Date: 1/12/2017 13:20:27
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1155883
Subject: Neuron count suggests dogs are smarter than cats

To put the cat among the pigeons so to speak.

>>Which animal is smarter? Dogs or cats. It’s an eternal argument and one virtually impossible to answer due to the abstract nature of intelligence. Throwing some scientific evidence into the debate is a new study from an international team of scientists attempting to quantify an animal’s smarts by calculating the number of neurons in their cerebral cortex. The results don’t bode well for our feline friends.<<

https://newatlas.com/dogs-smarter-cats-neuron-density-study/52416/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=954dd356e8-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_65b67362bd-954dd356e8-92533145

Interesting read.

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Date: 1/12/2017 13:25:24
From: buffy
ID: 1155888
Subject: re: Neuron count suggests dogs are smarter than cats

PermeateFree said:


To put the cat among the pigeons so to speak.

>>Which animal is smarter? Dogs or cats. It’s an eternal argument and one virtually impossible to answer due to the abstract nature of intelligence. Throwing some scientific evidence into the debate is a new study from an international team of scientists attempting to quantify an animal’s smarts by calculating the number of neurons in their cerebral cortex. The results don’t bode well for our feline friends.<<

https://newatlas.com/dogs-smarter-cats-neuron-density-study/52416/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=954dd356e8-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_65b67362bd-954dd356e8-92533145

Interesting read.

I wonder if they were game to compare to humans. I haven’t got the wherewithal to read that right now. I’ll come back to it tonight.

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Date: 1/12/2017 13:34:37
From: Cymek
ID: 1155892
Subject: re: Neuron count suggests dogs are smarter than cats

Dogs seem to be able to be trained to do more things but perhaps cats could do them same but don’t want to.

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Date: 1/12/2017 13:36:19
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1155893
Subject: re: Neuron count suggests dogs are smarter than cats

PermeateFree said:


To put the cat among the pigeons so to speak.

>>Which animal is smarter? Dogs or cats. It’s an eternal argument and one virtually impossible to answer due to the abstract nature of intelligence. Throwing some scientific evidence into the debate is a new study from an international team of scientists attempting to quantify an animal’s smarts by calculating the number of neurons in their cerebral cortex. The results don’t bode well for our feline friends.<<

https://newatlas.com/dogs-smarter-cats-neuron-density-study/52416/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=954dd356e8-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_65b67362bd-954dd356e8-92533145

Interesting read.

cats are the work of the devil and no good will ever come of them

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Date: 2/12/2017 01:39:36
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1156237
Subject: re: Neuron count suggests dogs are smarter than cats

PermeateFree said:


To put the cat among the pigeons so to speak.

>>Which animal is smarter? Dogs or cats. It’s an eternal argument and one virtually impossible to answer due to the abstract nature of intelligence. Throwing some scientific evidence into the debate is a new study from an international team of scientists attempting to quantify an animal’s smarts by calculating the number of neurons in their cerebral cortex. The results don’t bode well for our feline friends.<<

https://newatlas.com/dogs-smarter-cats-neuron-density-study/52416/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=954dd356e8-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_65b67362bd-954dd356e8-92533145

Interesting read.

The adult woman on the right has normal intelligence, despite the smaller head. Is it correct to assume that she has a smaller neuron count? Some smaller people do have lower intelligence, but some of the smallest have normal intelligence.

Large dogs would have a higher cerebral neuron count that small dogs. But I doubt that that size of dog closely correlates to the intelligence of the breed.

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Date: 2/12/2017 03:05:14
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1156246
Subject: re: Neuron count suggests dogs are smarter than cats

mollwollfumble said:


PermeateFree said:

To put the cat among the pigeons so to speak.

>>Which animal is smarter? Dogs or cats. It’s an eternal argument and one virtually impossible to answer due to the abstract nature of intelligence. Throwing some scientific evidence into the debate is a new study from an international team of scientists attempting to quantify an animal’s smarts by calculating the number of neurons in their cerebral cortex. The results don’t bode well for our feline friends.<<

https://newatlas.com/dogs-smarter-cats-neuron-density-study/52416/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=954dd356e8-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_65b67362bd-954dd356e8-92533145

Interesting read.

The adult woman on the right has normal intelligence, despite the smaller head. Is it correct to assume that she has a smaller neuron count? Some smaller people do have lower intelligence, but some of the smallest have normal intelligence.

Large dogs would have a higher cerebral neuron count that small dogs. But I doubt that that size of dog closely correlates to the intelligence of the breed.


I take it that you didn’t bother reading the article.

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Date: 2/12/2017 14:07:42
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1156343
Subject: re: Neuron count suggests dogs are smarter than cats

PermeateFree said:

I take it that you didn’t bother reading the article.

The article didn’t say anything. It didn’t say anything about small vs large dog breeds. It didn’t say anything about small vs large humans.

It’s true that I didn’t read the article before posting the reply, but I read it afterwards and saw no reason to change my reply.

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Date: 2/12/2017 18:11:53
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1156485
Subject: re: Neuron count suggests dogs are smarter than cats

mollwollfumble said:


PermeateFree said:

I take it that you didn’t bother reading the article.

The article didn’t say anything. It didn’t say anything about small vs large dog breeds. It didn’t say anything about small vs large humans.

It’s true that I didn’t read the article before posting the reply, but I read it afterwards and saw no reason to change my reply.

Suggest you read again!

>>So what was the final count for dogs versus cats? Dogs won out overwhelmingly with approximately 530 million cortical neurons, while cats were only found to have approximately 250 million cortical neurons. For a relative comparison, a human brain holds around 16 billion cortical neurons.

It’s quite a significant difference, but what makes the metric even more interesting is that, when applied to other animals, the study did not see a consistent brain size to cortical neuron ratio. So the bigger the brain didn’t necessarily mean more cortical neurons.

The brain of a common golden retriever dog, for example, was found to have more cortical neurons than a brown bear, which has a brain three times larger. In fact a brown bear was found to have a similar number of neurons as a cat.

As a side note, one of the brainiest animals from a brain size to neuron density perspective was the raccoon, which has a brain the size of a cat, but a neuronal density similar to that of a dog.<<

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