Excitement. I get to make a new chat thread for the first time!

:)

Ah yes…I forgot it was February now. I had to read emails and do some stuff. Eating weetbix now, going to work very shortly.

Time to go make coffee and do some washing up and cleaning and things.

Morning folks.

cold and overcast here

Morning Stumpy.I got the washing up done, but forgot to make coffee. Obviously I need one. The kettle is on now…

Michael V said:

Morning Stumpy.I got the washing up done, but forgot to make coffee. Obviously I need one. The kettle is on now…

yeah, I’m wrapped around a cup of tea at the moment

Michael V said:

Morning Stumpy.I got the washing up done, but forgot to make coffee. Obviously I need one. The kettle is on now…

How could you forget the coffee????!!!

kii said:

Michael V said:

Morning Stumpy.I got the washing up done, but forgot to make coffee. Obviously I need one. The kettle is on now…

How could you forget the coffee????!!!

lol, when Mrs SS headed back to work on monday, she filled a travel mug and her 12V mug that plugs into the cigarette lighter, so she had 2 coffees for the trip

Upside downish day.

Started it by wandering outside in the predawn cold this morning squinting at the moon. Back to bed. More sleep.
More refining of stashes. Listened to the 2nd CD in the book recommended by my therapist.

Lunch – two slices of toasted wholegrain bread with hummus and celery sticks on the side. Large mug of tea.

Stumpy_seahorse said:

kii said:

Michael V said:

Morning Stumpy.I got the washing up done, but forgot to make coffee. Obviously I need one. The kettle is on now…

How could you forget the coffee????!!!

lol, when Mrs SS headed back to work on monday, she filled a travel mug and her 12V mug that plugs into the cigarette lighter, so she had 2 coffees for the trip

Actually I forgot to have a coffee Monday morning when we went shopping. I start the day with large mugs of tea and the percolated coffee is around 10am. Now I am not at work, and I don’t buy one in the cafe, it’s just one cup a day.

Stumpy_seahorse said:

Michael V said:

Morning Stumpy.I got the washing up done, but forgot to make coffee. Obviously I need one. The kettle is on now…

yeah, I’m wrapped around a cup of tea at the moment

Coffee’s made and brewing.

kii said:

Michael V said:

Morning Stumpy.I got the washing up done, but forgot to make coffee. Obviously I need one. The kettle is on now…

How could you forget the coffee????!!!

Yeah, that a worry. It seriously shows how much I need one, doesn’t it?

Stumpy_seahorse said:

kii said:

Michael V said:

Morning Stumpy.I got the washing up done, but forgot to make coffee. Obviously I need one. The kettle is on now…

How could you forget the coffee????!!!

lol, when Mrs SS headed back to work on monday, she filled a travel mug and her 12V mug that plugs into the cigarette lighter, so she had 2 coffees for the trip

Mrs SS sounds like a very sensible person to me.

Michael V said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

kii said:

How could you forget the coffee????!!!

lol, when Mrs SS headed back to work on monday, she filled a travel mug and her 12V mug that plugs into the cigarette lighter, so she had 2 coffees for the trip

Mrs SS sounds like a very sensible person to me.

apparently the drive from morgan to waikerie was a bit uncomfortable..
always when you’re in the middle of nowhere, you need a pitstop! lol

Oooo….http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2018/01/werners-nomenclature-of-colours/

I have a $25 BN gift card sitting on the desk. Plus free shipping until the 7th…

Stumpy_seahorse said:

Michael V said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

lol, when Mrs SS headed back to work on monday, she filled a travel mug and her 12V mug that plugs into the cigarette lighter, so she had 2 coffees for the trip

Mrs SS sounds like a very sensible person to me.

apparently the drive from morgan to waikerie was a bit uncomfortable..
always when you’re in the middle of nowhere, you need a pitstop! lol

Two left doors of the car open solves that one.

Morning, bunnings cold, where’s Summer? 10 degrees and cloudy

Stumpy…been jet skiing lately?

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/man-appeals-for-help-to-find-40000-prosthetic-leg/news-story/c5969e7455dc413c3b9bf6db998c62e6

kii said:

Oooo….http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2018/01/werners-nomenclature-of-colours/

I have a $25 BN gift card sitting on the desk. Plus free shipping until the 7th…

Should that go into molly’s colourants thread? He might like to buy the book, too.

poikilotherm said:

Morning, bunnings cold, where’s Summer? 10 degrees and cloudy

Stumpy…been jet skiing lately?

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/man-appeals-for-help-to-find-40000-prosthetic-leg/news-story/c5969e7455dc413c3b9bf6db998c62e6

lol, that’s a bloody expensive leg..
My waterproof one was only $7K.
don’t understand why he can’t be in the water or go swimming without it, you’d think that would be one place you wouldn’t need it.

I’m in the market for a decent wheelchair now, had a chat with the surgeons on tuesday and they reckon I’ll have trouble after the surgery surgery wearing a prosthetic… and crutches aren’t real good with a fistula

poikilotherm said:

Morning, bunnings cold, where’s Summer? 10 degrees and cloudy

Stumpy…been jet skiing lately?

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/man-appeals-for-help-to-find-40000-prosthetic-leg/news-story/c5969e7455dc413c3b9bf6db998c62e6

Summer’s going along quite nicely here now. A bit of rain this morning (as all summers should have and we have been missing out of). Currently it’s 25.1°C and 83% RH. I’ll take my t-shirt off if it warms up much more. Even though 32°C was predicted by BoM yesterday, unless the cloud clears away, it’s unlikely to reach 27°C today. Oh, I see BoM have now changed their predicted top temperature to 26°C. That’s a good summer temperature.

:)

I suspect that’s another Stumpy, not our contributor…

Michael V said:

poikilotherm said:

Morning, bunnings cold, where’s Summer? 10 degrees and cloudy

Stumpy…been jet skiing lately?

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/man-appeals-for-help-to-find-40000-prosthetic-leg/news-story/c5969e7455dc413c3b9bf6db998c62e6

Summer’s going along quite nicely here now. A bit of rain this morning (as all summers should have and we have been missing out of). Currently it’s 25.1°C and 83% RH. I’ll take my t-shirt off if it warms up much more. Even though 32°C was predicted by BoM yesterday, unless the cloud clears away, it’s unlikely to reach 27°C today. Oh, I see BoM have now changed their predicted top temperature to 26°C. That’s a good summer temperature.

:)

I suspect that’s another Stumpy, not our contributor…

Stumpy_seahorse said:

poikilotherm said:

Morning, bunnings cold, where’s Summer? 10 degrees and cloudy

Stumpy…been jet skiing lately?

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/man-appeals-for-help-to-find-40000-prosthetic-leg/news-story/c5969e7455dc413c3b9bf6db998c62e6

lol, that’s a bloody expensive leg..
My waterproof one was only $7K.
don’t understand why he can’t be in the water or go swimming without it, you’d think that would be one place you wouldn’t need it.

I’m in the market for a decent wheelchair now, had a chat with the surgeons on tuesday and they reckon I’ll have trouble after the surgery surgery wearing a prosthetic… and crutches aren’t real good with a fistula

Damn, wheelchairs are expensive bastards for something that’s just a bit of metal tubing with shitty bicycle wheels.

poikilotherm said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

poikilotherm said:

Morning, bunnings cold, where’s Summer? 10 degrees and cloudy

Stumpy…been jet skiing lately?

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/man-appeals-for-help-to-find-40000-prosthetic-leg/news-story/c5969e7455dc413c3b9bf6db998c62e6

lol, that’s a bloody expensive leg..
My waterproof one was only $7K.
don’t understand why he can’t be in the water or go swimming without it, you’d think that would be one place you wouldn’t need it.

I’m in the market for a decent wheelchair now, had a chat with the surgeons on tuesday and they reckon I’ll have trouble after the surgery surgery wearing a prosthetic… and crutches aren’t real good with a fistula

Damn, wheelchairs are expensive bastards for something that’s just a bit of metal tubing with shitty bicycle wheels.

yeah, one of the main problems would be getting something suitable for getting around a city for a month and going offroad at home (and 3 corner jack proofing the wheels!)

Morning punters and correctors, overcast and drizzling in Bissy on this first day of February in the year of Our Lord MMXVIII

Stumpy_seahorse said:

poikilotherm said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

lol, that’s a bloody expensive leg..
My waterproof one was only $7K.
don’t understand why he can’t be in the water or go swimming without it, you’d think that would be one place you wouldn’t need it.

I’m in the market for a decent wheelchair now, had a chat with the surgeons on tuesday and they reckon I’ll have trouble after the surgery surgery wearing a prosthetic… and crutches aren’t real good with a fistula

Damn, wheelchairs are expensive bastards for something that’s just a bit of metal tubing with shitty bicycle wheels.

yeah, one of the main problems would be getting something suitable for getting around a city for a month and going offroad at home (and 3 corner jack proofing the wheels!)

They’re available, I looked into one for a customer. ~$15k before customisations – this one was driven by the chin though so probably a bit more advanced than you’d need.

poikilotherm said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

poikilotherm said:

Damn, wheelchairs are expensive bastards for something that’s just a bit of metal tubing with shitty bicycle wheels.

yeah, one of the main problems would be getting something suitable for getting around a city for a month and going offroad at home (and 3 corner jack proofing the wheels!)

They’re available, I looked into one for a customer. ~$15k before customisations – this one was driven by the chin though so probably a bit more advanced than you’d need.

yeah. I was chatting with the president of the peterborough rodeo about his wheelchair, he gets around fairly well

Are you getting more leg removed, Stumps?

Stumpy_seahorse said:

poikilotherm said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

lol, that’s a bloody expensive leg..
My waterproof one was only $7K.
don’t understand why he can’t be in the water or go swimming without it, you’d think that would be one place you wouldn’t need it.

I’m in the market for a decent wheelchair now, had a chat with the surgeons on tuesday and they reckon I’ll have trouble after the surgery surgery wearing a prosthetic… and crutches aren’t real good with a fistula

Damn, wheelchairs are expensive bastards for something that’s just a bit of metal tubing with shitty bicycle wheels.

yeah, one of the main problems would be getting something suitable for getting around a city for a month and going offroad at home (and 3 corner jack proofing the wheels!)

(and 3 corner jack proofing the wheels!)

———————————————————————-

True Blue Goo is your friend. Seriously.

http://www.truebluegoo.net/page/page/7153432.htm

Had a dream this morning, I was mucking around with a generator and pumps and stuff when a problem arouse and a hologram help page appeared in the air and I could move it around………………….

Peak Warming Man said:

Are you getting more leg removed, Stumps?

Nah, waiting on bits to get installed..

Peak Warming Man said:

Had a dream this morning, I was mucking around with a generator and pumps and stuff when a problem arouse and a hologram help page appeared in the air and I could move it around………………….

Neutrinos are your friend…

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Had a dream this morning, I was mucking around with a generator and pumps and stuff when a problem arouse and a hologram help page appeared in the air and I could move it around………………….

Neutrinos are your friend…

Morning all.
Neutrino. What a great name for a Tesla. The Tesla Neutrino has a real ring to it.

Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Had a dream this morning, I was mucking around with a generator and pumps and stuff when a problem arouse and a hologram help page appeared in the air and I could move it around………………….

Neutrinos are your friend…

Morning all.
Neutrino. What a great name for a Tesla. The Tesla Neutrino has a real ring to it.

So good, Elon could launch it into space…

Michael V said:

Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Neutrinos are your friend…

Morning all.
Neutrino. What a great name for a Tesla. The Tesla Neutrino has a real ring to it.

So good, Elon could launch it into space…

So what’s the deal with Elon and Tesla?
According to the newspaper, he’s stepped down from his position in Tesla, washing his hands of it

Stumpy_seahorse said:

Michael V said:

Tamb said:

Morning all.
Neutrino. What a great name for a Tesla. The Tesla Neutrino has a real ring to it.

So good, Elon could launch it into space…

So what’s the deal with Elon and Tesla?
According to the newspaper, he’s stepped down from his position in Tesla, washing his hands of it

Jump away before something fails.

Stumpy_seahorse said:

Michael V said:

Tamb said:

Morning all.
Neutrino. What a great name for a Tesla. The Tesla Neutrino has a real ring to it.

So good, Elon could launch it into space…

So what’s the deal with Elon and Tesla?
According to the newspaper, he’s stepped down from his position in Tesla, washing his hands of it

nfi, sorry. dv posted something about him having a notion of sending one of the cars into space.

Michael V said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

Michael V said:

So good, Elon could launch it into space…

So what’s the deal with Elon and Tesla?
According to the newspaper, he’s stepped down from his position in Tesla, washing his hands of it

nfi, sorry. dv posted something about him having a notion of sending one of the cars into space.

Do you have a reference? I can’t find one.

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

So what’s the deal with Elon and Tesla?
According to the newspaper, he’s stepped down from his position in Tesla, washing his hands of it

nfi, sorry. dv posted something about him having a notion of sending one of the cars into space.

Do you have a reference? I can’t find one.

it was in the advertiser financial pages, friday or saturday (physical paper). I had a look at their site, but trying to search for something is near impossible

Stumpy_seahorse said:

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

nfi, sorry. dv posted something about him having a notion of sending one of the cars into space.

Do you have a reference? I can’t find one.

it was in the advertiser financial pages, friday or saturday (physical paper). I had a look at their site, but trying to search for something is near impossible

http://www.smh.com.au/world/elon-musk-to-use-falcon-heavy-rocket-to-launch-tesla-car-into-space-20180130-p4yz3b.html

https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/hybrid-electric/a15928282/elon-musk-roadster-record-fastest-car/

• So what’s the deal with Elon and Tesla?

He has gone into arms dealing now, selling flame throwers…

furious said:

• So what’s the deal with Elon and Tesla?

He has gone into arms dealing now, selling flame throwers…

gotta get those emissions up somehow….

We ordered a new window for the kitchen, – we currently have no window in the kitchen – it’s part of the main front room , which has two large windows. There’s a small skylight in the kitchen end..

A phone call last week said: ready on the first of February.

Received the installation quote from our builder yesterday.

YAY!

Nearly called him to ask for a starting date, then received a phone call that the window won’t be ready for two weeks.

Grrrr……

You may have misunderstood, bogsnorkler. Stumpy reckoned Musk had resigned from Tesla. I couldn’t find anything about that.

• You may have misunderstood, bogsnorkler. Stumpy reckoned Musk had resigned from Tesla. I couldn’t find anything about that.

I think he just came up with a pay structure that means if he doesn’t hit certain targets he gets no pay…

Michael V said:

You may have misunderstood, bogsnorkler. Stumpy reckoned Musk had resigned from Tesla. I couldn’t find anything about that.

ok, can only find talk about him that says he might stand down from around july aug last year.

furious said:

• You may have misunderstood, bogsnorkler. Stumpy reckoned Musk had resigned from Tesla. I couldn’t find anything about that.

I think he just came up with a pay structure that means if he doesn’t hit certain targets he gets no pay…

Yeah, but that was about three years ago. Not last week.

Michael V said:

furious said:

• You may have misunderstood, bogsnorkler. Stumpy reckoned Musk had resigned from Tesla. I couldn’t find anything about that.

I think he just came up with a pay structure that means if he doesn’t hit certain targets he gets no pay…

Yeah, but that was about three years ago. Not last week.

I’ll see if I can get someone who still has the paper to send it to me

Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

You may have misunderstood, bogsnorkler. Stumpy reckoned Musk had resigned from Tesla. I couldn’t find anything about that.

ok, can only find talk about him that says he might stand down from around july aug last year.

Ha, so Stumpy’s newspaper was likely repeating a six-month-old rumour then?

Michael V said:

Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Neutrinos are your friend…

Morning all.
Neutrino. What a great name for a Tesla. The Tesla Neutrino has a real ring to it.

So good, Elon could launch it into space…

Wouldn’t have the range.

• Yeah, but that was about three years ago. Not last week.

If he did it three years ago, I don’t know about it, but he also did it (again?) last week…

Tesla boss Elon Musk gambles his official salary on crazy growth expectations

Michael V said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

Michael V said:

So good, Elon could launch it into space…

So what’s the deal with Elon and Tesla?
According to the newspaper, he’s stepped down from his position in Tesla, washing his hands of it

nfi, sorry. dv posted something about him having a notion of sending one of the cars into space.

Like the cars. No staying power.

Michael V said:

Excitement. I get to make a new chat thread for the first time!

:)

Ahem.

Sorry MV, but I beat you to the (pinch and a) punch this time.

Thread before this one is called ‘The “Once in a Blue Moon’ February chat’.

:)

Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

You may have misunderstood, bogsnorkler. Stumpy reckoned Musk had resigned from Tesla. I couldn’t find anything about that.

ok, can only find talk about him that says he might stand down from around july aug last year.

Ha, so Stumpy’s newspaper was likely repeating a six-month-old rumour then?

Actually, to be honest, I read the newspaper at the roadhouse on the way down to Adelaide, so it could have been a 6-month old paper…

furious said:

• Yeah, but that was about three years ago. Not last week.

If he did it three years ago, I don’t know about it, but he also did it (again?) last week…

Tesla boss Elon Musk gambles his official salary on crazy growth expectations

Ah. It seems it’s just a re-negotiation of salary gamble. Effectively no salary, but much stock if certain market capitalisation goals are met (the gamble). That has worked nicely for him in the past.

AussieDJ said:

Michael V said:

Excitement. I get to make a new chat thread for the first time!

:)

Ahem.

Sorry MV, but I beat you to the (pinch and a) punch this time.

Thread before this one is called ‘The “Once in a Blue Moon’ February chat’.

:)

Sorry. I missed that.

:(

Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/hybrid-electric/a15928282/elon-musk-roadster-record-fastest-car/

“Buy ad removal pass” for popularmechanics – grr.

Greetings

Good morning and welcome to DA’s DAily report.

Much cooler today than yesterday, with some showers and a possible storm this arvo.

Spent the last couple of days at my dad’s place. It was good to get away for a couple of days. Mini Me was well behaved which is always a good thing.

Divine Angel said:

Good morning and welcome to DA’s DAily report.

Much cooler today than yesterday, with some showers and a possible storm this arvo.

Spent the last couple of days at my dad’s place. It was good to get away for a couple of days. Mini Me was well behaved which is always a good thing.

Just an excuse to drive the new vroom vroom around.

Divine Angel said:

Good morning and welcome to DA’s DAily report.

Much cooler today than yesterday, with some showers and a possible storm this arvo.

Spent the last couple of days at my dad’s place. It was good to get away for a couple of days. Mini Me was well behaved which is always a good thing.

the treat of being gaffer taped always focusses a young kid’s mind.

Bogsnorkler said:

Divine Angel said:

Good morning and welcome to DA’s DAily report.

Much cooler today than yesterday, with some showers and a possible storm this arvo.

Spent the last couple of days at my dad’s place. It was good to get away for a couple of days. Mini Me was well behaved which is always a good thing.

the treat of being gaffer taped always focusses a young kid’s mind.

sorry not treat, threat.

Surley we can send one of our mothballed desal plants to Cape Town so they don’t have to put down all the animals at the zoo before they die of thirst.

Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Divine Angel said:

Good morning and welcome to DA’s DAily report.

Much cooler today than yesterday, with some showers and a possible storm this arvo.

Spent the last couple of days at my dad’s place. It was good to get away for a couple of days. Mini Me was well behaved which is always a good thing.

the treat of being gaffer taped always focusses a young kid’s mind.

sorry not treat, threat.

Either one works.

Peak Warming Man said:

Divine Angel said:

Good morning and welcome to DA’s DAily report.

Much cooler today than yesterday, with some showers and a possible storm this arvo.

Spent the last couple of days at my dad’s place. It was good to get away for a couple of days. Mini Me was well behaved which is always a good thing.

Just an excuse to drive the new vroom vroom around.

Speaking of your new vroom vroom, how is it DA?

Peak Warming Man said:

Divine Angel said:

Good morning and welcome to DA’s DAily report.

Much cooler today than yesterday, with some showers and a possible storm this arvo.

Spent the last couple of days at my dad’s place. It was good to get away for a couple of days. Mini Me was well behaved which is always a good thing.

Just an excuse to drive the new vroom vroom around.

Always!
Actually I have a copy of my dad’s will and while I was having a clean out I noticed it needed to be updated, so that’s why I went up.

I also discovered that Blackbutt has the same postcode as Ipswich, despite being 130kms away.

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Divine Angel said:

Good morning and welcome to DA’s DAily report.

Much cooler today than yesterday, with some showers and a possible storm this arvo.

Spent the last couple of days at my dad’s place. It was good to get away for a couple of days. Mini Me was well behaved which is always a good thing.

Just an excuse to drive the new vroom vroom around.

Speaking of your new vroom vroom, how is it DA?

Brilliant. I love it so.

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Divine Angel said:

Good morning and welcome to DA’s DAily report.

Much cooler today than yesterday, with some showers and a possible storm this arvo.

Spent the last couple of days at my dad’s place. It was good to get away for a couple of days. Mini Me was well behaved which is always a good thing.

Just an excuse to drive the new vroom vroom around.

Speaking of your new vroom vroom, how is it DA?

Had a phone call from Dom Toretto yet?

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Just an excuse to drive the new vroom vroom around.

Speaking of your new vroom vroom, how is it DA?

Brilliant. I love it so.

Good to hear.

“Tired, hungry and depressed: What life is like for many Australian lawyers”

I’m not clicking on that ABC story right now.
I’m going to save it for lunch time, should be good for a chuckle.

“Stressed and overworked lawyers suffering from disordered eating, study finds”-ABC News

Aww. Ain’t that a shame? And all they have to show for it is a big pile of money.

Peak Warming Man said:

“Tired, hungry and depressed: What life is like for many Australian lawyers”

I’m not clicking on that ABC story right now.
I’m going to save it for lunch time, should be good for a chuckle.

:)

captain_spalding said:

“Stressed and overworked lawyers suffering from disordered eating, study finds”-ABC News

Aww. Ain’t that a shame? And all they have to show for it is a big pile of money.

Perhaps many professions have stressed, overworked and hungry employees. And those employees don’t have a big pile of money.

Surprising, I know.

Most of my days I’m tired and depressed. Today’s not so bad, Mini Me slept in til 7 (her normal waking time is 5.30).

I am hungry though…

morning.. I have been made redundant as both kids are now getting themselves to school with friends.. and, I suspect, home again. sigh

Arts said:

morning.. I have been made redundant as both kids are now getting themselves to school with friends.. and, I suspect, home again. sigh

That could mean you can start drinking earlier in the day

Hey DA. What do you think of those NSW ladies with all the lip fillers on MKR?

Divine Angel said:

Most of my days I’m tired and depressed. Today’s not so bad, Mini Me slept in til 7 (her normal waking time is 5.30).

I am hungry though…

Here, have half of my toasted sandwich.

:)

Morning all.

there’s a new kind of woo – Chakra Chime sound healing

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Most of my days I’m tired and depressed. Today’s not so bad, Mini Me slept in til 7 (her normal waking time is 5.30).

I am hungry though…

Here, have half of my toasted sandwich.

:)

lifts up corner of bread.

WTF is that?

Arts said:

morning.. I have been made redundant as both kids are now getting themselves to school with friends.. and, I suspect, home again. sigh

Cool! Retired, then. You can do what you want to now…

:)

:)

:)

Peak Warming Man said:

“Tired, hungry and depressed: What life is like for many Australian lawyers”

I’m not clicking on that ABC story right now.
I’m going to save it for lunch time, should be good for a chuckle.

Ya know, Mr Man? It’s all about what they eat for lunch, so you’ll be able to offer a first hand critique.

Rule 303 said:

Morning all.

there’s a new kind of woo – Chakra Chime sound healing

look like spirit levels.

Rule 303 said:

Morning all.

there’s a new kind of woo – Chakra Chime sound healing

Please elaborate.

Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Most of my days I’m tired and depressed. Today’s not so bad, Mini Me slept in til 7 (her normal waking time is 5.30).

I am hungry though…

Here, have half of my toasted sandwich.

:)

lifts up corner of bread.

WTF is that?

Hot English Mustard.

Bogsnorkler said:

Rule 303 said:

Morning all.

there’s a new kind of woo – Chakra Chime sound healing

look like spirit levels.

Clever.

:)

Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

Here, have half of my toasted sandwich.

:)

lifts up corner of bread.

WTF is that?

Hot English Mustard.

and that is it? a mustard sanger?

;-)

Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Rule 303 said:

Morning all.

there’s a new kind of woo – Chakra Chime sound healing

look like spirit levels.

Clever.

:)

they tune your chakras and get your Kundalini to rise. thus balancing you with the universal chi.

Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

lifts up corner of bread.

WTF is that?

Hot English Mustard.

and that is it? a mustard sanger?

;-)

Cheeses, tomato, mushroom and Hot English Mustard (lots).

Bogsnorkler said:

Rule 303 said:

Morning all.

there’s a new kind of woo – Chakra Chime sound healing

look like spirit levels.

LOL.

Don’t you start…

Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

Hot English Mustard.

and that is it? a mustard sanger?

;-)

Cheeses, tomato, mushroom and Hot English Mustard (lots).

i wooda left off the mushies.

by

Bogsnorkler said:

Rule 303 said:

Morning all.

there’s a new kind of woo – Chakra Chime sound healing

look like spirit levels.

It’s to restore balance between the energy centres.

Michael V said:

Arts said:

morning.. I have been made redundant as both kids are now getting themselves to school with friends.. and, I suspect, home again. sigh

Cool! Retired, then. You can do what you want to now…

:)

:)

:)

I want to take the kids to school

Michael V said:

Rule 303 said:

Morning all.

there’s a new kind of woo – Chakra Chime sound healing

Please elaborate.

Some kind of woo healing thing… FIIK.

Arts said:

Michael V said:

Arts said:

morning.. I have been made redundant as both kids are now getting themselves to school with friends.. and, I suspect, home again. sigh

Cool! Retired, then. You can do what you want to now…

:)

:)

:)

I want to take the kids to school

drive around until you see some and take them to school.

Arts said:

Michael V said:

Arts said:

morning.. I have been made redundant as both kids are now getting themselves to school with friends.. and, I suspect, home again. sigh

Cool! Retired, then. You can do what you want to now…

:)

:)

:)

I want to take the kids to school

Disguise yourself perhaps as a tree or bush and follow them to school and loiter outside

Witty Rejoinder said:

by

LOL

Arts said:

Michael V said:

Arts said:

morning.. I have been made redundant as both kids are now getting themselves to school with friends.. and, I suspect, home again. sigh

Cool! Retired, then. You can do what you want to now…

:)

:)

:)

I want to take the kids to school

If you hobble them they won’t even leave the house…

this forum is excellent advice

Arts said:

this forum is excellent advice

get some of these

David Feeney is gone. Can’t say i’ll miss him.

Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

this forum is excellent advice

get some of these

I don’t know why I’m worried, we have a lot of children on this forum :)

Arts said:

Michael V said:

Arts said:

morning.. I have been made redundant as both kids are now getting themselves to school with friends.. and, I suspect, home again. sigh

Cool! Retired, then. You can do what you want to now…

:)

:)

:)

I want to take the kids to school

You could just slowly follow them in the car.

• this forum is excellent advice

Go get a bus licence and then you can drive the school bus and take every kid to school…

Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

and that is it? a mustard sanger?

;-)

Cheeses, tomato, mushroom and Hot English Mustard (lots).

i wooda left off the mushies.

I apologise, but I made it for me. We finished the ham yesterday. Normally it’d have ham and no mushrooms with the other stuff, but I added mushrooms today. And I loved it.

DA didn’t claim the half I offered to cure her hunger, so I scoffed that too. Bad luck DA.

Arts said:

Michael V said:

Arts said:

morning.. I have been made redundant as both kids are now getting themselves to school with friends.. and, I suspect, home again. sigh

Cool! Retired, then. You can do what you want to now…

:)

:)

:)

I want to take the kids to school

Oh.

Bummer then.

Have to find a new hobby, then.

Michael V said:

Arts said:

Michael V said:

Cool! Retired, then. You can do what you want to now…

:)

:)

:)

I want to take the kids to school

Oh.

Bummer then.

Have to find a new hobby, then.

this one looks pretty new

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrOu0oc9aB4

Witty Rejoinder said:

David Feeney is gone. Can’t say i’ll miss him.

I can’t say it either. Who is he?

kii said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

David Feeney is gone. Can’t say i’ll miss him.

I can’t say it either. Who is he?

some foreigner.

sarahs mum said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrOu0oc9aB4

Ah, the memories.

kii said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

David Feeney is gone. Can’t say i’ll miss him.

I can’t say it either. Who is he?

ALP MP for the federal electorate of Batman.

• some foreigner

That’s as cold as ice…

Witty Rejoinder said:

kii said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

David Feeney is gone. Can’t say i’ll miss him.

I can’t say it either. Who is he?

ALP MP for the federal electorate of Batman.

Where has he gone?

furious said:

• some foreigner

That’s as cold as ice…

:)

sarahs mum said:

kii said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

David Feeney is gone. Can’t say i’ll miss him.

I can’t say it either. Who is he?

some foreigner.

Labor backbencher David Feeney will announce today he is resigning from the Parliament over his dual British citizenship, the ABC understands.

Key points:
Feeney obtained British citizenship through father, but says he revoked it before he was elected
Told High Court last month he still could not find paperwork to confirm renunciation
Resignation prompts Batman by-election, where ABC understands Ged Kearney likely to run for Labor
The MP’s resignation will prompt a by-election in his marginal Melbourne seat of Batman, and it is understood union leader Ged Kearney is likely to run as the candidate for Labor.

There was a 9.5 per cent swing to the Greens at the last federal election in Batman.

Mr Feeney defeated his Greens opponent Alex Bhathal by fewer than 2,000 votes.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-01/david-feeney-to-resign-from-parliament-over-dual-citizenship/9382470

sarahs mum said:

kii said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

David Feeney is gone. Can’t say i’ll miss him.

I can’t say it either. Who is he?

some foreigner.

Like me?

US gov. employee: does the rocket scientist know or talk to any foreigners?

*blink blink *

kii: Yes…..me.

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

kii said:

I can’t say it either. Who is he?

some foreigner.

Labor backbencher David Feeney will announce today he is resigning from the Parliament over his dual British citizenship, the ABC understands.

Key points:
Feeney obtained British citizenship through father, but says he revoked it before he was elected
Told High Court last month he still could not find paperwork to confirm renunciation
Resignation prompts Batman by-election, where ABC understands Ged Kearney likely to run for Labor
The MP’s resignation will prompt a by-election in his marginal Melbourne seat of Batman, and it is understood union leader Ged Kearney is likely to run as the candidate for Labor.

There was a 9.5 per cent swing to the Greens at the last federal election in Batman.

Mr Feeney defeated his Greens opponent Alex Bhathal by fewer than 2,000 votes.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-01/david-feeney-to-resign-from-parliament-over-dual-citizenship/9382470

Ah. Ta.

I’m so out of touch with Australian politics.

kii said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

kii said:

I can’t say it either. Who is he?

ALP MP for the federal electorate of Batman.

Where has he gone?

It’s being reported that he’s going to resign from parliament and not contest the by-election that was necessitated by his apparent ineligibility because of his British citizenship.

kii said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

some foreigner.

Labor backbencher David Feeney will announce today he is resigning from the Parliament over his dual British citizenship, the ABC understands.

Key points:
Feeney obtained British citizenship through father, but says he revoked it before he was elected
Told High Court last month he still could not find paperwork to confirm renunciation
Resignation prompts Batman by-election, where ABC understands Ged Kearney likely to run for Labor
The MP’s resignation will prompt a by-election in his marginal Melbourne seat of Batman, and it is understood union leader Ged Kearney is likely to run as the candidate for Labor.

There was a 9.5 per cent swing to the Greens at the last federal election in Batman.

Mr Feeney defeated his Greens opponent Alex Bhathal by fewer than 2,000 votes.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-01/david-feeney-to-resign-from-parliament-over-dual-citizenship/9382470

Ah. Ta.

I’m so out of touch with Australian politics.

But it’s so exciting

Witty Rejoinder said:

kii said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

ALP MP for the federal electorate of Batman.

Where has he gone?

It’s being reported that he’s going to resign from parliament and not contest the by-election that was necessitated by his apparent ineligibility because of his British citizenship.

I fail to comprehend why, if he had recanted his Brit Cit, that there aren’t records back in Britain. If he lost the paperwork surely he could ask for a reprinted receipt?

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

kii said:

Where has he gone?

It’s being reported that he’s going to resign from parliament and not contest the by-election that was necessitated by his apparent ineligibility because of his British citizenship.

I fail to comprehend why, if he had recanted his Brit Cit, that there aren’t records back in Britain. If he lost the paperwork surely he could ask for a reprinted receipt?

Yeah it’s a bit sus.

Witty Rejoinder said:

kii said:

Michael V said:

Labor backbencher David Feeney will announce today he is resigning from the Parliament over his dual British citizenship, the ABC understands.

Key points:
Feeney obtained British citizenship through father, but says he revoked it before he was elected
Told High Court last month he still could not find paperwork to confirm renunciation
Resignation prompts Batman by-election, where ABC understands Ged Kearney likely to run for Labor
The MP’s resignation will prompt a by-election in his marginal Melbourne seat of Batman, and it is understood union leader Ged Kearney is likely to run as the candidate for Labor.

There was a 9.5 per cent swing to the Greens at the last federal election in Batman.

Mr Feeney defeated his Greens opponent Alex Bhathal by fewer than 2,000 votes.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-01/david-feeney-to-resign-from-parliament-over-dual-citizenship/9382470

Ah. Ta.

I’m so out of touch with Australian politics.

But it’s so exciting

It seems so calm compared to this country :(

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

kii said:

Where has he gone?

It’s being reported that he’s going to resign from parliament and not contest the by-election that was necessitated by his apparent ineligibility because of his British citizenship.

I fail to comprehend why, if he had recanted his Brit Cit, that there aren’t records back in Britain. If he lost the paperwork surely he could ask for a reprinted receipt?

Because he’s a traditional politician.

Nup….nope.

Just tried to read the latest insanity happening and my brain shut off.

All I can think of is sewing fake violets on a recently dyed doll’s skirt.

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

It’s being reported that he’s going to resign from parliament and not contest the by-election that was necessitated by his apparent ineligibility because of his British citizenship.

I fail to comprehend why, if he had recanted his Brit Cit, that there aren’t records back in Britain. If he lost the paperwork surely he could ask for a reprinted receipt?

Because he’s a traditional politician.

Where “traditional politician” = liar.

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

I fail to comprehend why, if he had recanted his Brit Cit, that there aren’t records back in Britain. If he lost the paperwork surely he could ask for a reprinted receipt?

Because he’s a traditional politician.

Where “traditional politician” = liar.

Maybe his certificate is in the op-shop papers.

it’s rather difficult to stock a toolbox when the cat wants to explore every drawer..

Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

Because he’s a traditional politician.

Where “traditional politician” = liar.

Maybe his certificate is in the op-shop papers.

Nice try, but unlikely.

Stumpy_seahorse said:

it’s rather difficult to stock a toolbox when the cat wants to explore every drawer..

Maybe it’s cataloguing.

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

kii said:

I can’t say it either. Who is he?

some foreigner.

Labor backbencher David Feeney will announce today he is resigning from the Parliament over his dual British citizenship, the ABC understands.

Key points:
Feeney obtained British citizenship through father, but says he revoked it before he was elected
Told High Court last month he still could not find paperwork to confirm renunciation
Resignation prompts Batman by-election, where ABC understands Ged Kearney likely to run for Labor
The MP’s resignation will prompt a by-election in his marginal Melbourne seat of Batman, and it is understood union leader Ged Kearney is likely to run as the candidate for Labor.

There was a 9.5 per cent swing to the Greens at the last federal election in Batman.

Mr Feeney defeated his Greens opponent Alex Bhathal by fewer than 2,000 votes.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-01/david-feeney-to-resign-from-parliament-over-dual-citizenship/9382470

Doesn’t sound right. Lost the paperwork? Tony Abbott produced a letter from the the relevant UK department confirming he had cancelled his British citizenship on such-and-such date.

Sounds to me like he was given all the paperwork to do but was too lazy to actually complete it.

Tamb said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

it’s rather difficult to stock a toolbox when the cat wants to explore every drawer..

Maybe it’s cataloguing.

Heh.

Brianne Randall-Gay was 17 when she was treated for scoliosis by Nassar, who massaged her breasts and attempted to put his fingers in her vagina. Randall-Gay’s mother subsequently complained to Meridian Township police department. However, Nassar said the treatment was part of “a medical technique known as Sacrotuberous Ligament Release” and gave police a PowerPoint presentation on the subject.

Police decided not to send the case to prosectors as they accepted Nassar’s explanation.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/31/larry-nassar-sexual-abuse-sentencing-hearing?CMP=soc_567

Hello lunchtime people. Had an interesting morning. Heard from the wife of one of my patients who is in Melbourne after an ocular emergency. She needed to talk. Spent some time talking with a lass who has been “let go” and needed to know what to do about finding out why. Chatted with a CFA bloke who now admits he is too old to be on the truck…after falling off it recently.

We don’t really do normal here.

Your Lordness, I saw the wallet on the table through the window and instinctively knew it was in danger of being stolen.
I smashed the window with the crowbar that I carry at this time of year when the crows are most vicious.
While on the way to hand the wallet in at the police station I realised that some coppers are bend and took the money out of the wallet and put it in my pocket for safe keeping and that was when I was apprehended your Honourship.

Peak Warming Man said:

Your Lordness, I saw the wallet on the table through the window and instinctively knew it was in danger of being stolen.
I smashed the window with the crowbar that I carry at this time of year when the crows are most vicious.
While on the way to hand the wallet in at the police station I realised that some coppers are bend and took the money out of the wallet and put it in my pocket for safe keeping and that was when I was apprehended your Honourship.

do you need someone to bail you?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-01/britains-houses-of-parliament-in-disrepair,-mps-divided-on-fix/9382108

British houses of parliament to berenivated and repairs. A six year project costing 3.5 billion pounds (just over 6 billion AUD).

Fair enough they are getting a bit old and stuff, but for that price and time-frame you could knock the bastard down and build something new and totally modern in half the time at half the cost. It’s not that historic, it was built in the Victorian era in mock Gothic style. You could build a modern building in mock Gothic style too if that was a requirement.

Back to work.

party_pants said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-01/britains-houses-of-parliament-in-disrepair,-mps-divided-on-fix/9382108

British houses of parliament to berenivated and repairs. A six year project costing 3.5 billion pounds (just over 6 billion AUD).

Fair enough they are getting a bit old and stuff, but for that price and time-frame you could knock the bastard down and build something new and totally modern in half the time at half the cost. It’s not that historic, it was built in the Victorian era in mock Gothic style. You could build a modern building in mock Gothic style too if that was a requirement.

be renovated

party_pants said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-01/britains-houses-of-parliament-in-disrepair,-mps-divided-on-fix/9382108

British houses of parliament to berenivated and repairs. A six year project costing 3.5 billion pounds (just over 6 billion AUD).

Fair enough they are getting a bit old and stuff, but for that price and time-frame you could knock the bastard down and build something new and totally modern in half the time at half the cost. It’s not that historic, it was built in the Victorian era in mock Gothic style. You could build a modern building in mock Gothic style too if that was a requirement.

Yeah, but then it would be modern mock-gothic, not proper Victorian mock-gothic.

Bogsnorkler said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Your Lordness, I saw the wallet on the table through the window and instinctively knew it was in danger of being stolen.
I smashed the window with the crowbar that I carry at this time of year when the crows are most vicious.
While on the way to hand the wallet in at the police station I realised that some coppers are bend and took the money out of the wallet and put it in my pocket for safe keeping and that was when I was apprehended your Honourship.

do you need someone to bail you?

I tried to get a lawyer but they were all too sick from tiredness and hunger.

party_pants said:

party_pants said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-01/britains-houses-of-parliament-in-disrepair,-mps-divided-on-fix/9382108

British houses of parliament to berenivated and repairs. A six year project costing 3.5 billion pounds (just over 6 billion AUD).

Fair enough they are getting a bit old and stuff, but for that price and time-frame you could knock the bastard down and build something new and totally modern in half the time at half the cost. It’s not that historic, it was built in the Victorian era in mock Gothic style. You could build a modern building in mock Gothic style too if that was a requirement.

be renovated

I thought it was the berenivation that was costing all the money.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Your Lordness, I saw the wallet on the table through the window and instinctively knew it was in danger of being stolen.
I smashed the window with the crowbar that I carry at this time of year when the crows are most vicious.
While on the way to hand the wallet in at the police station I realised that some coppers are bend and took the money out of the wallet and put it in my pocket for safe keeping and that was when I was apprehended your Honourship.

do you need someone to bail you?

I tried to get a lawyer but they were all too sick from tiredness and hunger.

party_pants said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-01/britains-houses-of-parliament-in-disrepair,-mps-divided-on-fix/9382108

British houses of parliament to berenivated and repairs. A six year project costing 3.5 billion pounds (just over 6 billion AUD).

Fair enough they are getting a bit old and stuff, but for that price and time-frame you could knock the bastard down and build something new and totally modern in half the time at half the cost. It’s not that historic, it was built in the Victorian era in mock Gothic style. You could build a modern building in mock Gothic style too if that was a requirement.

I wonder if they are modernising the sex dungeon

party_pants said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-01/britains-houses-of-parliament-in-disrepair,-mps-divided-on-fix/9382108

British houses of parliament to berenivated and repairs. A six year project costing 3.5 billion pounds (just over 6 billion AUD).

Fair enough they are getting a bit old and stuff, but for that price and time-frame you could knock the bastard down and build something new and totally modern in half the time at half the cost. It’s not that historic, it was built in the Victorian era in mock Gothic style. You could build a modern building in mock Gothic style too if that was a requirement.

They’re doing the bundy clock first.

Cymek said:

party_pants said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-01/britains-houses-of-parliament-in-disrepair,-mps-divided-on-fix/9382108

British houses of parliament to berenivated and repairs. A six year project costing 3.5 billion pounds (just over 6 billion AUD).

Fair enough they are getting a bit old and stuff, but for that price and time-frame you could knock the bastard down and build something new and totally modern in half the time at half the cost. It’s not that historic, it was built in the Victorian era in mock Gothic style. You could build a modern building in mock Gothic style too if that was a requirement.

I wonder if they are modernising the sex dungeon

Yes. They’re installing a shower & soap. Terrifies your average Pom, that does.

Peak Warming Man said:

party_pants said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-01/britains-houses-of-parliament-in-disrepair,-mps-divided-on-fix/9382108

British houses of parliament to berenivated and repairs. A six year project costing 3.5 billion pounds (just over 6 billion AUD).

Fair enough they are getting a bit old and stuff, but for that price and time-frame you could knock the bastard down and build something new and totally modern in half the time at half the cost. It’s not that historic, it was built in the Victorian era in mock Gothic style. You could build a modern building in mock Gothic style too if that was a requirement.

They’re doing the bundy clock first.

Little Ben?

buffy said:

Hello lunchtime people. Had an interesting morning. Heard from the wife of one of my patients who is in Melbourne after an ocular emergency. She needed to talk. Spent some time talking with a lass who has been “let go” and needed to know what to do about finding out why. Chatted with a CFA bloke who now admits he is too old to be on the truck…after falling off it recently.

We don’t really do normal here.

And shouldn’t widow Jones be told to keep her window shades pulled completely down?

Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

Hello lunchtime people. Had an interesting morning. Heard from the wife of one of my patients who is in Melbourne after an ocular emergency. She needed to talk. Spent some time talking with a lass who has been “let go” and needed to know what to do about finding out why. Chatted with a CFA bloke who now admits he is too old to be on the truck…after falling off it recently.

We don’t really do normal here.

And shouldn’t widow Jones be told to keep her window shades pulled completely down?

Only in Harper Valley.

Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

Hello lunchtime people. Had an interesting morning. Heard from the wife of one of my patients who is in Melbourne after an ocular emergency. She needed to talk. Spent some time talking with a lass who has been “let go” and needed to know what to do about finding out why. Chatted with a CFA bloke who now admits he is too old to be on the truck…after falling off it recently.

We don’t really do normal here.

And shouldn’t widow Jones be told to keep her window shades pulled completely down?

Was a fine women in her day but gravity and nature, wrinkles and pulls everything down

Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

Hello lunchtime people. Had an interesting morning. Heard from the wife of one of my patients who is in Melbourne after an ocular emergency. She needed to talk. Spent some time talking with a lass who has been “let go” and needed to know what to do about finding out why. Chatted with a CFA bloke who now admits he is too old to be on the truck…after falling off it recently.

We don’t really do normal here.

And shouldn’t widow Jones be told to keep her window shades pulled completely down?

and should really remove the OMO box from her front window…

Stumpy_seahorse said:

Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

Hello lunchtime people. Had an interesting morning. Heard from the wife of one of my patients who is in Melbourne after an ocular emergency. She needed to talk. Spent some time talking with a lass who has been “let go” and needed to know what to do about finding out why. Chatted with a CFA bloke who now admits he is too old to be on the truck…after falling off it recently.

We don’t really do normal here.

And shouldn’t widow Jones be told to keep her window shades pulled completely down?

and should really remove the OMO box from her front window…

Lived in a town where the OMO/OWO box was often used.

Tamb said:

Peak Warming Man said:

party_pants said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-01/britains-houses-of-parliament-in-disrepair,-mps-divided-on-fix/9382108

British houses of parliament to berenivated and repairs. A six year project costing 3.5 billion pounds (just over 6 billion AUD).

Fair enough they are getting a bit old and stuff, but for that price and time-frame you could knock the bastard down and build something new and totally modern in half the time at half the cost. It’s not that historic, it was built in the Victorian era in mock Gothic style. You could build a modern building in mock Gothic style too if that was a requirement.

They’re doing the bundy clock first.

Little Ben?

Ted.

Michael V said:

Tamb said:

Peak Warming Man said:

They’re doing the bundy clock first.

Little Ben?

Ted.

Ted?
Big or Little Ted? The Rocket Clock?

Apparently not all lawyers are victims of their profession.

The same ABC that tells us how dreadful it is to be a lawyer reported earlier on a lawyer who seems to have plenty of time and money to allow her to indulge in her hobby at her convenience:

‘Run-eat-sleep-repeat: Adelaide lawyer to compete in 330km Tahoe endurance run’-ABC News 3 Sep 2017

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-03/adelaide-lawyer-to-run-330km-tahoe-200/8867840

captain_spalding said:

Apparently not all lawyers are victims of their profession.

The same ABC that tells us how dreadful it is to be a lawyer reported earlier on a lawyer who seems to have plenty of time and money to allow her to indulge in her hobby at her convenience:

‘Run-eat-sleep-repeat: Adelaide lawyer to compete in 330km Tahoe endurance run’-ABC News 3 Sep 2017

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-03/adelaide-lawyer-to-run-330km-tahoe-200/8867840

From what I’ve heard newly minted lawyers start off at the bottom (but what professional doesn’t) and probably don’t get paid what they should for the work they do. But then again that could be applied to lots of workers who do extra work they don’t even get recognised for let alone paid for. Some of the top lawyers make thousands a day.

Item you ordered Qty ordered Qty supplied Alternative item we provided instead Qty supplied
Coles Deli Giant Pitted Kalamata Olives aprx 125g 1 0 Coles Deli Colossal Kalamata Olives aprx 125g
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Looking good.

• Looking good.

Colossal…

furious said:

• Looking good.

Colossal…

but with pits. I can deal with it.

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Apparently not all lawyers are victims of their profession.

The same ABC that tells us how dreadful it is to be a lawyer reported earlier on a lawyer who seems to have plenty of time and money to allow her to indulge in her hobby at her convenience:

‘Run-eat-sleep-repeat: Adelaide lawyer to compete in 330km Tahoe endurance run’-ABC News 3 Sep 2017

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-03/adelaide-lawyer-to-run-330km-tahoe-200/8867840

From what I’ve heard newly minted lawyers start off at the bottom (but what professional doesn’t) and probably don’t get paid what they should for the work they do. But then again that could be applied to lots of workers who do extra work they don’t even get recognised for let alone paid for. Some of the top lawyers make thousands a day.

Starting of ‘at the bottom’ is what happens in a lot of jobs.

But, starting at the bottom in a law firm is a very different matter from starting from the bottom in a brickworks.

captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Apparently not all lawyers are victims of their profession.

The same ABC that tells us how dreadful it is to be a lawyer reported earlier on a lawyer who seems to have plenty of time and money to allow her to indulge in her hobby at her convenience:

‘Run-eat-sleep-repeat: Adelaide lawyer to compete in 330km Tahoe endurance run’-ABC News 3 Sep 2017

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-03/adelaide-lawyer-to-run-330km-tahoe-200/8867840

From what I’ve heard newly minted lawyers start off at the bottom (but what professional doesn’t) and probably don’t get paid what they should for the work they do. But then again that could be applied to lots of workers who do extra work they don’t even get recognised for let alone paid for. Some of the top lawyers make thousands a day.

Starting of ‘at the bottom’ is what happens in a lot of jobs.

But, starting at the bottom in a law firm is a very different matter from starting from the bottom in a brickworks.

Eunuchs don’t start at the bottom. But you have to be cut out for that kind of work.

Drivers of electric cars will now be able to travel nearly 2000km along the Queensland coast thanks to the completion of an “electric superhighway” of charging stations.

The state government first announced the $3 million project seven months ago, and there are now stations from Coolangatta to Cairns, as well as west from Brisbane to Toowoomba.

Transport and Main Roads Minister Mark Bailey said with charging stations at Townsville and Carmila coming online last week, the first stage of the government’s Queensland Electric Super Highway was officially up and running.

“We now have the world’s longest electric vehicle super highway in a single state stretching all the way up our beautiful eastern coastline,” Mr Bailey said

“To encourage the uptake and interest in electric vehicles, the fast-charging stations are available for use at no cost for the initial phase.”

The stations fully recharge an electric vehicle in an average of 30 minutes and have been placed at 18 locations along the coast, at sites chosen to be near cafes and shops.

Salt of the earth types ‘ere apparently…
“ the best estimate of salt intake in Australia is 9.6 g/day. The mean weighted intake was 10.1 g/day (95% CI, 9.68–10.5 g/day) for men and 7.34 g/day (95% CI, 6.98–7.70 g/day) for women”

Tamb said:

Drivers of electric cars will now be able to travel nearly 2000km along the Queensland coast thanks to the completion of an “electric superhighway” of charging stations.

The state government first announced the $3 million project seven months ago, and there are now stations from Coolangatta to Cairns, as well as west from Brisbane to Toowoomba.

Transport and Main Roads Minister Mark Bailey said with charging stations at Townsville and Carmila coming online last week, the first stage of the government’s Queensland Electric Super Highway was officially up and running.

“We now have the world’s longest electric vehicle super highway in a single state stretching all the way up our beautiful eastern coastline,” Mr Bailey said

“To encourage the uptake and interest in electric vehicles, the fast-charging stations are available for use at no cost for the initial phase.”

The stations fully recharge an electric vehicle in an average of 30 minutes and have been placed at 18 locations along the coast, at sites chosen to be near cafes and shops.

3 mill is so cheap these days to get something good done.

Tamb said:

Drivers of electric cars will now be able to travel nearly 2000km along the Queensland coast thanks to the completion of an “electric superhighway” of charging stations.

The state government first announced the $3 million project seven months ago, and there are now stations from Coolangatta to Cairns, as well as west from Brisbane to Toowoomba.

Transport and Main Roads Minister Mark Bailey said with charging stations at Townsville and Carmila coming online last week, the first stage of the government’s Queensland Electric Super Highway was officially up and running.

“We now have the world’s longest electric vehicle super highway in a single state stretching all the way up our beautiful eastern coastline,” Mr Bailey said

“To encourage the uptake and interest in electric vehicles, the fast-charging stations are available for use at no cost for the initial phase.”

The stations fully recharge an electric vehicle in an average of 30 minutes and have been placed at 18 locations along the coast, at sites chosen to be near cafes and shops.

Warning: the following words may contain some irony.

What a waste of money.

For that $3 million they could have got 1/1000 of a sports stadium re-build.

sarahs mum said:

Tamb said:

Drivers of electric cars will now be able to travel nearly 2000km along the Queensland coast thanks to the completion of an “electric superhighway” of charging stations.

The state government first announced the $3 million project seven months ago, and there are now stations from Coolangatta to Cairns, as well as west from Brisbane to Toowoomba.

Transport and Main Roads Minister Mark Bailey said with charging stations at Townsville and Carmila coming online last week, the first stage of the government’s Queensland Electric Super Highway was officially up and running.

“We now have the world’s longest electric vehicle super highway in a single state stretching all the way up our beautiful eastern coastline,” Mr Bailey said

“To encourage the uptake and interest in electric vehicles, the fast-charging stations are available for use at no cost for the initial phase.”

The stations fully recharge an electric vehicle in an average of 30 minutes and have been placed at 18 locations along the coast, at sites chosen to be near cafes and shops.

3 mill is so cheap these days to get something good done.

Considering that Mareeba shire is talking about spending $4.7 million on a set of traffic lights.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tamb said:

Drivers of electric cars will now be able to travel nearly 2000km along the Queensland coast thanks to the completion of an “electric superhighway” of charging stations.

The state government first announced the $3 million project seven months ago, and there are now stations from Coolangatta to Cairns, as well as west from Brisbane to Toowoomba.

Transport and Main Roads Minister Mark Bailey said with charging stations at Townsville and Carmila coming online last week, the first stage of the government’s Queensland Electric Super Highway was officially up and running.

“We now have the world’s longest electric vehicle super highway in a single state stretching all the way up our beautiful eastern coastline,” Mr Bailey said

“To encourage the uptake and interest in electric vehicles, the fast-charging stations are available for use at no cost for the initial phase.”

The stations fully recharge an electric vehicle in an average of 30 minutes and have been placed at 18 locations along the coast, at sites chosen to be near cafes and shops.

Warning: the following words may contain some irony.

What a waste of money.

For that $3 million they could have got 1/1000 of a sports stadium re-build.

Cost a fortune to move it from Qld to WA though.

Just buy your prime ministership…

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

Tamb said:

Drivers of electric cars will now be able to travel nearly 2000km along the Queensland coast thanks to the completion of an “electric superhighway” of charging stations.

The state government first announced the $3 million project seven months ago, and there are now stations from Coolangatta to Cairns, as well as west from Brisbane to Toowoomba.

Transport and Main Roads Minister Mark Bailey said with charging stations at Townsville and Carmila coming online last week, the first stage of the government’s Queensland Electric Super Highway was officially up and running.

“We now have the world’s longest electric vehicle super highway in a single state stretching all the way up our beautiful eastern coastline,” Mr Bailey said

“To encourage the uptake and interest in electric vehicles, the fast-charging stations are available for use at no cost for the initial phase.”

The stations fully recharge an electric vehicle in an average of 30 minutes and have been placed at 18 locations along the coast, at sites chosen to be near cafes and shops.

3 mill is so cheap these days to get something good done.

Considering that Mareeba shire is talking about spending $4.7 million on a set of traffic lights.

they got ripped off…

https://www.paramountbrowns.com.au/products/assorted-sh-traffic-lights/

poikilotherm said:

Just buy your prime ministership…

They even look like bribes

Banking parasites, ‘consultant’ firms, tobacco, pharmacy owners…

poikilotherm said:

Banking parasites, ‘consultant’ firms, tobacco, pharmacy owners…

at least the pharmacy owners hedged their bets…

kii said:

Michael V said:

Tamb said:

Little Ben?

Ted.

Ted?
Big or Little Ted? The Rocket Clock?

Ted Bundy.

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tamb said:

Drivers of electric cars will now be able to travel nearly 2000km along the Queensland coast thanks to the completion of an “electric superhighway” of charging stations.

The state government first announced the $3 million project seven months ago, and there are now stations from Coolangatta to Cairns, as well as west from Brisbane to Toowoomba.

Transport and Main Roads Minister Mark Bailey said with charging stations at Townsville and Carmila coming online last week, the first stage of the government’s Queensland Electric Super Highway was officially up and running.

“We now have the world’s longest electric vehicle super highway in a single state stretching all the way up our beautiful eastern coastline,” Mr Bailey said

“To encourage the uptake and interest in electric vehicles, the fast-charging stations are available for use at no cost for the initial phase.”

The stations fully recharge an electric vehicle in an average of 30 minutes and have been placed at 18 locations along the coast, at sites chosen to be near cafes and shops.

Warning: the following words may contain some irony.

What a waste of money.

For that $3 million they could have got 1/1000 of a sports stadium re-build.

Cost a fortune to move it from Qld to WA though.

I am wondering why the government is involved, if there is demand, and with the tiny sales I can’t see it, why wouldn’t commercial entities be getting onto it.

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

Tamb said:

Drivers of electric cars will now be able to travel nearly 2000km along the Queensland coast thanks to the completion of an “electric superhighway” of charging stations.

The state government first announced the $3 million project seven months ago, and there are now stations from Coolangatta to Cairns, as well as west from Brisbane to Toowoomba.

Transport and Main Roads Minister Mark Bailey said with charging stations at Townsville and Carmila coming online last week, the first stage of the government’s Queensland Electric Super Highway was officially up and running.

“We now have the world’s longest electric vehicle super highway in a single state stretching all the way up our beautiful eastern coastline,” Mr Bailey said

“To encourage the uptake and interest in electric vehicles, the fast-charging stations are available for use at no cost for the initial phase.”

The stations fully recharge an electric vehicle in an average of 30 minutes and have been placed at 18 locations along the coast, at sites chosen to be near cafes and shops.

3 mill is so cheap these days to get something good done.

Considering that Mareeba shire is talking about spending $4.7 million on a set of traffic lights.

Nice work if you can get it.

poikilotherm said:

Just buy your prime ministership…

Your mob hedged its bets.

AwesomeO said:

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Warning: the following words may contain some irony.

What a waste of money.

For that $3 million they could have got 1/1000 of a sports stadium re-build.

Cost a fortune to move it from Qld to WA though.

I am wondering why the government is involved, if there is demand, and with the tiny sales I can’t see it, why wouldn’t commercial entities be getting onto it.

I am wondering why, in Tasmania, where the electricity is govt owned and run, they aren’t doing it.

Michael V said:

poikilotherm said:

Just buy your prime ministership…

Your mob hedged its bets.

Not really my mob considering I don’t own a pharmacy, but yes, they hedged.

sarahs mum said:

AwesomeO said:

Tamb said:

Cost a fortune to move it from Qld to WA though.

I am wondering why the government is involved, if there is demand, and with the tiny sales I can’t see it, why wouldn’t commercial entities be getting onto it.

I am wondering why, in Tasmania, where the electricity is govt owned and run, they aren’t doing it.

How many electric cars are registered in Tasmanian?

AwesomeO said:

sarahs mum said:

AwesomeO said:

I am wondering why the government is involved, if there is demand, and with the tiny sales I can’t see it, why wouldn’t commercial entities be getting onto it.

I am wondering why, in Tasmania, where the electricity is govt owned and run, they aren’t doing it.

How many electric cars are registered in Tasmanian?

Tassie would be a good spot to get electric cars going. The distances between places is too small to worry about range and they have plenty of power

The LNP hates these new fangled electric cars, pretty sure their policy is to bring back the coal fired steam engine for road travel.

Kimmel: You either do or don’t have a non-disclosure agreement. Which, if you didn’t have a non-disclosure agreement… Do you have a non-disclosure agreement?

Daniels: Do I?

Kimmel: You can’t say whether you have a non-disclosure agreement. But if you didn’t have a non-disclosure agreement, you most certainly could say you don’t have a non-disclosure agreement, yes?

Daniels: You’re so smart, Jimmy.

—-

ROFL

• I am wondering why the government is involved, if there is demand, and with the tiny sales I can’t see it, why wouldn’t commercial entities be getting onto it.

The government seems involved to remove barriers to sales of electric vehicles, thus increasing the demand for them. Once a certain point is reached, they will start charging for use – and independent operators will be offering their own alternatives…

Stumpy_seahorse said:

AwesomeO said:

sarahs mum said:

I am wondering why, in Tasmania, where the electricity is govt owned and run, they aren’t doing it.

How many electric cars are registered in Tasmanian?

Tassie would be a good spot to get electric cars going. The distances between places is too small to worry about range and they have plenty of power

It may be a great spot but if there are bugger all electric cars a case for spending money to cater for the few who have them would seem a strange set of priorities. Especially if as you say, distances are short anyway. So very possibly, not many cars, and not needed.

Oh well I guess the owners of electric cars are struggling and could do with a government handout…

poikilotherm said:

The LNP hates these new fangled electric cars, pretty sure their policy is to bring back the coal fired steam engine for road travel.

In many cases they would be coal powered.

furious said:

• I am wondering why the government is involved, if there is demand, and with the tiny sales I can’t see it, why wouldn’t commercial entities be getting onto it.

The government seems involved to remove barriers to sales of electric vehicles, thus increasing the demand for them. Once a certain point is reached, they will start charging for use – and independent operators will be offering their own alternatives…

There is no demand because they are super expensive for what you get, underpowered and short legged. If you want to encourage take up then do what other countries and subsidise the purchase.

poikilotherm said:

Michael V said:

poikilotherm said:

Just buy your prime ministership…

Your mob hedged its bets.

Not really my mob considering I don’t own a pharmacy, but yes, they hedged.

Ah. Sorry for casting nasturtiums.

AwesomeO said:

poikilotherm said:

The LNP hates these new fangled electric cars, pretty sure their policy is to bring back the coal fired steam engine for road travel.

In many cases they would be coal powered.

no shit

AwesomeO said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

AwesomeO said:

How many electric cars are registered in Tasmanian?

Tassie would be a good spot to get electric cars going. The distances between places is too small to worry about range and they have plenty of power

It may be a great spot but if there are bugger all electric cars a case for spending money to cater for the few who have them would seem a strange set of priorities. Especially if as you say, distances are short anyway. So very possibly, not many cars, and not needed.

Oh well I guess the owners of electric cars are struggling and could do with a government handout…

in 2015, there were 120 registered in Tas, reckon there would be a few more now.
Also would be a big drawcard for tourists, especially the grey nomads who are growing as a market for EVs, something cheap to run about in for their retirement

poikilotherm said:

AwesomeO said:

poikilotherm said:

The LNP hates these new fangled electric cars, pretty sure their policy is to bring back the coal fired steam engine for road travel.

In many cases they would be coal powered.

no shit

I think people do tend to forget. After all they are badged as being clean and green.

AwesomeO said:

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Warning: the following words may contain some irony.

What a waste of money.

For that $3 million they could have got 1/1000 of a sports stadium re-build.

Cost a fortune to move it from Qld to WA though.

I am wondering why the government is involved, if there is demand, and with the tiny sales I can’t see it, why wouldn’t commercial entities be getting onto it.

Same reason private companies aren’t investing in energy storage systems.

Industrial inertia and risk.

AwesomeO said:

sarahs mum said:

AwesomeO said:

I am wondering why the government is involved, if there is demand, and with the tiny sales I can’t see it, why wouldn’t commercial entities be getting onto it.

I am wondering why, in Tasmania, where the electricity is govt owned and run, they aren’t doing it.

How many electric cars are registered in Tasmanian?

Not many would be my guess. The parliament has gone out of its way to refuse to drive them. They want Mercs. The electricity meter reading cars are all hybrids.

• There is no demand because they are super expensive for what you get, underpowered and short legged.

You overcome the initial short legged issue by putting out convenient charging stations. This makes more people look at the alternative, initially the more well off would opt in but as the volume increases the costs decrease and they become ever cheaper and the demand increases in turn. I suggest that is the theory anyway…

The Rev Dodgson said:

AwesomeO said:

Tamb said:

Cost a fortune to move it from Qld to WA though.

I am wondering why the government is involved, if there is demand, and with the tiny sales I can’t see it, why wouldn’t commercial entities be getting onto it.

Same reason private companies aren’t investing in energy storage systems.

Industrial inertia and risk.

Or crunching the numbers on a return on an investment of three million, plus ongoing maintenance and not seeing a business case, which I think is far more likely.

AwesomeO said:

poikilotherm said:

AwesomeO said:

In many cases they would be coal powered.

no shit

I think people do tend to forget. After all they are badged as being clean and green.

More efficient use of similar energy, so greener.

Wonder what’s going to happen with all the dud batteries in the future.

AwesomeO said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

AwesomeO said:

I am wondering why the government is involved, if there is demand, and with the tiny sales I can’t see it, why wouldn’t commercial entities be getting onto it.

Same reason private companies aren’t investing in energy storage systems.

Industrial inertia and risk.

Or crunching the numbers on a return on an investment of three million, plus ongoing maintenance and not seeing a business case, which I think is far more likely.

How can it be more likely when that’s all part of what I said?

sarahs mum said:

AwesomeO said:

sarahs mum said:

I am wondering why, in Tasmania, where the electricity is govt owned and run, they aren’t doing it.

How many electric cars are registered in Tasmanian?

Not many would be my guess. The parliament has gone out of its way to refuse to drive them. They want Mercs. The electricity meter reading cars are all hybrids.

Things may not be so simple, big companies and I am sure state governments can run fleets at near break even or even slight profit, they buy big with good discounts and sell low mileage three year old cars. I am not sure you can do the same sums on a fleet of electric vehicles, so the result would be, to the state government its fleet would end up costing the tax payer more.

Tomorrow’s another day in crazy land.

mr kii has an appointment with the person at the PO to submit the application for his passport.

I might start digging a bunker. Grace and Daisy Mae are good at digging, they can help.

I wonder how reliable the Internet is in Australia for business and government, we get emails at least two or three times a week with a fault somewhere

Cymek said:

I wonder how reliable the Internet is in Australia for business and government, we get emails at least two or three times a week with a fault somewhere

Internal emails explaining what will be down?

Witty Rejoinder said:

Cymek said:

I wonder how reliable the Internet is in Australia for business and government, we get emails at least two or three times a week with a fault somewhere

Internal emails explaining what will be down?

Yes it covers the entire state but I wonder if that’s just normal business for the internet infrastructure in general

poikilotherm said:

AwesomeO said:

poikilotherm said:

no shit

I think people do tend to forget. After all they are badged as being clean and green.

More efficient use of similar energy, so greener.

Wonder what’s going to happen with all the dud batteries in the future.

Are electric vehicles really more efficient at using fossil fuels?

Cymek said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Cymek said:

I wonder how reliable the Internet is in Australia for business and government, we get emails at least two or three times a week with a fault somewhere

Internal emails explaining what will be down?

Yes it covers the entire state but I wonder if that’s just normal business for the internet infrastructure in general

If it is anything like my internet is at the moment, fleets of pigeons would be better.

“Internal combustion engines have thermodynamic limits on efficiency, expressed as fraction of energy used to propel the vehicle compared to energy produced by burning fuel. … Electric motors are more efficient than internal combustion engines in converting stored energy into driving a vehicle. Electric cars do not idle.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car

Michael V said:

poikilotherm said:

AwesomeO said:

I think people do tend to forget. After all they are badged as being clean and green.

More efficient use of similar energy, so greener.

Wonder what’s going to happen with all the dud batteries in the future.

Are electric vehicles really more efficient at using fossil fuels?

Apparently an EV is ~60% efficient whereas a petrol engine is ~20%.

Witty Rejoinder said:

“Internal combustion engines have thermodynamic limits on efficiency, expressed as fraction of energy used to propel the vehicle compared to energy produced by burning fuel. … Electric motors are more efficient than internal combustion engines in converting stored energy into driving a vehicle. Electric cars do not idle.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car

Yes, that’s when it reaches you car. What about the measure of hydrocarbons emitted from a coal when transmitted down a wire, stored in a battery then converted into forward motion of the car compared to hydrocarbons from petrol converted into forward motion.

Witty Rejoinder said:

“Internal combustion engines have thermodynamic limits on efficiency, expressed as fraction of energy used to propel the vehicle compared to energy produced by burning fuel. … Electric motors are more efficient than internal combustion engines in converting stored energy into driving a vehicle. Electric cars do not idle.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car

But the electricity must come from somewhere & there are line losses & recharging losses.

AwesomeO said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

“Internal combustion engines have thermodynamic limits on efficiency, expressed as fraction of energy used to propel the vehicle compared to energy produced by burning fuel. … Electric motors are more efficient than internal combustion engines in converting stored energy into driving a vehicle. Electric cars do not idle.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car

Yes, that’s when it reaches you car. What about the measure of hydrocarbons emitted from a coal when transmitted down a wire, stored in a battery then converted into forward motion of the car compared to hydrocarbons from petrol converted into forward motion.

I dunno.

AwesomeO said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

“Internal combustion engines have thermodynamic limits on efficiency, expressed as fraction of energy used to propel the vehicle compared to energy produced by burning fuel. … Electric motors are more efficient than internal combustion engines in converting stored energy into driving a vehicle. Electric cars do not idle.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car

Yes, that’s when it reaches you car. What about the measure of hydrocarbons emitted from a coal when transmitted down a wire, stored in a battery then converted into forward motion of the car compared to hydrocarbons from petrol converted into forward motion.

petrol – that uses huge diesel ships to transport, refineries etc?

it is more efficient to have a central power station, and where the transport of that energy is via wires rather than road transport, than to have individual power stations (ICE)

poikilotherm said:

AwesomeO said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

“Internal combustion engines have thermodynamic limits on efficiency, expressed as fraction of energy used to propel the vehicle compared to energy produced by burning fuel. … Electric motors are more efficient than internal combustion engines in converting stored energy into driving a vehicle. Electric cars do not idle.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car

Yes, that’s when it reaches you car. What about the measure of hydrocarbons emitted from a coal when transmitted down a wire, stored in a battery then converted into forward motion of the car compared to hydrocarbons from petrol converted into forward motion.

petrol – that uses huge diesel ships to transport, refineries etc?

It does, which is why, if you are wanting to reduce carbon emissions a comparison should include all emissions across a total lifecycle and break down to reuse and disposal.

and once more renewables are online they will be even cleaner.

Bogsnorkler said:

it is more efficient to have a central power station, and where the transport of that energy is via wires rather than road transport, than to have individual power stations (ICE)

Ultimately it will come down to a combination of legislation & convenience.

poikilotherm said:

AwesomeO said:

poikilotherm said:

no shit

I think people do tend to forget. After all they are badged as being clean and green.

More efficient use of similar energy, so greener.

Wonder what’s going to happen with all the dud batteries in the future.

recycled.

• recycled

You would hope so but us humans, in general, are pretty hopeless at that…

Michael V said:

poikilotherm said:

AwesomeO said:

I think people do tend to forget. After all they are badged as being clean and green.

More efficient use of similar energy, so greener.

Wonder what’s going to happen with all the dud batteries in the future.

Are electric vehicles really more efficient at using fossil fuels?

I think the overall efficiency of electric vs petrol cars right now is beside the point.

If we want to make large reductions in CO2 emissions, then replacing internal combustion engines with electric engines + battery storage + low emission electricity generation is a no brainer.

To implement that, we need to start introducing electric cars now, even if with the current electricity supply mix they still have high emissions overall.

furious said:

• recycled

You would hope so but us humans, in general, are pretty hopeless at that…

yeah, but these battery packs are pretty bulky and unlikely to fit in the green bin.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

poikilotherm said:

More efficient use of similar energy, so greener.

Wonder what’s going to happen with all the dud batteries in the future.

Are electric vehicles really more efficient at using fossil fuels?

I think the overall efficiency of electric vs petrol cars right now is beside the point.

If we want to make large reductions in CO2 emissions, then replacing internal combustion engines with electric engines + battery storage + low emission electricity generation is a no brainer.

To implement that, we need to start introducing electric cars now, even if with the current electricity supply mix they still have high emissions overall.

yes. the industry is still in its infancy. be interesting to see where we are in 10 years.

Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

Are electric vehicles really more efficient at using fossil fuels?

I think the overall efficiency of electric vs petrol cars right now is beside the point.

If we want to make large reductions in CO2 emissions, then replacing internal combustion engines with electric engines + battery storage + low emission electricity generation is a no brainer.

To implement that, we need to start introducing electric cars now, even if with the current electricity supply mix they still have high emissions overall.

yes. the industry is still in its infancy. be interesting to see where we are in 10 years.

you would’ve moved to the passenger seat by then…

Bogsnorkler said:

furious said:

• recycled

You would hope so but us humans, in general, are pretty hopeless at that…

yeah, but these battery packs are pretty bulky and unlikely to fit in the green bin.

How about if you don’t own the battery pack. The rent stops when it’s put in for recycling.

A quick google suggests the energy costs of producing a gallon of petrol is almost equivalent to that needed to get an EV to go as far as an ‘average’ vehicle would on that gallon of petrol. Wonder if I can find the total CO2 produced btw the two…

• How about if you don’t own the battery pack. The rent stops when it’s put in for recycling.

You could make a trade in worth the effort too…

Witty Rejoinder said:

“Internal combustion engines have thermodynamic limits on efficiency, expressed as fraction of energy used to propel the vehicle compared to energy produced by burning fuel. … Electric motors are more efficient than internal combustion engines in converting stored energy into driving a vehicle. Electric cars do not idle.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car

Whilst that is true on-vehicle, there are also the thermodynamic inefficiencies of converting coal to electricity (thermodynamic), transmission to consumer (line losses), conversion to and from battery storage (chemical thermodynamics).

Bogsnorkler said:

furious said:

• recycled

You would hope so but us humans, in general, are pretty hopeless at that…

yeah, but these battery packs are pretty bulky and unlikely to fit in the green bin.

You can wheel them to the creek in a shopping trolley.

with regards to CO2, EV comes out way ahead.

Apparently a gallon of petrol will produce 19 pounds of CO2 whereas 7Kwh for the EV from a powerplant will produce 7 pounds of CO2.

Stumpy_seahorse said:

Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I think the overall efficiency of electric vs petrol cars right now is beside the point.

If we want to make large reductions in CO2 emissions, then replacing internal combustion engines with electric engines + battery storage + low emission electricity generation is a no brainer.

To implement that, we need to start introducing electric cars now, even if with the current electricity supply mix they still have high emissions overall.

yes. the industry is still in its infancy. be interesting to see where we are in 10 years.

you would’ve moved to the passenger seat by then…

i’ll still be driving those old people around.

:-)

furious said:

• How about if you don’t own the battery pack. The rent stops when it’s put in for recycling.

You could make a trade in worth the effort too…

I would like to see battery packs interchangeable between all cars. Pull into a recharging station, slide out one pace & replace it with a fully charged one. Time taken possibly 2 minutes.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bogsnorkler said:

furious said:

• recycled

You would hope so but us humans, in general, are pretty hopeless at that…

yeah, but these battery packs are pretty bulky and unlikely to fit in the green bin.

You can wheel them to the creek in a shopping trolley.

Or if you can’t get a shopping trolley balance it on the handlebars of an obike.

Tamb said:

furious said:

• How about if you don’t own the battery pack. The rent stops when it’s put in for recycling.

You could make a trade in worth the effort too…

I would like to see battery packs interchangeable between all cars. Pull into a recharging station, slide out one pace & replace it with a fully charged one. Time taken possibly 2 minutes.

that would be the best solution. all done with computer controlled drones. well maybe not drones but all automatic.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bogsnorkler said:

furious said:

• recycled

You would hope so but us humans, in general, are pretty hopeless at that…

yeah, but these battery packs are pretty bulky and unlikely to fit in the green bin.

You can wheel them to the creek in a shopping trolley.

just got to find one without a wobbly wheel.

Bogsnorkler said:

Tamb said:

furious said:

• How about if you don’t own the battery pack. The rent stops when it’s put in for recycling.

You could make a trade in worth the effort too…

I would like to see battery packs interchangeable between all cars. Pull into a recharging station, slide out one pace & replace it with a fully charged one. Time taken possibly 2 minutes.

that would be the best solution. all done with computer controlled drones. well maybe not drones but all automatic.

What function would the drone serve?

Tamb said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Tamb said:

I would like to see battery packs interchangeable between all cars. Pull into a recharging station, slide out one pace & replace it with a fully charged one. Time taken possibly 2 minutes.

that would be the best solution. all done with computer controlled drones. well maybe not drones but all automatic.

What function would the drone serve?

i just put that is cos everything is better when drones are involved.

Bogsnorkler said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Bogsnorkler said:

yeah, but these battery packs are pretty bulky and unlikely to fit in the green bin.

You can wheel them to the creek in a shopping trolley.

just got to find one without a wobbly wheel.

Tow it to the creek behind the car.

poikilotherm said:

Michael V said:

poikilotherm said:

More efficient use of similar energy, so greener.

Wonder what’s going to happen with all the dud batteries in the future.

Are electric vehicles really more efficient at using fossil fuels?

Apparently an EV is ~60% efficient whereas a petrol engine is ~20%.

Yes, on vehicle conversion of stored energy to motive power. But there are other losses in the EV system – power plan, transmission and storage in-out. Given that burning coal is around 50% thermally efficient, that immediately brings an EV to 30% efficiency, which is now ball-park-similar to petrol. And we haven’t considered transmission line losses and storage-in conversions. I don’t know how to make those calculation (dv, help) but it seems to me that we might not have the full story.

Lot of hullabaloo in the Guardian about this Waterhouse painting of Hylas & the nymphs having been “removed” from the Manchester Art Gallery because it offends feminist sensibilities:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/jan/31/hylas-and-the-nymphs-jw—waterhouse-why-have-mildly-erotic-nymphs-been-removed-from-a-manchester-gallery-is-picasso-next

All a bit silly when you put it in its Victorian context, and even more so in the context of the original Greek myth.

poikilotherm said:

with regards to CO2, EV comes out way ahead.

Apparently a gallon of petrol will produce 19 pounds of CO2 whereas 7Kwh for the EV from a powerplant will produce 7 pounds of CO2.

So you only halve the emissions

Tamb said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Tamb said:

I would like to see battery packs interchangeable between all cars. Pull into a recharging station, slide out one pace & replace it with a fully charged one. Time taken possibly 2 minutes.

that would be the best solution. all done with computer controlled drones. well maybe not drones but all automatic.

What function would the drone serve?

Give tau-nutrieno a boner.

Tamb said:

I would like to see battery packs interchangeable between all cars. Pull into a recharging station, slide out one pace & replace it with a fully charged one. Time taken possibly 2 minutes.

Oh, yeah, that’ll happen. We only have to look at the current high standard of parts-interchangeability between different different makes of cars today.

Bogsnorkler said:

Tamb said:

Bogsnorkler said:

that would be the best solution. all done with computer controlled drones. well maybe not drones but all automatic.

What function would the drone serve?

i just put that is cos everything is better when drones are involved.

Of course it is! Silly me!!!

• Oh, yeah, that’ll happen. We only have to look at the current high standard of parts-interchangeability between different different makes of cars today.

Their batteries are interchangeable…

AwesomeO said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

“Internal combustion engines have thermodynamic limits on efficiency, expressed as fraction of energy used to propel the vehicle compared to energy produced by burning fuel. … Electric motors are more efficient than internal combustion engines in converting stored energy into driving a vehicle. Electric cars do not idle.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car

Yes, that’s when it reaches you car. What about the measure of hydrocarbons emitted from a coal when transmitted down a wire, stored in a battery then converted into forward motion of the car compared to hydrocarbons from petrol converted into forward motion.

Yes, that’s my thought, too.

(Sorry it takes so long for me to reply – internets here are very slow and very flakey.)

Tamb said:

furious said:

• How about if you don’t own the battery pack. The rent stops when it’s put in for recycling.

You could make a trade in worth the effort too…

I would like to see battery packs interchangeable between all cars. Pull into a recharging station, slide out one pace & replace it with a fully charged one. Time taken possibly 2 minutes.

Most of the manufacturers for packaging and to keep the wieght low are installing them in the floor pans. I guess you could have two designs to allow a bit of manufacturing flexibility. I envisage a future battery station to look a bit like a car wash, you drive in to which ever is relevant to your car design, the track centres your car and pulls you forward then it all happens invisibly as your car moves through the station.

That’s probably the best way you could sell it and most efficient way of doing it.

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

I would like to see battery packs interchangeable between all cars. Pull into a recharging station, slide out one pace & replace it with a fully charged one. Time taken possibly 2 minutes.

Oh, yeah, that’ll happen. We only have to look at the current high standard of parts-interchangeability between different different makes of cars today.

hey, a lot of part will just bolt straight in. every mechanic knows that.

Peak Warming Man said:

poikilotherm said:

with regards to CO2, EV comes out way ahead.

Apparently a gallon of petrol will produce 19 pounds of CO2 whereas 7Kwh for the EV from a powerplant will produce 7 pounds of CO2.

So you only halve the emissions

Hardly worth the effort. Just like when my accountant asked if i’d like to halve my tax bill. “Oh, why bother…”, i said.

Bubblecar said:

Lot of hullabaloo in the Guardian about this Waterhouse painting of Hylas & the nymphs having been “removed” from the Manchester Art Gallery because it offends feminist sensibilities:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/jan/31/hylas-and-the-nymphs-jw—waterhouse-why-have-mildly-erotic-nymphs-been-removed-from-a-manchester-gallery-is-picasso-next

All a bit silly when you put it in its Victorian context, and even more so in the context of the original Greek myth.

Tamb said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

“Internal combustion engines have thermodynamic limits on efficiency, expressed as fraction of energy used to propel the vehicle compared to energy produced by burning fuel. … Electric motors are more efficient than internal combustion engines in converting stored energy into driving a vehicle. Electric cars do not idle.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car

But the electricity must come from somewhere & there are line losses & recharging losses.

Yes.

furious said:

• Oh, yeah, that’ll happen. We only have to look at the current high standard of parts-interchangeability between different different makes of cars today.

Their batteries are interchangeable…

They’ll not let something like that happen again.

Bubblecar said:

Lot of hullabaloo in the Guardian about this Waterhouse painting of Hylas & the nymphs having been “removed” from the Manchester Art Gallery because it offends feminist sensibilities:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/jan/31/hylas-and-the-nymphs-jw—waterhouse-why-have-mildly-erotic-nymphs-been-removed-from-a-manchester-gallery-is-picasso-next

All a bit silly when you put it in its Victorian context, and even more so in the context of the original Greek myth.

Madness. Idiotic.

Bubblecar said:

Lot of hullabaloo in the Guardian about this Waterhouse painting of Hylas & the nymphs having been “removed” from the Manchester Art Gallery because it offends feminist sensibilities:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/jan/31/hylas-and-the-nymphs-jw—waterhouse-why-have-mildly-erotic-nymphs-been-removed-from-a-manchester-gallery-is-picasso-next

All a bit silly when you put it in its Victorian context, and even more so in the context of the original Greek myth.

Fucking madness.

Michael V said:

AussieDJ said:

Michael V said:

Excitement. I get to make a new chat thread for the first time!

:)

Ahem.

Sorry MV, but I beat you to the (pinch and a) punch this time.

Thread before this one is called ‘The “Once in a Blue Moon’ February chat’.

:)

Sorry. I missed that.

:(

Not to worry … both threads will get posted in at some stage.

http://www.theage.com.au/technology/sci-tech/nasa-finds-signs-ancient-life-at-last—in-its-own-backyard-20180201-h0rsfw.html

Bogsnorkler said:

hey, a lot of part will just bolt straight in. every mechanic knows that.

True. And it’s only got to get them to the next repairer, after all.

poikilotherm said:

AwesomeO said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

“Internal combustion engines have thermodynamic limits on efficiency, expressed as fraction of energy used to propel the vehicle compared to energy produced by burning fuel. … Electric motors are more efficient than internal combustion engines in converting stored energy into driving a vehicle. Electric cars do not idle.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car

Yes, that’s when it reaches you car. What about the measure of hydrocarbons emitted from a coal when transmitted down a wire, stored in a battery then converted into forward motion of the car compared to hydrocarbons from petrol converted into forward motion.

petrol – that uses huge diesel ships to transport, refineries etc?

Yes. Which is why I’d like to see the entire calculation, rather than just the on-vehicle calculation.

Tamb said:

furious said:

• How about if you don’t own the battery pack. The rent stops when it’s put in for recycling.

You could make a trade in worth the effort too…

I would like to see battery packs interchangeable between all cars. Pull into a recharging station, slide out one pace & replace it with a fully charged one. Time taken possibly 2 minutes.

They do it with gas cylinders, so why not batteries?

Bubblecar said:

Lot of hullabaloo in the Guardian about this Waterhouse painting of Hylas & the nymphs having been “removed” from the Manchester Art Gallery because it offends feminist sensibilities:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/jan/31/hylas-and-the-nymphs-jw—waterhouse-why-have-mildly-erotic-nymphs-been-removed-from-a-manchester-gallery-is-picasso-next

All a bit silly when you put it in its Victorian context, and even more so in the context of the original Greek myth.

yep. silly.

PermeateFree said:

Tamb said:

furious said:

• How about if you don’t own the battery pack. The rent stops when it’s put in for recycling.

You could make a trade in worth the effort too…

I would like to see battery packs interchangeable between all cars. Pull into a recharging station, slide out one pace & replace it with a fully charged one. Time taken possibly 2 minutes.

They do it with gas cylinders, so why not batteries?

For the same reason that printer manufacturers don’t use one standardised type of ink cartridge.

I drive environmentally friendly my house boy in Fiji pulls me around in a rickshaw and is powered by my leftover food

Bubblecar said:

Lot of hullabaloo in the Guardian about this Waterhouse painting of Hylas & the nymphs having been “removed” from the Manchester Art Gallery because it offends feminist sensibilities:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/jan/31/hylas-and-the-nymphs-jw—waterhouse-why-have-mildly-erotic-nymphs-been-removed-from-a-manchester-gallery-is-picasso-next

All a bit silly when you put it in its Victorian context, and even more so in the context of the original Greek myth.

What are they going to do with him?

captain_spalding said:

For the same reason that printer manufacturers don’t use one standardised type of ink cartridge.

Ahhhh… conspiracy.

taps nose

• For the same reason that printer manufacturers don’t use one standardised type of ink cartridge.

The paper is somewhat standardised though…

Elvis_Rieu said:

I drive environmentally friendly my house boy in Fiji pulls me around in a rickshaw and is powered by my leftover food

I hope you all poop in the vege patch.

• I drive environmentally friendly my house boy in Fiji pulls me around in a rickshaw

While he is doing that, who is driving?

PermeateFree said:

Bubblecar said:

Lot of hullabaloo in the Guardian about this Waterhouse painting of Hylas & the nymphs having been “removed” from the Manchester Art Gallery because it offends feminist sensibilities:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/jan/31/hylas-and-the-nymphs-jw—waterhouse-why-have-mildly-erotic-nymphs-been-removed-from-a-manchester-gallery-is-picasso-next

All a bit silly when you put it in its Victorian context, and even more so in the context of the original Greek myth.

What are they going to do with him?

Most likely nothing. As an ancient Greek, it’s short odds on him being gay.

Waste of a bloody good daydream, there.

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

For the same reason that printer manufacturers don’t use one standardised type of ink cartridge.

Ahhhh… conspiracy.

taps nose

No, business sense, what kind of moron wants their product usable with a cheaper alternative?

furious said:

• For the same reason that printer manufacturers don’t use one standardised type of ink cartridge.

The paper is somewhat standardised though…

Yes. World A4. USA foolscap.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Lot of hullabaloo in the Guardian about this Waterhouse painting of Hylas & the nymphs having been “removed” from the Manchester Art Gallery because it offends feminist sensibilities:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/jan/31/hylas-and-the-nymphs-jw—waterhouse-why-have-mildly-erotic-nymphs-been-removed-from-a-manchester-gallery-is-picasso-next

All a bit silly when you put it in its Victorian context, and even more so in the context of the original Greek myth.

Fucking madness.

It appears to be mostly a publicity stunt. Apparently it’s only been temporarily taken down to start a “conversation” about the way women are depicted in art etc.

But the misunderstanding seems to be that this painting was done to gratify “the male gaze”, when it’s more a pretty picture concocted so as to be acceptable to the respectable (but romantic) female gaze of the time.

The painting has very little to do with the original Greek story which was more about poor old Heracles than Hylas (his beautiful boyfriend), and even less about the nymphs.

Peak Warming Man said:

poikilotherm said:

with regards to CO2, EV comes out way ahead.

Apparently a gallon of petrol will produce 19 pounds of CO2 whereas 7Kwh for the EV from a powerplant will produce 7 pounds of CO2.

So you only halve the emissions

heh

only

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

poikilotherm said:

More efficient use of similar energy, so greener.

Wonder what’s going to happen with all the dud batteries in the future.

Are electric vehicles really more efficient at using fossil fuels?

I think the overall efficiency of electric vs petrol cars right now is beside the point.

If we want to make large reductions in CO2 emissions, then replacing internal combustion engines with electric engines + battery storage + low emission electricity generation is a no brainer.

To implement that, we need to start introducing electric cars now, even if with the current electricity supply mix they still have high emissions overall.

That sounds very fair.

What are the figures?

And if we go down that path, low emission electricity generation has to include the energy and emissions cost of manufacture of solar panels, wind generators etc.

captain_spalding said:

PermeateFree said:

Bubblecar said:

Lot of hullabaloo in the Guardian about this Waterhouse painting of Hylas & the nymphs having been “removed” from the Manchester Art Gallery because it offends feminist sensibilities:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/jan/31/hylas-and-the-nymphs-jw—waterhouse-why-have-mildly-erotic-nymphs-been-removed-from-a-manchester-gallery-is-picasso-next

All a bit silly when you put it in its Victorian context, and even more so in the context of the original Greek myth.

What are they going to do with him?

Most likely nothing. As an ancient Greek, it’s short odds on him being gay.

Waste of a bloody good daydream, there.

They’re in a pond. Would that make it a wet dream?

furious said:

• I drive environmentally friendly my house boy in Fiji pulls me around in a rickshaw

While he is doing that, who is driving?

I steer him and whip him to slow down or speed up

captain_spalding said:

PermeateFree said:

Bubblecar said:

Lot of hullabaloo in the Guardian about this Waterhouse painting of Hylas & the nymphs having been “removed” from the Manchester Art Gallery because it offends feminist sensibilities:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/jan/31/hylas-and-the-nymphs-jw—waterhouse-why-have-mildly-erotic-nymphs-been-removed-from-a-manchester-gallery-is-picasso-next

All a bit silly when you put it in its Victorian context, and even more so in the context of the original Greek myth.

What are they going to do with him?

Most likely nothing. As an ancient Greek, it’s short odds on him being gay.

Waste of a bloody good daydream, there.

he was kidnapped.

Hylas was kidnapped by nymphs of the spring of Pegae, Dryope, that fell in love with him in Mysia and vanished without a trace (Apollonios Rhodios).

Tamb said:

Bogsnorkler said:

furious said:

• recycled

You would hope so but us humans, in general, are pretty hopeless at that…

yeah, but these battery packs are pretty bulky and unlikely to fit in the green bin.

How about if you don’t own the battery pack. The rent stops when it’s put in for recycling.

That’s a fair idea. I wonder why that’s not happening?

Tamb said:

Elvis_Rieu said:

I drive environmentally friendly my house boy in Fiji pulls me around in a rickshaw and is powered by my leftover food

I hope you all poop in the vege patch.

I do. And if my neighbour ever catches me at it, there’ll be a right hullabaloo.

poikilotherm said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

For the same reason that printer manufacturers don’t use one standardised type of ink cartridge.

Ahhhh… conspiracy.

taps nose

No, business sense, what kind of moron wants their product usable with a cheaper alternative?

Even Steve Jobs saw the need for itunes on PCs.

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

Are electric vehicles really more efficient at using fossil fuels?

I think the overall efficiency of electric vs petrol cars right now is beside the point.

If we want to make large reductions in CO2 emissions, then replacing internal combustion engines with electric engines + battery storage + low emission electricity generation is a no brainer.

To implement that, we need to start introducing electric cars now, even if with the current electricity supply mix they still have high emissions overall.

That sounds very fair.

What are the figures?

And if we go down that path, low emission electricity generation has to include the energy and emissions cost of manufacture of solar panels, wind generators etc.

which will get lower as the manufacturing of SP and WT etc is powered by more renewables.

captain_spalding said:

PermeateFree said:

Bubblecar said:

Lot of hullabaloo in the Guardian about this Waterhouse painting of Hylas & the nymphs having been “removed” from the Manchester Art Gallery because it offends feminist sensibilities:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/jan/31/hylas-and-the-nymphs-jw—waterhouse-why-have-mildly-erotic-nymphs-been-removed-from-a-manchester-gallery-is-picasso-next

All a bit silly when you put it in its Victorian context, and even more so in the context of the original Greek myth.

What are they going to do with him?

Most likely nothing. As an ancient Greek, it’s short odds on him being gay.

Waste of a bloody good daydream, there.

Good point.

• Even Steve Jobs saw the need for itunes on PCs.

But couldn’t bring himself to use a standardised USB port…

… Well, I don’t care if you tell me you’re married
Cause I can be your man when your husband ain’t home
Now if he should walk in you just tell him I’m your houseboy
And that you just can’t stand to sleep here alone…no more …

poikilotherm said:

with regards to CO2, EV comes out way ahead.

Apparently a gallon of petrol will produce 19 pounds of CO2 whereas 7Kwh for the EV from a powerplant will produce 7 pounds of CO2.

Thanks.

furious said:

• Even Steve Jobs saw the need for itunes on PCs.

But couldn’t bring himself to use a standardised USB port…

Standardised now though.

Witty Rejoinder said:

poikilotherm said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Ahhhh… conspiracy.

taps nose

No, business sense, what kind of moron wants their product usable with a cheaper alternative?

Even Steve Jobs saw the need for itunes on PCs.

not sure I’d call itunes a product as such, it’s more a platform to buy stuff. iPhones don’t run Android OS…

Michael V said:

poikilotherm said:

with regards to CO2, EV comes out way ahead.

Apparently a gallon of petrol will produce 19 pounds of CO2 whereas 7Kwh for the EV from a powerplant will produce 7 pounds of CO2.

Thanks.

That’s just end use – so burning the gallon of petrol in the car vs using the powerplant energy in the car. Didn’t include ‘total’ CO2 production/energy costs – that seems balls hard to come up with (or at least, longer than 5 minutes googling).

poikilotherm said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

poikilotherm said:

No, business sense, what kind of moron wants their product usable with a cheaper alternative?

Even Steve Jobs saw the need for itunes on PCs.

not sure I’d call itunes a product as such, it’s more a platform to buy stuff. iPhones don’t run Android OS…

iTunes is the work of the devil

Bogsnorkler said:

captain_spalding said:

PermeateFree said:

What are they going to do with him?

Most likely nothing. As an ancient Greek, it’s short odds on him being gay.

Waste of a bloody good daydream, there.

he was kidnapped.

Hylas was kidnapped by nymphs of the spring of Pegae, Dryope, that fell in love with him in Mysia and vanished without a trace (Apollonios Rhodios).

Suppose they could have been transgender, you never know what lies under the water.

Cymek said:

poikilotherm said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Even Steve Jobs saw the need for itunes on PCs.

not sure I’d call itunes a product as such, it’s more a platform to buy stuff. iPhones don’t run Android OS…

iTunes is the work of the devil

I feel that way about Steve Jobs too.

Elvis_Rieu said:

I drive environmentally friendly my house boy in Fiji pulls me around in a rickshaw and is powered by my leftover food

snigger

For those lamenting the hiding of the nymphs, more Waterhouse here:

Tam Lin

+ Maddy Prior and the rest of Steeleye Span

Bogsnorkler said:

he was kidnapped.

Hylas was kidnapped by nymphs of the spring of Pegae, Dryope, that fell in love with him in Mysia and vanished without a trace (Apollonios Rhodios).

Yes. For the Greeks it was a simple parable: if you’re a mature man and you fall for the charms of a beautiful youth, and he’s willing to become your companion, then go for it. But don’t become too besotted, as eventually he’ll be dragged away by some woman and you’ll be left despondent.

Heracles did take the relationship too seriously and paid a heavy price (being abandoned by the Argo as he searched in vain for Hylas, never to find him).

The Rev Dodgson said:

For those lamenting the hiding of the nymphs, more Waterhouse here:

Tam Lin

+ Maddy Prior and the rest of Steeleye Span

:)

Bubblecar said:

Bogsnorkler said:

he was kidnapped.

Hylas was kidnapped by nymphs of the spring of Pegae, Dryope, that fell in love with him in Mysia and vanished without a trace (Apollonios Rhodios).

Yes. For the Greeks it was a simple parable: if you’re a mature man and you fall for the charms of a beautiful youth, and he’s willing to become your companion, then go for it. But don’t become too besotted, as eventually he’ll be dragged away by some woman and you’ll be left despondent.

Heracles did take the relationship too seriously and paid a heavy price (being abandoned by the Argo as he searched in vain for Hylas, never to find him).

Happened to me, I feel in love with a young astronaut and he with me a NASA consultant but alas it was not be as he fell for the charms of a blonde haired vixen and left me

Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I think the overall efficiency of electric vs petrol cars right now is beside the point.

If we want to make large reductions in CO2 emissions, then replacing internal combustion engines with electric engines + battery storage + low emission electricity generation is a no brainer.

To implement that, we need to start introducing electric cars now, even if with the current electricity supply mix they still have high emissions overall.

That sounds very fair.

What are the figures?

And if we go down that path, low emission electricity generation has to include the energy and emissions cost of manufacture of solar panels, wind generators etc.

which will get lower as the manufacturing of SP and WT etc is powered by more renewables.

Nice assertion.

Elvis_Rieu said:

Bubblecar said:

Bogsnorkler said:

he was kidnapped.

Hylas was kidnapped by nymphs of the spring of Pegae, Dryope, that fell in love with him in Mysia and vanished without a trace (Apollonios Rhodios).

Yes. For the Greeks it was a simple parable: if you’re a mature man and you fall for the charms of a beautiful youth, and he’s willing to become your companion, then go for it. But don’t become too besotted, as eventually he’ll be dragged away by some woman and you’ll be left despondent.

Heracles did take the relationship too seriously and paid a heavy price (being abandoned by the Argo as he searched in vain for Hylas, never to find him).

Happened to me, I feel in love with a young astronaut and he with me a NASA consultant but alas it was not be as he fell for the charms of a blonde haired vixen and left me

A likely story.

Bubblecar said:

Elvis_Rieu said:

Bubblecar said:

Yes. For the Greeks it was a simple parable: if you’re a mature man and you fall for the charms of a beautiful youth, and he’s willing to become your companion, then go for it. But don’t become too besotted, as eventually he’ll be dragged away by some woman and you’ll be left despondent.

Heracles did take the relationship too seriously and paid a heavy price (being abandoned by the Argo as he searched in vain for Hylas, never to find him).

Happened to me, I feel in love with a young astronaut and he with me a NASA consultant but alas it was not be as he fell for the charms of a blonde haired vixen and left me

A likely story.

Tis true even Mrs Rieu doesn’t know

poikilotherm said:

Michael V said:

poikilotherm said:

with regards to CO2, EV comes out way ahead.

Apparently a gallon of petrol will produce 19 pounds of CO2 whereas 7Kwh for the EV from a powerplant will produce 7 pounds of CO2.

Thanks.

That’s just end use – so burning the gallon of petrol in the car vs using the powerplant energy in the car. Didn’t include ‘total’ CO2 production/energy costs – that seems balls hard to come up with (or at least, longer than 5 minutes googling).

Ha! 5 minutes googling wouldn’t get me any results. It’d get me two posts here, I’d think. I’d guess the energy (read: CO2) to produce coal and get it to a power station would be a bit higher, but probably not markedly higher than petrol.

I think the Rev’s argument is sensible. But I’d like to see figures around that (energy density required for smelting silicon metal, copper, aluminium etc. Could that be met by batteries and/or dams?

The Rev Dodgson said:

For those lamenting the hiding of the nymphs, more Waterhouse here:

Tam Lin

+ Maddy Prior and the rest of Steeleye Span

ta.

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Lot of hullabaloo in the Guardian about this Waterhouse painting of Hylas & the nymphs having been “removed” from the Manchester Art Gallery because it offends feminist sensibilities:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/jan/31/hylas-and-the-nymphs-jw—waterhouse-why-have-mildly-erotic-nymphs-been-removed-from-a-manchester-gallery-is-picasso-next

All a bit silly when you put it in its Victorian context, and even more so in the context of the original Greek myth.

Fucking madness.

It appears to be mostly a publicity stunt. Apparently it’s only been temporarily taken down to start a “conversation” about the way women are depicted in art etc.

But the misunderstanding seems to be that this painting was done to gratify “the male gaze”, when it’s more a pretty picture concocted so as to be acceptable to the respectable (but romantic) female gaze of the time.

The painting has very little to do with the original Greek story which was more about poor old Heracles than Hylas (his beautiful boyfriend), and even less about the nymphs.

The Drum is discussing it tomorrow.

And home from work.

buffy said:

And home from work.

Thought you’d retired?

Is poik around? My Lyme disease lady has made an appointment. I may have to practice my straight face a few times before she visits next week. I wonder what she will have discovered to have this time.

buffy said:

Is poik around? My Lyme disease lady has made an appointment. I may have to practice my straight face a few times before she visits next week. I wonder what she will have discovered to have this time.

Is this one of those “Aussie Lime Diseasers”? Or someone who has been to Europe/America, etc?

The Rev Dodgson said:

For those lamenting the hiding of the nymphs, more Waterhouse here:

Tam Lin

+ Maddy Prior and the rest of Steeleye Span

That’s uh…………..pretty ordinary.

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

For those lamenting the hiding of the nymphs, more Waterhouse here:

Tam Lin

+ Maddy Prior and the rest of Steeleye Span

That’s uh…………..pretty ordinary.

It’s Steeleye Span, you can’t expect ABBA.

AwesomeO said:

The Drum is discussing it tomorrow.

Oh, good, we’ll have the politically-correct version of things then.

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

For those lamenting the hiding of the nymphs, more Waterhouse here:

Tam Lin

+ Maddy Prior and the rest of Steeleye Span

That’s uh…………..pretty ordinary.

It’s Steeleye Span, you can’t expect ABBA.

NOBODY expects ABBA!

“A “talking” killer whale that says “hello”, “bye bye” and counts “one, two” is thought to be the first to be taught to mimic the human voice through her blowhole.” – ABC News

I was going to say something about some humans who already seem to talk through their blowholes, but, no, leave it alone…

captain_spalding said:

“A “talking” killer whale that says “hello”, “bye bye” and counts “one, two” is thought to be the first to be taught to mimic the human voice through her blowhole.” – ABC News

I was going to say something about some humans who already seem to talk through their blowholes, but, no, leave it alone…

smile

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

And home from work.

Thought you’d retired?

Still working 3 days a week. Don’t retire for another 18 months. I’m a planner.

Michael V said:

buffy said:

Is poik around? My Lyme disease lady has made an appointment. I may have to practice my straight face a few times before she visits next week. I wonder what she will have discovered to have this time.

Is this one of those “Aussie Lime Diseasers”? Or someone who has been to Europe/America, etc?

An Aussie one. She’s rather prone to looking for diseases of all sorts. Consultations with her involve a lot of listening on my part.

Hello.

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

For those lamenting the hiding of the nymphs, more Waterhouse here:

Tam Lin

+ Maddy Prior and the rest of Steeleye Span

That’s uh…………..pretty ordinary.

It’s Steeleye Span, you can’t expect ABBA.

You are both mad.

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

And home from work.

Thought you’d retired?

Still working 3 days a week. Don’t retire for another 18 months. I’m a planner.

Fair enough. I’ve come to expect that.