https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/rethinking-mental-health/201412/were-you-born-sad

Interesting article, makes we wonder if I am this way inclined

Cymek said:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/rethinking-mental-health/201412/were-you-born-sad

Interesting article, makes we wonder if I am this way inclined

do I contrast sad with a stereotype of happy, or just take the latter to be an absence of debilitating discontent?

i’ll read the link later :-)

doing end-of-month accounts here, while eating two-minute noodles.

There is a long term study out of Glasgow into passed down depression.

I have spent a long time thinking about this. I had put it down to 1/ There is a family history of depression. 2/ My mother lost her mother, who she adored, during pregnancy with me. Dad finished building the new house in time for me and the family moved into the new home, in a new area with few services, with the new baby. My mother had severe PND. She continued to breast feed through out. I lucked out that she didn’t go through with her plan to kill herself and her baby.

It’s high time I start to learn
To live my life with a poker face and then
All these emotional feelings I can’t ignore
Aren’t on display to the whole world anymore

Am I Happier Sad?

A psychologist named Martin Seligman did some research into happiness. One of his lines of research was into learned helplessness, where oragnisms who are repeatedly exposed to painful events eventually learn escape is futile, and stop trying to escape even when escape is possible.

He teamed up with a bloke named Ed Deiner, and together they focused on what makes people happy. They found that people had a baseline of happiness, which may waver over time but always came back to that baseline. Psychologist Dan Gilbert interviewed a bunch of associate professors, asking them how it would feel if they were accepted for tenure. He collated their responses and predictions about happiness, finding that those who were offered tenure experienced increased happiness for several months, but returned to their baseline. The group who did not get tenure experienced depressive symptoms for weeks or months, but also returned to their baseline happiness.

One factor that has been found to increase long-term happiness is marriage. I guess that depends on whom you’re married to ;)

Nick Epley and Juliana Shroeder found that people who chatted with others on a train commute were generally happier than those who kept to themselves.

Reference: Markman, Art and Duke, Bob 2016 ‘Can we really make ourselves happy?’ Brain Briefs Sterling Publishers, New York. pp 10-18
(The authors also have a podcast called Two Guys on your Head)

Divine Angel said:

One factor that has been found to increase long-term happiness is marriage. I guess that depends on whom you’re married to ;)

In criminology they say that the first rule to not being a criminal is to marry a good woman.

statistics and all that

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

One factor that has been found to increase long-term happiness is marriage. I guess that depends on whom you’re married to ;)

In criminology they say that the first rule to not being a criminal is to marry a good woman.

statistics and all that

What happens if you marry a bad’un?

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

One factor that has been found to increase long-term happiness is marriage. I guess that depends on whom you’re married to ;)

In criminology they say that the first rule to not being a criminal is to marry a good woman.

statistics and all that

A yes vote for same sex marriage is a vote for increased crime.

AwesomeO said:

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

One factor that has been found to increase long-term happiness is marriage. I guess that depends on whom you’re married to ;)

In criminology they say that the first rule to not being a criminal is to marry a good woman.

statistics and all that

What happens if you marry a bad’un?

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/killer-couples-deadliest-serial-killer-duos-history-gallery-1.2719214

Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

One factor that has been found to increase long-term happiness is marriage. I guess that depends on whom you’re married to ;)

In criminology they say that the first rule to not being a criminal is to marry a good woman.

statistics and all that

A yes vote for same sex marriage is a vote for increased crime.

A lot of lesbians will be marrying good women.

AwesomeO said:

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

One factor that has been found to increase long-term happiness is marriage. I guess that depends on whom you’re married to ;)

In criminology they say that the first rule to not being a criminal is to marry a good woman.

statistics and all that

What happens if you marry a bad’un?

anomalies and all that

Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

One factor that has been found to increase long-term happiness is marriage. I guess that depends on whom you’re married to ;)

In criminology they say that the first rule to not being a criminal is to marry a good woman.

statistics and all that

A yes vote for same sex marriage is a vote for increased crime.

maybe, maybe it will balance out with the lesbians marrying good women.

but the statistics show that most criminals are likely to be male, single and aged between 18 and 27. Marriage or long term partnership tend to curb criminal behaviour.

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

In criminology they say that the first rule to not being a criminal is to marry a good woman.

statistics and all that

A yes vote for same sex marriage is a vote for increased crime.

maybe, maybe it will balance out with the lesbians marrying good women.

but the statistics show that most criminals are likely to be male, single and aged between 18 and 27. Marriage or long term partnership tend to curb criminal behaviour.

or those males likely to commit crimes are just poor at relationships to start with…

poikilotherm said:

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

A yes vote for same sex marriage is a vote for increased crime.

maybe, maybe it will balance out with the lesbians marrying good women.

but the statistics show that most criminals are likely to be male, single and aged between 18 and 27. Marriage or long term partnership tend to curb criminal behaviour.

or those males likely to commit crimes are just poor at relationships to start with…

possible, but unlikely, given that many who commit crimes tend to cease the activity after relationships have begun. It is linked to John Eck’s second layer of the crime triangle where ‘motivated criminals’ that have a ‘handler’ (his term) tend not to commit crimes. Handlers can be police (which is the basis of a parole system) or parents or partners.

Arts said:

poikilotherm said:

Arts said:

maybe, maybe it will balance out with the lesbians marrying good women.

but the statistics show that most criminals are likely to be male, single and aged between 18 and 27. Marriage or long term partnership tend to curb criminal behaviour.

or those males likely to commit crimes are just poor at relationships to start with…

possible, but unlikely, given that many who commit crimes tend to cease the activity after relationships have begun. It is linked to John Eck’s second layer of the crime triangle where ‘motivated criminals’ that have a ‘handler’ (his term) tend not to commit crimes. Handlers can be police (which is the basis of a parole system) or parents or partners.

Wonder how many 18 year olds in long term stable relationships he found.

poikilotherm said:

Arts said:

poikilotherm said:

or those males likely to commit crimes are just poor at relationships to start with…

possible, but unlikely, given that many who commit crimes tend to cease the activity after relationships have begun. It is linked to John Eck’s second layer of the crime triangle where ‘motivated criminals’ that have a ‘handler’ (his term) tend not to commit crimes. Handlers can be police (which is the basis of a parole system) or parents or partners.

Wonder how many 18 year olds in long term stable relationships he found.

you are thinking too specific, these are statistics we are talking about

Arts said:

poikilotherm said:

Arts said:

possible, but unlikely, given that many who commit crimes tend to cease the activity after relationships have begun. It is linked to John Eck’s second layer of the crime triangle where ‘motivated criminals’ that have a ‘handler’ (his term) tend not to commit crimes. Handlers can be police (which is the basis of a parole system) or parents or partners.

Wonder how many 18 year olds in long term stable relationships he found.

you are thinking too specific, these are statistics we are talking about

I think there are quite a few in coed schools.

Arts said:

poikilotherm said:

Arts said:

possible, but unlikely, given that many who commit crimes tend to cease the activity after relationships have begun. It is linked to John Eck’s second layer of the crime triangle where ‘motivated criminals’ that have a ‘handler’ (his term) tend not to commit crimes. Handlers can be police (which is the basis of a parole system) or parents or partners.

Wonder how many 18 year olds in long term stable relationships he found.

you are thinking too specific, these are statistics we are talking about

Skewed

poikilotherm said:

Arts said:

poikilotherm said:

Wonder how many 18 year olds in long term stable relationships he found.

you are thinking too specific, these are statistics we are talking about

Skewed

look, just get married and stop being a criminal

Arts said:

poikilotherm said:

Arts said:

you are thinking too specific, these are statistics we are talking about

Skewed

look, just get married and stop being a criminal

:) my error bars are too big. No wait, I am married.

AwesomeO said:

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

One factor that has been found to increase long-term happiness is marriage. I guess that depends on whom you’re married to ;)

In criminology they say that the first rule to not being a criminal is to marry a good woman.

statistics and all that

What happens if you marry a bad’un?

Your woes would begin.

readed that article

don’t have much to add, the we and us thing was what it was, but I guess it may make it feel friendlier in some way, though it didn’t for me. Might’ve hinted a desire for a cultural softening re sadness, the pathologizing of, signaled caution required, a better approach, which’s worth thinking about. Recruiting though and appealing so with we stuff is probably counterproductive.

it strikes me there’s something of a stereotype of happiness, which is a bastard.

it may even be that happiness (notions, feelings related) can be and have been weaponized, an ideological tool, part of behavior controls.

for the most part normal is quite neutral really, it’s only fucken weirdos that are happy all the time, even weirder are those that pretend to be.

so a more important question is what chips away at neutral of equilibrium internal mental states, the home in the head.

strikes me too there are affirmations of non-hostility, though happiness need not be the primary way this is expressed.

I mean I could see dependence of such affirmations being a problem.

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