now here’s a topic you are free to hijack.

my thoughts go sumfing like this-

the first lady announced that the white house is going to get an organic vege patch for fresh veges to be used in white house dinners. well and good. …. but she seemed to be wearing a tailored suit and high heels at the time of turning the first sod with a silver spade.

and tino was really good in last night’s episode of pete’s patch but everything there is so good i’m feeling inferior. the strawberries were bursting with flowers and fruit while mine are only just surviving.

so the demonstration gardens (with their hidden budgets of $millions) are not really doing us a favour since they are totally out of whack with reality.

soap box is yours.

pepe said:

and tino was really good in last night’s episode of pete’s patch but everything there is so good i’m feeling inferior. the strawberries were bursting with flowers and fruit while mine are only just surviving.

I must admit I had to chuckle at his shiny new bucket and spade. Never seen anything so shiny before..lol

Speaking of GA I sometimes wish that they had fewer segment, but each one done in more depth. I must admit I would like some more “hands on” segments and less at looking at other gardens. Don’t get me wrong I find other peoples gardens inspirational, but at the same time depressing, because I am never likely to be able to achieve anything like that…especially ones where there have been 100’s of shrubs and trees planted. I just can’t afford anything like that, even though I try to grow as much as possible from cuttings etc.

Actually what I would like to see are segments aimed at people who, like me, live in rental premises but still want to have a nice garden at a reasonable cost. Also not so much emphasis on tropical gardening…..more on gardening in marginal areas….
Some of the best segments I seen over the years have been Josh Byrne’s where he has started a garden from scratch

The last time I believe this happened back back in the Kennedy’s time at the white house. Last time that happened heaps of folks followed Jackie’s idea.

But I do see where you coming from Pepe……………………………

Actually what I would like to see are segments aimed at people who, like me, live in rental premises but still want to have a nice garden at a reasonable cost.
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that’s my daughter’s situation too. its a lot more challenging than ms obama’s situation.

I can’t say the last time I watched GA:(

Too upsetting for me to watch with all those lush gardens…….. maybe now I have my new plans in place….

Lucky1 said:

The last time I believe this happened back back in the Kennedy’s time at the white house. Last time that happened heaps of folks followed Jackie’s idea.

But I do see where you coming from Pepe……………………………

yeah the people on this forum represent the real challenge of home gardening – whereas those demo gardens are built for the dream factory (tv) and photo opportunities.
i am pleased to see nice gardens but when prince charles bought a 100 different thymes for his thyme walk and then these massive $1,000+ ceramic pots to put along his freestone fence – i tuned out and went back to reality.

pepe said:

Lucky1 said:

The last time I believe this happened back back in the Kennedy’s time at the white house. Last time that happened heaps of folks followed Jackie’s idea.

But I do see where you coming from Pepe……………………………

yeah the people on this forum represent the real challenge of home gardening – whereas those demo gardens are built for the dream factory (tv) and photo opportunities.
i am pleased to see nice gardens but when prince charles bought a 100 different thymes for his thyme walk and then these massive $1,000+ ceramic pots to put along his freestone fence – i tuned out and went back to reality.

Haves and have nots of the gardening world….sad to say.

Thing is do they really then appreciate the end result the way us “real” gardeners feel.

We’re the ones that put on old rips and thin gardening closes….. sweated and got the old hand dirty…..

pepe said:

Actually what I would like to see are segments aimed at people who, like me, live in rental premises but still want to have a nice garden at a reasonable cost.
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that’s my daughter’s situation too. its a lot more challenging than ms obama’s situation.

Ain’t that the truth

Haves and have nots of the gardening world….sad to say.
Thing is do they really then appreciate the end result the way us “real” gardeners feel.
We’re the ones that put on old rips and thin gardening closes….. sweated and got the old hand dirty…..
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that’s it !
the work is the thing!
lolling about in suits – giving directions – ain’t gardening.

pepe said:

Haves and have nots of the gardening world….sad to say.
Thing is do they really then appreciate the end result the way us “real” gardeners feel.
We’re the ones that put on old rips and thin gardening closes….. sweated and got the old hand dirty…..
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that’s it !
the work is the thing!
lolling about in suits – giving directions – ain’t gardening.

Computering gardening at its worst

Lucky1 said:

pepe said:

Haves and have nots of the gardening world….sad to say.
Thing is do they really then appreciate the end result the way us “real” gardeners feel.
We’re the ones that put on old rips and thin gardening closes….. sweated and got the old hand dirty…..
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that’s it !
the work is the thing!
lolling about in suits – giving directions – ain’t gardening.

Computering gardening at its worst

yeah these demo gardens are – game playing.
my winter garden got off to a typical start. i put in a lot of effort to sort out the structure – edges and soil – and then spent $24 on seedlings to get a flying start. those seedlings were wiped out in an hour by the unexpected. pigeons. now what book will tell you that?
i’m making a comeback with effort, but it still doesn’t look good enough to photograph. its a struggle. gardening is a struggle with the occasional bit of good luck. the theoretical demo gardens don’t illustrate the main theme of ‘struggle’.

I stand corrected it wasn’t the Kennedy’s but Eleanor Roosevelt!

and then spent $24 on seedlings to get a flying start. those seedlings were wiped out in an hour by the unexpected. pigeons. now what book will tell you that?
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Can’t think of a book Pepe….but I know a good garden forum that will;)

What I’m finding offensive on GA at the moment, is that bloke maintaining his vegie plot on only two hours a week. Bastard!!! What excuse can I use now???

:D

bon008 said:

What I’m finding offensive on GA at the moment, is that bloke maintaining his vegie plot on only two hours a week. Bastard!!! What excuse can I use now???

:D

ROTFPIMP

Hang on…….. that includes me too……..bugger LOL

bon008 said:

What I’m finding offensive on GA at the moment, is that bloke maintaining his vegie plot on only two hours a week. Bastard!!! What excuse can I use now??? :D

john did have big time failures (no wind breaks, cooked eggplant and toms, no soil moisture, not enough shade) on his 2 hours a week.
no excuses possible – even if you do fail you can have a thoroughly theraputic whinge. lol.

Lucky1 said:

bon008 said:

What I’m finding offensive on GA at the moment, is that bloke maintaining his vegie plot on only two hours a week. Bastard!!! What excuse can I use now???

:D

ROTFPIMP

Hang on…….. that includes me too……..bugger LOL

and me three

Actually another thing that I am finding a bit frustrating with GA at the moment is that some of the segments on preparing to plant etc are shown too far into the season. I reckon they should be shown at the beginning of the season…so that late starters like me have time to follow their advice

AnneS said:

Actually another thing that I am finding a bit frustrating with GA at the moment is that some of the segments on preparing to plant etc are shown too far into the season. I reckon they should be shown at the beginning of the season…so that late starters like me have time to follow their advice

Hi Anne I have a great chart I follow, does popular vegies and flowers by the season.

I can photocopy it and snail mail it to you if you want it.

Done by Better Homes & Gardens.

Lucky1 said:

AnneS said:

Actually another thing that I am finding a bit frustrating with GA at the moment is that some of the segments on preparing to plant etc are shown too far into the season. I reckon they should be shown at the beginning of the season…so that late starters like me have time to follow their advice

Hi Anne I have a great chart I follow, does popular vegies and flowers by the season.

I can photocopy it and snail mail it to you if you want it.

Done by Better Homes & Gardens.

Thanks Lucky, but I’m just having a whinge….I have plenty of books and charts already, which I try to follow…..it’s just that sometimes a timely reminder on GA gives me the impetus to not procrastinate so much….not much help if the segments is too far into the season. Can’t think of the segment off the top of my head but there was one a month or so ago that I felt would have been better screened a month or so earlier…especially for newbie gardeners

Thanks Lucky, but I’m just having a whinge….I have plenty of books and charts already, which I try to follow
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No worries:D

They go too fast for me, bang bang bang…fact fact fact…flattering shots everywhere…but they are not the shots that give you any ideas…sometimes they do something slowly enough that I can pick up the gist…but not often…

I get more from the “untidy” shots on this forum, Lucky’s and Pepe’s and AnneS’ shots…warts and all shots that only a gardener could love…this is why your before and after and during shots give the rest of us an idea of pace and communality…

Dinetta said:

I get more from the “untidy” shots on this forum, Lucky’s and Pepe’s and AnneS’ shots…warts and all shots that only a gardener could love…this is why your before and after and during shots give the rest of us an idea of pace and communality…

Thanks Dinetta……. I feel if people are going to take the time to look at my blogs……. they need to really feel what is happening. Not some candy covered version that is so far off base.

lol Dinetta. Definitely warts and all with my garden!

A garden bed takes time, soil preparation is ongoing…

Do you think Ms Obama was sending the message: you can dress like me and still enjoy working with the earth?

It’s getting on for springtime over there, I did read where the Cherry Blossom Season has been officially opened in Japan…they are concerned as it is has happened one day earlier per year last year and this year…only the Japanese!!!

AnneS said:

lol Dinetta. Definitely warts and all with my garden!

Well I love everybody’s photos but many people don’t read behind the lines with established gardens…they gloss over the “25 years in the making” and just look at the finished product…many “finished” gardens have taken ages and there’s tales of time-consuming, costly mistakes if you listen carefully…

Dinetta said:

AnneS said:

lol Dinetta. Definitely warts and all with my garden!

Well I love everybody’s photos but many people don’t read behind the lines with established gardens…they gloss over the “25 years in the making” and just look at the finished product…many “finished” gardens have taken ages and there’s tales of time-consuming, costly mistakes if you listen carefully…

So what is Ms Obama going to plant, exactly?

many “finished” gardens
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When is a garden finished though???

Dinetta said:

AnneS said:

lol Dinetta. Definitely warts and all with my garden!

Well I love everybody’s photos but many people don’t read behind the lines with established gardens…they gloss over the “25 years in the making” and just look at the finished product…many “finished” gardens have taken ages and there’s tales of time-consuming, costly mistakes if you listen carefully…

Yes but some of them have been created in only a few years (or so they say). It would seem that to do that they had no other life!

I get more from the “untidy” shots on this forum, Lucky’s and Pepe’s and AnneS’ shots…warts and all shots that only a gardener could love…this is why your before and after and during shots give the rest of us an idea of pace and communality…
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untidy? – moi? – oh ok – altho’ its more ‘unkempt’ – fastidiously untamed. LOL.
i do think we should consciously include our failures – otherwise it becomes a few people boasting and the rest of us feeling like failures.

Do you think Ms Obama was sending the message: you can dress like me and still enjoy working with the earth?
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the message is – i hope – the ‘food mile’ message of the greenies in london – produce and consume it locally to save on fuel.
however we are good little trendies at the moment because there are heaps of other good reasons for backyard gardening – fitness, better food, better health, family togetherness, carbon sequestration (sp?), biodiversity, removal of toxins…. the whole gambit of goody, goody green living.

Lucky1 said:

many “finished” gardens
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When is a garden finished though???

When it ends up as an article in the media, be it TV or the local paper…or becomes a display garden for the gardening bus tours…

AnneS said:

Dinetta said:

AnneS said:

lol Dinetta. Definitely warts and all with my garden!

Well I love everybody’s photos but many people don’t read behind the lines with established gardens…they gloss over the “25 years in the making” and just look at the finished product…many “finished” gardens have taken ages and there’s tales of time-consuming, costly mistakes if you listen carefully…

Yes but some of them have been created in only a few years (or so they say). It would seem that to do that they had no other life!

Sometimes, AnneS, I think they must have (no other life)…weekends stretch ahead of me, early mornings, and still I don’t get to do the gardening I planned…

Dinetta said:

Lucky1 said:

many “finished” gardens
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When is a garden finished though???

When it ends up as an article in the media, be it TV or the local paper…or becomes a display garden for the gardening bus tours…

Oh I see…….

google article by lauren williams

“People are asking how to start their own gardens.”

The trend is so hot, even the White House is doing it, with first lady Michelle Obama on Friday breaking ground on the first kitchen garden there since Eleanor Roosevelt’s World War II victory garden. Obama told the grade-schoolers at the groundbreaking that whole point of the garden was to make sure her family had access to fresh vegetables and fruits.

“My girls like vegetables more if they taste good,” Obama said, according to pool reports. Later she added: “Especially if they’re involved in planting it and picking it, they were willing to give it a try.”

Also not so much emphasis on tropical gardening…..more on gardening in marginal areas….
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Red light blinking on and off. On and off. I think some wires are crossed here. Up here we are inclined to think that there is always far too much time spent on southern climates and gardens. We complain that there is always very little for the sub and tropical areas. Very interesting really. Each thinks the others are getting the biggest and the best of the show. Reminds me of the kids. lol.

Lucky1 said:

The last time I believe this happened back back in the Kennedy’s time at the white house. Last time that happened heaps of folks followed Jackie’s idea.

But I do see where you coming from Pepe……………………………

Me too. Money just has to make gardening a lot easier. Paying someone to do it for you wouldn’t be as much fun though.

Just to be able to go and order a truck load of rocks to be delivered or to be able to afford established trees or a mile of paving stones would be lovely if that’s what you needed. Not many of us can do that.

its kinda sad that quincy adams started an organic garden in the white house 150 years ago – sheep to mow the white house lawn and all.
if they had kept that going they would now have 150 year old organic soil – good enough to serve as chocolate cake.
but no – we now have michelle’s 1 week old soil – nothing more than a fad.

ms pepe is brow beating me and saying that its good that 85,000 americans have volunteered to help with her garden. i think it takes ten years to create a garden.

… and its ironic that whilst condemning fast foods ms obama is contemplating fast gardens.

If Mrs Obama wants to plant a vegie patch and she has someone else do all the work. It aint all bad.
If Prince Charlie has 27 different species of some plant which he imported from all over the world at a carbon footprint equal to my annual electricity usage, It aint all bad.
These people aren’t gardeners, but i don’t think they pretend to be such. (Well, maybe Charlie does but i’m pretty sure his heart’s in the right place and he does get horseshit oin his boots).
They do however, influence a massive number of people and i’m sure they don’t really have much time to weed the carrots.
So if 1 person decides to grow their own food after watching the first lady turn a few sods in a bit of clobber befitting the first lady, then ripper bonza bewdy. We could find lots of negatives in these things. These people don’t just live in the same world as us. They run it.
If you look for positives though, then they’re there. If a million Americans started growing their own vegies, because the Whitehouse reckons it’s a good idea, then the effect i’m sure Mrs Obama is looking for is probably achieved. If a few families lose a bit of weight through a change of diet, then go you good thing. It could be a bigger influence than that if it snowballs. She wasn’t gardening, she was turning the first sod. It’s a display of the start of something good.
Mrs Obama rocks.

Longy said:

If Mrs Obama wants to plant a vegie patch and she has someone else do all the work. It aint all bad.
If Prince Charlie has 27 different species of some plant which he imported from all over the world at a carbon footprint equal to my annual electricity usage, It aint all bad.
These people aren’t gardeners, but i don’t think they pretend to be such. (Well, maybe Charlie does but i’m pretty sure his heart’s in the right place and he does get horseshit oin his boots).
They do however, influence a massive number of people and i’m sure they don’t really have much time to weed the carrots.
So if 1 person decides to grow their own food after watching the first lady turn a few sods in a bit of clobber befitting the first lady, then ripper bonza bewdy. We could find lots of negatives in these things. These people don’t just live in the same world as us. They run it.
If you look for positives though, then they’re there. If a million Americans started growing their own vegies, because the Whitehouse reckons it’s a good idea, then the effect i’m sure Mrs Obama is looking for is probably achieved. If a few families lose a bit of weight through a change of diet, then go you good thing. It could be a bigger influence than that if it snowballs. She wasn’t gardening, she was turning the first sod. It’s a display of the start of something good.
Mrs Obama rocks.

Well said :)

If Prince Charlie has 27 different species of some plant which he imported from all over the world at a carbon footprint equal to my annual electricity usage, It aint all bad.
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no – it ain’t all bad – as an idea.
nor was the soldier settlers idea. but it is possible to spend $,000’s on a home garden that yields nothing in return.
i would be a bit cautious if people start throwing money at the idea.

bon008 said:

Longy said:

If Mrs Obama wants to plant a vegie patch and she has someone else do all the work. It aint all bad.
If Prince Charlie has 27 different species of some plant which he imported from all over the world at a carbon footprint equal to my annual electricity usage, It aint all bad.
These people aren’t gardeners, but i don’t think they pretend to be such. (Well, maybe Charlie does but i’m pretty sure his heart’s in the right place and he does get horseshit oin his boots).
They do however, influence a massive number of people and i’m sure they don’t really have much time to weed the carrots.
So if 1 person decides to grow their own food after watching the first lady turn a few sods in a bit of clobber befitting the first lady, then ripper bonza bewdy. We could find lots of negatives in these things. These people don’t just live in the same world as us. They run it.
If you look for positives though, then they’re there. If a million Americans started growing their own vegies, because the Whitehouse reckons it’s a good idea, then the effect i’m sure Mrs Obama is looking for is probably achieved. If a few families lose a bit of weight through a change of diet, then go you good thing. It could be a bigger influence than that if it snowballs. She wasn’t gardening, she was turning the first sod. It’s a display of the start of something good.
Mrs Obama rocks.

Well said :)

I second’s that :D

pepe said:

untidy? – moi? – oh ok – altho’ its more ‘unkempt’ – fastidiously untamed. LOL.
i do think we should consciously include our failures – otherwise it becomes a few people boasting and the rest of us feeling like failures.

I think I’ve unconsciously included my failures, LOL!

Muschee said:

bon008 said:

Longy said:

If Mrs Obama wants to plant a vegie patch and she has someone else do all the work. It aint all bad.
If Prince Charlie has 27 different species of some plant which he imported from all over the world at a carbon footprint equal to my annual electricity usage, It aint all bad.
These people aren’t gardeners, but i don’t think they pretend to be such. (Well, maybe Charlie does but i’m pretty sure his heart’s in the right place and he does get horseshit oin his boots).
They do however, influence a massive number of people and i’m sure they don’t really have much time to weed the carrots.
So if 1 person decides to grow their own food after watching the first lady turn a few sods in a bit of clobber befitting the first lady, then ripper bonza bewdy. We could find lots of negatives in these things. These people don’t just live in the same world as us. They run it.
If you look for positives though, then they’re there. If a million Americans started growing their own vegies, because the Whitehouse reckons it’s a good idea, then the effect i’m sure Mrs Obama is looking for is probably achieved. If a few families lose a bit of weight through a change of diet, then go you good thing. It could be a bigger influence than that if it snowballs. She wasn’t gardening, she was turning the first sod. It’s a display of the start of something good.
Mrs Obama rocks.

Well said :)

I second’s that :D

Third. :)

Well said :)

I second’s that :D

Third. :)
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go on then – fall for the charms of the lovely first lady.
i have to admit that getting school children involved is a good way of keeping it simple.

Haven’t even watched it yet will download it if someone deleted it of the recorder.

I tend to agree about the lack of gardening programs in drought area’s. Ours wouldn’t have survived at all but for hubbies grey water system. But i guess each stste has its own programming agenda. We are inland from the coorong and Lake alexandrina, and water is at a premium, soil is sandy and poor too.
I used to feel envy for the perfect picture gardens i saw on T.V and other forums, now i have realised my messy, companion planted hectic jumbled patch is the envy of my mates ( who i help when ever i can with seedlings, adult plants ready for planting out or spare veg when they are short), just ‘cos its green and producing.
Its nice that U.S.A president is trying to “do something” but sadly most of the wee people will loose heart looking at perfection and being unable to copy it. I would love to see famous people showing “real” gardens, warts and all, wilting Rhubarb and triffid invading rockmellon, couch grass growing in the bean patch and all. Oh well, time to dismount my soapbox, she calls out …“Next!”

AnneS said:

Actually another thing that I am finding a bit frustrating with GA at the moment is that some of the segments on preparing to plant etc are shown too far into the season. I reckon they should be shown at the beginning of the season…so that late starters like me have time to follow their advice

and no veggies for NSW this week where there, pete use to be good and said when to plant it all over australia. where was the white house part in GA?

veg gardener said:

AnneS said:

Actually another thing that I am finding a bit frustrating with GA at the moment is that some of the segments on preparing to plant etc are shown too far into the season. I reckon they should be shown at the beginning of the season…so that late starters like me have time to follow their advice

and no veggies for NSW this week where there, pete use to be good and said when to plant it all over australia. where was the white house part in GA?

Morning veg. Just a quick visit.

The White House wasn’t in GA. Pepe just wanted to talk about the new vegie garden started at the White House by Mrs Obama as well as commenting on GA and decided to put them in the same thread

AnneS said:

veg gardener said:

AnneS said:

Actually another thing that I am finding a bit frustrating with GA at the moment is that some of the segments on preparing to plant etc are shown too far into the season. I reckon they should be shown at the beginning of the season…so that late starters like me have time to follow their advice

and no veggies for NSW this week where there, pete use to be good and said when to plant it all over australia. where was the white house part in GA?

Morning veg. Just a quick visit.

The White House wasn’t in GA. Pepe just wanted to talk about the new vegie garden started at the White House by Mrs Obama as well as commenting on GA and decided to put them in the same thread

ok then.

it got started last year as well.

To tell the truth I no longer bother watching GA.

Until they find another “and that’s your bloomin’ lot” type presenter.

all glam and no plan.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25215128-2703,00.html is this the link to the new one.

Well Pete’s Patch is made for TV. It’s used for demonstrations, and because it’s “made for TV” it is so neat which I find very offputting…

Far more inspiring are the shots from the forumers here, showing the soaker hose roole up and leaning against a wall, the recycled stakes, all of uneven height but doing a great job nonetheless, the pile of pulled weeds to the side of a garden bed, the garden implements accidentally caught in the photo frame…who cares, my friends, if the ties are made from cotton summer pyjama daks, beyond repair?

I think Pepe’s point in another thread was the gardeners who view gardens as showpieces of the “must-haves”…as shown on TV…

…but I do appreciated Michelle Obama’s attempt to put home vegetable growing into the minds of the US population…hopefully she will “dress up” for the cameras in the fututer, in dungarees and wide-brimmed hat…

I think Pepe’s point in another thread was the gardeners who view gardens as showpieces of the “must-haves”…as shown on TV… **********

Sorry, what I meant was people who watch the gardening shows and think “I must have this” and “I must have that”…and using their gardens to show off that they’ve got insert plant, garden accessory here that was on the *insert gardening / home improvement show here” …they probably compare compost tumblers for Heaven’s sake…

veg gardener said:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25215128-2703,00.html is this the link to the new one.

If you go there (to the link) and type in “michelle obama + gardening” (without the quotation marks of course) into the search function field, you will be taken to a list of links, and you can read the articles from those links…

yep people see the gardens on TV and want them, and think the gardens always look like that, but not everyone has enough time to tend to a garden every single day. i know we have a nice lawn and garden beds but sometimes they are full of weeds like now and i have alot of weeding to do and mowing.

Turkeymum said:

I tend to agree about the lack of gardening programs in drought area’s. Ours wouldn’t have survived at all but for hubbies grey water system. But i guess each stste has its own programming agenda. We are inland from the coorong and Lake alexandrina, and water is at a premium, soil is sandy and poor too.
I used to feel envy for the perfect picture gardens i saw on T.V and other forums, now i have realised my messy, companion planted hectic jumbled patch is the envy of my mates ( who i help when ever i can with seedlings, adult plants ready for planting out or spare veg when they are short), just ‘cos its green and producing.
Its nice that U.S.A president is trying to “do something” but sadly most of the wee people will loose heart looking at perfection and being unable to copy it. I would love to see famous people showing “real” gardens, warts and all, wilting Rhubarb and triffid invading rockmellon, couch grass growing in the bean patch and all. Oh well, time to dismount my soapbox, she calls out …“Next!”

beautifully said and welcome turkeymum.

veg gardener said:

AnneS said:

Actually another thing that I am finding a bit frustrating with GA at the moment is that some of the segments on preparing to plant etc are shown too far into the season. I reckon they should be shown at the beginning of the season…so that late starters like me have time to follow their advice

and no veggies for NSW this week where there, pete use to be good and said when to plant it all over australia. where was the white house part in GA?

there was no white house part in GA – i just combined the two because i thought (at first) that michelle obama was going to have a ‘pete’s patch’ at the white house.

pepe said:

veg gardener said:

AnneS said:

Actually another thing that I am finding a bit frustrating with GA at the moment is that some of the segments on preparing to plant etc are shown too far into the season. I reckon they should be shown at the beginning of the season…so that late starters like me have time to follow their advice

and no veggies for NSW this week where there, pete use to be good and said when to plant it all over australia. where was the white house part in GA?

there was no white house part in GA – i just combined the two because i thought (at first) that michelle obama was going to have a ‘pete’s patch’ at the white house.

That’s alright pepe i was trying to see where they had the white house in it. Gardening australia is going down hill abit, been doing it for a few years i reckon, when they changed forums styles lost a few supports, and when pete left.

Dinetta said:

Well Pete’s Patch is made for TV. It’s used for demonstrations, and because it’s “made for TV” it is so neat which I find very offputting…

Far more inspiring are the shots from the forumers here, showing the soaker hose roole up and leaning against a wall, the recycled stakes, all of uneven height but doing a great job nonetheless, the pile of pulled weeds to the side of a garden bed, the garden implements accidentally caught in the photo frame…who cares, my friends, if the ties are made from cotton summer pyjama daks, beyond repair?

I think Pepe’s point in another thread was the gardeners who view gardens as showpieces of the “must-haves”…as shown on TV…

…but I do appreciated Michelle Obama’s attempt to put home vegetable growing into the minds of the US population…hopefully she will “dress up” for the cameras in the fututer, in dungarees and wide-brimmed hat…

well put – i worry that a whole lot of people will spend $,000’s on a showy setup and then realise they don’t have time, knowledge or the interest to make the garden a success.

Dinetta said:

…but I do appreciated Michelle Obama’s attempt to put home vegetable growing into the minds of the US population…hopefully she will “dress up” for the cameras in the fututer, in dungarees and wide-brimmed hat…

Do they make dungarees at “Versache” or “channell”???, diamonte studded gardening hats, designer gardening gloves as seen on the paris runway’s, somehow i think, although her heart is in the right place, you will never actually see her doin’ the gardenin’, i mean “Heck” can you imagine the secret service trampelin the tomatoes so that Mrs O can weed her carrots? Shears in her back pocket, twine in her mouth, trying to stake out the tomatoes. Hands and knees searchin thru the greenery to find the catterpillars, so the week old chicks can have their first taste of bugdom? I would like to see a gardening program like that ( oh heck, preggers brain again) english organic chef fella, that bought that farm and showed us all how he did it, from the messy garden to the home built fox proof chook house. Yes, the hairy dude. Can’t think of his name to save myself.
I have never known another TV guy to go slug hunting at the crack of dawn. In his pj’s and a coat. Now thats gardening!!

Turkeymum said:

Dinetta said:

…but I do appreciated Michelle Obama’s attempt to put home vegetable growing into the minds of the US population…hopefully she will “dress up” for the cameras in the fututer, in dungarees and wide-brimmed hat…

Do they make dungarees at “Versache” or “channell”???, diamonte studded gardening hats, designer gardening gloves as seen on the paris runway’s, somehow i think, although her heart is in the right place, you will never actually see her doin’ the gardenin’, i mean “Heck” can you imagine the secret service trampelin the tomatoes so that Mrs O can weed her carrots? Shears in her back pocket, twine in her mouth, trying to stake out the tomatoes. Hands and knees searchin thru the greenery to find the catterpillars, so the week old chicks can have their first taste of bugdom? I would like to see a gardening program like that ( oh heck, preggers brain again) english organic chef fella, that bought that farm and showed us all how he did it, from the messy garden to the home built fox proof chook house. Yes, the hairy dude. Can’t think of his name to save myself.
I have never known another TV guy to go slug hunting at the crack of dawn. In his pj’s and a coat. Now thats gardening!!

was it Jamie Oliver? they will have the gardeners doing there new veggie patch. she will just get her photo taken acting like shes working in it.

Turkeymum said:

I would like to see a gardening program like that ( oh heck, preggers brain again) english organic chef fella, that bought that farm and showed us all how he did it, from the messy garden to the home built fox proof chook house. Yes, the hairy dude. Can’t think of his name to save myself.
I have never known another TV guy to go slug hunting at the crack of dawn. In his pj’s and a coat. Now thats gardening!!

Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall :)

veg gardener said:

Turkeymum said:

Dinetta said:

…but I do appreciated Michelle Obama’s attempt to put home vegetable growing into the minds of the US population…hopefully she will “dress up” for the cameras in the fututer, in dungarees and wide-brimmed hat…

Do they make dungarees at “Versache” or “channell”???, diamonte studded gardening hats, designer gardening gloves as seen on the paris runway’s, somehow i think, although her heart is in the right place, you will never actually see her doin’ the gardenin’, i mean “Heck” can you imagine the secret service trampelin the tomatoes so that Mrs O can weed her carrots? Shears in her back pocket, twine in her mouth, trying to stake out the tomatoes. Hands and knees searchin thru the greenery to find the catterpillars, so the week old chicks can have their first taste of bugdom?

was it Jamie Oliver? they will have the gardeners doing there new veggie patch. she will just get her photo taken acting like shes working in it.

Michelle Obama was merely turning the first sod I gather – a suitably appropriate job for a first lady. Like when the CEO of a company in his suit will turn the first sod on a new building site. It is purely ceremonial. Not even the Americans will expect her to do the gardening herself, surely?

bluegreen said:

veg gardener said:

Turkeymum said:

Do they make dungarees at “Versache” or “channell”???, diamonte studded gardening hats, designer gardening gloves as seen on the paris runway’s, somehow i think, although her heart is in the right place, you will never actually see her doin’ the gardenin’, i mean “Heck” can you imagine the secret service trampelin the tomatoes so that Mrs O can weed her carrots? Shears in her back pocket, twine in her mouth, trying to stake out the tomatoes. Hands and knees searchin thru the greenery to find the catterpillars, so the week old chicks can have their first taste of bugdom?

was it Jamie Oliver? they will have the gardeners doing there new veggie patch. she will just get her photo taken acting like shes working in it.

Michelle Obama was merely turning the first sod I gather – a suitably appropriate job for a first lady. Like when the CEO of a company in his suit will turn the first sod on a new building site. It is purely ceremonial. Not even the Americans will expect her to do the gardening herself, surely?

they wont expect her doing it at all. seen her husband and kevin rudd on tv this morining.

veg gardener said:

bluegreen said:

veg gardener said:

was it Jamie Oliver? they will have the gardeners doing there new veggie patch. she will just get her photo taken acting like shes working in it.

Michelle Obama was merely turning the first sod I gather – a suitably appropriate job for a first lady. Like when the CEO of a company in his suit will turn the first sod on a new building site. It is purely ceremonial. Not even the Americans will expect her to do the gardening herself, surely?

they wont expect her doing it at all. seen her husband and kevin rudd on tv this morining.

I’m not saying it to put her down. I applaud her for setting the example as appropriate to her position. She may well go pull some weeds and plant some seed. She may enjoy getting her hands dirty. But as first lady I expect she will be too busy doing things of state.

Dinetta said:

I think Pepe’s point in another thread was the gardeners who view gardens as showpieces of the “must-haves”…as shown on TV… **********

Sorry, what I meant was people who watch the gardening shows and think “I must have this” and “I must have that”…and using their gardens to show off that they’ve got insert plant, garden accessory here that was on the *insert gardening / home improvement show here” …they probably compare compost tumblers for Heaven’s sake…

Do they exist though? I’ve never met anyone like that. Mind you I don’t get out much ;)

I don’t have a problem with TV shows showing picture perfect, neat gardens that are beyond the reach of most of us mere mortals – to my view it’s all a on a spectrum. There are people out there with lots of time and little money, people with little time and lots of money, people who love the look of a scruffy garden, and people who can’t stand seeing a stray twig on a swept path.

I watch gardening shows to get ideas/inspiration/advice for my garden, not to see a pretty garden and just copy it. A lot of it is beyond my reach but that’s something I have to come to terms with – I can either give up a lot of other things in my life and reach my gardening goals sooner, or I can relax a bit and accept that my garden is an ongoing process and not something I will ever finish. I choose the latter, for the other path surely leads to madness grin

Back to catching up on posts..

bluegreen said:

veg gardener said:

bluegreen said:

Michelle Obama was merely turning the first sod I gather – a suitably appropriate job for a first lady. Like when the CEO of a company in his suit will turn the first sod on a new building site. It is purely ceremonial. Not even the Americans will expect her to do the gardening herself, surely?

they wont expect her doing it at all. seen her husband and kevin rudd on tv this morining.

I’m not saying it to put her down. I applaud her for setting the example as appropriate to her position. She may well go pull some weeds and plant some seed. She may enjoy getting her hands dirty. But as first lady I expect she will be too busy doing things of state.

yep i know what you mean she may enjoy it and hopefully it sets an example to others. May be the people who are in Parliament in Australia should do it as well, set a example and have others follow them but, they wont most probably.

bluegreen said:

veg gardener said:

Turkeymum said:

Do they make dungarees at “Versache” or “channell”???, diamonte studded gardening hats, designer gardening gloves as seen on the paris runway’s, somehow i think, although her heart is in the right place, you will never actually see her doin’ the gardenin’, i mean “Heck” can you imagine the secret service trampelin the tomatoes so that Mrs O can weed her carrots? Shears in her back pocket, twine in her mouth, trying to stake out the tomatoes. Hands and knees searchin thru the greenery to find the catterpillars, so the week old chicks can have their first taste of bugdom?

was it Jamie Oliver? they will have the gardeners doing there new veggie patch. she will just get her photo taken acting like shes working in it.

Michelle Obama was merely turning the first sod I gather – a suitably appropriate job for a first lady. Like when the CEO of a company in his suit will turn the first sod on a new building site. It is purely ceremonial. Not even the Americans will expect her to do the gardening herself, surely?

Does it matter? If she wasn’t into gardening before she became first lady, should she now try to become to be a gardener just to set the right example? Some people are into it, some aren’t. If the people who aren’t into it want to pay other people to do the work for them, why not?

Oh, sorry – now I get to the top of the posts I realise I’m saying things that have sort of already been said in different ways – sorry :)

bon008 said:

Oh, sorry – now I get to the top of the posts I realise I’m saying things that have sort of already been said in different ways – sorry :)

its alright bon everyone has different views the i use to do a local garden every second weekend i weed all the beds and then the next time i was there i had to re weed it never got much done. and they had all these plans for gardens. and it was all rock and clay.

veg gardener said:

bluegreen said:

veg gardener said:

they wont expect her doing it at all. seen her husband and kevin rudd on tv this morining.

I’m not saying it to put her down. I applaud her for setting the example as appropriate to her position. She may well go pull some weeds and plant some seed. She may enjoy getting her hands dirty. But as first lady I expect she will be too busy doing things of state.

yep i know what you mean she may enjoy it and hopefully it sets an example to others. May be the people who are in Parliament in Australia should do it as well, set a example and have others follow them but, they wont most probably.

you never know, she may convince Mr Rudd yet :)

bluegreen said:

veg gardener said:

bluegreen said:

I’m not saying it to put her down. I applaud her for setting the example as appropriate to her position. She may well go pull some weeds and plant some seed. She may enjoy getting her hands dirty. But as first lady I expect she will be too busy doing things of state.

yep i know what you mean she may enjoy it and hopefully it sets an example to others. May be the people who are in Parliament in Australia should do it as well, set a example and have others follow them but, they wont most probably.

you never know, she may convince Mr Rudd yet :)

thats ture he may start it when he gets back here.

somehow i think, although her heart is in the right place, you will never actually see her doin’ the gardenin’,
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She never said “i want to grow my own vegies”.
She said she wants her family to eat organically grown food, grown at the whitehouse.
So she dug a hole as a photo opportunity and now there is probably a team of gardeners who have a little extra work to do. ie, build and maintain a vegie patch. They may even employ a person or persons to do the vegie patch.
I dunno where the whole idea she was gonna do the gardening even came from.

If she said her favourite flower was a rose, and she was photographed clipping one for the Pres to shove in his lapel, it wouldn’t mean she wanted to tend the roses.
If i said i like Holden cars, and i cleaned the windscreen, it doesn’t make me the mechanic.
Sheesh! Is someone missing the point here?

Longy said:

somehow i think, although her heart is in the right place, you will never actually see her doin’ the gardenin’,
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She never said “i want to grow my own vegies”.
She said she wants her family to eat organically grown food, grown at the whitehouse.
So she dug a hole as a photo opportunity and now there is probably a team of gardeners who have a little extra work to do. ie, build and maintain a vegie patch. They may even employ a person or persons to do the vegie patch.
I dunno where the whole idea she was gonna do the gardening even came from.

if you read one it has already been said.

if you read one it has already been said.
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Huh? If you’re saying i should read the other replies to this post, yes, i have.
If it was said and i reiterated it, is there a problem with that?
However, i can only guess at what your post means VG, because it makes no sense.

Longy said:

if you read one it has already been said.
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Huh? If you’re saying i should read the other replies to this post, yes, i have.
If it was said and i reiterated it, is there a problem with that?
However, i can only guess at what your post means VG, because it makes no sense.

not everyone is prefect, i ment on people do make spelling mistakes bet you make heaps when you where younger, I have already posted saying she wont be doing all the work.

veg gardener said:

Longy said:

if you read one it has already been said.
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Huh? If you’re saying i should read the other replies to this post, yes, i have.
If it was said and i reiterated it, is there a problem with that?
However, i can only guess at what your post means VG, because it makes no sense.

not everyone is prefect, i ment on people do make spelling mistakes bet you make heaps when you where younger, I have already posted saying she wont be doing all the work.

Nothing to do with spelling VG.
The comment made no sense.
If you make a comment, is it OK if i make one as well, if it makes the same points or not?

Longy said:

veg gardener said:

Longy said:

Nothing to do with spelling VG.
The comment made no sense.
If you make a comment, is it OK if i make one as well, if it makes the same points or not?

Arvo Longy, bon and Muschee.

I think part of the issue is that some people can articulate their thoughts better in writing than others…but does that make the views of those less articulate people of less value?.. I think not.

Not understanding what a respondent really means is one of the inherent problems of a forum or chat room….especially when people try to type responses quickly. Quite often what we are thinking doesn’t translate well to the written word

AnneS said:

Longy said:

veg gardener said:

Longy said:

Nothing to do with spelling VG.
The comment made no sense.
If you make a comment, is it OK if i make one as well, if it makes the same points or not?

Arvo Longy, bon and Muschee.

I think part of the issue is that some people can articulate their thoughts better in writing than others…but does that make the views of those less articulate people of less value?.. I think not.

Not understanding what a respondent really means is one of the inherent problems of a forum or chat room….especially when people try to type responses quickly. Quite often what we are thinking doesn’t translate well to the written word

and may be some people aren’t great spellers.

Longy said:

veg gardener said:

Longy said:

if you read one it has already been said.
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Huh? If you’re saying i should read the other replies to this post, yes, i have.
If it was said and i reiterated it, is there a problem with that?
However, i can only guess at what your post means VG, because it makes no sense.

not everyone is prefect, i ment on people do make spelling mistakes bet you make heaps when you where younger, I have already posted saying she wont be doing all the work.

Nothing to do with spelling VG.
The comment made no sense.
If you make a comment, is it OK if i make one as well, if it makes the same points or not?

I also take your point Longy that we should all be able to add our own thoughts to the threads, even if it has been said before and/or worded slightly differently

veg gardener said:

AnneS said:

Longy said:

Nothing to do with spelling VG.
The comment made no sense.
If you make a comment, is it OK if i make one as well, if it makes the same points or not?

Arvo Longy, bon and Muschee.

I think part of the issue is that some people can articulate their thoughts better in writing than others…but does that make the views of those less articulate people of less value?.. I think not.

Not understanding what a respondent really means is one of the inherent problems of a forum or chat room….especially when people try to type responses quickly. Quite often what we are thinking doesn’t translate well to the written word

and may be some people aren’t great spellers.

There are bigger barriers to understanding than spelling VG – if you spell something wrong people can usually work out which word you meant, but it’s punctuation that makes the biggest difference I think. If three sentences are all strung together with no full stops, commas etc, then it can be really hard to decipher what the other person is saying.

Spelling is an ongoing thing that you learn in life – lately I find myself forgetting how to spell certain words that I never used to have a problem with, simply because in the last few years I’ve hardly ever read or written them. So the more reading and writing you can do, the better your spelling will become.

bon008 said:

veg gardener said:

AnneS said:

Arvo Longy, bon and Muschee.

I think part of the issue is that some people can articulate their thoughts better in writing than others…but does that make the views of those less articulate people of less value?.. I think not.

Not understanding what a respondent really means is one of the inherent problems of a forum or chat room….especially when people try to type responses quickly. Quite often what we are thinking doesn’t translate well to the written word

and may be some people aren’t great spellers.

There are bigger barriers to understanding than spelling VG – if you spell something wrong people can usually work out which word you meant, but it’s punctuation that makes the biggest difference I think. If three sentences are all strung together with no full stops, commas etc, then it can be really hard to decipher what the other person is saying.

Spelling is an ongoing thing that you learn in life – lately I find myself forgetting how to spell certain words that I never used to have a problem with, simply because in the last few years I’ve hardly ever read or written them. So the more reading and writing you can do, the better your spelling will become.

You are right there bon…but the rest of us still need to be tolerant

Hey pepe,
I think you can say that this thread has been suitably hijacked!

AnneS said:

bon008 said:

veg gardener said:

and may be some people aren’t great spellers.

There are bigger barriers to understanding than spelling VG – if you spell something wrong people can usually work out which word you meant, but it’s punctuation that makes the biggest difference I think. If three sentences are all strung together with no full stops, commas etc, then it can be really hard to decipher what the other person is saying.

Spelling is an ongoing thing that you learn in life – lately I find myself forgetting how to spell certain words that I never used to have a problem with, simply because in the last few years I’ve hardly ever read or written them. So the more reading and writing you can do, the better your spelling will become.

You are right there bon…but the rest of us still need to be tolerant

True :) If I come across a post I really can’t understand, I usually just ignore it rather than query it. This isn’t really ideal in terms of communication, but I don’t want to come across as being picky if I keep saying “what was that supposed to mean?”

That’s my version of tolerance, anyway :D

True :) If I come across a post I really can’t understand, I usually just ignore it rather than query it. This isn’t really ideal in terms of communication, but I don’t want to come across as being picky if I keep saying “what was that supposed to mean?”

That’s my version of tolerance, anyway :D

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Mine too

AnneS said:

Hey pepe,
I think you can say that this thread has been suitably hijacked!

chuckle – not really – language is pertinent on a forum
- once it turns into a discussion on the pain of childbirth – then its been hijacked LOL.

speaking of which -
ms obama did say -“My girls like vegetables more if they taste good,” Obama said, according to pool reports. Later she added: “Especially if they’re involved in planting it and picking it, they were willing to give it a try.”

so, if that’s an accurate quote, she does want her kids to be planting and picking so they know where food comes from. apparently a lot of primary school kids think carrots are born in a plastic wrapper.
(‘scuse lack of capitals – i’m trying to be sms savvy)

pepe said:

AnneS said:

Hey pepe,
I think you can say that this thread has been suitably hijacked!

chuckle – not really – language is pertinent on a forum
- once it turns into a discussion on the pain of childbirth – then its been hijacked LOL.

speaking of which -
ms obama did say -“My girls like vegetables more if they taste good,” Obama said, according to pool reports. Later she added: “Especially if they’re involved in planting it and picking it, they were willing to give it a try.”

so, if that’s an accurate quote, she does want her kids to be planting and picking so they know where food comes from. apparently a lot of primary school kids think carrots are born in a plastic wrapper.
(‘scuse lack of capitals – i’m trying to be sms savvy)

I can believe that. I’ve been reading this website lately – http://www.notalwaysright.com/

Here’s an example:
Cafe | Detroit, MI, USA

Customer: “What does the mango smoothie taste like? Does it taste like oranges?”

Me: “It tastes like…mangoes?”

Customer: exasperated “No, mango is a COLOR. I want to know what it TASTES like.”

Me: “Sir, mango is a fruit. The mango smoothie tastes like mango.”

Customer: “Ugh, whatever. What does the strawberry one taste like?”

Me: “It tastes like strawberries.”

Customer: “I’ll take one of those!”

Coworker: to me “You should’ve told him it tasted like red.”

Now i’m trying to figure out what it has to do with spelling.

I have already posted saying she wont be doing all the work.
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Yes i realise that VG. It’s just that i said it too, possibly being a little more ‘articulate’.
Then you kinda jumped down my throat for it.
So i returned the favour.

I still don’t know why spelling has come into it.

Longy said:

I have already posted saying she wont be doing all the work.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Yes i realise that VG. It’s just that i said it too, possibly being a little more ‘articulate’.
Then you kinda jumped down my throat for it.
So i returned the favour.

I still don’t know why spelling has come into it.

I think because of a misunderstanding. VG thought you were having a go at him for being a poor speller. Hence my comments about forums

Well, i hope Mrs O and her kiddies do get their hands in the soil, though i doubt it, it may be something the kids enjoy.
If not though, the example they’re setting is still a good one. Might even send Maccas to the wall…….

We can only dream (about sending Maccas to the wall…and all other fast food outlets)

Longy said:

I have already posted saying she wont be doing all the work.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Yes i realise that VG. It’s just that i said it too, possibly being a little more ‘articulate’.
Then you kinda jumped down my throat for it.
So i returned the favour.

I still don’t know why spelling has come into it.

who’s a grumble-bum today?

;)

Dinetta said:

We can only dream (about sending Maccas to the wall…and all other fast food outlets)

:) :)

You’d better not be including Nandos in that statement suspicious look

Just ‘cause other people eat it too much doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to have fast food when I wanna :D

There are bigger barriers to understanding than spelling VG – if you spell something wrong people can usually work out which word you meant, but it’s punctuation that makes the biggest difference I think. If three sentences are all strung together with no full stops, commas etc, then it can be really hard to decipher what the other person is saying.
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This is how my mother writes. Everybody who receives her letters, loves them…punctuation when her pen comes to rest, no paragraphs, just a train of thought or a narrative penned as news to the recipient…She expresses herself very well in writing and speech…

Having been a student of English language from the Anglo-Saxon literature to early modern, I quite like idiom…English wasn’t always spoken as it is now…plays and poetry weren’t always written in “correct” English…let’s face it, poetry is often a puzzle..punctuation is not a strong point in poetry! LOL

Dinetta said:

There are bigger barriers to understanding than spelling VG – if you spell something wrong people can usually work out which word you meant, but it’s punctuation that makes the biggest difference I think. If three sentences are all strung together with no full stops, commas etc, then it can be really hard to decipher what the other person is saying.
++++++++++++++

This is how my mother writes. Everybody who receives her letters, loves them…punctuation when her pen comes to rest, no paragraphs, just a train of thought or a narrative penned as news to the recipient…She expresses herself very well in writing and speech…

Having been a student of English language from the Anglo-Saxon literature to early modern, I quite like idiom…English wasn’t always spoken as it is now…plays and poetry weren’t always written in “correct” English…let’s face it, poetry is often a puzzle..punctuation is not a strong point in poetry! LOL

and where would James Joyce be without stream-of-conciousness writing. LOL

AnneS said:

Dinetta said:

This is how my mother writes. Everybody who receives her letters, loves them…punctuation when her pen comes to rest, no paragraphs, just a train of thought or a narrative penned as news to the recipient…She expresses herself very well in writing and speech…

Having been a student of English language from the Anglo-Saxon literature to early modern, I quite like idiom…English wasn’t always spoken as it is now…plays and poetry weren’t always written in “correct” English…let’s face it, poetry is often a puzzle..punctuation is not a strong point in poetry! LOL

and where would James Joyce be without stream-of-conciousness writing. LOL

I never did study him…never felt enticed to read him either…don’t know why some of these people just write a book on psychology and be done with it…but then some supposedly “great” modern literature annoys me…

don’t know why some of these people just write a book on psychology and be done with it
d’uh
“I don’t know why some of these people don’t just write a book on psychology and be done with it’

Dinetta said:

AnneS said:

Dinetta said:

This is how my mother writes. Everybody who receives her letters, loves them…punctuation when her pen comes to rest, no paragraphs, just a train of thought or a narrative penned as news to the recipient…She expresses herself very well in writing and speech…

Having been a student of English language from the Anglo-Saxon literature to early modern, I quite like idiom…English wasn’t always spoken as it is now…plays and poetry weren’t always written in “correct” English…let’s face it, poetry is often a puzzle..punctuation is not a strong point in poetry! LOL

and where would James Joyce be without stream-of-conciousness writing. LOL

I never did study him…never felt enticed to read him either…don’t know why some of these people just write a book on psychology and be done with it…but then some supposedly “great” modern literature annoys me…

I tried to read Ullyses when I was at school..but it was way too hard to get into.

AnneS said:

I tried to read Ullyses when I was at school..but it was way too hard to get into.

Who cares what the author thinks, if he’s going to take the whole book to tell you? I just want a story with narration, description, dialogue…so that while I’m reading there’s kind of like a movie going through my head…

Hey pepe, I think you can say that this thread has been suitably hijacked!
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If it wasn’t before, it sure is now.

Crikey VG. See what happens when the ladies get involved……….

Dinetta said:

AnneS said:

I tried to read Ullyses when I was at school..but it was way too hard to get into.

Who cares what the author thinks, if he’s going to take the whole book to tell you? I just want a story with narration, description, dialogue…so that while I’m reading there’s kind of like a movie going through my head…

I’ll stick with Pride and Prejudice

Longy said:

Hey pepe, I think you can say that this thread has been suitably hijacked!
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If it wasn’t before, it sure is now.

Crikey VG. See what happens when the ladies get involved……….

lol.

AnneS said:

Dinetta said:

AnneS said:

I tried to read Ullyses when I was at school..but it was way too hard to get into.

Who cares what the author thinks, if he’s going to take the whole book to tell you? I just want a story with narration, description, dialogue…so that while I’m reading there’s kind of like a movie going through my head…

I’ll stick with Pride and Prejudice

Now there’s an author who has a way with words…

She can expose her point of view without carefully delineating all the thinking you need to do to get there…

well – since everyone else is raving….

i had a look at those perth best garden entries and i thought to myself – ‘if i were in one of those comps i’d sweep the dirt paths as well’.
…and then i took the 2 day old couscous from the fridge and i noticed that the lemon thyme and other herbs maggie beer’s recipe had specified, made it extremely desirable, even after two days.
so, i reasoned, there is a place for superb quality stuff.
which means my earlier criticism of demonstration gardens is probably wrong. they don’t have to produce veges at a reasonable price. they are just a piece of marketing. they demonstrate the unreal ideal.
there is a place for exquisite nuances and subtle flavours in cooking, so there is a place for the gardens of paradise.
altho’ i won’t be changing – much.

since everyone else is raving….
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stark raving.

yep i see what happens when they get invloved i have to live with 2 of them.

veg gardener said:

yep i see what happens when they get invloved i have to live with 2 of them.

Only 2! When i was your age i had 7 to live with.
It’s a wonder i can string 2 words together.
Keep an eye on them.
They do stuff like hide things and then pay out because you can’t find them and then find them themselves really quickly
just to make you look silly.

Longy said:

veg gardener said:

yep i see what happens when they get invloved i have to live with 2 of them.

Only 2! When i was your age i had 7 to live with.
It’s a wonder i can string 2 words together.
Keep an eye on them.
They do stuff like hide things and then pay out because you can’t find them and then find them themselves really quickly
just to make you look silly.

ahhh! now I understand!! lol!!!

Longy said:

veg gardener said:

yep i see what happens when they get invloved i have to live with 2 of them.

Only 2! When i was your age i had 7 to live with.
It’s a wonder i can string 2 words together.
Keep an eye on them.
They do stuff like hide things and then pay out because you can’t find them and then find them themselves really quickly
just to make you look silly.

yep, i normally dont go near them unless i need to. always getting in trouble.

found this link about the white house garden it has a blog http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/09/03/20/Spring-Gardening/

veg gardener said:

found this link about the white house garden it has a blog http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/09/03/20/Spring-Gardening/

now that’s better. michelle and the kids playing in the soil – very good

found this link about the white house garden it has a blog http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/09/03/20/Spring-Gardening/
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Morning veg and anyone else around. I had a bit of a look last week. Will be interesting to see how it progresses