There is a scene in Kingsman: The Golden Circle, in which Eggsy drifts directly sideways in a modified London Cab.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuRQ2yko43Q (first 25 seconds)

Is there any possible way that such a drift could be effected in a real vehicle?

It appears to be 4wd- with diff lockers and a centerlock, I dont see why not…
Of course you would have only little to no control as to the actual direction of the drift imho- it would slide directly ‘downhill’ ie the slope of the road surface A similar effect can be felt starting off in a 4wd on extremely muddy or sandy conditions, especially diagonally on a slope or trying to pull out another bogged one on a chain or rope (rather than a snatchum strap)
(a similar effect can be seen in the Jurassic Park movie where he tries to stop the bus going over the cliff with the jeep)- it slides side to side as he swings the wheel

Without a restrain, you could still do it, but imho, you would need mega power and very little traction to succeed…

but then in movies superman can fly….

boppa said:

It appears to be 4wd- with diff lockers and a centerlock, I dont see why not…
Of course you would have only little to no control as to the actual direction of the drift imho- it would slide directly ‘downhill’ ie the slope of the road surface A similar effect can be felt starting off in a 4wd on extremely muddy or sandy conditions, especially diagonally on a slope or trying to pull out another bogged one on a chain or rope (rather than a snatchum strap)
(a similar effect can be seen in the Jurassic Park movie where he tries to stop the bus going over the cliff with the jeep)- it slides side to side as he swings the wheel

Without a restrain, you could still do it, but imho, you would need mega power and very little traction to succeed…

but then in movies superman can fly….

Someone else on the forum at 3:30 am. Hi.

Gravity, yes, but what about on a flat road ?

I can’t see any obvious way. But wait, what about in a cross wind, that would work if the wind was strong enough.

boppa said:

It appears to be 4wd- with diff lockers and a centerlock, I dont see why not…
Of course you would have only little to no control as to the actual direction of the drift imho- it would slide directly ‘downhill’ ie the slope of the road surface A similar effect can be felt starting off in a 4wd on extremely muddy or sandy conditions, especially diagonally on a slope or trying to pull out another bogged one on a chain or rope (rather than a snatchum strap)
(a similar effect can be seen in the Jurassic Park movie where he tries to stop the bus going over the cliff with the jeep)- it slides side to side as he swings the wheel

Without a restrain, you could still do it, but imho, you would need mega power and very little traction to succeed…

but then in movies superman can fly….

Gravity, yes, but what about on a flat road ?

I can’t see any obvious way. But wait, what about in a cross wind, that would work if the wind was strong enough.

The force from such a wind is proportional to the square of the wind speed. A sideways wind force equal to gravity from a 2% road slope is 200 Newtons which would require a wind speed of only 10 m/s.

In the absence of both road slope and wind, such drifting would only be possible if you could contrive some way to generate a sideways force contribution from the back wheels, such as by adding counter-steering and also reversing the spin direction of the back wheels.

boppa said:

but then in movies superman can fly….

You’ve never seen the rope?

In a real scenario and I do have a witness. We were on the Kidman way because we thought that road wouldn’t be as mucky as the Cobb Highway ditch. We got past Mount Hope OK but as we came down off the hills we met a patch where the road was actually going sideways. Cleraly we had entered what was an otherwise unnoticeable stream bed except that in this instance the mud was flowing fast. The Pajero and trailer suddenly snapped sidewaysand drifted as one straight edge ruler towards the bush. I fought it under control which wasn’t easy. came to a stop on the other side of this mud drift and looked at my passenger. His knuckles were white as he was gripping the Jesus bar. All he could say was, “well driven”. I said, “looks like I’d better get out and put the front hubs in, we still have to get to Cobar yet”.

dv said:

Is there any possible way that such a drift could be effected in a real vehicle?

No. Or maybe if it had mechanum tyres/wheels.

The reverse drift entry (as it’s labelled) is about as extreme as you can get.

Drifto

Spiny Norman said:

dv said:

Is there any possible way that such a drift could be effected in a real vehicle?

No. Or maybe if it had mechanum tyres/wheels.

The reverse drift entry (as it’s labelled) is about as extreme as you can get.

Drifto

I find drifting totally boring.

I forgot that with FWD’s only, if you lock the rear wheels (handbrake) then it is possible to wind on full lock on the steering wheel then feed the power. That’ll drag the front across with not much forwards motion.

Spiny Norman said:

dv said:

Is there any possible way that such a drift could be effected in a real vehicle?

No. Or maybe if it had mechanum tyres/wheels.

The reverse drift entry (as it’s labelled) is about as extreme as you can get.

Drifto

cheers

Spiny Norman said:

I forgot that with FWD’s only, if you lock the rear wheels (handbrake) then it is possible to wind on full lock on the steering wheel then feed the power. That’ll drag the front across with not much forwards motion.

Yes. Doesn’t move the back wheels sideways unless you can steer the back wheels as well.

mollwollfumble said:

Spiny Norman said:

I forgot that with FWD’s only, if you lock the rear wheels (handbrake) then it is possible to wind on full lock on the steering wheel then feed the power. That’ll drag the front across with not much forwards motion.

Yes. Doesn’t move the back wheels sideways unless you can steer the back wheels as well.

In this movie the wheels seemed to be facing straight

roughbarked said:

In a real scenario and I do have a witness. We were on the Kidman way because we thought that road wouldn’t be as mucky as the Cobb Highway ditch. We got past Mount Hope OK but as we came down off the hills we met a patch where the road was actually going sideways. Cleraly we had entered what was an otherwise unnoticeable stream bed except that in this instance the mud was flowing fast. The Pajero and trailer suddenly snapped sidewaysand drifted as one straight edge ruler towards the bush. I fought it under control which wasn’t easy. came to a stop on the other side of this mud drift and looked at my passenger. His knuckles were white as he was gripping the Jesus bar. All he could say was, “well driven”. I said, “looks like I’d better get out and put the front hubs in, we still have to get to Cobar yet”.

This patch was the only unsealed part for a long while after the whole road was sealed. Local comment reckoned it was all because the abbo’s declared the site and thpough this may be part of the argument. I’d suggest that it simply was an engineer’s avoidance.

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

Spiny Norman said:

I forgot that with FWD’s only, if you lock the rear wheels (handbrake) then it is possible to wind on full lock on the steering wheel then feed the power. That’ll drag the front across with not much forwards motion.

Yes. Doesn’t move the back wheels sideways unless you can steer the back wheels as well.

In this movie the wheels seemed to be facing straight

Only a slope on the road (or a rope off to the cars right lol) would allow such a maneuver as shown in the clip
To do it deliberately with actual control, not possible imho
(btw it is very rare to find an actual ‘flat’ and level road IRL, it would be a pain in wet weather as the water would tend to puddle on it, which is why they normally have some camber built into them- to promote drainage in bad weather)

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

Spiny Norman said:

I forgot that with FWD’s only, if you lock the rear wheels (handbrake) then it is possible to wind on full lock on the steering wheel then feed the power. That’ll drag the front across with not much forwards motion.

Yes. Doesn’t move the back wheels sideways unless you can steer the back wheels as well.

In this movie the wheels seemed to be facing straight

Only a slope on the road (or a rope off to the cars right lol) would allow such a maneuver as shown in the clip
To do it deliberately with actual control, not possible imho
(btw it is very rare to find an actual ‘flat’ and level road IRL, it would be a pain in wet weather as the water would tend to puddle on it, which is why they normally have some camber built into them- to promote drainage in bad weather)