Does anyone know the reason Olympics Stadium and the Sydney Football Stadium are being torn down and rebuilt? I’ve been seeing the articles on the topic but none of them actually address the reason.
dv said:
Does anyone know the reason Olympics Stadium and the Sydney Football Stadium are being torn down and rebuilt? I’ve been seeing the articles on the topic but none of them actually address the reason.
Proberlee jealous of Perth.
dv said:
Does anyone know the reason Olympics Stadium and the Sydney Football Stadium are being torn down and rebuilt? I’ve been seeing the articles on the topic but none of them actually address the reason.
NRL crowds. No-one turns up and the stadium looks empty, mainly because it is. The NRL does the best it can do and crowds all the punters into one small sewction so that CH nein can show a thriving crowd for their telecast. Unfortunately some of their cameramen haven’t been trained that well and during a shot of the play have accidentally shown the empty seats. All very embarrassing. I mean from the blimp it looks like an under 12s soccer match is being played. Just not a good look. So they need to build a new stadium with a seating capacity just larger than a suburban bus.
sibeen said:
dv said:
Does anyone know the reason Olympics Stadium and the Sydney Football Stadium are being torn down and rebuilt? I’ve been seeing the articles on the topic but none of them actually address the reason.
NRL crowds. No-one turns up and the stadium looks empty, mainly because it is. The NRL does the best it can do and crowds all the punters into one small sewction so that CH nein can show a thriving crowd for their telecast. Unfortunately some of their cameramen haven’t been trained that well and during a shot of the play have accidentally shown the empty seats. All very embarrassing. I mean from the blimp it looks like an under 12s soccer match is being played. Just not a good look. So they need to build a new stadium with a seating capacity just larger than a suburban bus.
geeez and we have CGI these days. how hard can it be to fill a stadium?
sibeen said:
dv said:
Does anyone know the reason Olympics Stadium and the Sydney Football Stadium are being torn down and rebuilt? I’ve been seeing the articles on the topic but none of them actually address the reason.
NRL crowds. No-one turns up and the stadium looks empty, mainly because it is. The NRL does the best it can do and crowds all the punters into one small sewction so that CH nein can show a thriving crowd for their telecast. Unfortunately some of their cameramen haven’t been trained that well and during a shot of the play have accidentally shown the empty seats. All very embarrassing. I mean from the blimp it looks like an under 12s soccer match is being played. Just not a good look. So they need to build a new stadium with a seating capacity just larger than a suburban bus.
Channel 9 even fake it Beeny Boy.
http://www.bandt.com.au/media/channel-nine-foxtel-accused-broadcasting-old-vision-fake-nrl-crowds
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
Does anyone know the reason Olympics Stadium and the Sydney Football Stadium are being torn down and rebuilt? I’ve been seeing the articles on the topic but none of them actually address the reason.
NRL crowds. No-one turns up and the stadium looks empty, mainly because it is. The NRL does the best it can do and crowds all the punters into one small sewction so that CH nein can show a thriving crowd for their telecast. Unfortunately some of their cameramen haven’t been trained that well and during a shot of the play have accidentally shown the empty seats. All very embarrassing. I mean from the blimp it looks like an under 12s soccer match is being played. Just not a good look. So they need to build a new stadium with a seating capacity just larger than a suburban bus.
Channel 9 even fake it Beeny Boy.
http://www.bandt.com.au/media/channel-nine-foxtel-accused-broadcasting-old-vision-fake-nrl-crowds
ROFL :)
so the plan is to replace a huge stadium with a smaller one so that it doesn’t look so empty when games are shown on TV??
I also hear that the moon landings were faked…
diddly-squat said:
so the plan is to replace a huge stadium with a smaller one so that it doesn’t look so empty when games are shown on TV??
I also hear that the moon landings were faked…
1. Yes.
2. Now you’re just being silly.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:The olympics stadium was oval shaped but now only gets used for rectangular sports. Apparently the seating arrangements are less than optimal. So it is being rebuilt as a rectangle.
The Olympic Stadium IS rectangular (albeit rounded ends). It was rebuilt AFTER the olympics (pulled out 30,000 seats), and made the sidelines retractable to turn it into an oval, when needed. (yes, they’ve played cricket there too) They’re now going to make it even smaller again, apparently. The Olympic Stadium rebuild brought the ends in closer as well. They had to pull some seats out of the MCG to fit the running track for the Commonwealth games.
See? The sides are straight and still are, except they now roll back when needed as an oval after the rebuild. And they pulled the ends down.
migrating from the chat thread.
Even though the Olympics stadium has moveable lower tiers of seating along the sides, the rounded ends and the upper tier are a long way back from the action. I hang around a lot on another forum (yes I am unfaithful but you already know about that) dedicated to AFL and other sports.. One of the bug-bears of many soccer fans (and presumably NRL fans too) is that big stadiums with running tracks are shit for watching soccer.
I guess the other one is just getting old, but being already a rectumangle I don’t see why they can’t just do a bit of a renovation rather than a demolish and rebuild. Being rebuilt to about the same size and crowd capacity seems wasteful, it is never going to host any of the big games like finals, SOO or soccer internationals.
sibeen said:
diddly-squat said:so the plan is to replace a huge stadium with a smaller one so that it doesn’t look so empty when games are shown on TV??
I also hear that the moon landings were faked…
1. Yes.
2. Now you’re just being silly.
maybe we’ll all end up playing AFL and our stadiums will be full to overflowing every week…
the bards will write songs about it…
diddly-squat said:
so the plan is to replace a huge stadium with a smaller one so that it doesn’t look so empty when games are shown on TV??
I also hear that the moon landings were faked…
Will there be no time in the future that a large stadium is useful?
Woodie said:
dv said:
Does anyone know the reason Olympics Stadium and the Sydney Football Stadium are being torn down and rebuilt? I’ve been seeing the articles on the topic but none of them actually address the reason.
Proberlee jealous of Perth.
We were jealous of Melbourne, Adelaide and Brisbane.
sarahs mum said:
diddly-squat said:so the plan is to replace a huge stadium with a smaller one so that it doesn’t look so empty when games are shown on TV??
I also hear that the moon landings were faked…
Will there be no time in the future that a large stadium is useful?
only for AFL games
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:
diddly-squat said:so the plan is to replace a huge stadium with a smaller one so that it doesn’t look so empty when games are shown on TV??
I also hear that the moon landings were faked…
1. Yes.
2. Now you’re just being silly.
maybe we’ll all end up playing AFL and our stadiums will be full to overflowing every week…
the bards will write songs about it…
Again, you’re just being silly. What about cricket season?
shakes head in bemusement
sibeen said:
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:1. Yes.
2. Now you’re just being silly.
maybe we’ll all end up playing AFL and our stadiums will be full to overflowing every week…
the bards will write songs about it…
Again, you’re just being silly. What about cricket season?
shakes head in bemusement
They are moving the cricket from the Sydney Cricket Ground now??
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:
diddly-squat said:maybe we’ll all end up playing AFL and our stadiums will be full to overflowing every week…
the bards will write songs about it…
Again, you’re just being silly. What about cricket season?
shakes head in bemusement
They are moving the cricket from the Sydney Cricket Ground now??
I think the Chunder have moved to the Showgrounds oval.
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:
diddly-squat said:maybe we’ll all end up playing AFL and our stadiums will be full to overflowing every week…
the bards will write songs about it…
Again, you’re just being silly. What about cricket season?
shakes head in bemusement
They are moving the cricket from the Sydney Cricket Ground now??
No, but once they build the new, improved, extra small ground they can then move some of the big bash games from North Sydney oval and the like. It’s all a win win.
party_pants said:
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:Again, you’re just being silly. What about cricket season?
shakes head in bemusement
They are moving the cricket from the Sydney Cricket Ground now??
I think the Chunder have moved to the Showgrounds oval.
maybe we could just play all the games at the MCG and solve the problem
sibeen said:
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:Again, you’re just being silly. What about cricket season?
shakes head in bemusement
They are moving the cricket from the Sydney Cricket Ground now??
No, but once they build the new, improved, extra small ground they can then move some of the big bash games from North Sydney oval and the like. It’s all a win win.
I’ll pay that
diddly-squat said:
party_pants said:
diddly-squat said:They are moving the cricket from the Sydney Cricket Ground now??
I think the Chunder have moved to the Showgrounds oval.
maybe we could just play all the games at the MCG and solve the problem
Victorians would probably pay good money to turn up and watch too
diddly-squat said:
party_pants said:
diddly-squat said:They are moving the cricket from the Sydney Cricket Ground now??
I think the Chunder have moved to the Showgrounds oval.
maybe we could just play all the games at the MCG and solve the problem
Melbourne crowds would more than likely nearly ignore the Sydney based teams. I mean you may only end up getting twice or three times their average Sydney crowds if you played their games in Melbourne.
party_pants said:
diddly-squat said:
party_pants said:I think the Chunder have moved to the Showgrounds oval.
maybe we could just play all the games at the MCG and solve the problem
Victorians would probably pay good money to turn up and watch too
it is after all the greatest, most sports mad, city in Australia
sibeen said:
diddly-squat said:
party_pants said:I think the Chunder have moved to the Showgrounds oval.
maybe we could just play all the games at the MCG and solve the problem
Melbourne crowds would more than likely nearly ignore the Sydney based teams. I mean you may only end up getting twice or three times their average Sydney crowds if you played their games in Melbourne.
One of my mates used to carry around these news clippings in his wallet that he’d cut out of the paper that were about crowd size statistics for AFL vs NRL so that he could use them to illustrates how awesome Victorians, or more specifically, Melbournians were…
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:
diddly-squat said:maybe we could just play all the games at the MCG and solve the problem
Melbourne crowds would more than likely nearly ignore the Sydney based teams. I mean you may only end up getting twice or three times their average Sydney crowds if you played their games in Melbourne.
One of my mates used to carry around these news clippings in his wallet that he’d cut out of the paper that were about crowd size statistics for AFL vs NRL so that he could use them to illustrates how awesome Victorians, or more specifically, Melbournians were…
bit unfair when Sydney doesn’t have a purpose built stadium optimised for their preferred sport. Prolly has never had one.
but your mate needs to get a life.
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:
diddly-squat said:maybe we could just play all the games at the MCG and solve the problem
Melbourne crowds would more than likely nearly ignore the Sydney based teams. I mean you may only end up getting twice or three times their average Sydney crowds if you played their games in Melbourne.
One of my mates used to carry around these news clippings in his wallet that he’d cut out of the paper that were about crowd size statistics for AFL vs NRL so that he could use them to illustrates how awesome Victorians, or more specifically, Melbournians were…
Obviously a wise and intelligent person. Did he go on to greatness?
dv said:
Does anyone know the reason Olympics Stadium and the Sydney Football Stadium are being torn down and rebuilt? I’ve been seeing the articles on the topic but none of them actually address the reason.
Not sure.
It’s something to do with small government and giving the tax payer value for money I think.
diddly-squat said:
so the plan is to replace a huge stadium with a smaller one so that it doesn’t look so empty when games are shown on TV??
I also hear that the moon landings were faked…
Why didn’t they just paint the empty seats to look like people are sitting in them?
Tau.Neutrino said:
diddly-squat said:so the plan is to replace a huge stadium with a smaller one so that it doesn’t look so empty when games are shown on TV??
I also hear that the moon landings were faked…
Why didn’t they just paint the empty seats to look like people are sitting in them?
Air dolls?
Seems like a ridiculous waste money.
Tau.Neutrino said:
diddly-squat said:so the plan is to replace a huge stadium with a smaller one so that it doesn’t look so empty when games are shown on TV??
I also hear that the moon landings were faked…
Why didn’t they just paint the empty seats to look like people are sitting in them?
That’s not a crazy idea. Music performers used to hate the empty seats in a famous concert venue because the seats were bright red. Being red, the number of empty seats was shockingly visible. An upgrade replaced the colour with a less conspicuous one.
So yes, paint the seats to look full. The audience wouldn’t mind.
Tau.Neutrino said:
diddly-squat said:so the plan is to replace a huge stadium with a smaller one so that it doesn’t look so empty when games are shown on TV??
I also hear that the moon landings were faked…
Why didn’t they just paint the empty seats to look like people are sitting in them?
They do that at the Gabba.
sibeen said:
dv said:
Does anyone know the reason Olympics Stadium and the Sydney Football Stadium are being torn down and rebuilt? I’ve been seeing the articles on the topic but none of them actually address the reason.
NRL crowds. No-one turns up and the stadium looks empty, mainly because it is. The NRL does the best it can do and crowds all the punters into one small sewction so that CH nein can show a thriving crowd for their telecast. Unfortunately some of their cameramen haven’t been trained that well and during a shot of the play have accidentally shown the empty seats. All very embarrassing. I mean from the blimp it looks like an under 12s soccer match is being played. Just not a good look. So they need to build a new stadium with a seating capacity just larger than a suburban bus.
But they are tearing down these stadiums and rebuilding them with the same number of seats.
I’ve been reading all the articles and I still don’t have any sense of what the point is. The Olympic Stadium is a very new stadium, state of the art in 2000. SFS is coming up on 30 and I’m sure needs to some work to come up to code but you don’t need to the demolish the fucking thing. Are they really building stadiums so shoddily that they need to be shitcanned after such a short time?
Anfield stadium has been in place since the 19th century for fuck’s sake. One of the stands was partly replaced to expand it but even that was in 1973.
Sport Minister Mr Ayres said the SFS had come to the end of its life and it was now only “borderline safe”.He said it also lacked enough female toilets and seats for disabled fans.
“I am not going to be a Sports Minister that locks out women and people with a disability from coming to experience the best sport and entertainment here in NSW,” he said.
So are they trying to tell me with a straight face that putting in some more toilets would be more expensive and complicated than demolishing the whole stadium and rebuilding it for a billion dollars?
How does this kind of thing happen? Who exactly wants this? There are so many things that NSW has to attend to. There are over 100000 schoolkids being taught in demountable buildings. Their hospital emergency wait times are the worst in the country. There’s still a housing crisis. Shit, why not bowl one of the stadiums and build affordable housing in its place, at least that would achieve something.
I agree. Does seem wasteful.
The Olympics stadium has current seating capacity of about 85,000 and is to be rebuilt to 75,000, so will be significantly less. The main argument for rebuilding it is to give a better view and more facilities for the spectators. It is hard to reconfigure the ground from oval with moveable banks of seating to dedicated rectangle layout without spending a shitload of money. These are not very compelling reasons, seems more like fulfilling a want than a need.
The stadium next door to the SCG, currently 43,000 capacity, to be rebuilt to 45,000. For no good reason as far as I can see. A renovation should be the obvious solution, even a major one that might need to tear down and rebuild sections of it. But I can’t see why they need to tear down the whole thing. It seems like the major argument for it that the trustees that own/control it are politically well-connected and said it’s not fair to spend taxpayer money rebuilding one stadium without giving us money for a brand new stadium too.
dv said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
Does anyone know the reason Olympics Stadium and the Sydney Football Stadium are being torn down and rebuilt? I’ve been seeing the articles on the topic but none of them actually address the reason.
NRL crowds. No-one turns up and the stadium looks empty, mainly because it is. The NRL does the best it can do and crowds all the punters into one small sewction so that CH nein can show a thriving crowd for their telecast. Unfortunately some of their cameramen haven’t been trained that well and during a shot of the play have accidentally shown the empty seats. All very embarrassing. I mean from the blimp it looks like an under 12s soccer match is being played. Just not a good look. So they need to build a new stadium with a seating capacity just larger than a suburban bus.
But they are tearing down these stadiums and rebuilding them with the same number of seats.
I’ve been reading all the articles and I still don’t have any sense of what the point is. The Olympic Stadium is a very new stadium, state of the art in 2000. SFS is coming up on 30 and I’m sure needs to some work to come up to code but you don’t need to the demolish the fucking thing. Are they really building stadiums so shoddily that they need to be shitcanned after such a short time?
Anfield stadium has been in place since the 19th century for fuck’s sake. One of the stands was partly replaced to expand it but even that was in 1973.
Sport Minister Mr Ayres said the SFS had come to the end of its life and it was now only “borderline safe”.He said it also lacked enough female toilets and seats for disabled fans.
“I am not going to be a Sports Minister that locks out women and people with a disability from coming to experience the best sport and entertainment here in NSW,” he said.
So are they trying to tell me with a straight face that putting in some more toilets would be more expensive and complicated than demolishing the whole stadium and rebuilding it for a billion dollars?
How does this kind of thing happen? Who exactly wants this? There are so many things that NSW has to attend to. There are over 100000 schoolkids being taught in demountable buildings. Their hospital emergency wait times are the worst in the country. There’s still a housing crisis. Shit, why not bowl one of the stadiums and build affordable housing in its place, at least that would achieve something.
The whole thing smells of corruption.
Wonders if 4 corners will get a story?
They need to hire the company that built the collosium.
Are either of these rebuilds going to include a open/close roof?
furious said:
Are either of these rebuilds going to include a open/close roof?
The minister’s statement I read a couple of days ago was undecided on having a retractable roof, they are waiting for designs and costing before making a final decision.
Posted on another forum, but no source quoted, with regards to the Sydney Football Stadium:
“the advice is that an occupancy certificate would not be issued past 2019. The concourse has 48 women’s toilet cubicles where current standards say there should be 328. There are 14 spaces for the disabled where there should be over 100. The ground should be able to be evacuated in 7-8 minutes where currently it would take 28 due to the narrow walkways. The seats are flammable and there is no sprinkler system.”
still doesn’t answer the question why they can’t do a major refit and remodeling rather than knock the whole bloody thing down.
party_pants said:
Posted on another forum, but no source quoted, with regards to the Sydney Football Stadium:“the advice is that an occupancy certificate would not be issued past 2019. The concourse has 48 women’s toilet cubicles where current standards say there should be 328. There are 14 spaces for the disabled where there should be over 100. The ground should be able to be evacuated in 7-8 minutes where currently it would take 28 due to the narrow walkways. The seats are flammable and there is no sprinkler system.”
still doesn’t answer the question why they can’t do a major refit and remodeling rather than knock the whole bloody thing down.
Our grandstand has a sign saying it can seat 250 people.
Tau.Neutrino said:
They need to hire the company that built the colosseum.
Hmm. I have noticed a tendency for the largest modern stadiums to be archaic in design in the sense that they have literally millions of small individual connections that need to be done on site to high accuracy.
Construction time, accuracy and cost could be greatly improved by massive prefabrication off site. eg. a complete long-span bridge in the middle east was prefabricated in just four pieces, so could be assembled in a couple of weeks by unskilled labour to perfect accuracy.
Perhaps large parts could be ferried in on barges.
have you built a multi billion stadium ?
do you have empty seats?
you need tube man – the only guaranteed seat filler in christendom
wookiemeister said:
have you built a multi billion stadium ?do you have empty seats?
you need tube man – the only guaranteed seat filler in christendom
Can you prove he is Christian?
sarahs mum said:
diddly-squat said:so the plan is to replace a huge stadium with a smaller one so that it doesn’t look so empty when games are shown on TV??
I also hear that the moon landings were faked…
Will there be no time in the future that a large stadium is useful?
dv said:
wookiemeister said:
have you built a multi billion stadium ?do you have empty seats?
you need tube man – the only guaranteed seat filler in christendom
Can you prove he is Christian?
the aussies must be brainless when they piss billions up against the wall on stadiums whilst they’ve got 100,000 homeless or can’t even make important stuff like vaccinations totally free to anyone
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:
diddly-squat said:so the plan is to replace a huge stadium with a smaller one so that it doesn’t look so empty when games are shown on TV??
I also hear that the moon landings were faked…
1. Yes.
2. Now you’re just being silly.
maybe we’ll all end up playing AFL and our stadiums will be full to overflowing every week…
the bards will write songs about it…
