Date: 11/12/2017 17:04:30
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160067
Subject: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Laser holograms create 3D-printed objects in seconds, no layering required

How do you create complex 3D-printed objects in seconds, instead of hours or days? A team of scientists and engineers led by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL) has developed a process that uses hologram-like lasers to make complete objects in seconds inside a tank of liquid resin. Called volumetric 3D printing, the process overcomes many of the limitations of conventional additive manufacturing.

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Date: 11/12/2017 17:10:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1160070
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Jolly good.

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Date: 11/12/2017 19:24:34
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1160145
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

That’s very progressive, I can see a lot of problems to overcome but that’s what research is all about.

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:06:02
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160433
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Imagine 3d printing a whole car body or a whole air frame shell etc

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:11:52
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1160435
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Imagine 3d printing a whole car body or a whole air frame shell etc

3D printing doesn’t really make economic sense for anything bar custom goods. An airframe is still best made out of manufactured components.

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:16:47
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1160436
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

And 3D printing car body parts is impractical considering that hundreds can be pressed in a matter of minutes.

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:27:48
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160442
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Both arguments will be obsolete in a few years.

A few seconds is better than few minutes, hours or days etc.

Joins are a weakness in the over all body.

No joins would add strength.

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:30:10
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160443
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:

Both arguments will be obsolete in a few years.

A few seconds is better than few minutes, hours or days etc.

Joins are a weakness in the over all body.

No joins would add strength.

so you get a dent in the front corner and have to replace the whoe shell?

very economical

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:37:48
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160444
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Stumpy_seahorse said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Both arguments will be obsolete in a few years.

A few seconds is better than few minutes, hours or days etc.

Joins are a weakness in the over all body.

No joins would add strength.

so you get a dent in the front corner and have to replace the whoe shell?

very economical

Whats wrong with filling the dent or cracks using 3 D printing again?

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:41:39
From: Cymek
ID: 1160445
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

It says it’s inside liquid resin so could you print a 3d object in seconds with a different material

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:43:17
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160446
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Stumpy_seahorse said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Both arguments will be obsolete in a few years.

A few seconds is better than few minutes, hours or days etc.

Joins are a weakness in the over all body.

No joins would add strength.

so you get a dent in the front corner and have to replace the whoe shell?

very economical

Whats wrong with filling the dent or cracks using 3 D printing again?

in yourwords..
“Joins are a weakness in the over all body.”

which is incorrect when it comes to welding steel anyway, but true for printed joins

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:43:42
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160447
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Stumpy_seahorse said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Both arguments will be obsolete in a few years.

A few seconds is better than few minutes, hours or days etc.

Joins are a weakness in the over all body.

No joins would add strength.

so you get a dent in the front corner and have to replace the whoe shell?

very economical

Whats wrong with filling the dent or cracks using 3 D printing again?

A drone robot 3D printer that can walk up to a car body.

Then do its 3D Printing on the surface of the car.

Then paints it as well.

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:44:44
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160448
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Cymek said:


It says it’s inside liquid resin so could you print a 3d object in seconds with a different material

I imagine newer materials will come out allowing for more flexibility. a new field of research.

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:46:04
From: furious
ID: 1160449
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Always with the drones…

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:46:08
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1160450
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Stumpy_seahorse said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

so you get a dent in the front corner and have to replace the whoe shell?

very economical

Whats wrong with filling the dent or cracks using 3 D printing again?

in yourwords..
“Joins are a weakness in the over all body.”

which is incorrect when it comes to welding steel anyway, but true for printed joins

it is also incorrect when you are using sisaflex (sp) to join panels.

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:46:59
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1160451
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:

Both arguments will be obsolete in a few years.

A few seconds is better than few minutes, hours or days etc.

Joins are a weakness in the over all body.

No joins would add strength.

Show working.

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:48:18
From: Cymek
ID: 1160452
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

furious said:

  • A drone robot 3D printer that can walk up to a car body.

Always with the drones…

He goes on and on about them, what’s that word about going on and on about something

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:48:26
From: furious
ID: 1160453
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

It’s the vibe of the thing…

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:49:04
From: furious
ID: 1160454
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

I see what you did there…

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:49:05
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1160455
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

furious said:

  • A drone robot 3D printer that can walk up to a car body.

Always with the drones…

Wookie loved drones. People say he became obsessed. Went mad.

tears up

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:49:35
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160456
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

so you get a dent in the front corner and have to replace the whoe shell?

very economical

Whats wrong with filling the dent or cracks using 3 D printing again?

A drone robot 3D printer that can walk up to a car body.

Then do its 3D Printing on the surface of the car.

Then paints it as well.

you really haave no concept of anything, do you..

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:50:59
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1160459
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Cymek said:


It says it’s inside liquid resin so could you print a 3d object in seconds with a different material

i think the main drawback regarding time is getting a 3D object to be uniformly and consistently formed within the resin. without affecting volumes of resin that you don’t want to harden.

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:51:50
From: Michael V
ID: 1160462
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Sikaflex.

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:52:40
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1160463
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Michael V said:


Sikaflex.

Ta. Strong stuff.

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:53:09
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160465
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Stumpy_seahorse said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

so you get a dent in the front corner and have to replace the whoe shell?

very economical

Whats wrong with filling the dent or cracks using 3 D printing again?

in yourwords..
“Joins are a weakness in the over all body.”

which is incorrect when it comes to welding steel anyway, but true for printed joins

As a designer I see joins as a weakness, to eliminate them would be good, 3 D printing can do this.

Visually joins are also an eye sore!

I imagine a Bugatti Veyron without any joins in the car body, it would look better, no eyesore lines.

No lines in which dirt or dust or water can get in.

A car interior also with no lines, no dirt or dust can can in.

Dust and dirt in lines annoys me as a designer, so to eliminate them would be great. 3D printing can do this.

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:54:08
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1160466
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

Sikaflex.

Ta. Strong stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYCM2Xlx-ko

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:54:38
From: Michael V
ID: 1160467
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

Sikaflex.

Ta. Strong stuff.

I think it’s polyurethane.

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:56:19
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1160469
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Michael V said:


JudgeMental said:

Michael V said:

Sikaflex.

Ta. Strong stuff.

I think it’s polyurethane.

yeah, it’s a one component, thixotropic, polyurethane based joint sealant. It cures under the influence of atmospheric moisture to form an elastomeric material with adhesive properties, in some cases without the need for priming of the substrate.

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:56:33
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160470
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

See this picture of this rather sexy looking car, now it has some lines in it which could be eliminated, there’s around 6 lines in the exterior body which could all vanish. It would look much better without them.

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Date: 12/12/2017 16:59:40
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1160473
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


See this picture of this rather sexy looking car, now it has some lines in it which could be eliminated, there’s around 6 lines in the exterior body which could all vanish. It would look much better without them.


You’d have to take the whole shell of to put your golf clubs in the boot or to check the oil.
No, it wont work.

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:01:55
From: furious
ID: 1160475
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Where do you put the fuel in?

Sorry, you can’t. It comes pre-loaded with a tank of fuel but that is it. So, choose your destinations wisely…

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:06:31
From: Cymek
ID: 1160477
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

furious said:

  • You’d have to take the whole shell of to put your golf clubs in the boot or to check the oil.

Where do you put the fuel in?

Sorry, you can’t. It comes pre-loaded with a tank of fuel but that is it. So, choose your destinations wisely…

I wonder if tank armour would benefit from being all one piece assuming you could work with something that heavy

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:08:34
From: furious
ID: 1160479
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

I wouldn’t think that is a good idea. Don’t tanks, and armoured things like that, have sort of “Crumple” panels designed to take the momentum out of impacts?

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:08:49
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160480
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Peak Warming Man said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

See this picture of this rather sexy looking car, now it has some lines in it which could be eliminated, there’s around 6 lines in the exterior body which could all vanish. It would look much better without them.


You’d have to take the whole shell of to put your golf clubs in the boot or to check the oil.
No, it wont work.

I’m not referring to the door lines boot or bonnet lines.

Only the body work lines. this is possible now.

But since you bought it up, the Next Step in 3 printing after that would be vanishing those door, boot and bonnet lines as well, the lines appear then disappear when you open of close something.

Another Next Step for the future would be 3D printing the glass and the body together so there are no lines between body and glass.

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:10:54
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1160483
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

furious said:

  • I wonder if tank armour would benefit from being all one piece assuming you could work with something that heavy

I wouldn’t think that is a good idea. Don’t tanks, and armoured things like that, have sort of “Crumple” panels designed to take the momentum out of impacts?

some have reactive armour, those block things you see on tanks. they explode outwards when hit.

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:11:41
From: Cymek
ID: 1160484
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

See this picture of this rather sexy looking car, now it has some lines in it which could be eliminated, there’s around 6 lines in the exterior body which could all vanish. It would look much better without them.


You’d have to take the whole shell of to put your golf clubs in the boot or to check the oil.
No, it wont work.

I’m not referring to the door lines boot or bonnet lines.

Only the body work lines. this is possible now.

But since you bought it up, the Next Step in 3 printing after that would be vanishing those door, boot and bonnet lines as well, the lines appear then disappear when you open of close something.

Another Next Step for the future would be 3D printing the glass and the body together so there are no lines between body and glass.

That would be useful so you don’t have to have seals

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:12:43
From: furious
ID: 1160486
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

That was the shadow of a thought that was rattling around…

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:13:07
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1160488
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

See this picture of this rather sexy looking car, now it has some lines in it which could be eliminated, there’s around 6 lines in the exterior body which could all vanish. It would look much better without them.


You’d have to take the whole shell of to put your golf clubs in the boot or to check the oil.
No, it wont work.

I’m not referring to the door lines boot or bonnet lines.

Only the body work lines. this is possible now.

But since you bought it up, the Next Step in 3 printing after that would be vanishing those door, boot and bonnet lines as well, the lines appear then disappear when you open of close something.

Another Next Step for the future would be 3D printing the glass and the body together so there are no lines between body and glass.

they are called ‘‘gaps”.

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:13:47
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160489
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

See this picture of this rather sexy looking car, now it has some lines in it which could be eliminated, there’s around 6 lines in the exterior body which could all vanish. It would look much better without them.


You’d have to take the whole shell of to put your golf clubs in the boot or to check the oil.
No, it wont work.

I’m not referring to the door lines boot or bonnet lines.

Only the body work lines. this is possible now.

But since you bought it up, the Next Step in 3 printing after that would be vanishing those door, boot and bonnet lines as well, the lines appear then disappear when you open of close something.

Another Next Step for the future would be 3D printing the glass and the body together so there are no lines between body and glass.

>>>I’m not referring to the door lines boot or bonnet lines.

or petrol cap lines, door handle lines, sunroof lines, window lines etc.

And joining the light covers and joining the grill to the body would be great too.

Now, no more dust or dirt can get into where those gap lines were.

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:13:55
From: furious
ID: 1160491
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Your insurance won’t be giving a free windscreen a year, if the window and body were combined, that’s for sure…

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:16:00
From: Michael V
ID: 1160492
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

Ta. Strong stuff.

I think it’s polyurethane.

yeah, it’s a one component, thixotropic, polyurethane based joint sealant. It cures under the influence of atmospheric moisture to form an elastomeric material with adhesive properties, in some cases without the need for priming of the substrate.

:)

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:16:10
From: Cymek
ID: 1160493
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Window frames might be useful all printed in one so they don’t have annoying gaps that are hard to clean
Perhaps hospital equipment to minimise places nasty bacteria, etc can breed

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:17:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1160494
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

If you get rid of too many lines people will complain about the lack of lines.

“I’m not paying over $2.5 million for a Bugatti when they skimp on the lines like that.”

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:17:22
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160495
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Peak Warming Man said:

You’d have to take the whole shell of to put your golf clubs in the boot or to check the oil.
No, it wont work.

I’m not referring to the door lines boot or bonnet lines.

Only the body work lines. this is possible now.

But since you bought it up, the Next Step in 3 printing after that would be vanishing those door, boot and bonnet lines as well, the lines appear then disappear when you open of close something.

Another Next Step for the future would be 3D printing the glass and the body together so there are no lines between body and glass.

>>>I’m not referring to the door lines boot or bonnet lines.

or petrol cap lines, door handle lines, sunroof lines, window lines etc.

And joining the light covers and joining the grill to the body would be great too.

Now, no more dust or dirt can get into where those gap lines were.

yeah, no air for the motor, no ac, no fresh air in the cabin…

sounds fantastic

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:17:39
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1160496
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Michael V said:


JudgeMental said:

Michael V said:

I think it’s polyurethane.

yeah, it’s a one component, thixotropic, polyurethane based joint sealant. It cures under the influence of atmospheric moisture to form an elastomeric material with adhesive properties, in some cases without the need for priming of the substrate.

:)

i did steal that.

:-)

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:20:08
From: Michael V
ID: 1160497
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

furious said:

  • I wonder if tank armour would benefit from being all one piece assuming you could work with something that heavy

I wouldn’t think that is a good idea. Don’t tanks, and armoured things like that, have sort of “Crumple” panels designed to take the momentum out of impacts?

Cars, too.

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:20:47
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160498
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Stumpy_seahorse said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Whats wrong with filling the dent or cracks using 3 D printing again?

in yourwords..
“Joins are a weakness in the over all body.”

which is incorrect when it comes to welding steel anyway, but true for printed joins

As a designer I see joins as a weakness, to eliminate them would be good, 3 D printing can do this.

Visually joins are also an eye sore!

I imagine a Bugatti Veyron without any joins in the car body, it would look better, no eyesore lines.

No lines in which dirt or dust or water can get in.

A car interior also with no lines, no dirt or dust can can in.

Dust and dirt in lines annoys me as a designer, so to eliminate them would be great. 3D printing can do this.

>>I imagine a Bugatti Veyron without any joins in the car body, it would look better, no eyesore lines.

they did that.. it’s called a Taurus.

the whole thing was an eyesore, but no straight lines

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:21:30
From: furious
ID: 1160499
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

The lines are also not haphazard, they play an important part in the overall aesthetics…

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:23:17
From: Michael V
ID: 1160500
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

yeah, it’s a one component, thixotropic, polyurethane based joint sealant. It cures under the influence of atmospheric moisture to form an elastomeric material with adhesive properties, in some cases without the need for priming of the substrate.

:)

i did steal that.

:-)

I guessed that was the case. Hence the smile.

:)

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:23:32
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160501
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Bubblecar said:


If you get rid of too many lines people will complain about the lack of lines.

“I’m not paying over $2.5 million for a Bugatti when they skimp on the lines like that.”

you will find that every line on the Bugatti serves a purpose, whether it be aero or function, there are no aesthetic lines on that car.

take any out and you have a $2.5 million dollar lump that doesn’t work

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:24:05
From: Cymek
ID: 1160502
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

furious said:

  • If you get rid of too many lines people will complain about the lack of lines.

The lines are also not haphazard, they play an important part in the overall aesthetics…

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:25:34
From: furious
ID: 1160503
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Whilst they serve a purpose I think they are designed as aesthetic as well as functional. You don’t be wanting no ugly lines on a $2.5 million car…

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:26:17
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1160504
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

furious said:

  • If you get rid of too many lines people will complain about the lack of lines.

The lines are also not haphazard, they play an important part in the overall aesthetics…

Yes.

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:28:44
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1160505
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

furious said:

  • If you get rid of too many lines people will complain about the lack of lines.

The lines are also not haphazard, they play an important part in the overall aesthetics…

Indeed Audi and Rolls (VAG) have spent a lot of money on stamping mechanisms that increase the sharpness of swathe lines.

If you look at any initial pencil line sketch of a car design language it is a shape emphasised by three ot four slashes to convey the intent and motion. Most soft language cars have been derided as Jellybeans and the language doesn’t date well.

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:29:26
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160506
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

furious said:

  • there are no aesthetic lines on that car.

Whilst they serve a purpose I think they are designed as aesthetic as well as functional. You don’t be wanting no ugly lines on a $2.5 million car…

No line was put on there with asthetics as the first thought.
the design brief was 1000+hp and 400kph, no matter the cost.

It was mainly luck that aerodynamics looked so good

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:29:42
From: Michael V
ID: 1160507
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

furious said:

  • there are no aesthetic lines on that car.

Whilst they serve a purpose I think they are designed as aesthetic as well as functional. You don’t be wanting no ugly lines on a $2.5 million car…

I don’t be wanting a $2.5 million motor car…

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:31:23
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1160508
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Stumpy_seahorse said:


furious said:
  • there are no aesthetic lines on that car.

Whilst they serve a purpose I think they are designed as aesthetic as well as functional. You don’t be wanting no ugly lines on a $2.5 million car…

No line was put on there with asthetics as the first thought.
the design brief was 1000+hp and 400kph, no matter the cost.

It was mainly luck that aerodynamics looked so good

If it looks good it usually works good it is reckoned.

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:34:28
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1160509
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

One thing that will really change car design is electrics, without the need to package a lump at the front (or any where else) for the engine and a lot less cooling requirements the field opens up and lighting requirements have changed as well, so the eyes of a car the headlights can be remade into slashes or even with material advances hidden in the bodywork until switched on.

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:37:55
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160510
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

AwesomeO said:


One thing that will really change car design is electrics, without the need to package a lump at the front (or any where else) for the engine and a lot less cooling requirements the field opens up and lighting requirements have changed as well, so the eyes of a car the headlights can be remade into slashes or even with material advances hidden in the bodywork until switched on.

I think it will still take a while to revise ADRs.
They’ll still govern location of certain components, so a car will still look like a car for a while yet

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Date: 12/12/2017 17:42:45
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160511
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Yes lines can have aesthetic value

They can make cars look more masculine or with using curves look more feminine the Bugatti Veyron and Chiron illustrate this aesthetic

The petrol cap lines will disappear if / when Bugatti release an all electric version of the car.

:)

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Date: 12/12/2017 18:07:26
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1160520
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Yes lines can have aesthetic value

They can make cars look more masculine or with using curves look more feminine the Bugatti Veyron and Chiron illustrate this aesthetic

The petrol cap lines will disappear if / when Bugatti release an all electric version of the car.

:)

they are not lines, they are called gaps.

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Date: 12/12/2017 18:09:47
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160522
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Yes lines can have aesthetic value

They can make cars look more masculine or with using curves look more feminine the Bugatti Veyron and Chiron illustrate this aesthetic

The petrol cap lines will disappear if / when Bugatti release an all electric version of the car.

:)

better start saving your centrelink cheques….

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Date: 12/12/2017 18:52:48
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160526
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

JudgeMental said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Yes lines can have aesthetic value

They can make cars look more masculine or with using curves look more feminine the Bugatti Veyron and Chiron illustrate this aesthetic

The petrol cap lines will disappear if / when Bugatti release an all electric version of the car.

:)

they are not lines, they are called gaps.

ok, gap lines, join lines, take your pick, Im not talking about aesthetic lines.

Im taking about getting rid of the join / gap lines on the “body work” which do collect dust and dirt.

Next step, is getting rid of the gap lines between glass and body and the head lights and rear lights gap lines and gap lines on the grill etc.

With an all 3D printed car body the next step is 3 d printing cracks and dents.

Car exterior paints that change color would be cool too.

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Date: 12/12/2017 18:55:15
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1160527
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


JudgeMental said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Yes lines can have aesthetic value

They can make cars look more masculine or with using curves look more feminine the Bugatti Veyron and Chiron illustrate this aesthetic

The petrol cap lines will disappear if / when Bugatti release an all electric version of the car.

:)

they are not lines, they are called gaps.

ok, gap lines, join lines, take your pick, Im not talking about aesthetic lines.

Im taking about getting rid of the join / gap lines on the “body work” which do collect dust and dirt.

Next step, is getting rid of the gap lines between glass and body and the head lights and rear lights gap lines and gap lines on the grill etc.

With an all 3D printed car body the next step is 3 d printing cracks and dents.

Car exterior paints that change color would be cool too.

Step away from the bong…

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Date: 12/12/2017 18:56:01
From: Cymek
ID: 1160528
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Witty Rejoinder said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

JudgeMental said:

they are not lines, they are called gaps.

ok, gap lines, join lines, take your pick, Im not talking about aesthetic lines.

Im taking about getting rid of the join / gap lines on the “body work” which do collect dust and dirt.

Next step, is getting rid of the gap lines between glass and body and the head lights and rear lights gap lines and gap lines on the grill etc.

With an all 3D printed car body the next step is 3 d printing cracks and dents.

Car exterior paints that change color would be cool too.

Step away from the bong…

You could 3d print a bong

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Date: 12/12/2017 18:56:57
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160529
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Witty Rejoinder said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

JudgeMental said:

they are not lines, they are called gaps.

ok, gap lines, join lines, take your pick, Im not talking about aesthetic lines.

Im taking about getting rid of the join / gap lines on the “body work” which do collect dust and dirt.

Next step, is getting rid of the gap lines between glass and body and the head lights and rear lights gap lines and gap lines on the grill etc.

With an all 3D printed car body the next step is 3 d printing cracks and dents.

Car exterior paints that change color would be cool too.

Step away from the bong…

Cypress Hill – Hits From The Bong

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Date: 12/12/2017 18:58:00
From: Cymek
ID: 1160530
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

ok, gap lines, join lines, take your pick, Im not talking about aesthetic lines.

Im taking about getting rid of the join / gap lines on the “body work” which do collect dust and dirt.

Next step, is getting rid of the gap lines between glass and body and the head lights and rear lights gap lines and gap lines on the grill etc.

With an all 3D printed car body the next step is 3 d printing cracks and dents.

Car exterior paints that change color would be cool too.

Step away from the bong…

Cypress Hill – Hits From The Bong

That’s an old song now

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Date: 12/12/2017 18:58:13
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160531
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Cymek said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

ok, gap lines, join lines, take your pick, Im not talking about aesthetic lines.

Im taking about getting rid of the join / gap lines on the “body work” which do collect dust and dirt.

Next step, is getting rid of the gap lines between glass and body and the head lights and rear lights gap lines and gap lines on the grill etc.

With an all 3D printed car body the next step is 3 d printing cracks and dents.

Car exterior paints that change color would be cool too.

Step away from the bong…

You could 3d print a bong

Takes notes.

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Date: 12/12/2017 19:08:28
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160532
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Cymek said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Step away from the bong…

Cypress Hill – Hits From The Bong

That’s an old song now

Yes its from 1993

This one is more recent 2004

Ludacris – Blueberry Yum Yum

Probably more even more recent ones in this list.

420 Songs über Weed

3 D printing weed like Blueberry Yum Yum would be awesome.

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Date: 12/12/2017 19:14:52
From: Michael V
ID: 1160533
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


JudgeMental said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Yes lines can have aesthetic value

They can make cars look more masculine or with using curves look more feminine the Bugatti Veyron and Chiron illustrate this aesthetic

!http://www.gaddidekho.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Bugatti-Veyron-Cabrio-Rear1.jpg

!https://preview.netcarshow.com/Bugatti-Chiron-2017-1600-36.jpg

The petrol cap lines will disappear if / when Bugatti release an all electric version of the car.

:)

they are not lines, they are called gaps.

ok, gap lines, join lines, take your pick, Im not talking about aesthetic lines.

Im taking about getting rid of the join / gap lines on the “body work” which do collect dust and dirt.

Next step, is getting rid of the gap lines between glass and body and the head lights and rear lights gap lines and gap lines on the grill etc.

With an all 3D printed car body the next step is 3 d printing cracks and dents.

Car exterior paints that change color would be cool too.

Car exterior paints that change color would be cool too.

Harlequin paints are so noughties.

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Date: 12/12/2017 19:22:40
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160534
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Cypress Hill – Hits From The Bong

That’s an old song now

Yes its from 1993

This one is more recent 2004

Ludacris – Blueberry Yum Yum

Probably more even more recent ones in this list.

420 Songs über Weed

3 D printing weed like Blueberry Yum Yum would be awesome.

I’m going to have to listen to all those 420 songs now.

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Date: 12/12/2017 19:28:15
From: Michael V
ID: 1160535
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Like this:

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Date: 12/12/2017 19:39:28
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160537
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Michael V said:


Like this:


Not quite, I mean changing color completely like going from all red to all blue or to all black or to white or to some other color or even duo tone.

A future paint that could change to any color by changing the voltage or some other trick.

Harlequin paints are cool too, I have a a cool color on my Ford BA its called Monsoon Blue, from far away the dark blue looks almost black but when your close the colors look light blue in direct sunlight.

Not sure how to describe it properly, scratches head , its not harlequin, its a two tone metallic variation of it I think.

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Date: 12/12/2017 19:49:06
From: Speedy
ID: 1160544
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Not quite, I mean changing color completely like going from all red to all blue or to all black or to white or to some other color or even duo tone.

Could be a long-term nuisance.

https://www.service.nsw.gov.au/transaction/change-details-your-vehicle

If you need to make a change to your vehicle’s details, such as colour, fittings etc, please visit a service centre. The changes may need to be verified by an Authorised Examiner, or other Roads and Maritime Services official, before the changes are recorded.

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Date: 12/12/2017 19:54:09
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160547
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Michael V said:

Like this:


Not quite, I mean changing color completely like going from all red to all blue or to all black or to white or to some other color or even duo tone.

A future paint that could change to any color by changing the voltage or some other trick.

Harlequin paints are cool too, I have a a cool color on my Ford BA its called Monsoon Blue, from far away the dark blue looks almost black but when your close the colors look light blue in direct sunlight.

Not sure how to describe it properly, scratches head , its not harlequin, its a two tone metallic variation of it I think.

I dn’t think you understand the meaning of “two tone”…

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Date: 12/12/2017 19:54:55
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160549
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Speedy said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Not quite, I mean changing color completely like going from all red to all blue or to all black or to white or to some other color or even duo tone.

Could be a long-term nuisance.

https://www.service.nsw.gov.au/transaction/change-details-your-vehicle

If you need to make a change to your vehicle’s details, such as colour, fittings etc, please visit a service centre. The changes may need to be verified by an Authorised Examiner, or other Roads and Maritime Services official, before the changes are recorded.

Well I get a ticket from RTA Ill show up in its original color

When I drive away from the RTA Ill change it while in transit.

Its bit hard for them to jump up and down when the color change ability is actually built into the car itself as an aesthetic feature.

Which could quickly become a safety feature if the car thinks its in danger it can change the exterior color from black to all luminescent bright white.

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Date: 12/12/2017 19:58:00
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160551
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Stumpy_seahorse said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Michael V said:

Like this:


Not quite, I mean changing color completely like going from all red to all blue or to all black or to white or to some other color or even duo tone.

A future paint that could change to any color by changing the voltage or some other trick.

Harlequin paints are cool too, I have a a cool color on my Ford BA its called Monsoon Blue, from far away the dark blue looks almost black but when your close the colors look light blue in direct sunlight.

Not sure how to describe it properly, scratches head , its not harlequin, its a two tone metallic variation of it I think.

I dn’t think you understand the meaning of “two tone”…

Yes I do

two duo tone examples

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Date: 12/12/2017 19:58:45
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160552
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Stumpy_seahorse said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Not quite, I mean changing color completely like going from all red to all blue or to all black or to white or to some other color or even duo tone.

A future paint that could change to any color by changing the voltage or some other trick.

Harlequin paints are cool too, I have a a cool color on my Ford BA its called Monsoon Blue, from far away the dark blue looks almost black but when your close the colors look light blue in direct sunlight.

Not sure how to describe it properly, scratches head , its not harlequin, its a two tone metallic variation of it I think.

I dn’t think you understand the meaning of “two tone”…

Yes I do

two duo tone examples

and your ford is like that how?

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:03:07
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160554
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Stumpy_seahorse said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Not quite, I mean changing color completely like going from all red to all blue or to all black or to white or to some other color or even duo tone.

A future paint that could change to any color by changing the voltage or some other trick.

Harlequin paints are cool too, I have a a cool color on my Ford BA its called Monsoon Blue, from far away the dark blue looks almost black but when your close the colors look light blue in direct sunlight.

Not sure how to describe it properly, scratches head , its not harlequin, its a two tone metallic variation of it I think.

I dn’t think you understand the meaning of “two tone”…

Yes I do

two duo tone examples

With Harliqin paints, the colors can fade into one another depending on how the angle of the sunlight falls onto it.

https://www.attitudecustompainting.com/page/color-shift-color-chart

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:05:53
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160555
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Stumpy_seahorse said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

I dn’t think you understand the meaning of “two tone”…

Yes I do

two duo tone examples

and your ford is like that how?

No my ford is not quite duo tone

and its quite Harlequin paint but similar

Its a tone tone metallic variation where the colors change from light blue to dark blue depending on lighting conditions

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:11:19
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160557
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

I dn’t think you understand the meaning of “two tone”…

Yes I do

two duo tone examples

With Harliqin paints, the colors can fade into one another depending on how the angle of the sunlight falls onto it.

https://www.attitudecustompainting.com/page/color-shift-color-chart

I know, and i can sell you a 4 litre tin for $2500

still isn’t two-tone…

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:12:25
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160559
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Stumpy_seahorse said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Yes I do

two duo tone examples

and your ford is like that how?

No my ford is not quite duo tone

and its quite Harlequin paint but similar

Its a tone tone metallic variation where the colors change from light blue to dark blue depending on lighting conditions

it is nowhere near harlequin..

it is mettalic, plain and simple mettalic

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:19:13
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160565
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Here is a orange Bugatti, harlequin or metallic?

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:20:41
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160568
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Here is a orange Bugatti, harlequin or metallic?


Metallic

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:23:37
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160569
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

ok, mine is metallic.

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:24:57
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160570
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


ok, mine is metallic.

well duh

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:25:19
From: party_pants
ID: 1160571
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Here is a orange Bugatti, harlequin or metallic?

Ugly (ken).

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:26:51
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1160572
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

mines blue metallic. fades something shocking. still, goes well.

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:29:42
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160573
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Stumpy_seahorse said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

ok, mine is metallic.

well duh

Thanks, next time Im at the paint shop Ill ask if they do half metallic half Harlequin.

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:30:04
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160574
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

JudgeMental said:


mines blue metallic. fades something shocking. still, goes well.

Is it the colour fading? or is it the clear coat going opaque?

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:30:27
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160575
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Tau.Neutrino said:


Stumpy_seahorse said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

ok, mine is metallic.

well duh

Thanks, next time Im at the paint shop Ill ask if they do half metallic half Harlequin.

roflmao

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:30:41
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160576
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Here is a orange Bugatti, harlequin or metallic?

Ugly (ken).

Yeah, not keen on that color myself.

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:32:04
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1160577
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Stumpy_seahorse said:


JudgeMental said:

mines blue metallic. fades something shocking. still, goes well.

Is it the colour fading? or is it the clear coat going opaque?

clear coat. don’t have any shade to park it under.

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:33:42
From: sibeen
ID: 1160578
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

JudgeMental said:


Stumpy_seahorse said:

JudgeMental said:

mines blue metallic. fades something shocking. still, goes well.

Is it the colour fading? or is it the clear coat going opaque?

clear coat. don’t have any shade to park it under.

Should have used Dulux.

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:34:56
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160579
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

JudgeMental said:


Stumpy_seahorse said:

JudgeMental said:

mines blue metallic. fades something shocking. still, goes well.

Is it the colour fading? or is it the clear coat going opaque?

clear coat. don’t have any shade to park it under.

yeah, it’s a pain.
Problem is they ut the minimum amount of coats on to send it on the road

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:35:07
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1160580
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

sibeen said:


JudgeMental said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

Is it the colour fading? or is it the clear coat going opaque?

clear coat. don’t have any shade to park it under.

Should have used Dulux.

i trusted british paints…

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:36:00
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160581
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

sibeen said:


JudgeMental said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

Is it the colour fading? or is it the clear coat going opaque?

clear coat. don’t have any shade to park it under.

Should have used Dulux.

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:36:51
From: sibeen
ID: 1160582
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

JudgeMental said:


sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

clear coat. don’t have any shade to park it under.

Should have used Dulux.

i trusted british paints…

If you slap it on pretty thick with the brush you probably wont have this problem.

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:38:17
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160583
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Stumpy_seahorse said:


sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

clear coat. don’t have any shade to park it under.

Should have used Dulux.


I still trust Dulux.

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:38:27
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1160584
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

sibeen said:


JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

Should have used Dulux.

i trusted british paints…

If you slap it on pretty thick with the brush you probably wont have this problem.

i’m no slapper!

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:38:52
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1160585
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

sibeen said:


JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

Should have used Dulux.

i trusted british paints…

If you slap it on pretty thick with the brush you probably wont have this problem.

TWSS

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Date: 12/12/2017 20:39:32
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1160586
Subject: re: Volumetric 3D Laser Printing

Cop: “What color was the car?” – Me: “Yes.”

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