Date: 4/01/2018 22:34:10
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1169636
Subject: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-04/jim-molan-issues-stark-warning-over-adf-capabilities/9303810

wookiemeister’s plan

buy lots of shoulder launched SAMs

buy a decent truck mounted SAM system

build solid fuel ICBMs with conventional warheads build 50,000 of them. modern solid fuels can last many years, the missile should sit in a basic silo and dotted across the country without needing much maintenance (cots too much money). in the event of a strike 10,000 missiles are launched at preset targets, this can be dams, powerstations, water works, pipelines, refineries, bridges zone substations ( major electrical installations. you don’t need nuclear weapons to deliver a knock out blow and you don’t need to kill lots of people. you can hit military installations with fuel air bombs to kill the personnel that repair maintain the warships and aircraft being used to deliver strikes. you send wave after wave so that as soldiers venture out of their bunkers (the radar systems now wiped out – you deliver a second wave to kill the rescuers).

the secret to winning any war decisively is to go all in and go hard.

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Date: 5/01/2018 11:30:15
From: Cymek
ID: 1169731
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

I read a novel were the USA created missile ships that basically had thousands of them on each one and fired them all at once on the enemies fleet overwhelming any ability to shoot them all down.

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:07:21
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170545
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

Cymek said:


I read a novel were the USA created missile ships that basically had thousands of them on each one and fired them all at once on the enemies fleet overwhelming any ability to shoot them all down.

its part of the strategy of a nuclear arsenal

release lots of missiles at once

each missile releases hundreds of decoys in flight that fool an interceptor system

most likely the missile also evades any interceptor by not having a predictable flight path

i don’t see why anyone would care about australia not having more than 2 weeks of fuel

being vulnerable is a strategy for not getting involved in regional conflicts, after 2 weeks australia would have to sue for peace from indonesia due to any fuel blockade.

(australia hasn’t any war since malaysia when they worked under the command of the british army)

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:11:09
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170549
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-28_Sarmat

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:13:33
From: Michael V
ID: 1170550
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

No. 3.

wtf?
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Date: 7/01/2018 00:18:30
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170553
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

Michael V said:


No. 3.

wtf?
not sure what you mean
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Date: 7/01/2018 00:20:28
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170554
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

the yanks are working on a biological weapon to try and wipe out the russians genetically

(i suspect russia has already planned for this eventually)

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:21:56
From: party_pants
ID: 1170555
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

wookiemeister said:


the yanks are working on a biological weapon to try and wipe out the russians genetically

(i suspect russia has already planned for this eventually)

Doesn’t bode well for humans.

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:21:59
From: Michael V
ID: 1170556
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

wookiemeister said:


Michael V said:

No. 3.

wtf?
not sure what you mean

You put up three photos. The third one looked to be a fake. A big fake. SAD.

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:23:16
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170557
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

party_pants said:


wookiemeister said:

the yanks are working on a biological weapon to try and wipe out the russians genetically

(i suspect russia has already planned for this eventually)

Doesn’t bode well for humans.


this popped into my head a few years ago and then popped up in the russians propaganda network recently

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:23:51
From: furious
ID: 1170558
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

You’re delusional…

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:24:14
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170559
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

Michael V said:


wookiemeister said:

Michael V said:

No. 3.

wtf?
not sure what you mean

You put up three photos. The third one looked to be a fake. A big fake. SAD.


you want to see a real one ?

go to your window and look out in a few minutes

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:25:12
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170560
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo6UnKr6Bwg

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:27:32
From: party_pants
ID: 1170561
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

wookiemeister said:


party_pants said:

wookiemeister said:

the yanks are working on a biological weapon to try and wipe out the russians genetically

(i suspect russia has already planned for this eventually)

Doesn’t bode well for humans.


this popped into my head a few years ago and then popped up in the russians propaganda network recently

For it to work, either the Russians or Americans must be not human.

You should probably stop writing for RT and get a real job.

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:27:40
From: Michael V
ID: 1170562
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

wookiemeister said:


the yanks are working on a biological weapon to try and wipe out the russians genetically

(i suspect russia has already planned for this eventually)

Ummm. How could the known science have sufficient room for “a biological weapon to” try and “wipe out the russians genetically”?

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:29:08
From: furious
ID: 1170563
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

Three words:

Vocal cord parasites…

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:29:21
From: Michael V
ID: 1170564
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

wookiemeister said:


Michael V said:

wookiemeister said:

not sure what you mean

You put up three photos. The third one looked to be a fake. A big fake. SAD.


you want to see a real one ?

go to your window and look out in a few minutes

wtf?

I think you should check your schedule for pill-taking.

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:34:29
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170565
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

furious said:

  • the yanks are working on a biological weapon to try and wipe out the russians genetically

You’re delusional…


my spidey senses are never wrong

i remember at about 2am one night we were on exercise and had been walking for hours

they stopped us single file on a road and i crawled into the shadows away from the road lit up by moonlight (the others took the cue from me and crawled off away from the road too)

we then continued

i became suspicious, put my rifle onto full auto (i always put the rifle on full auto when suspicious) and waited

about 200m off the road a few rounds started popping off with a flash, with glee i raised the muzzle clicking the rifle off safe and released a short volley of rounds whilst racing off the road towards the attacker, releasing rounds towards them in longer volleys. threw the rucksack off my back onto the ground where i got behind it and used it to stabilise it and continued firing.

i looked around everyone was still on the road!!!!, more rounds from the lone sniper went off and then they lumbered off the road.

the colour sargeant ran over to me and laid down

so the fire fight began

i hear a grenade going off near the enemy position

“fire to the left , they are taking the position!!!” i bellowed out (if you have 50 men shooting at the enemy as your own troops take the position you will kill them in a hail of bullets)

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:36:38
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170566
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

Michael V said:


wookiemeister said:

the yanks are working on a biological weapon to try and wipe out the russians genetically

(i suspect russia has already planned for this eventually)

Ummm. How could the known science have sufficient room for “a biological weapon to” try and “wipe out the russians genetically”?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_bioweapon

they are building genetic weapons right now (if not perfected it – most likely on people they may have kidnapped)

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:37:18
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170567
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

Michael V said:


wookiemeister said:

Michael V said:

You put up three photos. The third one looked to be a fake. A big fake. SAD.


you want to see a real one ?

go to your window and look out in a few minutes

wtf?

I think you should check your schedule for pill-taking.


i’m joking

people take me too seriously

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:38:54
From: party_pants
ID: 1170568
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

wookiemeister said:


furious said:
  • the yanks are working on a biological weapon to try and wipe out the russians genetically

You’re delusional…


my spidey senses are never wrong

i remember at about 2am one night we were on exercise and had been walking for hours

they stopped us single file on a road and i crawled into the shadows away from the road lit up by moonlight (the others took the cue from me and crawled off away from the road too)

we then continued

i became suspicious, put my rifle onto full auto (

never go full auto.

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:44:03
From: Michael V
ID: 1170569
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

wookiemeister said:


Michael V said:

wookiemeister said:

the yanks are working on a biological weapon to try and wipe out the russians genetically

(i suspect russia has already planned for this eventually)

Ummm. How could the known science have sufficient room for “a biological weapon to” try and “wipe out the russians genetically”?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_bioweapon

they are building genetic weapons right now (if not perfected it – most likely on people they may have kidnapped)

What a load of old codswallop. Note that in that Wikipedia page that there were the use of many “arse-covering” words.. “Theoretical”, followed by “Robert Heinlein”, followed by various newspaper references. Oh, fantastic. A science-fiction writer and newspaper columnists on a bored day backing him up . Not much science in that…

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:46:21
From: Michael V
ID: 1170570
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

wookiemeister said:


Michael V said:

wookiemeister said:

you want to see a real one ?

go to your window and look out in a few minutes

wtf?

I think you should check your schedule for pill-taking.


i’m joking

people take me too seriously

Then use the wink emoticon, so everybody gets it.

eg:

;)

(I didn’t get it, sorry. I do now.)

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:51:03
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170571
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

another time i was messed around

we had been walking around norfolk with people that couldn’t be bothered to take enough water, food or ammunition with them on exercise (or they had never learnt something anything about conserving ammunition)

everyone was told to sit down to eat whilst i was told to stand guard

i was finally relieved and sat down taking out minimal things to create a meal

i was suspicious the enemy was about to attack – no point telling anyone it would only make them angry

sure enough before i could get the water on the boil

everyone was shooting through the smoke, yelling out in the fog of war – me? i was carefully putting all my shit away because i knew what was coming – afterwards i was going to escort the prisoners to interrogation (a waste of time )

i snapped the last clip onto my rucksack adjusted my webbing and threw my rucksack on

wookiemeister!! prisner detail now!

i had a casual chat with one of the prisoners and discovered how far they had walked and also discovered he had a kinife secreted about him they hadn’t bothered to check him for – i figured i’d let this one be my ace up my sleeve when the NCOs would surely attack me later on.

i guarded the other prisoner (face to the wall in the corner of the room) whilst the other one with the knife was taken inside for interrogation.

i casually ate a museli bar as i stood watching the fellow in the corner.

the sergeant came flying out and complained that i could be overwhelmed by the fellow in the corner because i was eating – right.

i played my ace

he’s got his back to me in the furthest part of the room

i’m armed, i’d need only drop my food and blast him

oh yes – have you bothered checking your prisoner? because he’s carrying a knife

silence, he spins around and re enters the room

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:51:33
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170572
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

Michael V said:


wookiemeister said:

Michael V said:

Ummm. How could the known science have sufficient room for “a biological weapon to” try and “wipe out the russians genetically”?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_bioweapon

they are building genetic weapons right now (if not perfected it – most likely on people they may have kidnapped)

What a load of old codswallop. Note that in that Wikipedia page that there were the use of many “arse-covering” words.. “Theoretical”, followed by “Robert Heinlein”, followed by various newspaper references. Oh, fantastic. A science-fiction writer and newspaper columnists on a bored day backing him up . Not much science in that…


they are building them

trust me

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:56:42
From: Michael V
ID: 1170573
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

wookiemeister said:


Michael V said:

wookiemeister said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_bioweapon

they are building genetic weapons right now (if not perfected it – most likely on people they may have kidnapped)

What a load of old codswallop. Note that in that Wikipedia page that there were the use of many “arse-covering” words.. “Theoretical”, followed by “Robert Heinlein”, followed by various newspaper references. Oh, fantastic. A science-fiction writer and newspaper columnists on a bored day backing him up . Not much science in that…


they are building them

trust me

Heh!

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:57:39
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170574
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

genetic weapons will be introduced by a flu or something like that in russia, nothing suspicious about the flu – right?

it might be given to russian tourists who might visit egypt / turkey etc where there is easy access for american intelligence agents to bring it in and also a high number of targets that will get pissed and be infected.

a genetic weapon is the ultimate magic bullet, it might be activated by a secondary flu that could be activated in war time ie the disease needs a lock to fit into to , a PART B that can only ever fit PART A

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Date: 7/01/2018 00:58:20
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170575
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

the war against russia is about eradication of the russian people

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Date: 7/01/2018 01:00:30
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170576
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n6p24_Weber.html

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Date: 7/01/2018 01:01:38
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170577
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

any state that can invest trillions into weapon development will surely have genetic weapons

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Date: 7/01/2018 01:03:40
From: Michael V
ID: 1170578
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

wookiemeister said:


any state that can invest trillions into weapon development will surely have genetic weapons
That’s quite an assertion.

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Date: 7/01/2018 01:04:17
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170579
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

party_pants said:


wookiemeister said:

furious said:
  • the yanks are working on a biological weapon to try and wipe out the russians genetically

You’re delusional…


my spidey senses are never wrong

i remember at about 2am one night we were on exercise and had been walking for hours

they stopped us single file on a road and i crawled into the shadows away from the road lit up by moonlight (the others took the cue from me and crawled off away from the road too)

we then continued

i became suspicious, put my rifle onto full auto (

never go full auto.


if you don’t use all your ammo it you only have to hand it all over again.

in any serious fire fight :

stay away from the officers – they get you killed

stay away from NCOs – they can’t conserve their ammo and will order you to hand it over (they are fucking useless in battle anyway)

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Date: 7/01/2018 01:07:03
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1170580
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

wookiemeister said:


the war against russia is about eradication of the russian people

Phew… i thought it was something serious.

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Date: 7/01/2018 01:18:09
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170581
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

i remember one time we had been been detailed to hold a village

i had been teamed up with some dopey gezer with one stripe on his arm who insisted on keeping all our spare ammo in the basement (stupid man)

the enemy started attacking – i let him do all the shooting and wandered down stairs to collect my ammunition

i returned to find him silent in the room, suspicious i stood away from the room, a grenade goes off infront of him (why the fuck would you stand infront of a grenade or even warn anyone a grenade had been thrown in?)

he returns firing then declares – i’m out of ammo!

its down in the basement – remember? – i returned

some blokes start climbing in the window and i gave them a blast but this didn’t seem to stop them (they can pretend they haven’t been shot)

i collected my NCO whilst walking out the house – back to the officers house! he shouted

we get to the house were the officer carefully explained we were all going to stay in this house

so what what you are saying sir is that with the enemy taking the town we are all going to stay in this house?

yes

hmmm

i walked out the house and ran across the road to discover a whole line of soldiers around the corner lined up to enter the houses opposite

safety off , full auto

i jumped out firing merrily at them – they would have all been killed

nothing

i put another another magazine in and jumped out again firing

the training NCO (not armed – an invisible person) looks at me blacked up, with vegetation shaking as i gave a battle cry , muzzle flash ahead of me

he looks at his charges and says – are you going to shoot him or what?)

i quickly disappeared to take the battle elsewhere

you do for it a while, mainly if you have nothing much better to do on the weekend.

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Date: 7/01/2018 01:20:29
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170582
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

The “ethnic bomb” claims have been given further credence in Foreign Report, an authoritative Jane’s publication that closely monitors security and military matters. It cites unnamed South African sources as saying that Israeli scientists, in trying to develop an “ethnic bullet” against Arabs, have made use of similar biological studies conducted by South African scientists during the Apartheid era (and later revealed in testimony before that country’s “Truth and Reconciliation Commission”). Foreign Report also says that Israelis have gained insights into the Arab genetic make-up by conducting research on “Jews of Arab origin, especially Iraqis.”

The British Medical Association has become so concerned about the lethal potential of genetically-based biological weapons that it has opened an investigation. Dr. Vivienne Nathanson, who organized the research, said: “With an ethnically targeted weapon, you could even hit groups within a population. The history of warfare, in which many conflicts have an ethnic factor, shows how dangerous this could be.”

A spokesman for Britain’s biological defense establishment confirms that such weapons are theoretically possible. “We have reached a point now where there is an obvious need for an international convention to control biological weapons,” he said.

The Anti-Defamation League lost no time denouncing the Sunday Times “ethnic bomb” report. Abraham Foxman, national director of the influential Jewish-Zionist organization, called it “irresponsible and dangerous.” The ADL official went on: “This sensational story is reminiscent of the age-old anti-Semitic blood libel myth of Jews deviously targeting non-Jews with poison.” Question: How does Foxman know that this report is not true? Do high-level Israeli officials routinely inform the ADL of the Zionist government’s top-secret military programs?

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n6p24_Weber.html

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Date: 7/01/2018 03:35:42
From: Ian
ID: 1170588
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

WTF.. Jim Molan is nearly as loopy as Wookie!
(or vice versa)

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Date: 7/01/2018 05:26:45
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170589
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

Ian said:


WTF.. Jim Molan is nearly as loopy as Wookie!
(or vice versa)

Just run with it ian

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Date: 7/01/2018 07:15:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1170594
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

Ian said:


WTF.. Jim Molan is nearly as loopy as Wookie!
(or vice versa)

Maybe he is wookie.

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Date: 7/01/2018 09:11:12
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1170609
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

I read an airport thriller by forget who, amongst other things an Arab state had gone mad and dropped a bacterial bomb on Israel, one of the unexpected consequences was as a result of maternal resistance passed down, one of the 12 tribes proved to have unexpected resistance, meanwhile previous to that being known the Arab state was nuked into prehistory.

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Date: 7/01/2018 09:16:09
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1170610
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

AwesomeO said:


I read an airport thriller by forget who, amongst other things an Arab state had gone mad and dropped a bacterial bomb on Israel, one of the unexpected consequences was as a result of maternal resistance passed down, one of the 12 tribes proved to have unexpected resistance, meanwhile previous to that being known the Arab state was nuked into prehistory.

Most Arab states are already there.

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Date: 7/01/2018 09:32:37
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1170618
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

Ian said:


WTF.. Jim Molan is nearly as loopy as Wookie!
(or vice versa)

There are legitimate grounds for concern.

The fact is that Australia does not maintain vast stocks of the various fuels and armaments that armed forces need. It has some reserves, but they’re not as large as most people might imagine.

Australia is an island, and it’s a long way from any of those we we like to think of our powerful allies. Supplies of fuels and weaponry, in any significant quantities, must come by sea. A very long way, over very wide seas. Even air routes would be easily and effectively interdicted.

Major conflict in the 21st century would be something decided in weeks, not years like WW1 and WW2. It’d be hard, fast, and brutal. There wouldn’t be any opportunity to ‘gear up’ for a war – it would be fought and decided with what you have on day 1. Modern weapons take a long time to build – the days of the 1940s, when Boeing could churn out a B-17 bomber every hour, and Kaiser could build a ship in 5 days, will not be seen again.

Even if convoys could be instituted quickly, It’s doubtful that Australia and/or its allies could spare enough warships and aircraft to effectively escort them over some of the biggest expanses of water in the world. Hitler started WW2 with 27 long-range submarines (primitive boats, compared to today’s subs), and their actions in the relatively narrow North Atlantic made it touch-and-go as to whether Britain could survive.

The strategy to defeat Australia has always been the same – isolation. It was the Japanese strategy in WW2, and was only defeated by heroic efforts in New Guinea by Australian forces who were as poorly-equipped as you’d expect, and by Americans at Guaalcanl in the Solomons.

Had the Japanese succeeded, we would probably have a very different Australia today.

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Date: 7/01/2018 10:08:41
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170621
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

roughbarked said:


Ian said:

WTF.. Jim Molan is nearly as loopy as Wookie!
(or vice versa)

Maybe he is wookie.


You would that

Wouldnt you ?

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Date: 7/01/2018 10:10:53
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170624
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

wookiemeister said:


roughbarked said:

Ian said:

WTF.. Jim Molan is nearly as loopy as Wookie!
(or vice versa)

Maybe he is wookie.


You would LIKE that

Wouldnt you ?

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Date: 7/01/2018 10:18:06
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170626
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

Whatever happens

On the first day of the invasion the gov will say enough is enough and declare that speeding motorists our number 1 problem and send the entire public service out on the highways with speed cameras.

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Date: 7/01/2018 10:23:52
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170630
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

But don’t get me wrong

Things will be hard as the police are banished from the highway , centrelink blown up and no more money flows to the hard core believers of “equality”. Flowers will be thrown before the tanks of the invader and encouraged to take canberra and the state capitals.

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Date: 7/01/2018 10:26:13
From: Woodie
ID: 1170632
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

wookiemeister said:


Whatever happens

On the first day of the invasion the gov will say enough is enough and declare that speeding motorists our number 1 problem and send the entire public service out on the highways with speed cameras.

Perzacterly Mr Meister. That’d slow the invasion down. Give ‘em all a speeding ticket. More than one, and they have to go back to where they came from.

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Date: 7/01/2018 10:26:50
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1170633
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

wookiemeister said:

‘…as the police are banished from the highway , centrelink blown up…’

Having worked for Centrelink, i think i can guess which people will be doing a lot of the blowing-up.

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Date: 7/01/2018 10:31:17
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170637
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

captain_spalding said:


wookiemeister said:

‘…as the police are banished from the highway , centrelink blown up…’

Having worked for Centrelink, i think i can guess which people will be doing a lot of the blowing-up.


No doubt as the tanks are on the edge of the cities management will be zip tied, stripped, shaved and frogmarched to the sliding doors and duct taped to the information consoles for new applicants to await the liberators.

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Date: 7/01/2018 10:33:00
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1170639
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

Be back later

Its drying out and needs more lotion

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Date: 7/01/2018 23:30:06
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1171034
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

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Date: 7/01/2018 23:33:50
From: Michael V
ID: 1171036
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

wookiemeister said:



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Date: 7/01/2018 23:39:56
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1171037
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

by rights the real danger to any society is very stupid people that vote without thinking and insecure voting systems.

you can have the strongest army in the world but be felled by a fifth column issuing the orders at the rear.

can you think why it has become so that the country would only have two weeks of fuel in such an eventuality?

molan is barking up the wrong tree.

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Date: 7/01/2018 23:45:40
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1171038
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

by rights that was plato’s point (and his teacher’s, socrates)

plato had seen the total collapse of greek civilisation engineered by one man – Pericles

greek society created these deeply flawed characters that would enter government and then go on to do untold damage all the while claiming things were well.

under the banner of “diversity” australia has entered its last stage of – “the republic”.

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Date: 8/01/2018 10:56:26
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1171077
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

If the attacker is the USA then Australia’s defence forces could be grounded within milliseconds of an attack.

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Date: 8/01/2018 11:13:01
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1171082
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

The USA could ground the Australian air force in milliseconds by a computer hack through a pre-installed back dook in the avionics system. eg. disguised as a software “update”. Any other country who found the back door could too.

> The secret to winning any war decisively is to go all in and go hard.

Blitzkrieg. That’s how the Germans won WWII.

Oh wait, they didn’t.

> buy lots of shoulder launched SAMs, buy a decent truck mounted SAM system.

You won’t get any objection from me about that one. Provided there’s no hackable back door.

> build solid fuel ICBMs with conventional warheads build 50,000 of them.

No. Complete waste of money. Even quadcopter drones with conventional warheads would be better. The Japanese had more success with robot hot air balloons than the Germans had with their V2s.

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Date: 8/01/2018 11:17:52
From: Cymek
ID: 1171085
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

mollwollfumble said:


If the attacker is the USA then Australia’s defence forces could be grounded within milliseconds of an attack.

You kind of realise what a superpower is when they have as many or more jets on one aircraft carrier than we do all together and probably more military equipment in one state than we do in the entire continent. I’d even doubt our ability to build simple weapons if another world war started

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Date: 8/01/2018 23:13:08
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1171511
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

mollwollfumble said:


The USA could ground the Australian air force in milliseconds by a computer hack through a pre-installed back dook in the avionics system. eg. disguised as a software “update”. Any other country who found the back door could too.

> The secret to winning any war decisively is to go all in and go hard.

Blitzkrieg. That’s how the Germans won WWII.

Oh wait, they didn’t.

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the germans did win the first stage of the war using blitzkreig, the problem was the leaderissuing crazy orders – guerderian the blitzkreig master had to pretend he was still in a location much further behind the “front” as he told HQ – in reality he trailed lines behind him, when HQ told him to move he was already gone.

hitler yet once again denied the german army their victory by stalling the entire army and allowing the british army to leave from dunkirk instead of sending in the panzers and stopping the retreat. great tactics, terrible management.

the russians perfected the strategy as did the yanks via patton

the idea of blitzkreig is to win as do a huge amount of damage very quickly and to be on the move continuously. hitler never understood blitzkreig and as such could never utilise his forces effectively.

> buy lots of shoulder launched SAMs, buy a decent truck mounted SAM system.

You won’t get any objection from me about that one. Provided there’s no hackable back door.

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maybe you’d buy a selection of them and create a homegrown version?

> build solid fuel ICBMs with conventional warheads build 50,000 of them.

No. Complete waste of money. Even quadcopter drones with conventional warheads would be better. The Japanese had more success with robot hot air balloons than the Germans had with their V2s.


quadcopters wouldn’t be able to attack a powerful enemy thousands across the ocean, they would be picked off, missiles come in hard and fast, the idea would be to overwhelm the enemy regardless of the SAM system they have.

the more missiles you make the cheaper they become, as you bargain a price and also can modify the design as its being put into operational use, this makes it harder to predict.

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Date: 8/01/2018 23:20:13
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1171517
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

theres one approach where a fleet of small quadcopters are released and used to attack infantry

the quad copter approaches an individual target then gets close enough to then fire a directional charge or simply a grenade

the soldier and anyone nearby gets sprayed with fragments

you could shoot at the enemy but this is time consuming and dangerous

imagine trying to adavance and thousands of drones are hovering around trying to land on you like mosquitoes

imagine if they are released at nightfall to search fro sleeping soldiers – by the time the alarm was raised you’d be dead or injured, you’d have a few hundred grenades going off in your position. the most you’d be able to do is release a volley into the sky before it was all over.

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Date: 8/01/2018 23:30:26
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1171522
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

think of it this way – if you had some limited capacity to build drones you could build hundreds of thousands of them

a beach invasion D day style would be wiped out because they could hover out of range of any bombardment then descend onto the troops carriers, they could fly into open doors of ships and kill the captain or key personnel

you wouldn’t be able to sleep properly, a drone could sneak through any kind of hole, or simply sacrifice itself to blast a hole through to allow a torrent to fly in.

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Date: 8/01/2018 23:31:50
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1171523
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

you could use them to invade somewhere, overwhelm enemy positions, sneak into bunkers, fly down tunnels and blow up when they see a human, then another one comes flying past and sweeps through , the drone sends back a signal to say its seen someone.

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Date: 8/01/2018 23:35:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1171526
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

wookiemeister said:


think of it this way – if you had some limited capacity to build drones you could build hundreds of thousands of them

a beach invasion D day style would be wiped out because they could hover out of range of any bombardment then descend onto the troops carriers, they could fly into open doors of ships and kill the captain or key personnel

you wouldn’t be able to sleep properly, a drone could sneak through any kind of hole, or simply sacrifice itself to blast a hole through to allow a torrent to fly in.

As of yet, I haven’t met a drone as quiet as a commando.

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Date: 8/01/2018 23:36:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1171527
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

wookiemeister said:


you could use them to invade somewhere, overwhelm enemy positions, sneak into bunkers, fly down tunnels and blow up when they see a human, then another one comes flying past and sweeps through , the drone sends back a signal to say its seen someone.

Now I’m going to have nightmares anytime I hear a buzzing noise.

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Date: 9/01/2018 01:12:44
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1171540
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:

you could use them to invade somewhere, overwhelm enemy positions, sneak into bunkers, fly down tunnels and blow up when they see a human, then another one comes flying past and sweeps through , the drone sends back a signal to say its seen someone.

Now I’m going to have nightmares anytime I hear a buzzing noise.


theres a star trek new generations episode where they land on a planet and can’t get back – an artifical salesman appears and asks them if they want to buy weapons, (the weapons system designed by the original inhabitants destroyed them – the AI became so clever at one job – creating powerful weapons that they had accidentally wiped themselves out). robots keep coming at the crew, eventually it takes the enterprise shooting down to the surface to stop the robot, then that doesn’t work.

data works out whats going on

“ok – we’ll buy”

suddenly the robots stop and the salesman trying to sell them weapons reappears agreeing its a wise purchase

the crew are allowed to beam back and the planet is marked as quarantined – beware – don’t land here – danger.

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Date: 9/01/2018 01:28:55
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1171541
Subject: re: Australia's defence forces could be grounded within weeks of an attack

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Arsenal_of_Freedom_(episode)

this is the real version of the story i had caught half of years ago

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