We’ve got about 15 minutes to get used to this one before it goes live. Try it on, walk down the hall and back, swing your arms around.

Rule 303 said:

We’ve got about 15 minutes to get used to this one before it goes live. Try it on, walk down the hall and back, swing your arms around.

I have longer than 15 minutes, but I’ll try your new fangled invention and recommend it to my friends

are there fossilologists and gemologists? same same but different?

great thread.

will post again.

Arts said:

Rule 303 said:

We’ve got about 15 minutes to get used to this one before it goes live. Try it on, walk down the hall and back, swing your arms around.

I have longer than 15 minutes, but I’ll try your new fangled invention and recommend it to my friends

I think you’ll like it, but the weather gets cooler.

Rule 303 said:

Arts said:

Rule 303 said:

We’ve got about 15 minutes to get used to this one before it goes live. Try it on, walk down the hall and back, swing your arms around.

I have longer than 15 minutes, but I’ll try your new fangled invention and recommend it to my friends

I think you’ll like it, but the weather gets cooler.

so much so, that I’m posting in it already

Uploaded Tex, Don & Charlie to the RuleMobile today. Looking forward to a whole new level of chill.

:-)

Arts said:

are there fossilologists and gemologists? same same but different?

Yes. Same, but very different.

fossilologists => paleontologists —-> study fossils.

gemologists ——> study gems

Volcanologists —-> Study volcanoes

Sedimentologists ——-> Study sediments and sedimentary rocks

Geologists ———————-> Study rocks. All types. Including all the above…

Michael V said:

Arts said:

are there fossilologists and gemologists? same same but different?

Yes. Same, but very different.

fossilologists => paleontologists —-> study fossils.

gemologists ——> study gems

Volcanologists —-> Study volcanoes

Sedimentologists ——-> Study sediments and sedimentary rocks

Geologists ———————-> Study rocks. All types. Including all the above…

thanks, again..

• thanks, again..

And a rocket scientist has nothing to do with rocks. Not even little ones…

sarahs mum said:

Lovely :)

furious said:

• thanks, again..

And a rocket scientist has nothing to do with rocks. Not even little ones…

The rocket scientists brought some rocks back from the moon.

party_pants said:

great thread.

will post again.

told ya so

party_pants said:

party_pants said:

great thread.

will post again.

told ya so

Well done!

Good morning Holidayers. Three degrees. Dark.

Morning punters and correctors, frosty at the redoubt.
Can you say ‘a pinch and a punch’ in these enlightened times or is that too violent?

Still too dark to see frost here. I suspect it is just settling now in the predawn. I’ll see it shortly when I head off to work.

‘Would you go vegan to save the planet? Researchers say it might be our best option’ – ABC News
‘Would you give up animal products to save the planet? No more meat, dairy, leather, cheese. Cheese?’ – ABC News

My question is: should there be the word ‘peasants’ after the word ‘you’ in the two questions above?

Would people like e.g. Barnaby Joyce or Malcolm Turnbull, and others who have that sense of natural entitlement, go along with the ideas suggested above? Or would it be another case of one mode of behaviour for the ‘right people’ and another for the great unwashed, with ‘exclusivised’ animal products something in which only the select few can indulge?

‘Felicity Brown is just one of the Australian children with a rare muscle-wasting disease who from today will have cheap access to a drug that has shown miraculous results.’ – ABC News

My whinge here is the phrase ‘…just one of the Australian children…’. delete the word ‘just’. Does it detract from the statement? No.

It’s a ridiculous expression. Felicity is one of those children, not ‘just’ one of them. She cannot be anything other than ‘one’ of them. She can’t be two or three of them – the word ‘just’ is an unnecessary qualifier.

I suppose that ‘journalism’ courses these days still rely on the outdated notion that, before they sign up for the course, their students have been taught English in high school.

captain_spalding said:

‘Felicity Brown is just one of the Australian children with a rare muscle-wasting disease who from today will have cheap access to a drug that has shown miraculous results.’ – ABC News

My whinge here is the phrase ‘…just one of the Australian children…’. delete the word ‘just’. Does it detract from the statement? No.

It’s a ridiculous expression. Felicity is one of those children, not ‘just’ one of them. She cannot be anything other than ‘one’ of them. She can’t be two or three of them – the word ‘just’ is an unnecessary qualifier.

I suppose that ‘journalism’ courses these days still rely on the outdated notion that, before they sign up for the course, their students have been taught English in high school.

It is unnecessary.

Is it being used as a subtle put down or is it something else?

Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

‘Felicity Brown is just one of the Australian children with a rare muscle-wasting disease who from today will have cheap access to a drug that has shown miraculous results.’ – ABC News

My whinge here is the phrase ‘…just one of the Australian children…’. delete the word ‘just’. Does it detract from the statement? No.

It’s a ridiculous expression. Felicity is one of those children, not ‘just’ one of them. She cannot be anything other than ‘one’ of them. She can’t be two or three of them – the word ‘just’ is an unnecessary qualifier.

I suppose that ‘journalism’ courses these days still rely on the outdated notion that, before they sign up for the course, their students have been taught English in high school.

It is unnecessary.

Is it being used as a subtle put down or is it something else?

Lazy sub-editing by someone who doesn’t examine their own work.

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

‘Felicity Brown is just one of the Australian children with a rare muscle-wasting disease who from today will have cheap access to a drug that has shown miraculous results.’ – ABC News

My whinge here is the phrase ‘…just one of the Australian children…’. delete the word ‘just’. Does it detract from the statement? No.

It’s a ridiculous expression. Felicity is one of those children, not ‘just’ one of them. She cannot be anything other than ‘one’ of them. She can’t be two or three of them – the word ‘just’ is an unnecessary qualifier.

I suppose that ‘journalism’ courses these days still rely on the outdated notion that, before they sign up for the course, their students have been taught English in high school.

It is unnecessary.

Is it being used as a subtle put down or is it something else?

Lazy sub-editing by someone who doesn’t examine their own work.

And a reflection of poor skills among ‘reporters’.

captain_spalding said:

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

It is unnecessary.

Is it being used as a subtle put down or is it something else?

Lazy sub-editing by someone who doesn’t examine their own work.

And a reflection of poor skills among ‘reporters’.

Perhaps the ABC should start a writers skills excellence campaign within the ABC?

Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

captain_spalding said:

Lazy sub-editing by someone who doesn’t examine their own work.

And a reflection of poor skills among ‘reporters’.

Perhaps the ABC should start a writers skills excellence campaign within the ABC?

Some people write properly all the time, others need some help to come up to standard and they should be taught not to fear that standard, it can be like touch typing.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

And a reflection of poor skills among ‘reporters’.

Perhaps the ABC should start a writers skills excellence campaign within the ABC?

Some people write properly all the time, others need some help to come up to standard and they should be taught not to fear that standard, it can be like touch typing.

It reminds me of getting rid of ums in conversations.

buffy said:

Still too dark to see frost here. I suspect it is just settling now in the predawn. I’ll see it shortly when I head off to work.

It got down to -2 at the redoubt this morning, warmed up a bit since then to zero.
Today will be another concreting day.

People Who Wear Glasses Really Are More Likely to Be Smart, Says Huge Study

It’s one of the oldest, weather-worn clichés: that people who wear glasses are somehow smarter than those who don’t. It’s ridiculous, unfounded, and – it turns out – actually true.

The largest study to date investigating the genetic underpinnings of intelligence suggests there is in fact a link between wearing glasses (or contact lenses) and cognitive function, with intelligent people almost 30 percent more likely to be glasses wearers.

more…

Staring Into Someone’s Eyes For 10 Minutes Induces an Altered State of Consciousness

In 2015, a psychologist in Italy figured out how to induce a drug-free altered state of consciousness by asking 20 volunteers to sit and stare into each other’s eyes for 10 minutes straight.

Not only did the deceptively simple task bring on strange ‘out of body’ experiences for the volunteers, it also caused them to see hallucinations of monsters, their relatives, and themselves in their partner’s face.

more…

Morning, double digits today at -0.1…

clear and sunny though.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Staring Into Someone’s Eyes For 10 Minutes Induces an Altered State of Consciousness

In 2015, a psychologist in Italy figured out how to induce a drug-free altered state of consciousness by asking 20 volunteers to sit and stare into each other’s eyes for 10 minutes straight.

Not only did the deceptively simple task bring on strange ‘out of body’ experiences for the volunteers, it also caused them to see hallucinations of monsters, their relatives, and themselves in their partner’s face.

more…

Even faster with Op-art.

Slower with sensory deprivation, solitary confinement.

sarahs mum said:

Nice fossil.

OK, I’ve decided to admit my abysmal ignorance. Is your Sarah the same as my Sarah? Sarah Starling (Sarah Maria Hoogwater) Fresnel Chick.

Or have I got the wrong Sarah?

captain_spalding said:

‘Felicity Brown is just one of the Australian children with a rare muscle-wasting disease who from today will have cheap access to a drug that has shown miraculous results.’ – ABC News

My whinge here is the phrase ‘…just one of the Australian children…’. delete the word ‘just’. Does it detract from the statement? No.

It’s a ridiculous expression. Felicity is one of those children, not ‘just’ one of them. She cannot be anything other than ‘one’ of them. She can’t be two or three of them – the word ‘just’ is an unnecessary qualifier.

I suppose that ‘journalism’ courses these days still rely on the outdated notion that, before they sign up for the course, their students have been taught English in high school.

You’re especially contrarian this morning. I think the ‘just’ serves to emphasise that it is not just one child who benefits but many meaning the change is all the more welcome.

Tau.Neutrino said:

People Who Wear Glasses Really Are More Likely to Be Smart, Says Huge Study

It’s one of the oldest, weather-worn clichés: that people who wear glasses are somehow smarter than those who don’t. It’s ridiculous, unfounded, and – it turns out – actually true.

The largest study to date investigating the genetic underpinnings of intelligence suggests there is in fact a link between wearing glasses (or contact lenses) and cognitive function, with intelligent people almost 30 percent more likely to be glasses wearers.

more…

Oh, I like it.

It brings back the old nature vs nurture debate.

Wait, I have an idea. Did they by any chance separate short sighted in their data? Short sighted people sit closer to the front of the class and were more likely too read books and less likely to play football.

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning punters and correctors, frosty at the redoubt.
Can you say ‘a pinch and a punch’ in these enlightened times or is that too violent?

Enlightened?

I only heard the phrase for the first time, like, ten to fifteen years ago.

Good morning everyone.

13.6°C, 59% RH, and clear with light to moderate breezes. It’s a beautiful day out there. We’ll go into Gympie soon, to collect son and granddaughter from the train, and do a bit of shopping. . Granddaughter gets to take Mrs V’s Toyota Echo home with her, as the trade-in value was just $200.

‘nings!

TFIF.

Michael V said:

…Mrs V’s Toyota Echo…the trade-in value was just $200.

Stuth. Bloody good little cars. And drivable, obviouly… What’s wrong with it?

mollwollfumble said:

sarahs mum said:

Nice fossil.

OK, I’ve decided to admit my abysmal ignorance. Is your Sarah the same as my Sarah? Sarah Starling (Sarah Maria Hoogwater) Fresnel Chick.

Or have I got the wrong Sarah?

Molly, they are different Sarahs.

waves from hospital bed

Had knee surgery on Tuesday, finally got the wifi working on my laptop last night. Going home tomorrow – but will be off work for about 5 weeks. Please keep me entertained.

sibeen said:

Molly, they are different Sarahs.

Ta.

Rule 303 said:

‘nings!

TFIF.

Michael V said:

…Mrs V’s Toyota Echo…the trade-in value was just $200.

Stuth. Bloody good little cars. And drivable, obviouly… What’s wrong with it?

Nothing important. Paint clear coat falling off. Doesn’t use oil. Doesn’t drip oil. No rust. Goes and stops, and is extremely economical. Has been a great car for us.

yawn
second coffee in progress

Brindabellas said:

waves from hospital bed

Had knee surgery on Tuesday, finally got the wifi working on my laptop last night. Going home tomorrow – but will be off work for about 5 weeks. Please keep me entertained.

Oh, bugger. I hope it’s not too uncomfortable. What happened?

Michael V said:

Rule 303 said:

‘nings!

TFIF.

Michael V said:

…Mrs V’s Toyota Echo…the trade-in value was just $200.

Stuth. Bloody good little cars. And drivable, obviouly… What’s wrong with it?

Nothing important. Paint clear coat falling off. Doesn’t use oil. Doesn’t drip oil. No rust. Goes and stops, and is extremely economical. Has been a great car for us.

Yup, cars are cheap as chips, I keep telling Bubblecar and Sarah that. As a percentage of income a new car has never been more affordable which is reflected in the second hand car market. And a car these days is so well screwed together that a 10 year old car with ordinary maintenance has another 10’years in it.

My lancer has always been garaged, is immaculate, well maintained, only long trips, a service and oil and oil filter every year but has usually done less than 15 k and it’s only insured for third party, not enough value in it to insure it for market value which is probably under 3k.

Michael V said:

Brindabellas said:

waves from hospital bed

Had knee surgery on Tuesday, finally got the wifi working on my laptop last night. Going home tomorrow – but will be off work for about 5 weeks. Please keep me entertained.

Oh, bugger. I hope it’s not too uncomfortable. What happened?

Not too uncomfortable – yet… drugs doing their good thing. I had a loose bit of bone removed 10 years ago, since then it has worn away and had a High Tibial Osteotomy done – includes a bone graph. Should last me 10 years until a full knee replacement.

Brindabellas said:

waves from hospital bed

Had knee surgery on Tuesday, finally got the wifi working on my laptop last night. Going home tomorrow – but will be off work for about 5 weeks. Please keep me entertained.

:) Good to see you. Hope you heal well.

Brindabellas said:

waves from hospital bed

Had knee surgery on Tuesday, finally got the wifi working on my laptop last night. Going home tomorrow – but will be off work for about 5 weeks. Please keep me entertained.

Bloody hell, someone else who want a new laptop,

:)

Rule 303 said:

‘nings!

TFIF.

+ nearly infinite

sibeen said:

Brindabellas said:

waves from hospital bed

Had knee surgery on Tuesday, finally got the wifi working on my laptop last night. Going home tomorrow – but will be off work for about 5 weeks. Please keep me entertained.

Bloody hell, someone else who want a new laptop,

:)

Didn’t she say she had one?

Brindabellas said:

waves from hospital bed

Had knee surgery on Tuesday, finally got the wifi working on my laptop last night. Going home tomorrow – but will be off work for about 5 weeks. Please keep me entertained.

Good news, except coming here to be entertained :P Boris’s jokes are few and sibeen keeps yelling at him.

kii said:

Brindabellas said:

waves from hospital bed

Had knee surgery on Tuesday, finally got the wifi working on my laptop last night. Going home tomorrow – but will be off work for about 5 weeks. Please keep me entertained.

Good news, except coming here to be entertained :P Boris’s good jokes are few and sibeen keeps yelling at him.

fixed.

sibeen said:

Brindabellas said:

waves from hospital bed

Had knee surgery on Tuesday, finally got the wifi working on my laptop last night. Going home tomorrow – but will be off work for about 5 weeks. Please keep me entertained.

Bloody hell, someone else who want a new laptop,

:)

it was the hospital wifi – could get it on my phone, but not on the laptop – something to do with security settings – then it suddenly started to work.

Also a warning – I am on heavy duty drugs – so may not always make sense.

sibeen said:

Brindabellas said:

waves from hospital bed

Had knee surgery on Tuesday, finally got the wifi working on my laptop last night. Going home tomorrow – but will be off work for about 5 weeks. Please keep me entertained.

Bloody hell, someone else who want a new laptop,

:)

All my dollars belong to kitchen renovations and medical cannabis.

Brindabellas said:

sibeen said:

Brindabellas said:

waves from hospital bed

Had knee surgery on Tuesday, finally got the wifi working on my laptop last night. Going home tomorrow – but will be off work for about 5 weeks. Please keep me entertained.

Bloody hell, someone else who want a new laptop,

:)

it was the hospital wifi – could get it on my phone, but not on the laptop – something to do with security settings – then it suddenly started to work.

Also a warning – I am on heavy duty drugs – so may not always make sense.

Looxery.

I have a bastard cold and may not make sense. Am also frigging tired.

Perhaps I have a watered down version of the flu (I’ve had a flu jab)

Brindabellas said:

That’s me everyday since November 2016.

Brindabellas said:

Also a warning – I am on heavy duty drugs – so may not always make sense.

That works well here.

Brindabellas said:

sibeen said:

Brindabellas said:

waves from hospital bed

Had knee surgery on Tuesday, finally got the wifi working on my laptop last night. Going home tomorrow – but will be off work for about 5 weeks. Please keep me entertained.

Bloody hell, someone else who want a new laptop,

:)

Also a warning – I am on heavy duty drugs – so may not always make sense.

you’ll fit right in here then

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

‘Felicity Brown is just one of the Australian children with a rare muscle-wasting disease who from today will have cheap access to a drug that has shown miraculous results.’ – ABC News

My whinge here is the phrase ‘…just one of the Australian children…’. delete the word ‘just’. Does it detract from the statement? No.

It’s a ridiculous expression. Felicity is one of those children, not ‘just’ one of them. She cannot be anything other than ‘one’ of them. She can’t be two or three of them – the word ‘just’ is an unnecessary qualifier.

I suppose that ‘journalism’ courses these days still rely on the outdated notion that, before they sign up for the course, their students have been taught English in high school.

You’re especially contrarian this morning. I think the ‘just’ serves to emphasise that it is not just one child who benefits but many meaning the change is all the more welcome.

Yeas, i can dig that.

It annoys me mostly because i see it as lazy use of the language from someone in a job in which the use of language is supposed to be important.

Accepted practice, yes. Lazy practice, also yes.

kii said:

Brindabellas said:

That’s me everyday since November 2016.

As shown in a perfect mis-quote.

I have to go organise the evening meal situation. Just remembered I sprayed the top of the stove earlier today.

Divine Angel said:

I have a bastard cold and may not make sense. Am also frigging tired.

Perhaps I have a watered down version of the flu (I’ve had a flu jab)

Probably picked up a bit of autism from the vaccination.

mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

People Who Wear Glasses Really Are More Likely to Be Smart, Says Huge Study

It’s one of the oldest, weather-worn clichés: that people who wear glasses are somehow smarter than those who don’t. It’s ridiculous, unfounded, and – it turns out – actually true.

The largest study to date investigating the genetic underpinnings of intelligence suggests there is in fact a link between wearing glasses (or contact lenses) and cognitive function, with intelligent people almost 30 percent more likely to be glasses wearers.

more…

Oh, I like it.

It brings back the old nature vs nurture debate.

Wait, I have an idea. Did they by any chance separate short sighted in their data? Short sighted people sit closer to the front of the class and were more likely too read books and less likely to play football.

Adjusts glasses.

Obviously true of course.

But apart from that, did they adjust for the fact that “intelligent” people are more likely to spend all day sitting in front of a computer screen, or in ancient times all day at a desk reading books and papers, and hence more likely to need glasses?

Divine Angel said:

I have a bastard cold and may not make sense. Am also frigging tired.

Perhaps I have a watered down version of the flu (I’ve had a flu jab)

All of the infection control people around here emphasise that the vaccine contains only dead viruses.

They tell us that they cannot reproduce any more than any other dead organism can, and so you can’t get any form of ‘flu from the vaccination.

(The emphases reflect the way they tell it.)

You may still get a cold, which is caused by various strains of another virus, or maybe a strain of ‘flu that’s new, or which the vaccine doesn’t cover, but you can’t get ‘flu from the vaccine.

Michael V said:

Rule 303 said:

‘nings!

TFIF.

Michael V said:

…Mrs V’s Toyota Echo…the trade-in value was just $200.

Stuth. Bloody good little cars. And drivable, obviouly… What’s wrong with it?

Nothing important. Paint clear coat falling off. Doesn’t use oil. Doesn’t drip oil. No rust. Goes and stops, and is extremely economical. Has been a great car for us.

Ahhh. Sounds like the clear coat is what did it…

We have a similar problem with a Holden Cruze that MrsRule bought a couple of years ago. Dealer didn’t tell us it had been hail damaged and repaired. Took about 12 months for most of the clear coat to fall off the horizontal surfaces. Paid $17,000 for it, probably now worth $1,700.

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

I have a bastard cold and may not make sense. Am also frigging tired.

Perhaps I have a watered down version of the flu (I’ve had a flu jab)

All of the infection control people around here emphasise that the vaccine contains only dead viruses.

They tell us that they cannot reproduce any more than any other dead organism can, and so you can’t get any form of ‘flu from the vaccination.

(The emphases reflect the way they tell it.)

You may still get a cold, which is caused by various strains of another virus, or maybe a strain of ‘flu that’s new, or which the vaccine doesn’t cover, but you can’t get ‘flu from the vaccine.

There are multiple other viruses that can cause flu like symptoms – RSV, parainfluenza et al, none of these are covered with vaccination.

Brindabellas said:

Also a warning – I am on heavy duty drugs – so may not always make sense.

I think most of us have presumed that to be the case for some years now…

;-)

Rule 303 said:

We have a similar problem with a Holden Cruze that MrsRule bought a couple of years ago. Dealer didn’t tell us it had been hail damaged and repaired. Took about 12 months for most of the clear coat to fall off the horizontal surfaces. Paid $17,000 for it, probably now worth $1,700.

There was a chap in the Navy who had a little car that had severe paint problems. As it was a third-hand ownership, he realised that the car was worth about 10 cents and a bottle top, so he repainted it, and when he got bored, he’d paint it again.

One time he painted it storm grey, with numbers on it like a warship. He’d paint it in blue-grey camouflage, polka-dots, like a WW2 American fighter, with enormous flames (of course), tiger stripes…

He was quite good at it, and people said he should do it as a job when he got out.

Brindabellas said:

Michael V said:

Brindabellas said:

waves from hospital bed

Had knee surgery on Tuesday, finally got the wifi working on my laptop last night. Going home tomorrow – but will be off work for about 5 weeks. Please keep me entertained.

Oh, bugger. I hope it’s not too uncomfortable. What happened?

Not too uncomfortable – yet… drugs doing their good thing. I had a loose bit of bone removed 10 years ago, since then it has worn away and had a High Tibial Osteotomy done – includes a bone graph. Should last me 10 years until a full knee replacement.

shudder

Behave as the doctor ordered, and allow it to heal properly, please. Oh, and take drugs. Lots of drugs…

;)

Brindabellas said:

Not too uncomfortable – yet… drugs doing their good thing. I had a loose bit of bone removed 10 years ago, since then it has worn away and had a High Tibial Osteotomy done – includes a bone graph. Should last me 10 years until a full knee replacement.

>>>Bone graph…, the plot thickens.

yeah, I know you’ll blame the drugs.

;-)

JudgeMental said:

Sounds like a perfect addition to the forum.

I vote yes.

Okay, I’m leaving now.

Rock a bye Rabbit
In the hot oven
Into my mouth
For dinner, I’m shovin’

God bless Bugs Bunny cartoons.

kii said:

Amen

poikilotherm said:

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

I have a bastard cold and may not make sense. Am also frigging tired.

Perhaps I have a watered down version of the flu (I’ve had a flu jab)

All of the infection control people around here emphasise that the vaccine contains only dead viruses.

They tell us that they cannot reproduce any more than any other dead organism can, and so you can’t get any form of ‘flu from the vaccination.

(The emphases reflect the way they tell it.)

You may still get a cold, which is caused by various strains of another virus, or maybe a strain of ‘flu that’s new, or which the vaccine doesn’t cover, but you can’t get ‘flu from the vaccine.

There are multiple other viruses that can cause flu like symptoms – RSV, parainfluenza et al, none of these are covered with vaccination.

Even if I did think I got the flu from the jab, the jab was a month ago. Pretty sure it’s not a delayed reaction… oh wait, vaccine injury. Explains everything.

captain_spalding said:

Rule 303 said:

We have a similar problem with a Holden Cruze that MrsRule bought a couple of years ago. Dealer didn’t tell us it had been hail damaged and repaired. Took about 12 months for most of the clear coat to fall off the horizontal surfaces. Paid $17,000 for it, probably now worth $1,700.

There was a chap in the Navy who had a little car that had severe paint problems. As it was a third-hand ownership, he realised that the car was worth about 10 cents and a bottle top, so he repainted it, and when he got bored, he’d paint it again.

One time he painted it storm grey, with numbers on it like a warship. He’d paint it in blue-grey camouflage, polka-dots, like a WW2 American fighter, with enormous flames (of course), tiger stripes…

He was quite good at it, and people said he should do it as a job when he got out.

I dont know why more people dont have a shot at repainting their own car, especially if the paints stuffed anyway
We did a landcruiser in 2 pack, did each panel in turn down to the base and reprimered over a few weeks, then the final primer and top coat were done in th back yard (cruiser was 2” too tall to go into the garage even with the tyres let down without ‘remodelling’ it)
Waited for a still day, hung tarps around it from the verandah, washing line and even a couple of brooms taped together as supports, then painted it all with a $40 ebay paint sprayer….

Still looks great 3 years on, nice and shiny, no runs or orange peel

transition said:

…/cut/..

try that again, server showed uploaded file as broken initially, then fixed’t

had breakfast-proper at mummy’s

cup of tea now, then to end of month accounts(rolls eyes)

Flu needle time, I even made myself a sticker showing how brave I am

Nearly had a car accident, a big one.

Can you imagine that I was looking straight at the front of a bright blue big truck, b double sized truck, and didn’t see it?

Oh noes I’m now Autism

Arts is probably all over this…

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/body-found-inside-greenwich-hoarder-s-home-had-a-number-of-injuries-20180601-p4ziu2.html

> I dont know why more people dont have a shot at repainting their own car, especially if the paints stuffed anyway.

I’ve twice had a shot. First time the paint peeled off, which was actually good because it looked awful. Second time I couldn’t get a colour match, looked worse than when I started.

If you have your personal paint booth, are prepared to strip out all the interior before painting, have powder coating technology with an oven big enough to take the whole car, enough paint for three separate coats, and gear to electrostatically charge the car and paint, as well as polishing and detailing experience, then go ahead and paint your own car. Othewise, forget it.

Dog owners shocked to find their tiny dachshund had blown up to three times its size

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-01/dachshund-with-subcuteanous-emphysema-balloons/9823836

mollwollfumble said:

> I dont know why more people dont have a shot at repainting their own car, especially if the paints stuffed anyway.

I’ve twice had a shot. First time the paint peeled off, which was actually good because it looked awful. Second time I couldn’t get a colour match, looked worse than when I started.

If you have your personal paint booth, are prepared to strip out all the interior before painting, have powder coating technology with an oven big enough to take the whole car, enough paint for three separate coats, and gear to electrostatically charge the car and paint, as well as polishing and detailing experience, then go ahead and paint your own car. Othewise, forget it.

I had a boyfriend that painted his own car. He worked at Coates – so he got free orange paint, And the car was a Leyland P76. Try not to judge…..

mollwollfumble said:

> I dont know why more people dont have a shot at repainting their own car, especially if the paints stuffed anyway.

I’ve twice had a shot. First time the paint peeled off, which was actually good because it looked awful. Second time I couldn’t get a colour match, looked worse than when I started.

If you have your personal paint booth, are prepared to strip out all the interior before painting, have powder coating technology with an oven big enough to take the whole car, enough paint for three separate coats, and gear to electrostatically charge the car and paint, as well as polishing and detailing experience, then go ahead and paint your own car. Othewise, forget it.

Or you could do an art car.

Bubblecar said:

Dog owners shocked to find their tiny dachshund had blown up to three times its size

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-01/dachshund-with-subcuteanous-emphysema-balloons/9823836

poor Trevor

waves at Bubbles from Hospital bed

Brindabellas said:

Bubblecar said:

Dog owners shocked to find their tiny dachshund had blown up to three times its size

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-01/dachshund-with-subcuteanous-emphysema-balloons/9823836

poor Trevor

waves at Bubbles from Hospital bed

Wotchoo doing in hospital?

Bubblecar said:

Brindabellas said:

Bubblecar said:

Dog owners shocked to find their tiny dachshund had blown up to three times its size

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-01/dachshund-with-subcuteanous-emphysema-balloons/9823836

poor Trevor

waves at Bubbles from Hospital bed

Wotchoo doing in hospital?

Oh and hello, too :)

Hello Lunchtimers. I et cocopops for lunch. Again. I think there is probably one more lunch in the box.

moll…there are fossils at Inverloch. Apparently you can go on organized trips. I haven’t followed the links.

http://www.sgcs.org.au/dinosaurs.php

I had a tin of French Onion Soup with buttered rye to dunk in.

Heard this one on the news this morning and wondered what sort of car. The news just said “luxury car”. And now it’s impounded for a month.

https://www.vicpolicenews.com.au/news/like-father-like-son

I hope it wasn’t Mum’s car they took out driving.

Germaine’s being stupid again:

https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqOQgKIjNDQklTSURvSmMzUnZjbmt0TXpZd1NoTUtFUWlFdHJMQmpJQU1FYms4NG5FRW9RdlhLQUFQAQ?hl=en-AU&gl=AU&ceid=AU%3Aen

Bubblecar said:

Germaine’s being stupid again:

https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqOQgKIjNDQklTSURvSmMzUnZjbmt0TXpZd1NoTUtFUWlFdHJMQmpJQU1FYms4NG5FRW9RdlhLQUFQAQ?hl=en-AU&gl=AU&ceid=AU%3Aen

Yet there was a distinct lack of outrage. Must be the icon shields set to full.

That link is all just comments, I think. Where is the original of what she said? I like to read the original. Often it isn’t what the comments say.

AwesomeO said:

Bubblecar said:

Germaine’s being stupid again:

https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqOQgKIjNDQklTSURvSmMzUnZjbmt0TXpZd1NoTUtFUWlFdHJMQmpJQU1FYms4NG5FRW9RdlhLQUFQAQ?hl=en-AU&gl=AU&ceid=AU%3Aen

Yet there was a distinct lack of outrage. Must be the icon shields set to full.

Huh? There’s wall-to-wall outrage.

buffy said:

That link is all just comments, I think. Where is the original of what she said? I like to read the original. Often it isn’t what the comments say.

Was in the Gruin yesterday or the day before.

buffy said:

That link is all just comments, I think. Where is the original of what she said? I like to read the original. Often it isn’t what the comments say.

Germaine Greer: ‘Most rape is just bad sex’

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/germaine-greer-most-rape-is-just-bad-sex

I’ve said before that the ALP can usually be relied on to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

It looks like the very tool (and i use that word deliberately) which will enable them to do that may have arrived:

‘Mark Latham is dropping hints about the political comeback he promised he wouldn’t make’ – ABC News

Bubblecar said:

AwesomeO said:

Bubblecar said:

Germaine’s being stupid again:

https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqOQgKIjNDQklTSURvSmMzUnZjbmt0TXpZd1NoTUtFUWlFdHJMQmpJQU1FYms4NG5FRW9RdlhLQUFQAQ?hl=en-AU&gl=AU&ceid=AU%3Aen

Yet there was a distinct lack of outrage. Must be the icon shields set to full.

Huh? There’s wall-to-wall outrage.

Nope still muted. Didn’t get a mention here for example.

captain_spalding said:

I’ve said before that the ALP can usually be relied on to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

It looks like the very tool (and i use that word deliberately) which will enable them to do that may have arrived:

‘Mark Latham is dropping hints about the political comeback he promised he wouldn’t make’ – ABC News

Hasn’t he been kicked out of the party?

Couldn’t imagine him returning as a Labor man.

Bubblecar said:

AwesomeO said:

Bubblecar said:

Germaine’s being stupid again:

https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqOQgKIjNDQklTSURvSmMzUnZjbmt0TXpZd1NoTUtFUWlFdHJMQmpJQU1FYms4NG5FRW9RdlhLQUFQAQ?hl=en-AU&gl=AU&ceid=AU%3Aen

Yet there was a distinct lack of outrage. Must be the icon shields set to full.

Huh? There’s wall-to-wall outrage.

Just ignore him. It’s best that way.

AwesomeO said:

Bubblecar said:

AwesomeO said:

Yet there was a distinct lack of outrage. Must be the icon shields set to full.

Huh? There’s wall-to-wall outrage.

Nope still muted. Didn’t get a mention here for example.

I just mentioned it a moment ago. Only saw the story today.

It was at a festival, and she has a new book about to be published. Read the quotes of what she said.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44315214

Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

I’ve said before that the ALP can usually be relied on to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

It looks like the very tool (and i use that word deliberately) which will enable them to do that may have arrived:

‘Mark Latham is dropping hints about the political comeback he promised he wouldn’t make’ – ABC News

Hasn’t he been kicked out of the party?

Couldn’t imagine him returning as a Labor man.

Guilt by association. The L/NP will paint him as representative of Labor, no matter what.

As well, Mark will have full agenda of revenge to work through if he makes it back to Parliament, under whatever banner. We can count on him to do his best to sabotage his erstwhile colleagues.

buffy said:

It was at a festival, and she has a new book about to be published. Read the quotes of what she said.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44315214

Ah, that explains it. Free publicity.

buffy said:

It was at a festival, and she has a new book about to be published. Read the quotes of what she said.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44315214

Seems nonsensical to suggest that more women would be believed by juries if the penalties for rape were lower. There’s no logical connection.

More likely the crime – and the complaint – would simply be trivialised, further undermining the complainant.

captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

I’ve said before that the ALP can usually be relied on to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

It looks like the very tool (and i use that word deliberately) which will enable them to do that may have arrived:

‘Mark Latham is dropping hints about the political comeback he promised he wouldn’t make’ – ABC News

Hasn’t he been kicked out of the party?

Couldn’t imagine him returning as a Labor man.

Guilt by association. The L/NP will paint him as representative of Labor, no matter what.

As well, Mark will have full agenda of revenge to work through if he makes it back to Parliament, under whatever banner. We can count on him to do his best to sabotage his erstwhile colleagues.

Only crazy people would vote for him.

Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Hasn’t he been kicked out of the party?

Couldn’t imagine him returning as a Labor man.

Guilt by association. The L/NP will paint him as representative of Labor, no matter what.

As well, Mark will have full agenda of revenge to work through if he makes it back to Parliament, under whatever banner. We can count on him to do his best to sabotage his erstwhile colleagues.

Only crazy people would vote for him.

Like attracts like.

Towards the end of her life my sister had massive delusions about Germaine Greer. She believed that Greer had given her a job, in England, and she was heading over there asap to start working as her assistant. I recall her telling me about it once, right before she told me that we all had to change our family name because…yadda yadda. She wrote copious lists and notes about it. I have them in her journals.

When I see headlines about Greer I tend to skip over them.

It’s complicated.

Here…chew on this.

I ignore both Germaine Greer and Mark Latham because neither of them support or reinforce my beliefs.

Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Hasn’t he been kicked out of the party?

Couldn’t imagine him returning as a Labor man.

Guilt by association. The L/NP will paint him as representative of Labor, no matter what.

As well, Mark will have full agenda of revenge to work through if he makes it back to Parliament, under whatever banner. We can count on him to do his best to sabotage his erstwhile colleagues.

Only crazy people would vote for him.

I think most people here voted for him.

captain_spalding said:

I’ve said before that the ALP can usually be relied on to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

It looks like the very tool (and i use that word deliberately) which will enable them to do that may have arrived:

‘Mark Latham is dropping hints about the political comeback he promised he wouldn’t make’ – ABC News

Oh happy days

kii said:

Towards the end of her life my sister had massive delusions about Germaine Greer. She believed that Greer had given her a job, in England, and she was heading over there asap to start working as her assistant. I recall her telling me about it once, right before she told me that we all had to change our family name because…yadda yadda. She wrote copious lists and notes about it. I have them in her journals.

When I see headlines about Greer I tend to skip over them.

It’s complicated.

Germaine Greer

Germaine Greer is just a nasty cow, all other considerations aside

Retail story. Not mine as I jumped ship, but I have had similar conversations.

=================
Customer asks me for the new Nora Roberts book in paperback, I look it up and apologize and explain that it takes longer for them to come out and it’s just currently in hardback.

Customer: That’s stupid! What about e-book, is it in hardcover or paperback in ebook?
Me: (confused) it’s…available in ebook, yes.
Customer: No! I want to know if it’s in paperback in ebook.
Me: Ebook is neither hardcover nor paperback, it’s a digital copy of the book.
Customer: I know that! I have a nook! God, never mind! You don’t understand what I’m asking!
=============================

Germaine can get away with applause after telling an ABC audience that Gillard had a fat arse. ya reckon anyone of not the correct politcal persuasion could have got away with that?

captain_spalding said:

I’ve said before that the ALP can usually be relied on to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

It looks like the very tool (and i use that word deliberately) which will enable them to do that may have arrived:

‘Mark Latham is dropping hints about the political comeback he promised he wouldn’t make’ – ABC News

Latham quit the ALP and they won’t have him back. If he does run it will be for a conservative minor party like PHON or the Shitters and Flushers.

kii said:

Retail story. Not mine as I jumped ship, but I have had similar conversations.

=================
Customer asks me for the new Nora Roberts book in paperback, I look it up and apologize and explain that it takes longer for them to come out and it’s just currently in hardback.

Customer: That’s stupid! What about e-book, is it in hardcover or paperback in ebook?
Me: (confused) it’s…available in ebook, yes.
Customer: No! I want to know if it’s in paperback in ebook.
Me: Ebook is neither hardcover nor paperback, it’s a digital copy of the book.
Customer: I know that! I have a nook! God, never mind! You don’t understand what I’m asking!
=============================

I would be more hard cover than soft cover as the device is solidish

AwesomeO said:

Germaine can get away with applause after telling an ABC audience that Gillard had a fat arse. ya reckon anyone of not the correct politcal persuasion could have got away with that?

You’re misreading the situation. Germaine Greer hasn’t had much credibility on the left for a long time.

I don’t know if she even regards herself as “left”.

kii said:

Towards the end of her life my sister had massive delusions about Germaine Greer. She believed that Greer had given her a job, in England, and she was heading over there asap to start working as her assistant. I recall her telling me about it once, right before she told me that we all had to change our family name because…yadda yadda. She wrote copious lists and notes about it. I have them in her journals.

When I see headlines about Greer I tend to skip over them.

It’s complicated.

My cousin works with people who have mental problems. One of his clients believes she’s married to Whitney Houston, but Whitney is her husband and transgender. Whitney is not dead.

kii said:

Retail story. Not mine as I jumped ship, but I have had similar conversations.

=================
Customer asks me for the new Nora Roberts book in paperback, I look it up and apologize and explain that it takes longer for them to come out and it’s just currently in hardback.

Customer: That’s stupid! What about e-book, is it in hardcover or paperback in ebook?
Me: (confused) it’s…available in ebook, yes.
Customer: No! I want to know if it’s in paperback in ebook.
Me: Ebook is neither hardcover nor paperback, it’s a digital copy of the book.
Customer: I know that! I have a nook! God, never mind! You don’t understand what I’m asking!
=============================

Maybe they expect the e-book to be more expensive until the real book is available in paperback.

Anyway here’s a more serious outrage story:

Dudley man in flat cap told to leave Tesco over hat rule

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-44317992

Bubblecar said:

Germaine’s being stupid again:

https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqOQgKIjNDQklTSURvSmMzUnZjbmt0TXpZd1NoTUtFUWlFdHJMQmpJQU1FYms4NG5FRW9RdlhLQUFQAQ?hl=en-AU&gl=AU&ceid=AU%3Aen

Hmmm.

Maybe she’s hoping for some sort of advisory role with the Trump Government.

Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Hasn’t he been kicked out of the party?

Couldn’t imagine him returning as a Labor man.

Guilt by association. The L/NP will paint him as representative of Labor, no matter what.

As well, Mark will have full agenda of revenge to work through if he makes it back to Parliament, under whatever banner. We can count on him to do his best to sabotage his erstwhile colleagues.

Only crazy people would vote for him.

I’d quite like a Taiwanese senate… Latham may be the path there.

AwesomeO said:

Bubblecar said:

AwesomeO said:

Yet there was a distinct lack of outrage. Must be the icon shields set to full.

Huh? There’s wall-to-wall outrage.

Nope still muted. Didn’t get a mention here for example.

Lots of things that are outrage-worthy don’t get a mention here, but apparently this did get a mention here, since we appear to be discussing it.

Why forcing cyclists to wear helmets will not save lives

A video over on the Gran’s UK site.

Some may want to view it :)

sibeen said:

Why forcing cyclists to wear helmets will not save lives

A video over on the Gran’s UK site.

Some may want to view it :)

What’s a little brain damage anyway

sibeen said:

Why forcing cyclists to wear helmets will not save lives

A video over on the Gran’s UK site.

Some may want to view it :)

Didn’t look at it, but since forcing cyclists to wear helmets reduces the number of cyclists, this probably does save lives.

poikilotherm said:

sibeen said:

Why forcing cyclists to wear helmets will not save lives

A video over on the Gran’s UK site.

Some may want to view it :)

What’s a little brain damage anyway

That’s what alcohols for!

AwesomeO said:

Germaine can get away with applause after telling an ABC audience that Gillard had a fat arse. ya reckon anyone of not the correct politcal persuasion could have got away with that?

Ah, dog with a bone.

The Rev Dodgson said:

AwesomeO said:

Bubblecar said:

Huh? There’s wall-to-wall outrage.

Nope still muted. Didn’t get a mention here for example.

Lots of things that are outrage-worthy don’t get a mention here, but apparently this did get a mention here, since we appear to be discussing it.

Start a thread. That might appease the crowd.

What good reason would you have to not wear a helmet when riding a bike

Cymek said:

What good reason would you have to not wear a helmet when riding a bike

Some people don’t like looking like a dork.

Cymek said:

What good reason would you have to not wear a helmet when riding a bike

I don’t know, but I think Bubblecar does.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Cymek said:

What good reason would you have to not wear a helmet when riding a bike

I don’t know, but I think Bubblecar does.

Wouldn’t have helped this guy.

Cymek said:

What good reason would you have to not wear a helmet when riding a bike

Helmet hair.

PermeateFree said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Cymek said:

What good reason would you have to not wear a helmet when riding a bike

I don’t know, but I think Bubblecar does.

Wouldn’t have helped this guy.

That is an amazing photo, it’s almost cartoonish.

sibeen said:

Why forcing cyclists to wear helmets will not save lives

A video over on the Gran’s UK site.

Some may want to view it :)

Just saying what I and other sensible people have been saying for years.

Bubblecar said:

sibeen said:

Why forcing cyclists to wear helmets will not save lives

A video over on the Gran’s UK site.

Some may want to view it :)

Just saying what I and other sensible people have been saying for years.

So falling off and smashing your head into the ground is the same helmet or not

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

sibeen said:

Why forcing cyclists to wear helmets will not save lives

A video over on the Gran’s UK site.

Some may want to view it :)

Just saying what I and other sensible people have been saying for years.

So falling off and smashing your head into the ground is the same helmet or not

That’s not what anyone is saying.

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

Just saying what I and other sensible people have been saying for years.

So falling off and smashing your head into the ground is the same helmet or not

That’s not what anyone is saying.

But if you wear one and that happens it will save lives then

Won’t somebody think of the hair?

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

So falling off and smashing your head into the ground is the same helmet or not

That’s not what anyone is saying.

But if you wear one and that happens it will save lives then

We’re talking about compulsory helmets.

In terms of public health, and road safety, it’s more important to encourage people to ride bikes than to force them to wear helmets, which tends to discourage bike use and make cycling seem more dangerous than it actually is.

kii said:

AwesomeO said:

Germaine can get away with applause after telling an ABC audience that Gillard had a fat arse. ya reckon anyone of not the correct politcal persuasion could have got away with that?

Ah, dog with a bone.

yer, same as afro-americans can call each other nigga and get away with it.

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

That’s not what anyone is saying.

But if you wear one and that happens it will save lives then

We’re talking about compulsory helmets.

In terms of public health, and road safety, it’s more important to encourage people to ride bikes than to force them to wear helmets, which tends to discourage bike use and make cycling seem more dangerous than it actually is.

Fair point, perhaps it should be just targeted at school children

poikilotherm said:

Won’t somebody think of the hair?

sibeen does. every day.

sorry sibeen.

JudgeMental said:

kii said:

AwesomeO said:

Germaine can get away with applause after telling an ABC audience that Gillard had a fat arse. ya reckon anyone of not the correct politcal persuasion could have got away with that?

Ah, dog with a bone.

yer, same as afro-americans can call each other nigga and get away with it.

What if you are white but your surname is nigga

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

That’s not what anyone is saying.

But if you wear one and that happens it will save lives then

We’re talking about compulsory helmets.

In terms of public health, and road safety, it’s more important to encourage people to ride bikes than to force them to wear helmets, which tends to discourage bike use and make cycling seem more dangerous than it actually is.

Apropos of nothing, I wear a helmet on the scooter which moves about a fastish jogging pace. I am not sure if I can be fined by the police but wear the helmet anyway. Without a threat of a fine I would still wear one because it is potentially beneficial and not harmful or inconvenient.

Cymek said:

JudgeMental said:

kii said:

Ah, dog with a bone.

yer, same as afro-americans can call each other nigga and get away with it.

What if you are white but your surname is nigga

you probably want to watch what areas you venture into.

AwesomeO said:

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

But if you wear one and that happens it will save lives then

We’re talking about compulsory helmets.

In terms of public health, and road safety, it’s more important to encourage people to ride bikes than to force them to wear helmets, which tends to discourage bike use and make cycling seem more dangerous than it actually is.

Apropos of nothing, I wear a helmet on the scooter which moves about a fastish jogging pace. I am not sure if I can be fined by the police but wear the helmet anyway. Without a threat of a fine I would still wear one because it is potentially beneficial and not harmful or inconvenient.

Probably the best method is as they say culture change, make the kiddies wear them and they will continue to do so as adults.

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

That’s not what anyone is saying.

But if you wear one and that happens it will save lives then

We’re talking about compulsory helmets.

In terms of public health, and road safety, it’s more important to encourage people to ride bikes than to force them to wear helmets, which tends to discourage bike use and make cycling seem more dangerous than it actually is.

It may be good for public health, although getting more people walking rather than short car trips would probably be better, but I can’t see how getting more cyclists on the road would improve road safety.

In terms of deaths/km, cycling is much worse than the alternatives.

JudgeMental said:

Cymek said:

JudgeMental said:

yer, same as afro-americans can call each other nigga and get away with it.

What if you are white but your surname is nigga

you probably want to watch what areas you venture into.

Chappelle has a skit doing exactly that, white family called nigga

AwesomeO said:

AwesomeO said:

Bubblecar said:

We’re talking about compulsory helmets.

In terms of public health, and road safety, it’s more important to encourage people to ride bikes than to force them to wear helmets, which tends to discourage bike use and make cycling seem more dangerous than it actually is.

Apropos of nothing, I wear a helmet on the scooter which moves about a fastish jogging pace. I am not sure if I can be fined by the police but wear the helmet anyway. Without a threat of a fine I would still wear one because it is potentially beneficial and not harmful or inconvenient.

Probably the best method is as they say culture change, make the kiddies wear them and they will continue to do so as adults.

I was going to say the same. Kids will grow up where it is normal to wear a helmet. my niece’s eldest is now doing BMX. with all the gear. I reckon they love it cos it looks tough and adult.

Cymek said:

JudgeMental said:

Cymek said:

What if you are white but your surname is nigga

you probably want to watch what areas you venture into.

Chappelle has a skit doing exactly that, white family called nigga

Yeah, niggas never pay their bills.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

But if you wear one and that happens it will save lives then

We’re talking about compulsory helmets.

In terms of public health, and road safety, it’s more important to encourage people to ride bikes than to force them to wear helmets, which tends to discourage bike use and make cycling seem more dangerous than it actually is.

It may be good for public health, although getting more people walking rather than short car trips would probably be better, but I can’t see how getting more cyclists on the road would improve road safety.

In terms of deaths/km, cycling is much worse than the alternatives.

I have noticed many cyclist don’t obey road rules, red lights are often just slow down

AwesomeO said:

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

But if you wear one and that happens it will save lives then

We’re talking about compulsory helmets.

In terms of public health, and road safety, it’s more important to encourage people to ride bikes than to force them to wear helmets, which tends to discourage bike use and make cycling seem more dangerous than it actually is.

Apropos of nothing, I wear a helmet on the scooter which moves about a fastish jogging pace. I am not sure if I can be fined by the police but wear the helmet anyway. Without a threat of a fine I would still wear one because it is potentially beneficial and not harmful or inconvenient.

An interesting look on a Harley.

How to get ketchup out of the bottle.

ketchup and science meet. everyone must watch this, possibly, life changing demonstration.

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

That’s not what anyone is saying.

But if you wear one and that happens it will save lives then

We’re talking about compulsory helmets.

In terms of public health, and road safety, it’s more important to encourage people to ride bikes than to force them to wear helmets, which tends to discourage bike use and make cycling seem more dangerous than it actually is.

Bollocks, the public health aspect is a spurious argument, you’re not suddenly going to get every fatty and their friend on a bike regularly, despite what they say in a survey…I’m willing to bet a pineapple or two on it.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

But if you wear one and that happens it will save lives then

We’re talking about compulsory helmets.

In terms of public health, and road safety, it’s more important to encourage people to ride bikes than to force them to wear helmets, which tends to discourage bike use and make cycling seem more dangerous than it actually is.

It may be good for public health, although getting more people walking rather than short car trips would probably be better, but I can’t see how getting more cyclists on the road would improve road safety.

In terms of deaths/km, cycling is much worse than the alternatives.

It’s well established that more cyclists on the roads results in roads that are safer for cyclists.

Plenty of studies on the internets.

More cyclists means fewer accidents, says report

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/may/07/cycling-safety-york-calderdale

PermeateFree said:

AwesomeO said:

Bubblecar said:

We’re talking about compulsory helmets.

In terms of public health, and road safety, it’s more important to encourage people to ride bikes than to force them to wear helmets, which tends to discourage bike use and make cycling seem more dangerous than it actually is.

Apropos of nothing, I wear a helmet on the scooter which moves about a fastish jogging pace. I am not sure if I can be fined by the police but wear the helmet anyway. Without a threat of a fine I would still wear one because it is potentially beneficial and not harmful or inconvenient.

An interesting look on a Harley.

poikilotherm said:

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

But if you wear one and that happens it will save lives then

We’re talking about compulsory helmets.

In terms of public health, and road safety, it’s more important to encourage people to ride bikes than to force them to wear helmets, which tends to discourage bike use and make cycling seem more dangerous than it actually is.

Bollocks, the public health aspect is a spurious argument, you’re not suddenly going to get every fatty and their friend on a bike regularly, despite what they say in a survey…I’m willing to bet a pineapple or two on it.

Probably not, in Oz. It may be too late to do anything about low participation by various groups here.

But you can understand why countries like Holland are not interested in scaring cyclists off the roads with compulsory helmet laws.

JudgeMental said:

How to get ketchup out of the bottle.

ketchup and science meet. everyone must watch this, possibly, life changing demonstration.

Not watched but assumed they shook the bottle, sauce et al being a non newtonian fluid

poikilotherm said:

JudgeMental said:

How to get ketchup out of the bottle.

ketchup and science meet. everyone must watch this, possibly, life changing demonstration.

Not watched but assumed they shook the bottle, sauce et al being a non newtonian fluid

no spoilers from me.

:-)

Bubblecar said:

poikilotherm said:

Bubblecar said:

We’re talking about compulsory helmets.

In terms of public health, and road safety, it’s more important to encourage people to ride bikes than to force them to wear helmets, which tends to discourage bike use and make cycling seem more dangerous than it actually is.

Bollocks, the public health aspect is a spurious argument, you’re not suddenly going to get every fatty and their friend on a bike regularly, despite what they say in a survey…I’m willing to bet a pineapple or two on it.

Probably not, in Oz. It may be too late to do anything about low participation by various groups here.

But you can understand why countries like Holland are not interested in scaring cyclists off the roads with compulsory helmet laws.

A country set up for cycling versus one where the car rules, not exactly comparable. Plus, one of them is full of dutch people.

poikilotherm said:

JudgeMental said:

How to get ketchup out of the bottle.

ketchup and science meet. everyone must watch this, possibly, life changing demonstration.

Not watched but assumed they shook the bottle, sauce et al being a non newtonian fluid

In Queensland we call it tomato sauce.

JudgeMental said:

poikilotherm said:

JudgeMental said:

How to get ketchup out of the bottle.

ketchup and science meet. everyone must watch this, possibly, life changing demonstration.

Not watched but assumed they shook the bottle, sauce et al being a non newtonian fluid

no spoilers from me.

:-)

it was one of those things you don’t really think about, then see this explanation. you do a bit of a search on the subject and discover the method is quite well known.

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

We’re talking about compulsory helmets.

In terms of public health, and road safety, it’s more important to encourage people to ride bikes than to force them to wear helmets, which tends to discourage bike use and make cycling seem more dangerous than it actually is.

It may be good for public health, although getting more people walking rather than short car trips would probably be better, but I can’t see how getting more cyclists on the road would improve road safety.

In terms of deaths/km, cycling is much worse than the alternatives.

It’s well established that more cyclists on the roads results in roads that are safer for cyclists.

Plenty of studies on the internets.

More cyclists means fewer accidents, says report

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/may/07/cycling-safety-york-calderdale

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

We’re talking about compulsory helmets.

In terms of public health, and road safety, it’s more important to encourage people to ride bikes than to force them to wear helmets, which tends to discourage bike use and make cycling seem more dangerous than it actually is.

It may be good for public health, although getting more people walking rather than short car trips would probably be better, but I can’t see how getting more cyclists on the road would improve road safety.

In terms of deaths/km, cycling is much worse than the alternatives.

It’s well established that more cyclists on the roads results in roads that are safer for cyclists.

Plenty of studies on the internets.

More cyclists means fewer accidents, says report

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/may/07/cycling-safety-york-calderdale

The trouble is, the evidence is shamelessly presented in a misleading way by people with a vested interest.

Even if it is true that more cyclists means fewer accidents/km, and due to the difficulty of excluding other factors that must be very doubtful, there is no doubt that a trip on a bicycle has a much higher chance of a fatal accident than the same trip in a car, so more people on bikes will mean more deaths in road accidents, other things being equal.

poikilotherm said:

Bubblecar said:

poikilotherm said:

Bollocks, the public health aspect is a spurious argument, you’re not suddenly going to get every fatty and their friend on a bike regularly, despite what they say in a survey…I’m willing to bet a pineapple or two on it.

Probably not, in Oz. It may be too late to do anything about low participation by various groups here.

But you can understand why countries like Holland are not interested in scaring cyclists off the roads with compulsory helmet laws.

A country set up for cycling versus one where the car rules, not exactly comparable. Plus, one of them is full of dutch people.

I’d ride a bike in Holland, flat as a pancake.

Peak Warming Man said:

poikilotherm said:

JudgeMental said:

How to get ketchup out of the bottle.

ketchup and science meet. everyone must watch this, possibly, life changing demonstration.

Not watched but assumed they shook the bottle, sauce et al being a non newtonian fluid

In Queensland we call it tomato sauce.

yes, ketchup was american.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

It may be good for public health, although getting more people walking rather than short car trips would probably be better, but I can’t see how getting more cyclists on the road would improve road safety.

In terms of deaths/km, cycling is much worse than the alternatives.

It’s well established that more cyclists on the roads results in roads that are safer for cyclists.

Plenty of studies on the internets.

More cyclists means fewer accidents, says report

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/may/07/cycling-safety-york-calderdale

The trouble is, the evidence is shamelessly presented in a misleading way by people with a vested interest.

Even if it is true that more cyclists means fewer accidents/km, and due to the difficulty of excluding other factors that must be very doubtful, there is no doubt that a trip on a bicycle has a much higher chance of a fatal accident than the same trip in a car, so more people on bikes will mean more deaths in road accidents, other things being equal.

Ben Goldacre did an article on this sort of thing, published in the BMJ in 2013.

In all seriousness I’d ban those cycles where they lie on their back and pedal, they are ‘ken dangerous and should not be on the roads.

Peak Warming Man said:

In all seriousness I’d ban those cycles where they lie on their back and pedal, they are ‘ken dangerous and should not be on the roads.

On the plus you’d barely notice you’d have run one over in the Triton.

Peak Warming Man said:

In all seriousness I’d ban those cycles where they lie on their back and pedal, they are ‘ken dangerous and should not be on the roads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iz7ZMALaCY

wait for the motorcyclist.

:-)

Bubblecar said:

It’s well established that more cyclists on the roads results in roads that are safer for cyclists.

Plenty of studies on the internets.

More cyclists means fewer accidents, says report

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/may/07/cycling-safety-york-calderdale

Having now looked at that article, I’m surprised that you would post such a thing as evidence for the safety of cycling.

The Rev Dodgson said:

The trouble is, the evidence is shamelessly presented in a misleading way by people with a vested interest.

Even if it is true that more cyclists means fewer accidents/km, and due to the difficulty of excluding other factors that must be very doubtful, there is no doubt that a trip on a bicycle has a much higher chance of a fatal accident than the same trip in a car, so more people on bikes will mean more deaths in road accidents, other things being equal.

It’s the mix of traffic that matters. More people on bikes should mean fewer people in cars, thus safer roads for bikes.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s well established that more cyclists on the roads results in roads that are safer for cyclists.

Plenty of studies on the internets.

More cyclists means fewer accidents, says report

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/may/07/cycling-safety-york-calderdale

Having now looked at that article, I’m surprised that you would post such a thing as evidence for the safety of cycling.

Well I’m not here for an argument :)

This forum has been through all this stuff many times, it gets too repetitive.

But in the debate globally, the pro-compuslory helmet side are definitely outnumbered.

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s well established that more cyclists on the roads results in roads that are safer for cyclists.

Plenty of studies on the internets.

More cyclists means fewer accidents, says report

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/may/07/cycling-safety-york-calderdale

Having now looked at that article, I’m surprised that you would post such a thing as evidence for the safety of cycling.

Well I’m not here for an argument :)

This forum has been through all this stuff many times, it gets too repetitive.

But in the debate globally, the pro-compuslory helmet side are definitely outnumbered.

Chinese smokers outnumber Australian non smokers globally too, we should all be taking it up ASAP!

Bubblecar said:

This forum has been through all this stuff many times, it gets too repetitive.

OK, I can agree with that bit.

JudgeMental said:

Peak Warming Man said:

In all seriousness I’d ban those cycles where they lie on their back and pedal, they are ‘ken dangerous and should not be on the roads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iz7ZMALaCY

wait for the motorcyclist.

:-)

pommiejohn said:

JudgeMental said:

Peak Warming Man said:

In all seriousness I’d ban those cycles where they lie on their back and pedal, they are ‘ken dangerous and should not be on the roads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iz7ZMALaCY

wait for the motorcyclist.

:-)

JudgeMental said:

Peak Warming Man said:

In all seriousness I’d ban those cycles where they lie on their back and pedal, they are ‘ken dangerous and should not be on the roads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iz7ZMALaCY

wait for the motorcyclist.

:-)

It’s quite a decent video in that it shows how much wind resistance slows down a bike.

They banned that style of riding in professional circles years ago after a few riders did it in races.

Time to pack up and head down the mountain.
I’ll have to curtail my trips, the cost of diesel has gone through the roof.

Peak Warming Man said:

Time to pack up and head down the mountain.
I’ll have to curtail my trips, the cost of diesel has gone through the roof.

You should start making your own from cow shit or something.

party_pants said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Time to pack up and head down the mountain.
I’ll have to curtail my trips, the cost of diesel has gone through the roof.

You should start making your own from cow shit or something.

Reading about the war in Afghanistan, the caves had walls caked in horse/donkey shit as a insulation.

pommiejohn said:

pommiejohn said:

JudgeMental said:

Peak Warming Man said:

In all seriousness I’d ban those cycles where they lie on their back and pedal, they are ‘ken dangerous and should not be on the roads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iz7ZMALaCY

wait for the motorcyclist.

:-)

Just got around to reading that article. Vincent Black Shadow, i’ve been up close to one of them.

JudgeMental said:

pommiejohn said:

pommiejohn said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iz7ZMALaCY

wait for the motorcyclist.

:-)

Just got around to reading that article. Vincent Black Shadow, i’ve been up close to one of them.

http://www.babysitterofthedamned.com/2005/05/old-land-speed-record-pic.html

hello. friday night has arrived. soup and toast was the dinner choice. not too bad at all.

monkey skipper said:

hello. friday night has arrived. soup and toast was the dinner choice. not too bad at all.

Early dinner. Are you like 80yo? :-p

monkey skipper said:

hello. friday night has arrived. soup and toast was the dinner choice. not too bad at all.

Hello monkey. I’m doing something with diced pork and Brussels sprouts.

Tonight is freezer stew and mashed spud and my freezer is now looking brilliant with everything organised.

Witty Rejoinder said:

monkey skipper said:

hello. friday night has arrived. soup and toast was the dinner choice. not too bad at all.

Early dinner. Are you like 80yo? :-p

not quite!

i will be 50 this year. which i am happy about too. :)

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

hello. friday night has arrived. soup and toast was the dinner choice. not too bad at all.

Hello monkey. I’m doing something with diced pork and Brussels sprouts.

something?

monkey skipper said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

monkey skipper said:

hello. friday night has arrived. soup and toast was the dinner choice. not too bad at all.

Early dinner. Are you like 80yo? :-p

not quite!

i will be 50 this year. which i am happy about too. :)

I’m 59 on Sunday. Born in 59, aged 59.

And as part of my cleanup I took out some chuck beef which tomorrow will be turned into a curry and put into containers and put back in.

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

hello. friday night has arrived. soup and toast was the dinner choice. not too bad at all.

Hello monkey. I’m doing something with diced pork and Brussels sprouts.

something?

Yes, cooking them and putting them on a plate.

I could do a sauce as well and maybe some rice.

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Early dinner. Are you like 80yo? :-p

not quite!

i will be 50 this year. which i am happy about too. :)

I’m 59 on Sunday. Born in 59, aged 59.

conspiracy theory. your parents were part of a secret society and planned this day and moment ….:D

monkey skipper said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

monkey skipper said:

hello. friday night has arrived. soup and toast was the dinner choice. not too bad at all.

Early dinner. Are you like 80yo? :-p

not quite!

i will be 50 this year. which i am happy about too. :)

I don’t like middle age, still think like I did when I was young hopefully somewhat wiser, but feel worn down by life

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

hello. friday night has arrived. soup and toast was the dinner choice. not too bad at all.

Hello monkey. I’m doing something with diced pork and Brussels sprouts.

and,,,,, drum roll ….. I am waiting for my hospital dinner. Ordered it while doped up on endone.. not sure what I ordered but pretty sure it involved potato bake. will keep you updated…

AwesomeO said:

And as part of my cleanup I took out some chuck beef which tomorrow will be turned into a curry and put into containers and put back in.

you will make someone a good wife … one day…..

Brindabellas said:

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

hello. friday night has arrived. soup and toast was the dinner choice. not too bad at all.

Hello monkey. I’m doing something with diced pork and Brussels sprouts.

and,,,,, drum roll ….. I am waiting for my hospital dinner. Ordered it while doped up on endone.. not sure what I ordered but pretty sure it involved potato bake. will keep you updated…

Jolly good. We still don’t know why you’re in hospital :)

Brindabellas said:

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

hello. friday night has arrived. soup and toast was the dinner choice. not too bad at all.

Hello monkey. I’m doing something with diced pork and Brussels sprouts.

and,,,,, drum roll ….. I am waiting for my hospital dinner. Ordered it while doped up on endone.. not sure what I ordered but pretty sure it involved potato bake. will keep you updated…

you in hostipool?

monkey skipper said:

AwesomeO said:

And as part of my cleanup I took out some chuck beef which tomorrow will be turned into a curry and put into containers and put back in.

you will make someone a good wife … one day…..

When acting as a stay at home wife I used to do the cooking and that was for teenagers as well, cleaning not so much.

Bubblecar said:

Brindabellas said:

Bubblecar said:

Hello monkey. I’m doing something with diced pork and Brussels sprouts.

and,,,,, drum roll ….. I am waiting for my hospital dinner. Ordered it while doped up on endone.. not sure what I ordered but pretty sure it involved potato bake. will keep you updated…

Jolly good. We still don’t know why you’re in hospital :)

sorry – if you really cared, you would have scrolled through chat. I had a High Tibial Osteotomy – basically a wheel alignment for my knee Should last me 10 years before a total replacement is needed

Bubblecar said:

Brindabellas said:

Bubblecar said:

Hello monkey. I’m doing something with diced pork and Brussels sprouts.

and,,,,, drum roll ….. I am waiting for my hospital dinner. Ordered it while doped up on endone.. not sure what I ordered but pretty sure it involved potato bake. will keep you updated…

Jolly good. We still don’t know why you’re in hospital :)

Maybe ‘hospital’ is a euphemism for some other kind of incarceration…

captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Brindabellas said:

and,,,,, drum roll ….. I am waiting for my hospital dinner. Ordered it while doped up on endone.. not sure what I ordered but pretty sure it involved potato bake. will keep you updated…

Jolly good. We still don’t know why you’re in hospital :)

Maybe ‘hospital’ is a euphemism for some other kind of incarceration…

oo oo rumour monger capt’n :)

Cymek said:

monkey skipper said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Early dinner. Are you like 80yo? :-p

not quite!

i will be 50 this year. which i am happy about too. :)

I don’t like middle age, still think like I did when I was young hopefully somewhat wiser, but feel worn down by life

Inside every 80 year old is an 8 year old looking out and wondering what the fuck happened.

sibeen said:

Cymek said:

monkey skipper said:

not quite!

i will be 50 this year. which i am happy about too. :)

I don’t like middle age, still think like I did when I was young hopefully somewhat wiser, but feel worn down by life

Inside every 80 year old is an 8 year old looking out and wondering what the fuck happened.

Yeah I can imagine

Dinner has arrived – it is roast veal with potato bake with sticky date custard dessert. Even looks slight;y edible

sibeen said:

Cymek said:

monkey skipper said:

not quite!

i will be 50 this year. which i am happy about too. :)

I don’t like middle age, still think like I did when I was young hopefully somewhat wiser, but feel worn down by life

Inside every 80 year old is an 8 year old looking out and wondering what the fuck happened.

Nonsense.

Inside, i’m still only six.

Hooly… a biopic about Benny Hill is in the works. Let the non-PC outrage begin!

Brindabellas said:

Dinner has arrived – it is roast veal with potato bake with sticky date custard dessert. Even looks slight;y edible

Which State health service has the honour of your presence?

Fridays are usually take-away nights here.

Divine Angel said:

Hooly… a biopic about Benny Hill is in the works. Let the non-PC outrage begin!

He was a product of his time. The market was there, he supplied it, the market responded well, and he prospered because of it.

Society is to blame.

Brindabellas said:

Bubblecar said:

Brindabellas said:

and,,,,, drum roll ….. I am waiting for my hospital dinner. Ordered it while doped up on endone.. not sure what I ordered but pretty sure it involved potato bake. will keep you updated…

Jolly good. We still don’t know why you’re in hospital :)

sorry – if you really cared, you would have scrolled through chat. I had a High Tibial Osteotomy – basically a wheel alignment for my knee Should last me 10 years before a total replacement is needed

Ah, sorry. I didn’t realise you’d peeped in earlier.

I hope the knee surgeon did a splendid job and you won’t need to go back for aaaaages.

I’m in two minds about FNDC. On the one hand, I don’t want a hangover tomorrow as I’ll be finishing all the housework and making two fine quiches.

OTOH, a few drinks would probably help me sleep tonight.

I may just go and get one bottle of wine.

captain_spalding said:

Brindabellas said:

Dinner has arrived – it is roast veal with potato bake with sticky date custard dessert. Even looks slight;y edible

Which State health service has the honour of your presence?

If I waited for a public funded hospital and would have to wait another 3 years. Instead, as I have private health insurance, and live in Canberra, I have sold my first born for the opportunity of having a private room. Did anyone watch 4 corners on Monday? Going to cost me thousands – but better than waiting.

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

Hooly… a biopic about Benny Hill is in the works. Let the non-PC outrage begin!

He was a product of his time. The market was there, he supplied it, the market responded well, and he prospered because of it.

Society is to blame.

I have no problem with things being a product of their time. I’m still outraged Enid Blyton’s books have characters renamed and Song of the South is hidden away, never to be released on streaming or DVD.

Brindabellas said:

captain_spalding said:

Brindabellas said:

Dinner has arrived – it is roast veal with potato bake with sticky date custard dessert. Even looks slight;y edible

Which State health service has the honour of your presence?

If I waited for a public funded hospital and would have to wait another 3 years. Instead, as I have private health insurance, and live in Canberra, I have sold my first born for the opportunity of having a private room. Did anyone watch 4 corners on Monday? Going to cost me thousands – but better than waiting.

and the meals at the private hospital come from the caterers from the Public hospital across the road,

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

Hooly… a biopic about Benny Hill is in the works. Let the non-PC outrage begin!

He was a product of his time. The market was there, he supplied it, the market responded well, and he prospered because of it.

Society is to blame.

I watched a Benny Hill blooper seem once. His director was an absolute bastard, swearing at him in feral anger the moment he did anything that didn’t work perfectly.

I don’t think Benny Hill can be blamed. Or society.

Brindabellas said:

Brindabellas said:

captain_spalding said:

Which State health service has the honour of your presence?

If I waited for a public funded hospital and would have to wait another 3 years. Instead, as I have private health insurance, and live in Canberra, I have sold my first born for the opportunity of having a private room. Did anyone watch 4 corners on Monday? Going to cost me thousands – but better than waiting.

and the meals at the private hospital come from the caterers from the Public hospital across the road,

I wonder if they put more effort or better ingredients into the private meals.

Brindabellas said:

If I waited for a public funded hospital and would have to wait another 3 years. Instead, as I have private health insurance, and live in Canberra, I have sold my first born for the opportunity of having a private room. Did anyone watch 4 corners on Monday? Going to cost me thousands – but better than waiting.

Ah. Mind the gap.

When i worked in Revenue in Qld hospital, we loved patients with private health insurance.

We could persuade them to let us bill their health fund for accommodation costs (quite legit), and we’d write off their $250, $500, $whatever excess.

We made money out of it, of which the local hospital kept 100%, and the patient didn’t have to pay their excess to any private or public hospital for the rest of the fin. year.

Cost to patient = $nil. Win/win.

I could make $250,000 per month for the hospital on my lonesome.

Between four of five of us in the outfit, we made literally millions for the direct benefit of the local public hospital each year.

When i left there, our goal was $1 million per month, and we weren’t far off it.

> seem

Reel. Spellckecker.

Bubblecar said:

I wonder if they put more effort or better ingredients into the private meals.

I was curious, because when my dad was in hospital in Sydney, all the meals for many hospitals came from a central kitchen out Homebush way or somewhere.

The only thing you could be sure of was that it’d be absolutely stone-cold by the time you got it.

He lived on sandwiches that my mum took in for him.

In Qld, regional/local hospitals still have local kitchens. I was at the local one this morning – the smell had me thinking that if it tasted half as good as it smelled, i could’ve really gone for some.

captain_spalding said:

Brindabellas said:

If I waited for a public funded hospital and would have to wait another 3 years. Instead, as I have private health insurance, and live in Canberra, I have sold my first born for the opportunity of having a private room. Did anyone watch 4 corners on Monday? Going to cost me thousands – but better than waiting.

Ah. Mind the gap.

When i worked in Revenue in Qld hospital, we loved patients with private health insurance.

We could persuade them to let us bill their health fund for accommodation costs (quite legit), and we’d write off their $250, $500, $whatever excess.

We made money out of it, of which the local hospital kept 100%, and the patient didn’t have to pay their excess to any private or public hospital for the rest of the fin. year.

Cost to patient = $nil. Win/win.

I could make $250,000 per month for the hospital on my lonesome.

Between four of five of us in the outfit, we made literally millions for the direct benefit of the local public hospital each year.

When i left there, our goal was $1 million per month, and we weren’t far off it.

When I went in for my little heart condition they came to me and got the details of my private health insurance all the while telling me that it wasn’t going to cost me a cent. I knew what the thieving bastards were up to and encouraged them to go the whole hog.

The meals are the same. They have improved heaps. And they were still warm – but the public hospital is only across the road. So much rip off with medical fees – I am fortunate to be able to pay for the gap – but we have paid full health insurance (no rebate) plus the medicare level, and still have to pay about $7,000 – and that doesnt’ include rehab costs of physio and hydro

arvo folks

sibeen said:

When I went in for my little heart condition they came to me and got the details of my private health insurance all the while telling me that it wasn’t going to cost me a cent. I knew what the thieving bastards were up to and encouraged them to go the whole hog.

Was that Qld Health, sibeen?

If so, i don’t know what was going on if it cost you anything.

Under the arrangement i described, we never billed a patient for anything. We billed their health fund, yes, but not the patient. The patients never paid a cent, and left with their excess for that year taken care of, at no cost to them.

AFAIK, that’s the Qld Health policy, and applies everywhere.

captain_spalding said:

sibeen said:

When I went in for my little heart condition they came to me and got the details of my private health insurance all the while telling me that it wasn’t going to cost me a cent. I knew what the thieving bastards were up to and encouraged them to go the whole hog.

Was that Qld Health, sibeen?

If so, i don’t know what was going on if it cost you anything.

Under the arrangement i described, we never billed a patient for anything. We billed their health fund, yes, but not the patient. The patients never paid a cent, and left with their excess for that year taken care of, at no cost to them.

AFAIK, that’s the Qld Health policy, and applies everywhere.

in tassie with private health, they charged you the gap unless you were in for 3 days or more

captain_spalding said:

sibeen said:

When I went in for my little heart condition they came to me and got the details of my private health insurance all the while telling me that it wasn’t going to cost me a cent. I knew what the thieving bastards were up to and encouraged them to go the whole hog.

Was that Qld Health, sibeen?

If so, i don’t know what was going on if it cost you anything.

Under the arrangement i described, we never billed a patient for anything. We billed their health fund, yes, but not the patient. The patients never paid a cent, and left with their excess for that year taken care of, at no cost to them.

AFAIK, that’s the Qld Health policy, and applies everywhere.

Sorry, I must have worded that quite badly. In was Vic health and it cost me nary a cent. I was encouraging them to chow down on teh health fund :)

sibeen said:

Sorry, I must have worded that quite badly. In was Vic health and it cost me nary a cent. I was encouraging them to chow down on teh health fund :)

Oh, right.

It was very nice, working in that Revenue dept.

We were of direct benefit to the hospital, the patients liked the idea of whacking their health fund for a change, especially for ‘public’ benefit, and hospital management absolutely adored us.

Hello Holidayers. I am home from work. Upgraded some bulbs in this room and now it’s nice and light in here. Including in the antique standard lamp. Although I used warm white in that. Looks better than Daylight for that sort of fitting. The angle poise lamp at the sewing machine went Daylight though.

Oh…was Droppy here when I wasn’t?

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

Guilt by association. The L/NP will paint him as representative of Labor, no matter what.

As well, Mark will have full agenda of revenge to work through if he makes it back to Parliament, under whatever banner. We can count on him to do his best to sabotage his erstwhile colleagues.

Only crazy people would vote for him.

I think most people here voted for him.

Pfft, I was living in Malcolm Fraser’s electorate. Couldn’t vote for Mark Latham.

party_pants is go for FNDC

upon my mark

3
2
1
MARK!

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

Hooly… a biopic about Benny Hill is in the works. Let the non-PC outrage begin!

He was a product of his time. The market was there, he supplied it, the market responded well, and he prospered because of it.

Society is to blame.

The much under-rated fleet-footed Benny Hill certainly knew how to evade a gaggle of short skirted irate nurses…..

Cue Yackety Sax…..

captain_spalding said:

sibeen said:

Sorry, I must have worded that quite badly. In was Vic health and it cost me nary a cent. I was encouraging them to chow down on teh health fund :)

Oh, right.

It was very nice, working in that Revenue dept.

We were of direct benefit to the hospital, the patients liked the idea of whacking their health fund for a change, especially for ‘public’ benefit, and hospital management absolutely adored us.

But if everything was funded correctly, this would not be required. I have experience at work where the state government have demanded that a commonwealth department pay about 4 times the actual cost of services they delivered, Had us over a barrel and had to pay So basically the tax payers have to pay for it in the end.

party_pants said:

party_pants is go for FNDC

upon my mark

3
2
1
MARK!

tilts glass p_p-wards

party_pants said:

party_pants is go for FNDC

upon my mark

3
2
1
MARK!

dont think I should mix alcohol with the drugs I am on,,, but hey, I could always live dangerously.

Stumpy_seahorse said:

captain_spalding said:

sibeen said:

When I went in for my little heart condition they came to me and got the details of my private health insurance all the while telling me that it wasn’t going to cost me a cent. I knew what the thieving bastards were up to and encouraged them to go the whole hog.

Was that Qld Health, sibeen?

If so, i don’t know what was going on if it cost you anything.

Under the arrangement i described, we never billed a patient for anything. We billed their health fund, yes, but not the patient. The patients never paid a cent, and left with their excess for that year taken care of, at no cost to them.

AFAIK, that’s the Qld Health policy, and applies everywhere.

in tassie with private health, they charged you the gap unless you were in for 3 days or more

You’d have to be on some sort of frequent flyer discount surely? :-p

Witty Rejoinder said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

captain_spalding said:

Was that Qld Health, sibeen?

If so, i don’t know what was going on if it cost you anything.

Under the arrangement i described, we never billed a patient for anything. We billed their health fund, yes, but not the patient. The patients never paid a cent, and left with their excess for that year taken care of, at no cost to them.

AFAIK, that’s the Qld Health policy, and applies everywhere.

in tassie with private health, they charged you the gap unless you were in for 3 days or more

You’d have to be on some sort of frequent flyer discount surely? :-p

something like that..

although it is true that you get what you pay for….

party_pants said:

party_pants is go for FNDC

upon my mark

3
2
1
MARK!

Rum and pepsi max?

Brindabellas said:

party_pants said:

party_pants is go for FNDC

upon my mark

3
2
1
MARK!

dont think I should mix alcohol with the drugs I am on,,, but hey, I could always live dangerously.

We all tried to get Skunky to drink when he was in hospital but peer pressure didn’t work.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Brindabellas said:

party_pants said:

party_pants is go for FNDC

upon my mark

3
2
1
MARK!

dont think I should mix alcohol with the drugs I am on,,, but hey, I could always live dangerously.

We all tried to get Skunky to drink when he was in hospital but peer pressure didn’t work.

FNDC?

Brindabellas said:

party_pants said:

party_pants is go for FNDC

upon my mark

3
2
1
MARK!

dont think I should mix alcohol with the drugs I am on,,, but hey, I could always live dangerously.

Don’t take any risk for my sake, in your delicate condition.

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

party_pants is go for FNDC

upon my mark

3
2
1
MARK!

Rum and pepsi max?

Captain Morgans spiced rum to be precise.

mollwollfumble said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Brindabellas said:

dont think I should mix alcohol with the drugs I am on,,, but hey, I could always live dangerously.

We all tried to get Skunky to drink when he was in hospital but peer pressure didn’t work.

FNDC?

Friday Night Drinking Club.

mollwollfumble said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Brindabellas said:

dont think I should mix alcohol with the drugs I am on,,, but hey, I could always live dangerously.

We all tried to get Skunky to drink when he was in hospital but peer pressure didn’t work.

FNDC?

Shirley you know what FNDC stands for?

party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

party_pants is go for FNDC

upon my mark

3
2
1
MARK!

Rum and pepsi max?

Captain Morgans spiced rum to be precise.

Cheers. Sauv blanc here.

I’ve been a member of FNDC for about 15 years – though I haven’t been turning up to meetings lately (still drinking though).

party_pants said:

party_pants is go for FNDC

upon my mark

3
2
1
MARK!

Cheers.

Brindabellas said:

I’ve been a member of FNDC for about 15 years – though I haven’t been turning up to meetings lately (still drinking though).

Cheers, for when you’re next able to enjoy a drink without getting into trouble :)

Brindabellas said:

I’ve been a member of FNDC for about 15 years – though I haven’t been turning up to meetings lately (still drinking though).

I believe one of the requirements to continued membership is to make 7 drunken posts per annum. Of course you can make more. and some here take that to extreme.

party_pants said:

party_pants is go for FNDC

upon my mark

3
2
1
MARK!

I think bubbles called it yesterday.

Spicy whiskey here.. Cheers

Diced pork now simmering in olive oil & butter along with chopped onion, garlic and a large sliced mushroom.

I’ll add some mustard, aoili and white pepper in a moment.

Bubblecar said:

Diced pork now simmering in olive oil & butter along with chopped onion, garlic and a large sliced mushroom.

I’ll add some mustard, aoili and white pepper in a moment.

have you always enjoyed food and making food? it seems like one of your passions bubblecar.

captain_spalding said:

sibeen said:

When I went in for my little heart condition they came to me and got the details of my private health insurance all the while telling me that it wasn’t going to cost me a cent. I knew what the thieving bastards were up to and encouraged them to go the whole hog.

Was that Qld Health, sibeen?

If so, i don’t know what was going on if it cost you anything.

Under the arrangement i described, we never billed a patient for anything. We billed their health fund, yes, but not the patient. The patients never paid a cent, and left with their excess for that year taken care of, at no cost to them.

AFAIK, that’s the Qld Health policy, and applies everywhere.

Didn’t Qld run a lottery that paid for the hospitals, which was discontinued once public heath became a federal entity?

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

Diced pork now simmering in olive oil & butter along with chopped onion, garlic and a large sliced mushroom.

I’ll add some mustard, aoili and white pepper in a moment.

have you always enjoyed food and making food? it seems like one of your passions bubblecar.

Yes, the whole family are enthusiastic cooks but it’s the older sister who’s really serious about it.

Mmm, butter chicken…

JudgeMental said:

Brindabellas said:

I’ve been a member of FNDC for about 15 years – though I haven’t been turning up to meetings lately (still drinking though).

I believe one of the requirements to continued membership is to make 7 drunken posts per annum. Of course you can make more. and some here take that to extreme.

It is legal to talk about our drunkenness. The 12 Holiday Steps.

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

Hooly… a biopic about Benny Hill is in the works. Let the non-PC outrage begin!

He was a product of his time. The market was there, he supplied it, the market responded well, and he prospered because of it.

Society is to blame.

I never, ever understood why people thought he was funny. Incredibly cringeworthy.

buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

Hooly… a biopic about Benny Hill is in the works. Let the non-PC outrage begin!

He was a product of his time. The market was there, he supplied it, the market responded well, and he prospered because of it.

Society is to blame.

I never, ever understood why people thought he was funny. Incredibly cringeworthy.

I concur.

Brindabellas said:

The meals are the same. They have improved heaps. And they were still warm – but the public hospital is only across the road. So much rip off with medical fees – I am fortunate to be able to pay for the gap – but we have paid full health insurance (no rebate) plus the medicare level, and still have to pay about $7,000 – and that doesnt’ include rehab costs of physio and hydro

How come no rebate?

On opalized fossils. Here’s one of my brain.

Thumbs up for Brussels sprouts cooked in the microwave. Works very well.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-01/cow-tied-in-trailer-leads-police-to-property/9826188

That cow must have been used to lying in a trailer like that. It’s difficult to get them to lie down, and it appears to be watching the scenery.

Good evening forumites,

We have just finished our dinner tonight of steak, sausages and salad. At the end of my meal, I was still munching on salad (and talking between mouthfuls) and accidentally swallowed the most enormous bubble of air I have ever swallowed. Now everyone knows this is painful, but this was something else altogether. While I was waiting for the bubble to move down and for the pain to die down, I started feeling strange and told Mr Speedy that I thought I was going to pass out. Which I did. He was standing beside me, holding my head up off my chest and repeating “Are you alright?”.
It took a while to focus and wake from what seemed like a jumble of long dreams, as though I had been sleeping for hours, but he told me I simply slumped but kept my eyes open for no more than a few seconds. Now my lower abdomen hurts.

What this all about? How can swallowing an enormous bubble of air do that?

Isn’t this gorgeous!

From here:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-08/stunning-snowy-owl-photos-captured-by-montreal-traffic-camera/7076636

Speedy said:

Good evening forumites,

We have just finished our dinner tonight of steak, sausages and salad. At the end of my meal, I was still munching on salad (and talking between mouthfuls) and accidentally swallowed the most enormous bubble of air I have ever swallowed. Now everyone knows this is painful, but this was something else altogether. While I was waiting for the bubble to move down and for the pain to die down, I started feeling strange and told Mr Speedy that I thought I was going to pass out. Which I did. He was standing beside me, holding my head up off my chest and repeating “Are you alright?”.
It took a while to focus and wake from what seemed like a jumble of long dreams, as though I had been sleeping for hours, but he told me I simply slumped but kept my eyes open for no more than a few seconds. Now my lower abdomen hurts.

What this all about? How can swallowing an enormous bubble of air do that?

Sounds very odd to me Speedy. I’m unaccustomed to this swallowing of bubbles of air of which you speak. Don’t think I’ve ever experienced it.

I got it linking out from here.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-08/stunning-snowy-owl-photos-captured-by-montreal-traffic-camera/7076636

Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Good evening forumites,

We have just finished our dinner tonight of steak, sausages and salad. At the end of my meal, I was still munching on salad (and talking between mouthfuls) and accidentally swallowed the most enormous bubble of air I have ever swallowed. Now everyone knows this is painful, but this was something else altogether. While I was waiting for the bubble to move down and for the pain to die down, I started feeling strange and told Mr Speedy that I thought I was going to pass out. Which I did. He was standing beside me, holding my head up off my chest and repeating “Are you alright?”.
It took a while to focus and wake from what seemed like a jumble of long dreams, as though I had been sleeping for hours, but he told me I simply slumped but kept my eyes open for no more than a few seconds. Now my lower abdomen hurts.

What this all about? How can swallowing an enormous bubble of air do that?

Sounds very odd to me Speedy. I’m unaccustomed to this swallowing of bubbles of air of which you speak. Don’t think I’ve ever experienced it.

So everyone doesn’t know, I suppose :)

buffy said:

Isn’t this gorgeous!

From here:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-08/stunning-snowy-owl-photos-captured-by-montreal-traffic-camera/7076636

Lovely bird.

Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Good evening forumites,

We have just finished our dinner tonight of steak, sausages and salad. At the end of my meal, I was still munching on salad (and talking between mouthfuls) and accidentally swallowed the most enormous bubble of air I have ever swallowed. Now everyone knows this is painful, but this was something else altogether. While I was waiting for the bubble to move down and for the pain to die down, I started feeling strange and told Mr Speedy that I thought I was going to pass out. Which I did. He was standing beside me, holding my head up off my chest and repeating “Are you alright?”.
It took a while to focus and wake from what seemed like a jumble of long dreams, as though I had been sleeping for hours, but he told me I simply slumped but kept my eyes open for no more than a few seconds. Now my lower abdomen hurts.

What this all about? How can swallowing an enormous bubble of air do that?

Sounds very odd to me Speedy. I’m unaccustomed to this swallowing of bubbles of air of which you speak. Don’t think I’ve ever experienced it.

So everyone doesn’t know, I suppose :)

maybe I do it. feels like you need a big burp.

Sorry Speedy, no idea. I gulp air when I drink water or milk, but it’s not painful.

Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Good evening forumites,

We have just finished our dinner tonight of steak, sausages and salad. At the end of my meal, I was still munching on salad (and talking between mouthfuls) and accidentally swallowed the most enormous bubble of air I have ever swallowed. Now everyone knows this is painful, but this was something else altogether. While I was waiting for the bubble to move down and for the pain to die down, I started feeling strange and told Mr Speedy that I thought I was going to pass out. Which I did. He was standing beside me, holding my head up off my chest and repeating “Are you alright?”.
It took a while to focus and wake from what seemed like a jumble of long dreams, as though I had been sleeping for hours, but he told me I simply slumped but kept my eyes open for no more than a few seconds. Now my lower abdomen hurts.

What this all about? How can swallowing an enormous bubble of air do that?

Sounds very odd to me Speedy. I’m unaccustomed to this swallowing of bubbles of air of which you speak. Don’t think I’ve ever experienced it.

So everyone doesn’t know, I suppose :)

It’s possible that while all this was going on, you were momentarily starved of oxygen.

Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Sounds very odd to me Speedy. I’m unaccustomed to this swallowing of bubbles of air of which you speak. Don’t think I’ve ever experienced it.

So everyone doesn’t know, I suppose :)

It’s possible that while all this was going on, you were momentarily starved of oxygen.

Yes I think this is true, but I’d like to know how this is possible. Surely the blood vessels are not close enough to the esophagus to cause this problem if it bulges.

did you see this Buffy? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-01/dog-daycare-the-secret-life-of-pups/9662418

sarahs mum said:

did you see this Buffy? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-01/dog-daycare-the-secret-life-of-pups/9662418

Do I want to?

Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

So everyone doesn’t know, I suppose :)

It’s possible that while all this was going on, you were momentarily starved of oxygen.

Yes I think this is true, but I’d like to know how this is possible. Surely the blood vessels are not close enough to the esophagus to cause this problem if it bulges.

Mr Speedy says I was hiccoughing too, so it seems that my body may have been trying to clear the bubble out of there.

Speedy said:

Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s possible that while all this was going on, you were momentarily starved of oxygen.

Yes I think this is true, but I’d like to know how this is possible. Surely the blood vessels are not close enough to the esophagus to cause this problem if it bulges.

Mr Speedy says I was hiccoughing too, so it seems that my body may have been trying to clear the bubble out of there.

I think it could be a kind of reflux. The air bubble could have come from your stomach?

You might have had one of these:

What Is an Esophageal Spasm?

An esophageal spasm is the sudden, abnormal squeezing of the food pipe (esophagus). That’s the tube that carries food from your mouth to your stomach.

Causes
Doctors aren’t sure what causes esophageal spasms, but it is known that they are a type of motility disorder. That means there’s a problem with how the muscles in the food pipe squeeze together (contract) to move contents through the rest of the gastrointestinal (GI) system. Nerve signals from the brain tell the muscles in your esophagus to contract when you swallow something. Faulty nerve signaling may play a role in whether or not you develop this condition.

There are two main types of esophagus spasms:

Distal esophageal spasm (DES). These are uncoordinated spasms that often happen along with regurgitation. That means food and liquids come back up after you swallow them.

Nutcracker esophagus. A twisted, or corkscrew-shaped, esophagus is often involved in powerful spasms. Regurgitation is not common with this type.

Symptoms of Esophageal Spasms
The main ones are difficulty swallowing and chest pain. The spasms can be severe enough to wake you from sleep and may feel like a heart attack. If you have sudden chest pain or other signs of a heart attack, call 911 or go to the nearest hospital emergency room.

https://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/what-is-esophageal-spasm#1

buffy said:

Brindabellas said:

The meals are the same. They have improved heaps. And they were still warm – but the public hospital is only across the road. So much rip off with medical fees – I am fortunate to be able to pay for the gap – but we have paid full health insurance (no rebate) plus the medicare level, and still have to pay about $7,000 – and that doesnt’ include rehab costs of physio and hydro

How come no rebate?

combined income over the limit.

sarahs mum said:

did you see this Buffy? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-01/dog-daycare-the-secret-life-of-pups/9662418

I’ve looked at the pictures. I might read the words later. Maybe.

Some interesting stories on tonights news.

A dune field found on Pluto. Which is pretty amazing given the thinness of the atmosphere.

In other news, there should be a time lapse video of how to assemble a Patagotitan on the web somewhere. It’s the bhggest sauropod.

Brindabellas said:

buffy said:

Brindabellas said:

The meals are the same. They have improved heaps. And they were still warm – but the public hospital is only across the road. So much rip off with medical fees – I am fortunate to be able to pay for the gap – but we have paid full health insurance (no rebate) plus the medicare level, and still have to pay about $7,000 – and that doesnt’ include rehab costs of physio and hydro

How come no rebate?

combined income over the limit.

Ah. we’ve never been anywhere near the limit.

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

Speedy said:

Yes I think this is true, but I’d like to know how this is possible. Surely the blood vessels are not close enough to the esophagus to cause this problem if it bulges.

Mr Speedy says I was hiccoughing too, so it seems that my body may have been trying to clear the bubble out of there.

I think it could be a kind of reflux. The air bubble could have come from your stomach?

I definitely swallowed it and I know it moved down. I can actually feel it in my stomach now when I take a deep breath.

In fact, looking it up, we’ve never come off the base tier.

buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

did you see this Buffy? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-01/dog-daycare-the-secret-life-of-pups/9662418

I’ve looked at the pictures. I might read the words later. Maybe.

In some of the small print they mentioned not having toys due to resource guarding. Cobbett has that. Not that he gets vicious..he just knows whats his. When Loki comes over Cobbett gets busy stashing stuff.

Pluto’s dunes.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2018-06-01/pluto-methane-dunes-new-horizons-atmosphere-solar-system/9816778

Assembling patagotitan at the Field Museum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DbxBW4EyWmCk&ved=0ahUKEwjF_pOVmbLbAhXIjLwKHccrCxkQwqsBCC4wAg&usg=AOvVaw3xN4-venhmRsMXfMFO87i1

Bubblecar said:

You might have had one of these:

What Is an Esophageal Spasm?

An esophageal spasm is the sudden, abnormal squeezing of the food pipe (esophagus). That’s the tube that carries food from your mouth to your stomach.

Causes
Doctors aren’t sure what causes esophageal spasms, but it is known that they are a type of motility disorder. That means there’s a problem with how the muscles in the food pipe squeeze together (contract) to move contents through the rest of the gastrointestinal (GI) system. Nerve signals from the brain tell the muscles in your esophagus to contract when you swallow something. Faulty nerve signaling may play a role in whether or not you develop this condition.

There are two main types of esophagus spasms:

Distal esophageal spasm (DES). These are uncoordinated spasms that often happen along with regurgitation. That means food and liquids come back up after you swallow them.

Nutcracker esophagus. A twisted, or corkscrew-shaped, esophagus is often involved in powerful spasms. Regurgitation is not common with this type.

Symptoms of Esophageal Spasms
The main ones are difficulty swallowing and chest pain. The spasms can be severe enough to wake you from sleep and may feel like a heart attack. If you have sudden chest pain or other signs of a heart attack, call 911 or go to the nearest hospital emergency room.

https://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/what-is-esophageal-spasm#1

Thanks Mr Car.

That’s all scary long-term stuff. Definitely no regurgitation or “unexplained” spasms. It was a physiological reaction to the trauma of swallowing a huge bubble. The only other time I’ve had anything similar was when I almost passed out after grating my knuckle on the grater while grating carrots.

buffy said:

Sorry Speedy, no idea. I gulp air when I drink water or milk, but it’s not painful.

There’s your problem right there… you should be gulping wine.

>“The crocodile tears last night I believe were genuine…”

Um, crocodile tears means tears that are not genuine.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/01/one-nation-launches-internal-inquiry-into-claims-brian-burston-tried-to-defect

mollwollfumble said:

Pluto’s dunes.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2018-06-01/pluto-methane-dunes-new-horizons-atmosphere-solar-system/9816778

Assembling patagotitan at the Field Museum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DbxBW4EyWmCk&ved=0ahUKEwjF_pOVmbLbAhXIjLwKHccrCxkQwqsBCC4wAg&usg=AOvVaw3xN4-venhmRsMXfMFO87i1

That link doesn’t work. Try https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bxBW4EyWmCk

Witty Rejoinder said:

buffy said:

Sorry Speedy, no idea. I gulp air when I drink water or milk, but it’s not painful.

There’s your problem right there… you should be gulping wine.

Probably not…

Bubblecar said:

>“The crocodile tears last night I believe were genuine…”

Um, crocodile tears means tears that are not genuine.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/01/one-nation-launches-internal-inquiry-into-claims-brian-burston-tried-to-defect

Pauline doesn’t seem to be very easy to work with. So many of the party MPs seem top leave over differences of opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQujUmfFc4w

Bubblecar’s place.

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

Pluto’s dunes.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2018-06-01/pluto-methane-dunes-new-horizons-atmosphere-solar-system/9816778

Assembling patagotitan at the Field Museum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DbxBW4EyWmCk&ved=0ahUKEwjF_pOVmbLbAhXIjLwKHccrCxkQwqsBCC4wAg&usg=AOvVaw3xN4-venhmRsMXfMFO87i1

That link doesn’t work. Try https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bxBW4EyWmCk

That’s the wrong video, an old one at the same place.

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

Pluto’s dunes.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2018-06-01/pluto-methane-dunes-new-horizons-atmosphere-solar-system/9816778

Assembling patagotitan at the Field Museum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DbxBW4EyWmCk&ved=0ahUKEwjF_pOVmbLbAhXIjLwKHccrCxkQwqsBCC4wAg&usg=AOvVaw3xN4-venhmRsMXfMFO87i1

That link doesn’t work. Try https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bxBW4EyWmCk

That’s the wrong video, an old one at the same place.

A discovery of titanic proportions

The Mayo family farm near La Flecha, Argentina, became the site of epic buried treasure when a rancher stumbled upon a bone in the desert terrain. Scientists from the Museo Paleontológico Egidio Feruglio came in to investigate and soon realized the magnitude of this discovery. Paleontologists excavated over 130 fossils from at least six different individual dinosaurs—all the same type of enormous sauropod—including an eight-foot-long femur and most parts of a (very long) spine.

Scientists officially described the titanosaur as a new species and named it in 2017, honoring both the Patagonia region and the Mayo family with Patagotitan mayorum.

Our titanosaur cast is based off of these fossilized bones, giving a realistic sense of this behemoth’s scale as dinosaurs reached new heights during the Cretaceous Period.

hello fndc… I am having green tea tonight… cheers

Arts said:

hello fndc… I am having green tea tonight… cheers

‘erbal?

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

hello fndc… I am having green tea tonight… cheers

‘erbal?

Dilmah

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

hello fndc… I am having green tea tonight… cheers

‘erbal?

Arts said:

hello fndc… I am having green tea tonight… cheers

sorry to hear you are unwell, hope you get better soon.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

hello fndc… I am having green tea tonight… cheers

‘erbal?

What is that anyway? They look like a million spider eyes.

party_pants said:

Arts said:

hello fndc… I am having green tea tonight… cheers

sorry to hear you are unwell, hope you get better soon.

+1

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

hello fndc… I am having green tea tonight… cheers

‘erbal?

Dilmah

Iss gut.

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

Arts said:

hello fndc… I am having green tea tonight… cheers

sorry to hear you are unwell, hope you get better soon.

+1

thank you for your sympathy.. I’ll store it for when I really need it

party_pants said:

Arts said:

hello fndc… I am having green tea tonight… cheers

sorry to hear you are unwell, hope you get better soon.

Have you tried WB&D(+EtOH)?

Nearly time for Endeavour here.

buffy said:

Nearly time for Endeavour here.

after a couple of ABC wank ads.

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

>“The crocodile tears last night I believe were genuine…”

Um, crocodile tears means tears that are not genuine.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/01/one-nation-launches-internal-inquiry-into-claims-brian-burston-tried-to-defect

Pauline doesn’t seem to be very easy to work with. So many of the party MPs seem top leave over differences of opinion.

Pauline Hanson “If anyone has different opinions than me then don’t join my party”.

Pauline Hanson in tears “Everyone’s leaving my party”.

Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

>“The crocodile tears last night I believe were genuine…”

Um, crocodile tears means tears that are not genuine.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/01/one-nation-launches-internal-inquiry-into-claims-brian-burston-tried-to-defect

Pauline doesn’t seem to be very easy to work with. So many of the party MPs seem top leave over differences of opinion.

Pauline Hanson “If anyone has different opinions than me then don’t join my party”.

Pauline Hanson in tears “Everyone’s leaving my party”.

she’s one for australia.

Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

>“The crocodile tears last night I believe were genuine…”

Um, crocodile tears means tears that are not genuine.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/01/one-nation-launches-internal-inquiry-into-claims-brian-burston-tried-to-defect

Pauline doesn’t seem to be very easy to work with. So many of the party MPs seem top leave over differences of opinion.

Pauline Hanson “If anyone has different opinions than me then don’t join my party”.

Pauline Hanson in tears “Everyone’s leaving my party”.

You would cry to if it happened to you.

sarahs mum said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

Pauline doesn’t seem to be very easy to work with. So many of the party MPs seem top leave over differences of opinion.

Pauline Hanson “If anyone has different opinions than me then don’t join my party”.

Pauline Hanson in tears “Everyone’s leaving my party”.

You would cry to if it happened to you.

Aptness is outstanding.

Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

>“The crocodile tears last night I believe were genuine…”

Um, crocodile tears means tears that are not genuine.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/01/one-nation-launches-internal-inquiry-into-claims-brian-burston-tried-to-defect

Pauline doesn’t seem to be very easy to work with. So many of the party MPs seem top leave over differences of opinion.

Pauline Hanson “If anyone has different opinions than me then don’t join my party”.

Pauline Hanson in tears “Everyone’s leaving my party”.

Pretty much. Seems they are treated just as puppets to occupy a seat and vote as Pauline (or the party committee) tells them without having any input and discussion into the policy formation. Most people would crack the shits eventually.

sarahs mum said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

Pauline doesn’t seem to be very easy to work with. So many of the party MPs seem top leave over differences of opinion.

Pauline Hanson “If anyone has different opinions than me then don’t join my party”.

Pauline Hanson in tears “Everyone’s leaving my party”.

You would cry to if it happened to you.

:)

Rule 303 said:

You’re quiet tonight, Rule. Cat got your tongue?

sarahs mum said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

Pauline doesn’t seem to be very easy to work with. So many of the party MPs seem top leave over differences of opinion.

Pauline Hanson “If anyone has different opinions than me then don’t join my party”.

Pauline Hanson in tears “Everyone’s leaving my party”.

You would cry to if it happened to you.

“It’s my party, and they’ll cry if I want them to!”

btm said:

Rule 303 said:

You’re quiet tonight, Rule. Cat got your tongue?

btm said:

sarahs mum said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Pauline Hanson “If anyone has different opinions than me then don’t join my party”.

Pauline Hanson in tears “Everyone’s leaving my party”.

You would cry to if it happened to you.

“It’s my party, and they’ll cry if I want them to!”

It is an apt quote.

Rule 303 said:

btm said:

Rule 303 said:

You’re quiet tonight, Rule. Cat got your tongue?

he sure is