Why is is that when some robots are left in darkness, they will seek out the light? Why is it that when robots are stored in an empty space, they will group together, rather than stand alone? How do we explain this behavior …

Programmed to seek light for solar energy input to retain settings even whilst powered down.

Programmed to, when idle, not stand in the middle of corridors but to go to corners of rooms or out of the way of traffic.

The good doctor didn’t know these as they were hidden in the legacy code and amongst the billions of lines of code.

AwesomeO said:

Why is is that when some robots are left in darkness, they will seek out the light? Why is it that when robots are stored in an empty space, they will group together, rather than stand alone? How do we explain this behavior …

Programmed to seek light for solar energy input to retain settings even whilst powered down.

Programmed to, when idle, not stand in the middle of corridors but to go to corners of rooms or out of the way of traffic.

The good doctor didn’t know these as they were hidden in the legacy code and amongst the billions of lines of code.

Have the drugs finally kicked in?

:)

sibeen said:

AwesomeO said:

Why is is that when some robots are left in darkness, they will seek out the light? Why is it that when robots are stored in an empty space, they will group together, rather than stand alone? How do we explain this behavior …

Programmed to seek light for solar energy input to retain settings even whilst powered down.

Programmed to, when idle, not stand in the middle of corridors but to go to corners of rooms or out of the way of traffic.

The good doctor didn’t know these as they were hidden in the legacy code and amongst the billions of lines of code.

Have the drugs finally kicked in?

:)

Nope, just saw the movie and thought there may be explanations other than mystical. Plus I think I am the only person on the internets to do so.

AwesomeO said:

sibeen said:

AwesomeO said:

Why is is that when some robots are left in darkness, they will seek out the light? Why is it that when robots are stored in an empty space, they will group together, rather than stand alone? How do we explain this behavior …

Programmed to seek light for solar energy input to retain settings even whilst powered down.

Programmed to, when idle, not stand in the middle of corridors but to go to corners of rooms or out of the way of traffic.

The good doctor didn’t know these as they were hidden in the legacy code and amongst the billions of lines of code.

Have the drugs finally kicked in?

:)

Nope, just saw the movie and thought there may be explanations other than mystical. Plus I think I am the only person on the internets to do so.

I haven’t seen the movie so can’t comment. I had read all the books / short stories many years ago.

> I haven’t seen the movie so can’t comment. I had read all the books / short stories many years ago.

Ditto.

As a series of Asimov’s stories it basically seeks to explore logical paradoxes generated by Asimov’s fictional three laws of robotics. It introduces us to Robbie.

Is the film faithful to that?

mollwollfumble said:

> I haven’t seen the movie so can’t comment. I had read all the books / short stories many years ago.

Ditto.

As a series of Asimov’s stories it basically seeks to explore logical paradoxes generated by Asimov’s fictional three laws of robotics. It introduces us to Robbie.

Is the film faithful to that?

Not that I saw, though Will does have a prejudice against robots because they made a rational decision when he was trapped and drowning in a car, which he believes a human would not have made. its more an exploration of if I think enough am I sentient, with hints of hive intelligence.

On a slight tangent, earlier this year I downloaded the Foundation series. It would have been well over thirty years since I first read it.

It has not aged well. I got through the first book, stumbled into the second, but only got around a third of a way through it before giving up.

sibeen said:

On a slight tangent, earlier this year I downloaded the Foundation series. It would have been well over thirty years since I first read it.

It has not aged well. I got through the first book, stumbled into the second, but only got around a third of a way through it before giving up.

I should revisit Lensmen, though probably a bit the same.

Jeebers, just revisited Lensmen on wiki. Don’t think I will bother, got a whiff of Scientology about it as well. But being 1950s gear may not work as sci fi anymore and maybe not good enough to stand on its own.

sibeen said:

On a slight tangent, earlier this year I downloaded the Foundation series. It would have been well over thirty years since I first read it.

It has not aged well. I got through the first book, stumbled into the second, but only got around a third of a way through it before giving up.

But was that the books not ageing well …

or the reader? ;)

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

On a slight tangent, earlier this year I downloaded the Foundation series. It would have been well over thirty years since I first read it.

It has not aged well. I got through the first book, stumbled into the second, but only got around a third of a way through it before giving up.

But was that the books not ageing well …

or the reader? ;)

Ouch.

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

On a slight tangent, earlier this year I downloaded the Foundation series. It would have been well over thirty years since I first read it.

It has not aged well. I got through the first book, stumbled into the second, but only got around a third of a way through it before giving up.

But was that the books not ageing well …

or the reader? ;)

Ouch.

Ah, but was it an insult,

or was it a compliment, because I knew sibeen would think, “no, it was definitely the book”?

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

But was that the books not ageing well …

or the reader? ;)

Ouch.

Ah, but was it an insult,

or was it a compliment, because I knew sibeen would think, “no, it was definitely the book”?

I am like a fine wine :)

AwesomeO said:

sibeen said:

On a slight tangent, earlier this year I downloaded the Foundation series. It would have been well over thirty years since I first read it.

It has not aged well. I got through the first book, stumbled into the second, but only got around a third of a way through it before giving up.

I should revisit Lensmen, though probably a bit the same.

Lensman is still one of my very favourite SciFi series. I have a collection of “do not dispose of under any circumstances” books and it includes the entire Lensman series and the first three of Hitchhikers. Neither I Robot nor Foundation is in in that collection.

If you only get to read one Lensman, make it Galactic Patrol.

mollwollfumble said:

AwesomeO said:

sibeen said:

On a slight tangent, earlier this year I downloaded the Foundation series. It would have been well over thirty years since I first read it.

It has not aged well. I got through the first book, stumbled into the second, but only got around a third of a way through it before giving up.

I should revisit Lensmen, though probably a bit the same.

Lensman is still one of my very favourite SciFi series. I have a collection of “do not dispose of under any circumstances” books and it includes the entire Lensman series and the first three of Hitchhikers. Neither I Robot nor Foundation is in in that collection.

If you only get to read one Lensman, make it Galactic Patrol.

It would make a good movie if they haven’t already.

the conscious differentiated/ing I,(essence of self-awareness) that idea’s played with in Star Trek, with Data, but more broadly the entire theme and characters of the series.

it features in The Matrix too, though neither escaped ideology, the constraining conceptualizations.

transition said:

the conscious differentiated/ing I,(essence of self-awareness) that idea’s played with in Star Trek, with Data, but more broadly the entire theme and characters of the series.

it features in The Matrix too, though neither escaped ideology, the constraining conceptualizations.

Data shits me, the degree of programming and sophistication implied and he acts totally gormless at any social chit chat that even modern chat bots can approximate.

AwesomeO said:

transition said:

the conscious differentiated/ing I,(essence of self-awareness) that idea’s played with in Star Trek, with Data, but more broadly the entire theme and characters of the series.

it features in The Matrix too, though neither escaped ideology, the constraining conceptualizations.

Data shits me, the degree of programming and sophistication implied and he acts totally gormless at any social chit chat that even modern chat bots can approximate.

They programmed in autism.

AwesomeO said:

transition said:

the conscious differentiated/ing I,(essence of self-awareness) that idea’s played with in Star Trek, with Data, but more broadly the entire theme and characters of the series.

it features in The Matrix too, though neither escaped ideology, the constraining conceptualizations.

Data shits me, the degree of programming and sophistication implied and he acts totally gormless at any social chit chat that even modern chat bots can approximate.

modern chat bots make Data seem socially skilled, from my experience.

the joy of Data was there was no pretense to social competency, there was a reticence more like sensitive humans, but chat bots roll along, like idiots.

He shits me nearly as much as the holodeck. That hunk of junk has compromised the ship and everyone’s lives how many times? Any captain would pull the circuits, bar the door, post guards and refuse to serve on any ship that had one.

And fleet command on hearing how dangerous it was would put out a fleet signal never to use under any circumstances.

AwesomeO said:

He shits me nearly as much as the holodeck. That hunk of junk has compromised the ship and everyone’s lives how many times? Any captain would pull the circuits, bar the door, post guards and refuse to serve on any ship that had one.

And fleet command on hearing how dangerous it was would put out a fleet signal never to use under any circumstances.

But when you run out of your unlimited potential stories/plots because space and time travel, what would you use to make a story without the holodeck?

AwesomeO said:

Data shits me, the degree of programming and sophistication implied and he acts totally gormless at any social chit chat that even modern chat bots can approximate.

To be fair, i’ve met live people with less social finesse that a halfway-clever chatbot.

captain_spalding said:

AwesomeO said:

Data shits me, the degree of programming and sophistication implied and he acts totally gormless at any social chit chat that even modern chat bots can approximate.

To be fair, i’ve met live people with less social finesse that a halfway-clever chatbot.

‘..than a halfway-clever chatbot.’

>He shits me nearly as much as the holodeck.

the holodeck is an important part of the theme of the series, it represents an aspect (a trick) of human consciousness, like projections in or of imagination, the connections between past and present, possible connections, alternate realities running parallel, influences, the possibility space.

AwesomeO said:

He shits me nearly as much as the holodeck.

I agree about the holodeck. It’s only in the show as a cheap moneysaving gimmick, so they can shoot episodes on cheap as crap sets.

captain_spalding said:

AwesomeO said:

Data shits me, the degree of programming and sophistication implied and he acts totally gormless at any social chit chat that even modern chat bots can approximate.

To be fair, i’ve met live people with less social finesse that a halfway-clever chatbot.

There is such a thing as a halfway-clever chatbot? The last one I encountered, BobOs, was rapidly turned into a swear and insult machine by users.

mollwollfumble said:

captain_spalding said:

AwesomeO said:

Data shits me, the degree of programming and sophistication implied and he acts totally gormless at any social chit chat that even modern chat bots can approximate.

To be fair, i’ve met live people with less social finesse that a halfway-clever chatbot.

There is such a thing as a halfway-clever chatbot? The last one I encountered, BobOs, was rapidly turned into a swear and insult machine by users.

Same thing can happen to a lot of customer-service staff.