This clip is from the feature documentary “Ride with Larry.” With his Parkinson’s symptoms worsening and options for new medications unavailable, retired police captain Larry S. is getting tested for his medical marijuana card.
Medical Marijuana and Parkinson’s Part 1 of 3
Michael J Fox , Cannabis and Parkinsons
Cannabis might not work with some parkinsons sufferers, but for the parkinsons sufferers where it does work , it must be frustrating for all the parkinsons sufferers around the world who cannot get
access to it for treatment, some getting angry about having no access to it, which in my view in medically unethical, their rights are being violated.
Cannibas helps with
Parkisons disease
Multiple sclerosis
Epilepsy and other disorders.
All these diseases create muscluar disorders of some kind but in different ways, yet the cannabis helps with treatment. Why?
Also glaucoma. Which is not muscular.
buffy said:
Also glaucoma. Which is not muscular.
And PTSD, that’s not muscular well.
So its helping with muscular disorders and non muscular disorders.
And that’s interesting as well which raises another question why that is.
My experiment continues, so far the ones in pots are hugely outperforming the ones in the ground. I suspect because the pot gets warm and warm speeds up chemical reactions, or another or complimentary reason might be they sit in trays of water so they are better hydrated.
AwesomeO said:
My experiment continues, so far the ones in pots are hugely outperforming the ones in the ground. I suspect because the pot gets warm and warm speeds up chemical reactions, or another or complimentary reason might be they sit in trays of water so they are better hydrated.
hmm
I wonder if compost heat could do similar in the ground where you lay the compost around and under the plants in a row fashion
you would have to take temperature and humidly measurements moisture and and ph measurements etc on both pot plants and soil plants
It would be an interesting experiment.
Tau.Neutrino said:
AwesomeO said:
My experiment continues, so far the ones in pots are hugely outperforming the ones in the ground. I suspect because the pot gets warm and warm speeds up chemical reactions, or another or complimentary reason might be they sit in trays of water so they are better hydrated.
hmm
I wonder if compost heat could do similar in the ground where you lay the compost around and under the plants in a row fashion
you would have to take temperature and humidly measurements moisture and and ph measurements etc on both pot plants and soil plants
It would be an interesting experiment.
Which soil are you using in the pots?
Bought stuff or soil from the same garden?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
AwesomeO said:
My experiment continues, so far the ones in pots are hugely outperforming the ones in the ground. I suspect because the pot gets warm and warm speeds up chemical reactions, or another or complimentary reason might be they sit in trays of water so they are better hydrated.
hmm
I wonder if compost heat could do similar in the ground where you lay the compost around and under the plants in a row fashion
you would have to take temperature and humidly measurements moisture and and ph measurements etc on both pot plants and soil plants
It would be an interesting experiment.
Which soil are you using in the pots?
Bought stuff or soil from the same garden?
A mix, stuff from the garden lightened up with a potting mix. Same stuff as the other ones cept they have been transferred from the small pots they were in to the garden, which is another variable the ones in the big pots have stayed there and not been transferred.
AwesomeO said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:hmm
I wonder if compost heat could do similar in the ground where you lay the compost around and under the plants in a row fashion
you would have to take temperature and humidly measurements moisture and and ph measurements etc on both pot plants and soil plants
It would be an interesting experiment.
Which soil are you using in the pots?
Bought stuff or soil from the same garden?
A mix, stuff from the garden lightened up with a potting mix. Same stuff as the other ones cept they have been transferred from the small pots they were in to the garden, which is another variable the ones in the big pots have stayed there and not been transferred.
Id first do a combination of using potting mix and soils from the garden in both pots and in garden.
For the plants in the garden I’d use these Biodegradable Plant Pots.
https://www.spottygreenfrog.co.uk/Biodegradable-Plant-Pots/p-204-105-365-1127/
Take details notes before continuing to see if its worth using underground compost as a heat source.
Hmm…due for another trip to the dispensary this week. Just some cannabis chocolate I have half to one whole square each day. Seems to do the trick.
Tau.Neutrino said:
AwesomeO said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Which soil are you using in the pots?
Bought stuff or soil from the same garden?
A mix, stuff from the garden lightened up with a potting mix. Same stuff as the other ones cept they have been transferred from the small pots they were in to the garden, which is another variable the ones in the big pots have stayed there and not been transferred.
Id first do a combination of using potting mix and soils from the garden in both pots and in garden.
For the plants in the garden I’d use these Biodegradable Plant Pots.
https://www.spottygreenfrog.co.uk/Biodegradable-Plant-Pots/p-204-105-365-1127/
Take details notes before continuing to see if its worth using underground compost as a heat source.
Would too much heat might damage the plants on the garden?
I would start a series of underground compost heaps of different sizes to get different temperature ranges
Also how far under under the pot plants would the compost heap need to be ?
I should have packed up and moved to the states when the pot stuff started happening. Some Aus dude did it and is making a fortune (a legit fortune…).
poikilotherm said:
I should have packed up and moved to the states when the pot stuff started happening. Some Aus dude did it and is making a fortune (a legit fortune…).
Well you still could start in States that have just started or get in a position where the next State will legalize it.
poikilotherm said:
I should have packed up and moved to the states when the pot stuff started happening. Some Aus dude did it and is making a fortune (a legit fortune…).
Some professionalism here in Las Cruces could be a good thing.
Fill you boots Tau, I was just figuring out if it was better to leave them in pots in the greenhouse or plant in the garden. Greenhouse heat problems have been sorted, this is more for next year.
kii said:
poikilotherm said:
I should have packed up and moved to the states when the pot stuff started happening. Some Aus dude did it and is making a fortune (a legit fortune…).
Some professionalism here in Las Cruces could be a good thing.
Something that needs to be addressed
Consistence of product and product handling are some issues.
AwesomeO said:
Fill you boots Tau, I was just figuring out if it was better to leave them in pots in the greenhouse or plant in the garden. Greenhouse heat problems have been sorted, this is more for next year.
Id have to buy some seeds and wait four months.
You are doing it now.
Tau.Neutrino said:
poikilotherm said:
I should have packed up and moved to the states when the pot stuff started happening. Some Aus dude did it and is making a fortune (a legit fortune…).
Well you still could start in States that have just started or get in a position where the next State will legalize it.
As a pharmacist could could study the process, growing to selling and then sell that knowledge as a package.
Tau.Neutrino said:
kii said:
poikilotherm said:
I should have packed up and moved to the states when the pot stuff started happening. Some Aus dude did it and is making a fortune (a legit fortune…).
Some professionalism here in Las Cruces could be a good thing.
Something that needs to be addressed
Consistence of product and product handling are some issues.
The product is fine, AFAIK. And the staff dispensing it all seem to be fine, mostly are great at answering questions and making recommendations.. They have a system of who goes next which always seems to be run by a staff member who is so fucking off his head (it’s always males) that it makes me feel stoned like it’s 1974 if I watch him.
kii said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
kii said:Some professionalism here in Las Cruces could be a good thing.
Something that needs to be addressed
Consistence of product and product handling are some issues.
The product is fine, AFAIK. And the staff dispensing it all seem to be fine, mostly are great at answering questions and making recommendations.. They have a system of who goes next which always seems to be run by a staff member who is so fucking off his head (it’s always males) that it makes me feel stoned like it’s 1974 if I watch him.
Someone who is running a business and who is always off his face is not being professional.
He needs to tidy up his act a bit.
Tau.Neutrino said:
kii said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Something that needs to be addressed
Consistence of product and product handling are some issues.
The product is fine, AFAIK. And the staff dispensing it all seem to be fine, mostly are great at answering questions and making recommendations.. They have a system of who goes next which always seems to be run by a staff member who is so fucking off his head (it’s always males) that it makes me feel stoned like it’s 1974 if I watch him.
Someone who is running a business and who is always off his face is not being professional.
He needs to tidy up his act a bit.
The guys at the door are not running the business. They check IDs and state-issued medical cannabis cards. Keep a list of who is next etc.
I could sign up with the dispensaries in Albuquerque and pay $25 per delivery of product. It could be worth it, because I could then avoid dealing with humans.
Awesome…how recently was the transplanting? There is a thing called transplant setback. The ones in the ground may well catch up with the others after they get over their little outing.
Information here for you.
https://www.growingformarket.com/articles/Starting-Transplants
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
poikilotherm said:
I should have packed up and moved to the states when the pot stuff started happening. Some Aus dude did it and is making a fortune (a legit fortune…).
Well you still could start in States that have just started or get in a position where the next State will legalize it.
As a pharmacist could could study the process, growing to selling and then sell that knowledge as a package.
There would be pharmaceutical opportunities starting here in Australia with medical cannabis legalization.
buffy said:
Awesome…how recently was the transplanting? There is a thing called transplant setback. The ones in the ground may well catch up with the others after they get over their little outing.
About three weeks ago, there was a bit of that, they do seem happier now and growing but not caught up to the pot ones. Seems to me the ones in the big pots were happier from the start, maybe the temperature and hydration changes were not so extreme in the bigger pots.
AwesomeO said:
buffy said:Awesome…how recently was the transplanting? There is a thing called transplant setback. The ones in the ground may well catch up with the others after they get over their little outing.
About three weeks ago, there was a bit of that, they do seem happier now and growing but not caught up to the pot ones. Seems to me the ones in the big pots were happier from the start, maybe the temperature and hydration changes were not so extreme in the bigger pots.
Seems like that.
One of the local ‘business identities’ here on the central coast has bought into a hydroponic cucumber growing farm. The word going around the community is that he is just waiting for the medical marijuana business to take off here, and he’s going to use it for that instead.
Looking into it, I see that it’s not going to be as simple as bunging in a bunch of plants and selling the product. This is worth a read-
Access to medicinal cannabis products
ruby said:
One of the local ‘business identities’ here on the central coast has bought into a hydroponic cucumber growing farm. The word going around the community is that he is just waiting for the medical marijuana business to take off here, and he’s going to use it for that instead.Looking into it, I see that it’s not going to be as simple as bunging in a bunch of plants and selling the product. This is worth a read-
Access to medicinal cannabis products
He’s too late anyway. It is already sewn up.
AwesomeO said:
Fill you boots Tau, I was just figuring out if it was better to leave them in pots in the greenhouse or plant in the garden. Greenhouse heat problems have been sorted, this is more for next year.
Still better in the ground. pots way too tricky.
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:
Fill you boots Tau, I was just figuring out if it was better to leave them in pots in the greenhouse or plant in the garden. Greenhouse heat problems have been sorted, this is more for next year.
Still better in the ground. pots way too tricky.
They don’t have too much of a rootball, and they are decent sized pots, yet to see if sail effect will be an issue. No matter, it’s an experiment for next year to decide which is the best way to go.
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:
Fill you boots Tau, I was just figuring out if it was better to leave them in pots in the greenhouse or plant in the garden. Greenhouse heat problems have been sorted, this is more for next year.
Still better in the ground. pots way too tricky.
They don’t have too much of a rootball, and they are decent sized pots, yet to see if sail effect will be an issue. No matter, it’s an experiment for next year to decide which is the best way to go.
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:Still better in the ground. pots way too tricky.
They don’t have too much of a rootball, and they are decent sized pots, yet to see if sail effect will be an issue. No matter, it’s an experiment for next year to decide which is the best way to go.
By decent sized, what size? They may not look to have too much of a rootball but in the ground their roots wander quite a long way.
Not big, you can pull out an over six foot bushy one with six inch heads with one hand and not much effort.
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:They don’t have too much of a rootball, and they are decent sized pots, yet to see if sail effect will be an issue. No matter, it’s an experiment for next year to decide which is the best way to go.
By decent sized, what size? They may not look to have too much of a rootball but in the ground their roots wander quite a long way.
Not big, you can pull out an over six foot bushy one with six inch heads with one hand and not much effort.
Ah but in the ground and this plant would yield 7 or 8 elbows.
buffy said:
Also glaucoma. Which is not muscular.
was only reading about this the other day. no real good as the effect only lasts a few hours, meaning you’d have to take it more often. there were a couple of other problems which i can’t remember just now.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1772142/
https://www.aao.org/eye-health/tips-prevention/medical-marijuana-glaucoma-treament
glaucoma.
Plants in pots receive more attention and better water management than those planted in the ground, so tend to grow faster and do better in the short term, which would be fine for the type of plants you are growing.
You will get even better results if you did not use the soil from the garden, but only a good potting mix. The reason being is the mix remain more open, permitting better root development. Also garden soils will compact, thereby reducing drainage and root development, this will get progressively worse over time and eventually reduce the health of your plant.
PermeateFree said:
Plants in pots receive more attention and better water management than those planted in the ground, so tend to grow faster and do better in the short term, which would be fine for the type of plants you are growing.You will get even better results if you did not use the soil from the garden, but only a good potting mix. The reason being is the mix remain more open, permitting better root development. Also garden soils will compact, thereby reducing drainage and root development, this will get progressively worse over time and eventually reduce the health of your plant.
Pots quickly become too small a root area and the nutrients quickly leach away. Plants such as the ones in question really do go backwards very quickly after they have reached a certain height. This has a deleterous effect on the desired yield quality and quantity.
JudgeMental said:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1772142/https://www.aao.org/eye-health/tips-prevention/medical-marijuana-glaucoma-treament
glaucoma.
They have been faffing about with marijuana for glaucoma for many years now. As evidenced by your first paper, which is from 2004. I expect at some point they will work out how to make it work. I’d have to search to find the latest.
PermeateFree said:
Plants in pots receive more attention and better water management than those planted in the ground, so tend to grow faster and do better in the short term, which would be fine for the type of plants you are growing.You will get even better results if you did not use the soil from the garden, but only a good potting mix. The reason being is the mix remain more open, permitting better root development. Also garden soils will compact, thereby reducing drainage and root development, this will get progressively worse over time and eventually reduce the health of your plant.
I think Awesome is in goldfields Victoria…so fairly sandy garden soil.
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1772142/https://www.aao.org/eye-health/tips-prevention/medical-marijuana-glaucoma-treament
glaucoma.
They have been faffing about with marijuana for glaucoma for many years now. As evidenced by your first paper, which is from 2004. I expect at some point they will work out how to make it work. I’d have to search to find the latest.
At best it seems that glaucoma sufferers do get relief but need to keep using the drug every day to keep that level of relief. So it is only a temporary fix and is unlikely to inhibit the onset of glaucoma if it was going to happen anyway.
buffy said:
PermeateFree said:
Plants in pots receive more attention and better water management than those planted in the ground, so tend to grow faster and do better in the short term, which would be fine for the type of plants you are growing.You will get even better results if you did not use the soil from the garden, but only a good potting mix. The reason being is the mix remain more open, permitting better root development. Also garden soils will compact, thereby reducing drainage and root development, this will get progressively worse over time and eventually reduce the health of your plant.
I think Awesome is in goldfields Victoria…so fairly sandy garden soil.
Makes little difference, the soil will still compact in a pot due to the extra watering required. There are much better mediums for plants in pots. Not saying they will not survive, but will do much better in a potting mix and with Marijuana you would think this is what is required.
PermeateFree said:
buffy said:
PermeateFree said:
Plants in pots receive more attention and better water management than those planted in the ground, so tend to grow faster and do better in the short term, which would be fine for the type of plants you are growing.You will get even better results if you did not use the soil from the garden, but only a good potting mix. The reason being is the mix remain more open, permitting better root development. Also garden soils will compact, thereby reducing drainage and root development, this will get progressively worse over time and eventually reduce the health of your plant.
I think Awesome is in goldfields Victoria…so fairly sandy garden soil.
Makes little difference, the soil will still compact in a pot due to the extra watering required. There are much better mediums for plants in pots. Not saying they will not survive, but will do much better in a potting mix and with Marijuana you would think this is what is required.
If you sampled the quality of some heads grown in the red sands of much of Australia, with any type of potting mix you’d prefer, then you will realise the main reason people go and plant it in the bush.
Meh, pots so far are bigger than the ones in the ground. Time will tell.
AwesomeO said:
Meh, pots so far are bigger than the ones in the ground. Time will tell.
Indeed so. We eagerly await your results.
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:
Meh, pots so far are bigger than the ones in the ground. Time will tell.
Indeed so. We eagerly await your results.
From what I’ve read it seems that you are basically almost hydroponically growing the ones in pots. Take away the saucers underneath them and see what happens on the first warm day.
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
buffy said:I think Awesome is in goldfields Victoria…so fairly sandy garden soil.
Makes little difference, the soil will still compact in a pot due to the extra watering required. There are much better mediums for plants in pots. Not saying they will not survive, but will do much better in a potting mix and with Marijuana you would think this is what is required.
If you sampled the quality of some heads grown in the red sands of much of Australia, with any type of potting mix you’d prefer, then you will realise the main reason people go and plant it in the bush.
I am referring to the plant’s growth and vigor. Trace elements can be added to provide what the red sands might do. But planting into the red sands in the bush is very different from planting into a pot with red sand.
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:Makes little difference, the soil will still compact in a pot due to the extra watering required. There are much better mediums for plants in pots. Not saying they will not survive, but will do much better in a potting mix and with Marijuana you would think this is what is required.
If you sampled the quality of some heads grown in the red sands of much of Australia, with any type of potting mix you’d prefer, then you will realise the main reason people go and plant it in the bush.
I am referring to the plant’s growth and vigor. Trace elements can be added to provide what the red sands might do. But planting into the red sands in the bush is very different from planting into a pot with red sand.
Oh yes. Very different. However, I’d rather have more red sand in my pot than shitty potting mix that is basically useless without some sandy loam added.
This was the latest I found. And I can’t get into the paper itself. However, it looks like the stuff works for glaucoma, but you might not want its other effects.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26840343
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:If you sampled the quality of some heads grown in the red sands of much of Australia, with any type of potting mix you’d prefer, then you will realise the main reason people go and plant it in the bush.
I am referring to the plant’s growth and vigor. Trace elements can be added to provide what the red sands might do. But planting into the red sands in the bush is very different from planting into a pot with red sand.
Oh yes. Very different. However, I’d rather have more red sand in my pot than shitty potting mix that is basically useless without some sandy loam added.
Plants have been grown in soil-less mixes for decades now, in fact all professionally nursery grown stock is in soil-less mixes. And why do they do it? Because they get far better results. The nursery business is very sophisticated these days and much research has gone into these things.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
AwesomeO said:
Meh, pots so far are bigger than the ones in the ground. Time will tell.
Indeed so. We eagerly await your results.
From what I’ve read it seems that you are basically almost hydroponically growing the ones in pots. Take away the saucers underneath them and see what happens on the first warm day.
This was my first year with the fixed up greenhouse. To figure out the best solution for the future I decided to keep some in the greenhouse and the rest in the ground. Because the ones in the greenhouse were going to stay there I opted for the big pots, the transplanted ones were in standard 8inch pots, all of them sat in water baths. When a water bath ran dry in one and with the heat in the greenhouse I moved them all out into the garden. I lost one of the big pot ones when a wind bent it over so only four of them left.
They are scattered around so no one has outside line of sight, so far the big pots are doing better, they all get watered at the same time which is basically when the water baths in the pots run dry, in the hot weather that’s about every two days. If I get a combination of the usual hot winds plus hot sun, I reckon it would be a single day.
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:I am referring to the plant’s growth and vigor. Trace elements can be added to provide what the red sands might do. But planting into the red sands in the bush is very different from planting into a pot with red sand.
Oh yes. Very different. However, I’d rather have more red sand in my pot than shitty potting mix that is basically useless without some sandy loam added.
Plants have been grown in soil-less mixes for decades now, in fact all professionally nursery grown stock is in soil-less mixes. And why do they do it? Because they get far better results. The nursery business is very sophisticated these days and much research has gone into these things.
That’s why I don’t buy their plants. Plant them out and they turn up their toes at the first glimpse of the sun.
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Indeed so. We eagerly await your results.
From what I’ve read it seems that you are basically almost hydroponically growing the ones in pots. Take away the saucers underneath them and see what happens on the first warm day.
This was my first year with the fixed up greenhouse. To figure out the best solution for the future I decided to keep some in the greenhouse and the rest in the ground. Because the ones in the greenhouse were going to stay there I opted for the big pots, the transplanted ones were in standard 8inch pots, all of them sat in water baths. When a water bath ran dry in one and with the heat in the greenhouse I moved them all out into the garden. I lost one of the big pot ones when a wind bent it over so only four of them left.
They are scattered around so no one has outside line of sight, so far the big pots are doing better, they all get watered at the same time which is basically when the water baths in the pots run dry, in the hot weather that’s about every two days. If I get a combination of the usual hot winds plus hot sun, I reckon it would be a single day.
Yes. The size of the pot helps. A 20 litre pot is going to produce at least one elbow. One hot sunny day with a touch of wind though and you’d better be around to water them.
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:Oh yes. Very different. However, I’d rather have more red sand in my pot than shitty potting mix that is basically useless without some sandy loam added.
Plants have been grown in soil-less mixes for decades now, in fact all professionally nursery grown stock is in soil-less mixes. And why do they do it? Because they get far better results. The nursery business is very sophisticated these days and much research has gone into these things.
That’s why I don’t buy their plants. Plant them out and they turn up their toes at the first glimpse of the sun.
If that were the case then there would be no commercial retail nurseries. Alternatively, stop buying your plants from a supermarket where the are kept in an artificial environment and need to be hardened up before planting in the sun.
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:Plants have been grown in soil-less mixes for decades now, in fact all professionally nursery grown stock is in soil-less mixes. And why do they do it? Because they get far better results. The nursery business is very sophisticated these days and much research has gone into these things.
That’s why I don’t buy their plants. Plant them out and they turn up their toes at the first glimpse of the sun.
If that were the case then there would be no commercial retail nurseries. Alternatively, stop buying your plants from a supermarket where the are kept in an artificial environment and need to be hardened up before planting in the sun.
Mostly, the commercial retail nurseries sell plants that can be chopped up with a shovel on a concrete path and will still grow. The rest of the stuff they sell, most of the customers think it is their fault that the plant died and come back to buy another one. If nurseries actually did the job properly they’d be broke in no time because the customers plants would be growing happily and they wouldn’t need to come back.
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:That’s why I don’t buy their plants. Plant them out and they turn up their toes at the first glimpse of the sun.
If that were the case then there would be no commercial retail nurseries. Alternatively, stop buying your plants from a supermarket where the are kept in an artificial environment and need to be hardened up before planting in the sun.
Mostly, the commercial retail nurseries sell plants that can be chopped up with a shovel on a concrete path and will still grow. The rest of the stuff they sell, most of the customers think it is their fault that the plant died and come back to buy another one. If nurseries actually did the job properly they’d be broke in no time because the customers plants would be growing happily and they wouldn’t need to come back.
God, you talk a lot of crap. Rb, why do you comment on things you know absolutely nothing about?
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:If that were the case then there would be no commercial retail nurseries. Alternatively, stop buying your plants from a supermarket where the are kept in an artificial environment and need to be hardened up before planting in the sun.
Mostly, the commercial retail nurseries sell plants that can be chopped up with a shovel on a concrete path and will still grow. The rest of the stuff they sell, most of the customers think it is their fault that the plant died and come back to buy another one. If nurseries actually did the job properly they’d be broke in no time because the customers plants would be growing happily and they wouldn’t need to come back.
God, you talk a lot of crap. Rb, why do you comment on things you know absolutely nothing about?
Have been in the nursery game a lot of decades. I know a lot more about it than most of the retail nurserymen you have ever talked to.
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:Mostly, the commercial retail nurseries sell plants that can be chopped up with a shovel on a concrete path and will still grow. The rest of the stuff they sell, most of the customers think it is their fault that the plant died and come back to buy another one. If nurseries actually did the job properly they’d be broke in no time because the customers plants would be growing happily and they wouldn’t need to come back.
God, you talk a lot of crap. Rb, why do you comment on things you know absolutely nothing about?
Have been in the nursery game a lot of decades. I know a lot more about it than most of the retail nurserymen you have ever talked to.
Have actually received an Australia Day award for the work I’ve done in helping others understand these basic principles.
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:Mostly, the commercial retail nurseries sell plants that can be chopped up with a shovel on a concrete path and will still grow. The rest of the stuff they sell, most of the customers think it is their fault that the plant died and come back to buy another one. If nurseries actually did the job properly they’d be broke in no time because the customers plants would be growing happily and they wouldn’t need to come back.
God, you talk a lot of crap. Rb, why do you comment on things you know absolutely nothing about?
Have been in the nursery game a lot of decades. I know a lot more about it than most of the retail nurserymen you have ever talked to.
Ah, a backyard nurseryman, they were always a pest with their homegrown advice. Know you well.
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:God, you talk a lot of crap. Rb, why do you comment on things you know absolutely nothing about?
Have been in the nursery game a lot of decades. I know a lot more about it than most of the retail nurserymen you have ever talked to.
Ah, a backyard nurseryman, they were always a pest with their homegrown advice. Know you well.
You actually know very little about me at all.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:God, you talk a lot of crap. Rb, why do you comment on things you know absolutely nothing about?
Have been in the nursery game a lot of decades. I know a lot more about it than most of the retail nurserymen you have ever talked to.
Have actually received an Australia Day award for the work I’ve done in helping others understand these basic principles.
O’really, I’m off now. I have reached my limit.
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:Have been in the nursery game a lot of decades. I know a lot more about it than most of the retail nurserymen you have ever talked to.
Ah, a backyard nurseryman, they were always a pest with their homegrown advice. Know you well.
You actually know very little about me at all.
I consider that an advantage.
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:Ah, a backyard nurseryman, they were always a pest with their homegrown advice. Know you well.
You actually know very little about me at all.
I consider that an advantage.
Well you may but it won’t help any of your arguments. I’d like to see you trot out the figures of what is grown by the methods you describe and a score of the survival rates of the above. Nurseries make their money from producing plants quickly. They don’t give a guarantee that they will survive when planted out. If they did then they’d be broke in no time flat.
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:You actually know very little about me at all.
I consider that an advantage.
Well you may but it won’t help any of your arguments. I’d like to see you trot out the figures of what is grown by the methods you describe and a score of the survival rates of the above. Nurseries make their money from producing plants quickly. They don’t give a guarantee that they will survive when planted out. If they did then they’d be broke in no time flat.
You obviously don’t go to nurseries.
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:I consider that an advantage.
Well you may but it won’t help any of your arguments. I’d like to see you trot out the figures of what is grown by the methods you describe and a score of the survival rates of the above. Nurseries make their money from producing plants quickly. They don’t give a guarantee that they will survive when planted out. If they did then they’d be broke in no time flat.
You obviously don’t go to nurseries.
Sigh.. Why do I need a retail nursery? I’ve been wholesaler for nearly fifty years. I’ve seen how many the retailers kill before they get to the customers.
Elvis_Rieu said:
No way.
Separate tents maybe.
Elvis_Rieu said:
Anyway, little of this has much to do with medical or otherwise marijuana.
I’m off to pull out a few thousand peach seedlings before dark.
roughbarked said:
Anyway, little of this has much to do with medical or otherwise marijuana.I’m off to pull out a few thousand peach seedlings before dark.
Yes. Pull out and throw away thousands of peach seedlings so that hands can fit between trees to graft them.
Hmmm, Orange chocolate chip cookies and shortbread and cannabis and coffee
Tau.Neutrino said:
Hmmm, Orange chocolate chip cookies and shortbread and cannabis and coffee
Surely that should read; Cannabis followed by scads of orange chocolate chip cookies and shortbread, washed down with coffee
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Hmmm, Orange chocolate chip cookies and shortbread and cannabis and coffeeSurely that should read; Cannabis followed by scads of orange chocolate chip cookies and shortbread, washed down with coffee
That does sound a bit better.
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:Well you may but it won’t help any of your arguments. I’d like to see you trot out the figures of what is grown by the methods you describe and a score of the survival rates of the above. Nurseries make their money from producing plants quickly. They don’t give a guarantee that they will survive when planted out. If they did then they’d be broke in no time flat.
You obviously don’t go to nurseries.
Sigh.. Why do I need a retail nursery? I’ve been wholesaler for nearly fifty years. I’ve seen how many the retailers kill before they get to the customers.
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:You obviously don’t go to nurseries.
Sigh.. Why do I need a retail nursery? I’ve been wholesaler for nearly fifty years. I’ve seen how many the retailers kill before they get to the customers.
Cat looks stoned.
A picture of a cat won’t prove anything.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cat looks stoned.
Had a cat walk in and stay once. The others in the house named it Summatra because it came in and sat down during sessions on Summatran. Stayed out of reach the rest of the time.
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:Sigh.. Why do I need a retail nursery? I’ve been wholesaler for nearly fifty years. I’ve seen how many the retailers kill before they get to the customers.
Cat looks stoned.
Yeah, it does look a bit, probably one of PermeateFree’s
roughbarked said:
A picture of a cat won’t prove anything.
You are a fantasist rb, you live in your own world of make believe.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
Cat looks stoned.
Yeah, it does look a bit, probably one of PermeateFree’s
Cats don’t last long around me.
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:
A picture of a cat won’t prove anything.
You are a fantasist rb, you live in your own world of make believe.
If you say so. I’m happy for you to believe whatever you want.
PermeateFree said:
Cats don’t last long around me.
At least we can agree on this.
Tau.Neutrino said:
What really happens:
