let’s say one-third of the world’s population live, work, and play in buildings, and travel in vehicles with environmental controls.

people shelter and want to be comfortable, to generalize.

but I ask what does multiplying this by billions do, of the human view of nature, the elements, the wind, rain etc?

it perhaps sounds like a naive question.

perhaps a good starter, is the question of what you’re really doing inside right now, reading this.

perhaps sheltering.

and back to the idea of creeping environmental controls later, and how it influences peoples view of nature.

transition said:

let’s say one-third of the world’s population live, work, and play in buildings, and travel in vehicles with environmental controls.

people shelter and want to be comfortable, to generalize.

but I ask what does multiplying this by billions do, of the human view of nature, the elements, the wind, rain etc?

it perhaps sounds like a naive question.

It does rather. The results are in the news daily. Yet there is so much that is not yet understood.

transition said:

let’s say one-third of the world’s population live, work, and play in buildings, and travel in vehicles with environmental controls.

people shelter and want to be comfortable, to generalize.

but I ask what does multiplying this by billions do, of the human view of nature, the elements, the wind, rain etc?

it perhaps sounds like a naive question.

perhaps a good starter, is the question of what you’re really doing inside right now, reading this.

perhaps sheltering.

and back to the idea of creeping environmental controls later, and how it influences peoples view of nature.

This sheltering divorces humankind from nature. It reduces the ability of people to smell and touch nature as it really is, both the bad and the good parts of it.

When young I would have said that this sheltering was a bad thing, in that it stifles the scientific instinct to find out the what and why of nature.

Now that I’m older, I sometimes see this sheltering as a good thing, in that because we are comfortable no matter what nature throws at us we no longer wage war on the environment.

Interesting that transition writes nature emphasised, as is nature. Julius Sumner Miller always did too, always writing nature with a capital as “Nature”. Nature is a very important concept, it’s far more than just Environment.

Thought I’d find the OED first definitions of nature and environment and see how they differ.

Nature: The phenomena of the physical world collectively, including plants, animals, the landscape, and other features and products of the Earth, as opposed to humans or human creations.

Environment: The surroundings or conditions in which a person, animal, or plant lives or operates.

mollwollfumble said:

transition said:

let’s say one-third of the world’s population live, work, and play in buildings, and travel in vehicles with environmental controls.

people shelter and want to be comfortable, to generalize.

but I ask what does multiplying this by billions do, of the human view of nature, the elements, the wind, rain etc?

it perhaps sounds like a naive question.

perhaps a good starter, is the question of what you’re really doing inside right now, reading this.

perhaps sheltering.

and back to the idea of creeping environmental controls later, and how it influences peoples view of nature.

This sheltering divorces humankind from nature. It reduces the ability of people to smell and touch nature as it really is, both the bad and the good parts of it.

When young I would have said that this sheltering was a bad thing, in that it stifles the scientific instinct to find out the what and why of nature.

Now that I’m older, I sometimes see this sheltering as a good thing, in that because we are comfortable no matter what nature throws at us we no longer wage war on the environment.

Interesting that transition writes nature emphasised, as is nature. Julius Sumner Miller always did too, always writing nature with a capital as “Nature”. Nature is a very important concept, it’s far more than just Environment.

yes, i’m meaning it to be that outside what minds do, the order (and forces) that exist outside the work of minds, which the study of has some immediate contradictions and is a peculiar sort of work.