Date: 4/02/2018 19:49:21
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1184200
Subject: No such thing as a perfect dog?
Big dogs require a lot of space and a lot of daily walking.
According to scientific research , https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201507/behavior-differences-between-smaller-and-larger-dogs small dogs are more excitable, more aggressive, harder to train, more anxious and fearful.
So if you want a dog as a pet – don’t get one?
Date: 4/02/2018 19:57:40
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1184201
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
Damn, I was looking forward to getting another rescue dog and giving it a good home.
Bugger.
Date: 4/02/2018 20:00:13
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1184202
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
Peak Warming Man said:
Damn, I was looking forward to getting another rescue dog and giving it a good home.
Bugger.
get a small or large without legs.
Date: 4/02/2018 20:06:48
From: buffy
ID: 1184203
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
I wonder if these are the same researchers who declared that dogs don’t like being hugged.
Date: 4/02/2018 20:08:13
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1184204
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
mollwollfumble said:
Big dogs require a lot of space and a lot of daily walking.
According to scientific research , https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201507/behavior-differences-between-smaller-and-larger-dogs small dogs are more excitable, more aggressive, harder to train, more anxious and fearful.
So if you want a dog as a pet – don’t get one?

Date: 4/02/2018 20:11:10
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1184205
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
My dog (springer spaniel) was weighed by the vet who said that after all the years of her being a vet this was the first average dog she had weighed. (20kg) So Cobbett is bang in the middle of this study.
He mostly does things right. Except things like if you throw him a ball he will catch it and take it and put it in his bed. It is a different game that he is playing. He is more than willing to do tricks for visitors. He will bark at strangers. But he will stop if you tell him who the visitor is..
He isn’t aggressive (and he is a full male.)
Date: 4/02/2018 20:12:14
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1184206
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
PermeateFree said:
mollwollfumble said:
Big dogs require a lot of space and a lot of daily walking.
According to scientific research , https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201507/behavior-differences-between-smaller-and-larger-dogs small dogs are more excitable, more aggressive, harder to train, more anxious and fearful.
So if you want a dog as a pet – don’t get one?

I thought great danes needed little exercise…
Date: 4/02/2018 20:16:16
From: buffy
ID: 1184207
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
From the link:
“The first behavioral dimension tested had to do with dog obedience. Owners were asked whether their dog reliably obeys the commands “sit”, “down”, “heel”, and the “come” when off leash.”
This is entirely dependent on what training the handler and the dog have had. In my opinion, size is pretty irrelevent. A large dog or a small dog, in the hands of a handler who knows what they are doing, will behave just the same regardless of size.
Date: 4/02/2018 20:17:18
From: buffy
ID: 1184208
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
“The second behavior component that they analyzed was called aggression and excitability. Typical behaviors which they looked at included whether the dog growled, snapped or barked at dogs, or at visitors to the home, or at strangers in the street, or at family members. They also determined whether the dog typically fights with other dogs, barks at or pursues joggers or cyclists, is excitable when the doorbell rings or when other dogs are seen. Other items looked at whether the dog guarded its food or other objects, and a variety of other similar behaviors. Once again the results were unambiguous with the smaller dogs showing more aggression and excitability to a significant degree.”
This is all training too.
Date: 4/02/2018 20:17:36
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1184209
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
buffy said:
From the link:
“The first behavioral dimension tested had to do with dog obedience. Owners were asked whether their dog reliably obeys the commands “sit”, “down”, “heel”, and the “come” when off leash.”
This is entirely dependent on what training the handler and the dog have had. In my opinion, size is pretty irrelevent. A large dog or a small dog, in the hands of a handler who knows what they are doing, will behave just the same regardless of size.
What about jack Russells?
Date: 4/02/2018 20:18:00
From: buffy
ID: 1184210
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
“The third behavior component that they looked at was called anxiety and fearfulness. This included owner’s ratings of whether their dogs showed behaviors such as, anxiety in unknown situations, fearfulness when exposed to loud noises like traffic or fireworks, is afraid of unknown humans, dogs, or crowds, seems restless and unable to relax, or frequently shows various body signs of anxiety such as lowered body posture, panting, salivation and trembling. Once again there was a significant difference based upon the size of the dogs, with the smaller dogs being significantly more fearful and anxious.”
And more training.
Date: 4/02/2018 20:19:07
From: buffy
ID: 1184211
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
“The data from this study shows that the more consistent the owner’s behaviors are the better the dogs’ obedience behaviors are regardless of their size. “
Date: 4/02/2018 20:20:45
From: buffy
ID: 1184212
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
“A number of studies have shown that the use of punishment has negative effects on the dog’s training success and on emotionally-based responses such as anxiety and aggression”
This would be why animal training of all types has been reward based for many years now.
Date: 4/02/2018 20:21:21
From: party_pants
ID: 1184213
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
mollwollfumble said:
Big dogs require a lot of space and a lot of daily walking.
According to scientific research , https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201507/behavior-differences-between-smaller-and-larger-dogs small dogs are more excitable, more aggressive, harder to train, more anxious and fearful.
So if you want a dog as a pet – don’t get one?
Yep. Strategy which has worked out well for me.
Date: 4/02/2018 20:21:50
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1184214
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
AwesomeO said:
buffy said:
From the link:
“The first behavioral dimension tested had to do with dog obedience. Owners were asked whether their dog reliably obeys the commands “sit”, “down”, “heel”, and the “come” when off leash.”
This is entirely dependent on what training the handler and the dog have had. In my opinion, size is pretty irrelevent. A large dog or a small dog, in the hands of a handler who knows what they are doing, will behave just the same regardless of size.
What about jack Russells?
quotes buffy
training.
Date: 4/02/2018 20:22:35
From: buffy
ID: 1184215
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
I should have looked at the name at the top. I don’t have much regard for Coren. He’s in my ratbag file.
Date: 4/02/2018 20:30:19
From: buffy
ID: 1184216
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
AwesomeO said:
buffy said:
From the link:
“The first behavioral dimension tested had to do with dog obedience. Owners were asked whether their dog reliably obeys the commands “sit”, “down”, “heel”, and the “come” when off leash.”
This is entirely dependent on what training the handler and the dog have had. In my opinion, size is pretty irrelevent. A large dog or a small dog, in the hands of a handler who knows what they are doing, will behave just the same regardless of size.
What about jack Russells?
Do you want me to give the little talk I used to give to my puppy classes. “You have to think about what your dog was bred for. Terriers are independent dogs, mousers. So you have to get them to love you. And you have to be very, very consistent with them. But they can be trained. They will always, always be distractable because they have a high prey drive. So you have to factor that in. “ I also told my classes that my dogs are always onlead when off my property. Because I can’t stand the thought of seeing them squashed (yes, that is how I put it to them). And because all dogs can be distracted while out on a walk. So I told them that they were welcome to off lead their dogs when out, but be prepared for consequences. It’s not a risk I take.
Date: 4/02/2018 20:30:54
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1184217
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
mollwollfumble said:
Big dogs require a lot of space and a lot of daily walking.
According to scientific research , https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201507/behavior-differences-between-smaller-and-larger-dogs small dogs are more excitable, more aggressive, harder to train, more anxious and fearful.
So if you want a dog as a pet – don’t get one?
What a sizist paper.
We have a spoodle, about 8kg. Very enthusiastic and friendly, not a milligram of aggression, very eager to please, and not at all worried by big dogs.
Date: 4/02/2018 20:33:10
From: sibeen
ID: 1184219
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
The Rev Dodgson said:
mollwollfumble said:
Big dogs require a lot of space and a lot of daily walking.
According to scientific research , https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201507/behavior-differences-between-smaller-and-larger-dogs small dogs are more excitable, more aggressive, harder to train, more anxious and fearful.
So if you want a dog as a pet – don’t get one?
What a sizist paper.
We have a spoodle, about 8kg. Very enthusiastic and friendly, not a milligram of aggression, very eager to please, and not at all worried by big dogs.
I have a spanador. Lovely looking dog. As thick as a bag of rocks.
Date: 4/02/2018 20:36:32
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1184220
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
I had a red cloud. very good natured. bit overly fetch the whatever all the time kinda dog. better when i lived near the coast and it had plenty of room to run around.
Date: 4/02/2018 20:37:41
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1184221
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
The Rev Dodgson said:
mollwollfumble said:
Big dogs require a lot of space and a lot of daily walking.
According to scientific research , https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201507/behavior-differences-between-smaller-and-larger-dogs small dogs are more excitable, more aggressive, harder to train, more anxious and fearful.
So if you want a dog as a pet – don’t get one?
What a sizist paper.
We have a spoodle, about 8kg. Very enthusiastic and friendly, not a milligram of aggression, very eager to please, and not at all worried by big dogs.
I do like spoodles.
Date: 4/02/2018 20:47:56
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1184222
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
this is a pretty good look-a-like to mine. She was a solid colour but her “mane” or ruff, would get bleached over summer.

Date: 4/02/2018 21:00:14
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1184224
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
Going to the vets

Date: 4/02/2018 21:11:49
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1184227
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
PermeateFree said:
Going to the vets

aw.
Date: 4/02/2018 21:20:07
From: KJW
ID: 1184231
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
Date: 4/02/2018 23:36:09
From: Speedy
ID: 1184272
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
Bogsnorkler said:
this is a pretty good look-a-like to mine. She was a solid colour but her “mane” or ruff, would get bleached over summer.

Same as our Scarlett too, whose eyes are more amber.
Date: 5/02/2018 00:29:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1184277
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
Without reading anything anyone said.
The problem with dogs is all about the people who think they own them without even laying the footsteps towards that.
Date: 5/02/2018 05:52:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1184288
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
If you’re going to get a dog of any kind, remember that they are very much “companion animals”. They’re not the sort of pets you can set & forget. They need company and attention.
Also, some are much more demanding of company and attention than others. You may find them taking over your life in ways that are not agreeable.
As buffy says, they can be trained to be less demanding but this too takes time and effort, and doesn’t necessarily result in a contented dog.
Date: 5/02/2018 08:08:05
From: Tamb
ID: 1184294
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
mollwollfumble said:
Big dogs require a lot of space and a lot of daily walking.
According to scientific research , https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201507/behavior-differences-between-smaller-and-larger-dogs small dogs are more excitable, more aggressive, harder to train, more anxious and fearful.
So if you want a dog as a pet – don’t get one?
Rubbish.
Pekes are anything but excitable, more aggressive, harder to train, more anxious and fearful. Not that I’d want one.
Chihuahuas are a bit yappy but are none of the other things & they have the great advantage of being portable.
Date: 5/02/2018 08:20:50
From: ruby
ID: 1184297
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
Not a great article.
I’ll be Goldilocks and say that having owned dogs from Jack Russell size to small pony size, medium sized dogs are the best. Border collies for the win!
I wonder if small dog problems come from them being able to be picked up easily. And they are more liable to be allowed onto laps and chairs and beds. Perhaps that disturbs their dog senses.
Date: 5/02/2018 08:43:47
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1184301
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
Friendliest dog I’ve ever known was also medium-sized, a female orange-&-white Australian cattle dog mix.
She was always submissive and affectionate towards people including strangers.
But for most of her life she was also a very energetic, exercise-loving dog. Don’t get one of these unless you’re looking to do a lot of running around with chasing games, going for long walks etc.
If left without company and exercise, dogs of this kind will soon start literally chewing the scenery.
Date: 5/02/2018 08:52:48
From: ruby
ID: 1184306
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
Bubblecar said:
Friendliest dog I’ve ever known was also medium-sized, a female orange-&-white Australian cattle dog mix.
She was always submissive and affectionate towards people including strangers.
But for most of her life she was also a very energetic, exercise-loving dog. Don’t get one of these unless you’re looking to do a lot of running around with chasing games, going for long walks etc.
If left without company and exercise, dogs of this kind will soon start literally chewing the scenery.
The beach where I take my dog is an off lead one, so I get to see a large range of dogs and owners. There are several cattle dogs and a couple of kelpies, and all but two of them are in need of constant action, and will do things to get reactions, very wearing dogs. But the calmer two have very dog oriented owners.
Date: 5/02/2018 09:54:19
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1184322
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
Pfft. Great Danes are happy to lie on a couch and sleep all day. Jasmine is classed as a big dog too, she’s happy sleeping in the shower. She does like walks but her legs aren’t up to it anymore.
Date: 5/02/2018 11:58:42
From: transition
ID: 1184451
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
larry’s got space enough and surrounds that he forgets the humans exist for good part of the time
a very important thing amongst humans too, though you won’t hear it said much.
Date: 5/02/2018 12:03:30
From: Cymek
ID: 1184455
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
Ferrets are like tiny little dogs and as just as much fun to play with
Date: 5/02/2018 21:33:19
From: KJW
ID: 1184642
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
KJW said:
Rick And Morty Season 1 Episode 2 – Lawnmower Dog
“The whole point of having a dog is to feel superior.” – Rick Sanchez
Date: 6/02/2018 00:23:07
From: AussieDJ
ID: 1184669
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
Speaking of dogs – and pets, generally –
R.I.P. Dr Hugh Wirth, former head of RSPCA branches in Victoria, as well as the national organisation.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-05/former-rspca-victoria-president-dr-hugh-wirth-dies/9397694
Date: 6/02/2018 15:05:36
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1184856
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
Cymek said:
Ferrets are like tiny little dogs and as just as much fun to play with
With the same sorts of problems? Excitability, nervousness, tendency to bite, and difficult to train?
Date: 6/02/2018 15:19:31
From: Cymek
ID: 1184864
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
mollwollfumble said:
Cymek said:
Ferrets are like tiny little dogs and as just as much fun to play with
With the same sorts of problems? Excitability, nervousness, tendency to bite, and difficult to train?
Somewhat yes
Date: 6/02/2018 15:21:50
From: Tamb
ID: 1184866
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
Cymek said:
mollwollfumble said:
Cymek said:
Ferrets are like tiny little dogs and as just as much fun to play with
With the same sorts of problems? Excitability, nervousness, tendency to bite, and difficult to train?
Somewhat yes
Far be it for me to say that there are large sections of humanity with similar characteristics.
Date: 6/02/2018 15:23:02
From: Tamb
ID: 1184868
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
Tamb said:
Cymek said:
mollwollfumble said:
With the same sorts of problems? Excitability, nervousness, tendency to bite, and difficult to train?
Somewhat yes
Far be it for me to say that there are large sections of humanity with similar characteristics.
for = from
Date: 6/02/2018 15:37:32
From: Cymek
ID: 1184871
Subject: re: No such thing as a perfect dog?
Cymek said:
mollwollfumble said:
Cymek said:
Ferrets are like tiny little dogs and as just as much fun to play with
With the same sorts of problems? Excitability, nervousness, tendency to bite, and difficult to train?
Somewhat yes
I have quite a lot of affection for her, she’s fun to hang out with and loves to play