Right back through biohistory these two things have had overlapping aspects, in many ways they’re the same thing.

But would you read about it?

What would the subject be, the formalism or science that best delved the details of such a thing?

Evolutionary psychology?

transition said:

Right back through biohistory these two things have had overlapping aspects, in many ways they’re the same thing.

But would you read about it?

What would the subject be, the formalism or science that best delved the details of such a thing?

Evolutionary psychology?

This was given an apect in the clan of the cave bear series. Penned by Jean M. Auel.

aspect?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clan_of_the_Cave_Bear

roughbarked said:

transition said:

Right back through biohistory these two things have had overlapping aspects, in many ways they’re the same thing.

But would you read about it?

What would the subject be, the formalism or science that best delved the details of such a thing?

Evolutionary psychology?

This was given an aspect in the clan of the cave bear series. Penned by Jean M. Auel.

I’ve read three of the series. But do you mean the aspect of “evolutionary psychology” or “privacy/shelter”? I don’t remember much about “privacy/shelter” in it.

If looking for a connection between “need for shelter” and “desire for privacy” then Missy suggests looking up archaeology, the when and why of the appearance of multiple rooms within a single house.

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

transition said:

Right back through biohistory these two things have had overlapping aspects, in many ways they’re the same thing.

But would you read about it?

What would the subject be, the formalism or science that best delved the details of such a thing?

Evolutionary psychology?

This was given an aspect in the clan of the cave bear series. Penned by Jean M. Auel.

I’ve read three of the series. But do you mean the aspect of “evolutionary psychology” or “privacy/shelter”? I don’t remember much about “privacy/shelter” in it.

If looking for a connection between “need for shelter” and “desire for privacy” then Missy suggests looking up archaeology, the when and why of the appearance of multiple rooms within a single house.

I think the first differentiation was between an eating combined common area and a bedroom area which could not be accessed by everyone. So you have there a social and status thing.

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

transition said:

Right back through biohistory these two things have had overlapping aspects, in many ways they’re the same thing.

But would you read about it?

What would the subject be, the formalism or science that best delved the details of such a thing?

Evolutionary psychology?

This was given an aspect in the clan of the cave bear series. Penned by Jean M. Auel.

I’ve read three of the series. But do you mean the aspect of “evolutionary psychology” or “privacy/shelter”? I don’t remember much about “privacy/shelter” in it.

If looking for a connection between “need for shelter” and “desire for privacy” then Missy suggests looking up archaeology, the when and why of the appearance of multiple rooms within a single house.

It wasn’t in the first or maybe the second but there was a point where they were all restricted in caves and living on stored mammoth and perhaps in other poarts of the tale where references were made of curtained sections of abode.

AwesomeO said:

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

This was given an aspect in the clan of the cave bear series. Penned by Jean M. Auel.

I’ve read three of the series. But do you mean the aspect of “evolutionary psychology” or “privacy/shelter”? I don’t remember much about “privacy/shelter” in it.

If looking for a connection between “need for shelter” and “desire for privacy” then Missy suggests looking up archaeology, the when and why of the appearance of multiple rooms within a single house.

I think the first differentiation was between an eating combined common area and a bedroom area which could not be accessed by everyone. So you have there a social and status thing.

Yes.

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

This was given an aspect in the clan of the cave bear series. Penned by Jean M. Auel.

I’ve read three of the series. But do you mean the aspect of “evolutionary psychology” or “privacy/shelter”? I don’t remember much about “privacy/shelter” in it.

If looking for a connection between “need for shelter” and “desire for privacy” then Missy suggests looking up archaeology, the when and why of the appearance of multiple rooms within a single house.

It wasn’t in the first or maybe the second but there was a point where they were all restricted in caves and living on stored mammoth and perhaps in other poarts of the tale where references were made of curtained sections of abode.

Sorry, I was leading myself away to the point where sexual couples needed privacy when in actual fact, Ayla sought safe domestic privacy from the people that raised and fucked with her at her earliest opportunity, in the first book.

I was more thinking like when my dog parks among the succulents, shrubs and trees, out of the sun, wind, rain or whatever, that he’s staying out of the way, out of view somewhat (often), minding his own business, but can still see out quite well.

that human houses are both shelter and privacy (both, the overlap) is obvious enough.

birds in trees find both privacy and shelter. Privacy is a type of shelter anyway.

it strikes me that a central aspect of human privacy is to keep some distance from other humans with less of an appreciation of it. I’ve wondered sometimes if there’s a recursion in that idea, but I think just the opposite in-practice.

anyway, the generalized effect of privacy is to reduce the proximity impositions of others (space between, operating space). Unwanted intrusions of course can be electronic these days.

rabbits in the rabbit hole, there’s a fairly solid example of both privacy and shelter.

transition said:

I was more thinking like when my dog parks among the succulents, shrubs and trees, out of the sun, wind, rain or whatever, that he’s staying out of the way, out of view somewhat (often), minding his own business, but can still see out quite well.

that human houses are both shelter and privacy (both, the overlap) is obvious enough.

birds in trees find both privacy and shelter. Privacy is a type of shelter anyway.

it strikes me that a central aspect of human privacy is to keep some distance from other humans with less of an appreciation of it. I’ve wondered sometimes if there’s a recursion in that idea, but I think just the opposite in-practice.

anyway, the generalized effect of privacy is to reduce the proximity impositions of others (space between, operating space). Unwanted intrusions of course can be electronic these days.

rabbits in the rabbit hole, there’s a fairly solid example of both privacy and shelter.

Clearly you haven’t watched aborigines diggiing them out with a stick.

Thanks for the clan of cave bear clarification roughbarked.

quote=roughbarked]
Clearly you haven’t watched aborigines diggiing rabbits out with a stick.

A slight anachronism there?

;-)

mollwollfumble said:

Thanks for the clan of cave bear clarification roughbarked.

quote=roughbarked]
Clearly you haven’t watched aborigines diggiing rabbits out with a stick.

A slight anachronism there?

;-)

No, aborigines have had sticks for a long time.

captain_spalding said:

mollwollfumble said:

Thanks for the clan of cave bear clarification roughbarked.

quote=roughbarked]
Clearly you haven’t watched aborigines diggiing rabbits out with a stick.

A slight anachronism there?

;-)

No, aborigines have had sticks for a long time.

Bit of a sticky conversation.,