Date: 23/06/2018 13:49:10
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1243341
Subject: Today's Science

Listening to the ABC Science Show today, I discovered the work of William Whewell, who I had never heard of before.

He was very influential in his day. Seems strange we hear so little about him.

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Date: 23/06/2018 13:57:55
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1243344
Subject: re: Today's Science

On Whewell and tides

(Only 3 1/2 minutes)

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Date: 23/06/2018 14:10:36
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1243345
Subject: re: Today's Science

The Rev Dodgson said:


On Whewell and tides

(Only 3 1/2 minutes)

Short and to the point.

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Date: 23/06/2018 14:35:50
From: buffy
ID: 1243349
Subject: re: Today's Science

The Rev Dodgson said:


Listening to the ABC Science Show today, I discovered the work of William Whewell, who I had never heard of before.

He was very influential in his day. Seems strange we hear so little about him.

Oh, I was thinking of Henry Hoke….but you were actually being serious.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/the-lost-tools-of-henry-hoke-ep-1—-from-the-desert/9627166

:)

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Date: 23/06/2018 14:54:59
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1243351
Subject: re: Today's Science

buffy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Listening to the ABC Science Show today, I discovered the work of William Whewell, who I had never heard of before.

He was very influential in his day. Seems strange we hear so little about him.

Oh, I was thinking of Henry Hoke….but you were actually being serious.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/the-lost-tools-of-henry-hoke-ep-1—-from-the-desert/9627166

:)

> … Anglican priest, philosopher, theologian, and historian …

And you’re surprised that we hear so little about him?

Looks like I’ve used the Whewell equation in calculating the shape of raindrops on surfaces affected by the force of gravity. The curvature comes from surface tension + gravity. But I didn’t know the name, I thought the equation had a different name, grabbed it out of the Handbook of Chemistry and Physics.

> Following Immanuel Kant, he asserted against John Stuart Mill

In that case I hate him.

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Date: 23/06/2018 15:00:48
From: Ian
ID: 1243352
Subject: re: Today's Science

buffy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Listening to the ABC Science Show today, I discovered the work of William Whewell, who I had never heard of before.

He was very influential in his day. Seems strange we hear so little about him.

Oh, I was thinking of Henry Hoke….but you were actually being serious.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/the-lost-tools-of-henry-hoke-ep-1—-from-the-desert/9627166

:)

You think TRD would start a hoax scientist thread?

Hmmm

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Date: 23/06/2018 15:04:17
From: buffy
ID: 1243355
Subject: re: Today's Science

Ian said:


buffy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Listening to the ABC Science Show today, I discovered the work of William Whewell, who I had never heard of before.

He was very influential in his day. Seems strange we hear so little about him.

Oh, I was thinking of Henry Hoke….but you were actually being serious.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/the-lost-tools-of-henry-hoke-ep-1—-from-the-desert/9627166

:)

You think TRD would start a hoax scientist thread?

Hmmm

I don’t see why not. Henry Hoke is amusing. Even serious people need the occasional amusement.

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Date: 23/06/2018 15:04:29
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1243356
Subject: re: Today's Science

buffy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Listening to the ABC Science Show today, I discovered the work of William Whewell, who I had never heard of before.

He was very influential in his day. Seems strange we hear so little about him.

Oh, I was thinking of Henry Hoke….but you were actually being serious.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/the-lost-tools-of-henry-hoke-ep-1—-from-the-desert/9627166

:)

I hadn’t heard of Henry Hoke heither, which is at least equally inexcusable.

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Date: 23/06/2018 15:05:51
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1243357
Subject: re: Today's Science

buffy said:


Ian said:

buffy said:

Oh, I was thinking of Henry Hoke….but you were actually being serious.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/the-lost-tools-of-henry-hoke-ep-1—-from-the-desert/9627166

:)

You think TRD would start a hoax scientist thread?

Hmmm

I don’t see why not. Henry Hoke is amusing. Even serious people need the occasional amusement.

I can only assume that Ian was joking.

At least on some level.

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Date: 23/06/2018 15:11:54
From: Ian
ID: 1243363
Subject: re: Today's Science

I also listened to the Science Show and agree that Whewell is very interesting.

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Date: 23/06/2018 15:42:06
From: Ian
ID: 1243369
Subject: re: Today's Science

He wouldn’t have a bar of Darwin’s theory though, no, no.

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Date: 23/06/2018 15:46:35
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1243371
Subject: re: Today's Science

Ian said:


He wouldn’t have a bar of Darwin’s theory though, no, no.

I wonder if he would now?

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Date: 23/06/2018 16:30:39
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1243388
Subject: re: Today's Science

Tau.Neutrino said:


Ian said:

He wouldn’t have a bar of Darwin’s theory though, no, no.

I wonder if he would now?

I doubt it.

“Creation scientist” more likely.

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Date: 23/06/2018 16:33:12
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1243389
Subject: re: Today's Science

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Ian said:

He wouldn’t have a bar of Darwin’s theory though, no, no.

I wonder if he would now?

I doubt it.

“Creation scientist” more likely.

How can “creation scientists” observe things properly?

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Date: 23/06/2018 16:37:57
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1243393
Subject: re: Today's Science

Tau.Neutrino said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I wonder if he would now?

I doubt it.

“Creation scientist” more likely.

How can “creation scientists” observe things properly?

There is nothing to stop them observing properly.

It’s what they do with the observations that’s the problem.

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Date: 23/06/2018 16:38:58
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1243395
Subject: re: Today's Science

Tau.Neutrino said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I wonder if he would now?

I doubt it.

“Creation scientist” more likely.

How can “creation scientists” observe things properly?

When they are creation scientists, religious politicians, religious business people, religious citizens, how can any of them observe science properly.

Especially when billions of people are involved, that must have a profound effect and a profound flow on effect.

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Date: 23/06/2018 16:40:08
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1243396
Subject: re: Today's Science

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I doubt it.

“Creation scientist” more likely.

How can “creation scientists” observe things properly?

There is nothing to stop them observing properly.

It’s what they do with the observations that’s the problem.

Twist findings around to suit themselves?

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Date: 23/06/2018 16:42:31
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1243398
Subject: re: Today's Science

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I doubt it.

“Creation scientist” more likely.

How can “creation scientists” observe things properly?

When they are creation scientists, religious politicians, religious business people, religious citizens, how can any of them observe science properly.

Especially when billions of people are involved, that must have a profound effect and a profound flow on effect.

And we have lift off.

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Date: 23/06/2018 16:50:37
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1243403
Subject: re: Today's Science

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Ian said:

He wouldn’t have a bar of Darwin’s theory though, no, no.

I wonder if he would now?

I doubt it.

“Creation scientist” more likely.

I’ve changed my mind.

Given that he was a part of the established education system, I think in 20th/21st century he probably would have accepted Darwinian evolution. “God’s” bit of the process would be creating the initial rules, and a supply of chemicals that would result in life evolving.

Not sure how he’d handle quantum mechanics though.

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Date: 23/06/2018 17:03:48
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1243404
Subject: re: Today's Science

TRD?

You don’t mean TED?

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Date: 23/06/2018 17:08:31
From: Michael V
ID: 1243406
Subject: re: Today's Science

mollwollfumble said:


TRD?

You don’t mean TED?

???

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Date: 23/06/2018 17:19:01
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1243410
Subject: re: Today's Science

buffy said:


Ian said:

buffy said:

Oh, I was thinking of Henry Hoke….but you were actually being serious.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/the-lost-tools-of-henry-hoke-ep-1—-from-the-desert/9627166

:)

You think TRD would start a hoax scientist thread?

Hmmm

I don’t see why not. Henry Hoke is amusing. Even serious people need the occasional amusement.

I saw a hoax animal facts thread recently. I wonder if I can find it again.

Can’t find it but this is similar. I think it counts as hoax science.

https://www.boredpanda.com/funny-animal-facts-fake-los-angeles-zoo-obvious-plant/

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Date: 23/06/2018 17:47:07
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1243423
Subject: re: Today's Science

This wasn’t it either.

https://mobile.twitter.com/fakeanimalfacts?lang=en

This wasn’t it either, but I thought number 2 was true. And the first half of 17 was true. Number 64 is false, but not far off the truth. Number 100 is close to the truth.

https://thespinoff.co.nz/science/28-10-2017/101-fake-facts-that-youre-doomed-to-remember-as-true/

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