A good cause for any spare change you might have.

>>The numbers are hard to wrap your head around.

In Australia, 1800 animal species and ecological communities are threatened or endangered – right now.

It’s a dire situation. What these threatened creatures need most is habitat – leaf-lined hollows in big old trees, safe places to burrow, forest litter for tiny communities to call home.

Yet in response, our governments are giving logging companies permission to destroy native forests, even when they’re home to threatened wildlife.

These logging loopholes – known as Regional Forest Agreements (or RFAs) – must end. State and federal governments made these dodgy deals twenty years ago and in the decades since, tens of thousands of hectares of forests – and millions of big old trees – have been clear-felled, bulldozed and burnt.

But right now, we have a historic opportunity to stop this. Two key RFA logging loopholes are expiring on the 27th of March and we urgently need your help.

We only have five days left and we’re still short of our $200,000 target.

Will you donate $25 to this critical campaign today so together we can stop these dodgy logging deals and push for a new framework of national environment laws to actually protect trees and wildlife?

If we stop these key RFAs now, it will be the beginning of the end for these dodgy logging loopholes across the nation. It’s a critical step towards protecting our forests and creating better laws, and it’s up to all of us to make sure it happens.

Your gift today will help:

Run a powerful campaign to get rid of RFAs and make this lawless logging subject to national environmental laws;
Advocate for an independent national Environmental Protection Authority to make sure governments and businesses do the right thing by nature;
Push to implement a plan for a new generation of national environment laws that genuinely protect the air we breathe, our wildlife and the forests we love.

There’s only five days left before these two key RFAs expire. Will you please donate $10 to help us reach our target of $200,000?

Your gift today will help power this critical campaign and change the course of history for big old trees and unique wildlife across our country. We have the solutions – all we need now is the political will.

Thank you for all that you do.

Jess

Jess Abrahams
Nature Campaigner
Australian Conservation Foundation<<

https://www.acf.org.au/

PermeateFree said:

A good cause for any spare change you might have.

>>The numbers are hard to wrap your head around.

In Australia, 1800 animal species and ecological communities are threatened or endangered – right now.

It’s a dire situation. What these threatened creatures need most is habitat – leaf-lined hollows in big old trees, safe places to burrow, forest litter for tiny communities to call home.

Yet in response, our governments are giving logging companies permission to destroy native forests, even when they’re home to threatened wildlife.

These logging loopholes – known as Regional Forest Agreements (or RFAs) – must end. State and federal governments made these dodgy deals twenty years ago and in the decades since, tens of thousands of hectares of forests – and millions of big old trees – have been clear-felled, bulldozed and burnt.

But right now, we have a historic opportunity to stop this. Two key RFA logging loopholes are expiring on the 27th of March and we urgently need your help.

We only have five days left and we’re still short of our $200,000 target.

Will you donate $25 to this critical campaign today so together we can stop these dodgy logging deals and push for a new framework of national environment laws to actually protect trees and wildlife?

If we stop these key RFAs now, it will be the beginning of the end for these dodgy logging loopholes across the nation. It’s a critical step towards protecting our forests and creating better laws, and it’s up to all of us to make sure it happens.

Your gift today will help:

Run a powerful campaign to get rid of RFAs and make this lawless logging subject to national environmental laws;
Advocate for an independent national Environmental Protection Authority to make sure governments and businesses do the right thing by nature;
Push to implement a plan for a new generation of national environment laws that genuinely protect the air we breathe, our wildlife and the forests we love.

There’s only five days left before these two key RFAs expire. Will you please donate $10 to help us reach our target of $200,000?

Your gift today will help power this critical campaign and change the course of history for big old trees and unique wildlife across our country. We have the solutions – all we need now is the political will.

Thank you for all that you do.

Jess

Jess Abrahams
Nature Campaigner
Australian Conservation Foundation<<

https://www.acf.org.au/

Tasmania doesn’t believe in RFAs anymore.

sarahs mum said:

PermeateFree said:

A good cause for any spare change you might have.

>>The numbers are hard to wrap your head around.

In Australia, 1800 animal species and ecological communities are threatened or endangered – right now.

It’s a dire situation. What these threatened creatures need most is habitat – leaf-lined hollows in big old trees, safe places to burrow, forest litter for tiny communities to call home.

Yet in response, our governments are giving logging companies permission to destroy native forests, even when they’re home to threatened wildlife.

These logging loopholes – known as Regional Forest Agreements (or RFAs) – must end. State and federal governments made these dodgy deals twenty years ago and in the decades since, tens of thousands of hectares of forests – and millions of big old trees – have been clear-felled, bulldozed and burnt.

But right now, we have a historic opportunity to stop this. Two key RFA logging loopholes are expiring on the 27th of March and we urgently need your help.

We only have five days left and we’re still short of our $200,000 target.

Will you donate $25 to this critical campaign today so together we can stop these dodgy logging deals and push for a new framework of national environment laws to actually protect trees and wildlife?

If we stop these key RFAs now, it will be the beginning of the end for these dodgy logging loopholes across the nation. It’s a critical step towards protecting our forests and creating better laws, and it’s up to all of us to make sure it happens.

Your gift today will help:

Run a powerful campaign to get rid of RFAs and make this lawless logging subject to national environmental laws;
Advocate for an independent national Environmental Protection Authority to make sure governments and businesses do the right thing by nature;
Push to implement a plan for a new generation of national environment laws that genuinely protect the air we breathe, our wildlife and the forests we love.

There’s only five days left before these two key RFAs expire. Will you please donate $10 to help us reach our target of $200,000?

Your gift today will help power this critical campaign and change the course of history for big old trees and unique wildlife across our country. We have the solutions – all we need now is the political will.

Thank you for all that you do.

Jess

Jess Abrahams
Nature Campaigner
Australian Conservation Foundation<<

https://www.acf.org.au/

Tasmania doesn’t believe in RFAs anymore.

Good thing, just have to get the rest of Australia now.

I refuse to be drawn into an argument.

mollwollfumble said:

I refuse to be drawn into an argument.

Not feeling artistic?

sarahs mum said:

Tasmania doesn’t believe in RFAs anymore.

Um, I thought they were renewed in Tasmania last year for another 5 years.

Speedy said:

sarahs mum said:

Tasmania doesn’t believe in RFAs anymore.

Um, I thought they were renewed in Tasmania last year for another 5 years.

20 years?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-18/tasmanian-regional-forest-agreements-to-be-extended/8818838

OK. I’ll nibble. I simultaneously hold two opposing views on logging.

On the one hand, logging is renewable and sustainable. And even more, logging is the number one best way to sequester carbon. Which makes logging our best long term defence against global warming.

But on the other hand, have you looked at the Google Earth views of Sarawak in Borneo? Sarawak is 124,000 square kilometres. Logging roads are everywhere. I calculate the area logged to be about 20,000 square kilometres. This has all been logged by Malaysia since 1961. I find this horrific.

mollwollfumble said:

OK. I’ll nibble. I simultaneously hold two opposing views on logging.

On the one hand, logging is renewable and sustainable. And even more, logging is the number one best way to sequester carbon. Which makes logging our best long term defence against global warming.

But on the other hand, have you looked at the Google Earth views of Sarawak in Borneo? Sarawak is 124,000 square kilometres. Logging roads are everywhere. I calculate the area logged to be about 20,000 square kilometres. This has all been logged by Malaysia since 1961. I find this horrific.

The environmentalists got no time for the habitat of Sumatran tigers and the forests anymore.
The money is in wind turbines and batteries and anything to do with global warming.
If you don’t include global warming in your article it wont sell.
If you don’t include global warming in your submission for a grant or a UN resolution you’ll get short shrift.
Billions of environmental allocated money is going into the global warming behemoth while the last of the wild tiger cubs die of starvation.

mollwollfumble said:

OK. I’ll nibble. I simultaneously hold two opposing views on logging.

On the one hand, logging is renewable and sustainable. And even more, logging is the number one best way to sequester carbon. Which makes logging our best long term defence against global warming.

But on the other hand, have you looked at the Google Earth views of Sarawak in Borneo? Sarawak is 124,000 square kilometres. Logging roads are everywhere. I calculate the area logged to be about 20,000 square kilometres. This has all been logged by Malaysia since 1961. I find this horrific.

Sustainable logging is one thing but the forests aren’t big enough for the demands of the wasteful population.

Peak Warming Man said:

mollwollfumble said:

OK. I’ll nibble. I simultaneously hold two opposing views on logging.

On the one hand, logging is renewable and sustainable. And even more, logging is the number one best way to sequester carbon. Which makes logging our best long term defence against global warming.

But on the other hand, have you looked at the Google Earth views of Sarawak in Borneo? Sarawak is 124,000 square kilometres. Logging roads are everywhere. I calculate the area logged to be about 20,000 square kilometres. This has all been logged by Malaysia since 1961. I find this horrific.

The environmentalists got no time for the habitat of Sumatran tigers and the forests anymore.
The money is in wind turbines and batteries and anything to do with global warming.
If you don’t include global warming in your article it wont sell.
If you don’t include global warming in your submission for a grant or a UN resolution you’ll get short shrift.
Billions of environmental allocated money is going into the global warming behemoth while the last of the wild tiger cubs die of starvation.

the tigers and the orangutans are collateral damage along the way where destruction of rainforests causes global warming.

Even with Malaysia. Logging peaked in 1990 and has been declining steadily ever since. Units are cubic metres.
And they have a strongly policed policy against clear felling.

mollwollfumble said:

Even with Malaysia. Logging peaked in 1990 and has been declining steadily ever since. Units are cubic metres.
And they have a strongly policed policy against clear felling.

That’s largely because there are very few pockets of old growth left.

I’ve just gone through world logging statistics to see which countries are worse for logging than Malaysia.

The worst thing you can do with logging is to burn rainforest hardwoods for fuel. Admittedly, a case can be made for wood as fuel because it’s renewable, unlike fossil fuels. But that argument only holds if the wood is burnt in a furnace that maximises heat for minimum pollution, and in those countries where wood is used as fuel that is never the case.

Countries where the dominant use of logging is for burning. The data available only stretches from 1961 to 2015.

Country, Peak logging year, Maximum logging (million cubic metres)
India, 2010, 300
Brazil, 2000, 119 (not much reduction since the year 2000).
Ethiopia, 2015, 101
Democratic republic of Congo, 2015, 83
Nigeria, 2015, 65
Ghana, 2015, 44

If you want to protest against logging in any or all of those six counties count me in. !!

Countries where the dominant use of logging was rainforest logging for burning, but whose logging has thankfully declined very greatly in recent years.

Country, Peak logging year, Maximum logging (million cubic metres)
China, 1975, 190
Indonesia, 1961, 236

In the following countries, the statistics make no distinction between virgin timber and farmed timber. For Malaysia it’s almost certainly virgin rainforest timber but for all the others it’s far from certain. The dominant use of logged timber in the remaining countries is for buildings and furniture (not chipboard, paper, mdf, plywood, etc.)

Country, Peak logging year, Maximum logging (million cubic metres)
Russia, 2015, 101
Canada, 2005, 155
Sweden, 2005, 56
USA, 1990, 219
Germany, 1990, 52
Malaysia, 1990, 40
Japan, 1970, 33

So Russia still needs a swift kick up the backside. (I’ll join in an anti-logging protest there).
Canada and Sweden, perhaps (Do you want to join me in a boycott of IKEA?)
The other four counties are doing the right thing and reducing their logging.

Australia hardly matters.

Let’s have a closer look at Canada and Sweden.

Canada has cut back a lot, from 155 million cubic metres to 118 million cubic metres in ten years, but it’s still early days.

Sweden has cut back its logging from 56 million cubic metres to 36 million cubic metres in ten years, again there’s no guarantee that they’ll continue to reduce their logging.

Yes. If you care about logging enough to run a boycott of IKEA then I’ll join you.

https://www.ikea.com/ms/en_AU/about_ikea/our_responsibility/forestry_and_wood/index.html

mollwollfumble said:

OK. I’ll nibble. I simultaneously hold two opposing views on logging.

On the one hand, logging is renewable and sustainable. And even more, logging is the number one best way to sequester carbon. Which makes logging our best long term defence against global warming.

But on the other hand, have you looked at the Google Earth views of Sarawak in Borneo? Sarawak is 124,000 square kilometres. Logging roads are everywhere. I calculate the area logged to be about 20,000 square kilometres. This has all been logged by Malaysia since 1961. I find this horrific.

Logging might be renewable for the trees, but it destroys the entire ecosystem that the trees create. Not good at all!

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

OK. I’ll nibble. I simultaneously hold two opposing views on logging.

On the one hand, logging is renewable and sustainable. And even more, logging is the number one best way to sequester carbon. Which makes logging our best long term defence against global warming.

But on the other hand, have you looked at the Google Earth views of Sarawak in Borneo? Sarawak is 124,000 square kilometres. Logging roads are everywhere. I calculate the area logged to be about 20,000 square kilometres. This has all been logged by Malaysia since 1961. I find this horrific.

Logging might be renewable for the trees, but it destroys the entire ecosystem that the trees create. Not good at all!

Selective logging isn’t as bad as clear felling but yes every tree is a city.

mollwollfumble said:

Even with Malaysia. Logging peaked in 1990 and has been declining steadily ever since. Units are cubic metres.
And they have a strongly policed policy against clear felling.

I think you will find that they have logged most of it, hence the reduction.

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

Even with Malaysia. Logging peaked in 1990 and has been declining steadily ever since. Units are cubic metres.
And they have a strongly policed policy against clear felling.

I think you will find that they have logged most of it, hence the reduction.

my comment went along similar lines.

For those in Melbourne…

Tomorrow at 17:30–18:30
Parliament of Victoria
Spring St, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia 3002

This Tuesday 27 March Victoria’s 20 year-old dodgy logging deals (Regional Forest Agreements) will expire. These out of date agreements between state and federal governments exempt logging from national environment law.

Join us on the steps of parliament to tell Premier Daniel Andrews and Malcolm Turnbull that it’s time to let them die – no extension, no roll-over, no more RFAs.

Since the the RFAs were signed twenty years ago, species like the Greater Glider and Leadbeater’s Possum have been pushed to the brink of extinction from logging of their habitat.

The RFAs are a disaster for our wildlife, our communities and our forests. It’s time to give our forests a fair go and make logging comply with national environment law.

Join in a snap action on Tuesday. Bring banners, signs, placards. Hear speakers from forest campaign groups.

Bring your mates!

https://www.facebook.com/events/427561271015177/?active_tab=about

Speedy said:

For those in Melbourne…

Tomorrow at 17:30–18:30
Parliament of Victoria
Spring St, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia 3002

This Tuesday 27 March Victoria’s 20 year-old dodgy logging deals (Regional Forest Agreements) will expire. These out of date agreements between state and federal governments exempt logging from national environment law.

Join us on the steps of parliament to tell Premier Daniel Andrews and Malcolm Turnbull that it’s time to let them die – no extension, no roll-over, no more RFAs.

Since the the RFAs were signed twenty years ago, species like the Greater Glider and Leadbeater’s Possum have been pushed to the brink of extinction from logging of their habitat.

The RFAs are a disaster for our wildlife, our communities and our forests. It’s time to give our forests a fair go and make logging comply with national environment law.

Join in a snap action on Tuesday. Bring banners, signs, placards. Hear speakers from forest campaign groups.

Bring your mates!

https://www.facebook.com/events/427561271015177/?active_tab=about

Wish them every success.

PermeateFree said:

Speedy said:

For those in Melbourne…

Tomorrow at 17:30–18:30
Parliament of Victoria
Spring St, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia 3002

This Tuesday 27 March Victoria’s 20 year-old dodgy logging deals (Regional Forest Agreements) will expire. These out of date agreements between state and federal governments exempt logging from national environment law.

Join us on the steps of parliament to tell Premier Daniel Andrews and Malcolm Turnbull that it’s time to let them die – no extension, no roll-over, no more RFAs.

Since the the RFAs were signed twenty years ago, species like the Greater Glider and Leadbeater’s Possum have been pushed to the brink of extinction from logging of their habitat.

The RFAs are a disaster for our wildlife, our communities and our forests. It’s time to give our forests a fair go and make logging comply with national environment law.

Join in a snap action on Tuesday. Bring banners, signs, placards. Hear speakers from forest campaign groups.

Bring your mates!

https://www.facebook.com/events/427561271015177/?active_tab=about

Wish them every success.

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